H. Lord: Words from the creator

In the May 28 Sun Journal, an Associated Press article quoted Professor Richard Leakey as saying that “skepticism over evolution will soon be history.”

In the story, Leakey is identified not only as a paleoanthropologist but also as an atheist. With those credentials, he must be reliable, right?

Wrong.

The Bible, the message from the creator of the universe, has these words, “The fool has said in his heart, ‘There is no God.’” (Psalm 53:1)

Don’t blame me. Don’t shoot the messenger. That’s the word from the creator of the universe.

Leakey demonstrates himself as foolish.

Darwin’s “Origin of the Species” appeared 153 years ago. There is a vast corridor of missing transitional forms that they are still looking for in the soils of Africa and elsewhere.

But in the intellectually dishonest textbooks of the public schools, evolution is taught as though it were established fact.

Shameful.

Harvey Lord, South Paris

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sweetfern's picture
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Politics and Religion

It's been said that Politics and Religion are the two subjects that cause more hatred, discontent and argument then any other. The following 40 posts are proof.

Pirate's picture
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Walker's dealing with the

Walker's dealing with the public sector unions will, hopefully, turn out to be today's equivalent of Reagan giving the air traffic controllers a well deserved boot in the ass.

Ed McCaffrey's picture
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I love how you guys argue about this...

Did anyone consider the idea that maybe there are two answers that are right??
Cain did leave the garden after killing his brother and took a wife in the Land of Nod. Where the hell did the people of Nod come from?? The bible doesn't mention them again.
So, God, or something like it, tweaked a little DNA, and made Homo Sapiens in his image. There was something or someone, already extant, that the new model was capable of mating with. Science has found DNA evidence, proof, that multitudes of people alive today share genetic markers with Neanderthals.
After Adam and Eve got tossed from the garden for rule-breaking, their children took mates. Where did those mates come from???
Sure, maybe God or something like him made Adam and Eve, but evolution did the rest long before God ever got here.

jalbrecht's picture
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Oh, Harvey Please.

I know you are trapped. You have nothing new to offer.
"Don’t blame me. Don’t shoot the messenger. That’s the word from the creator of the universe." That's your shift in authority from you to your god. Its your escape clause.
" There is a vast corridor of missing transitional forms that they are still looking for". You believe that this negates the theory. Sorry it doesn't. Millions of controlled scientific experiments over more than a century have supported evolutionary theory. Missing transitional forms that are millions of years old and have been subject to all the events that entails are not evidence against the theory.
"But in the intellectually dishonest textbooks of the public schools, evolution is taught as though it were established fact." Wonderful strawman. I'm unaware of any textbook that teachers that the scientific theory of evolution is anything but a theory. Of course, what you will not admit is that a scientific theory while not a fact approaches so closely to a fact that the difference for everyday use is meaningless.
Come up with a scientific experiment that disproves evolution; instead of speculation and someone might just listen.

Queenie's picture
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Shameful?

The only thing shameful is willful ignorance.

Jason's picture
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HAHAHAHAHAHA

First off- Evolution the process has been proven. It IS a fact.

Example - Drug resistant bacteria. We have seen it in the lab and seen how bacteria have become resilient to drugs. So we have seen the process in action

But hey, I guess we're all stupid for believing a process we can see instead of a bible, a book written by superstitious people who were guessing and have been proven wrong multiple times.

Pirate's picture
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Any theories on why Darwin

Any theories on why Darwin spent his last years embracing the Christian Faith?

jalbrecht's picture
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Yes, he didn't

Darwin was a Christian before he got on the boat. He remainded a Christian his entire life. Its a myth that he "embraced Christianity only in his later years". Fact is many evolutionists are believing and practicing christians. Evolution in no way contradicts Christianity. Only in the minds of some christians does it present any problem.

wmvincent's picture
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Darwin a lifelong Christian? Not hardly.

In volume 2 of Janet Browne's definitive biography of the man, we find this statement: "I never gave up Christianity until I was forty years of age. It is not supported by evidence" (Charles Darwin: The Power of Place, p. 484). He died at the age of 73.
Many believe he ended up an atheist; not so. "Darwin closed the religious part of his autobiography with a statement of honest ignorance. 'I cannot pretend to throw the least light on such abtruse problems. The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an Agnostic'" (Ibid., p. 434).
And in the wikipedia entry on Darwin we're informed: "The 'Lady Hope Story,' published in 1915, claimed that Darwin had reverted back to Christianity on his sickbed. The claims were repudiated by Darwin's children and have been dismissed as false by historians."
Yours is a gross error, Mr. Albrecht.

Pirate's picture
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Darwin's first step in

Darwin's first step in evolution and the Catholic version of how Adam was created are not contradictory? How so?

jalbrecht's picture
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Last I heard

The Catholic Church accepts scientific research specifically "Catholic theologians contend that natural reason being a God-given capacity, is not opposed to the Church's teachings, and hence never contradict each other." Now I know a lot of scientists who would dispute that is the real Church position.
Bottom line is evolution is a completely tested and verified scientific theory which for all intents and purposes outside of science is fact. Evolution should not be taught in a science class as fact; but everywhere else it is.

Pirate's picture
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I happen to be of the mindset

I happen to be of the mindset that both cannot be correct. Either God created Adam and Eve or we originated from an aquatic embryonic state. I just don't see how both can be considered to have taken place. One is true; one is not. One is scientifically proven, (supposedly) one relies on a leap of Faith. You place your bets and you spin the wheel.

jalbrecht's picture
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Good Comment

I am too. Considering that the "Gensis creation story"(actually their are two in Gensis) is replicated in dozens of earlier civilizations and one of the stories is taken almost word for word from Babylon traditions hundreds of years earlier, the uniqueness of the Gensis story seems bizarrely unsupportable. If its not unique and not supported by any evidence of any kind and its creation by humans to meet human needs (as far as we know we are the only concious beings on earth. Conciousness by itself demands an answer to the question how did we begin. Every civilization has supplied an answer. ) is well known. It has little credibility. Either is a leap of faith because neither can be experienced. But one while not proved is supported by very credibile and plausible processes while the other has no support at all. Its evidence and reason against unsupported tradition. I'll take reason any time.

Pirate's picture
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"Ahhh, but Faith can move

"Ahhh, but Faith can move mountains", said the sage and erudite parrot.

jalbrecht's picture
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sometimes on your own head

to your regret

Pirate's picture
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Aspirin cures headaches

Aspirin cures headaches because those who take it have faith in the belief that it will work. A great deal of healing takes place on faith alone. There is scientific proof of that.

mgr's picture
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1. Fear of mortality. 2.

1. Fear of mortality.

2. Finality of life.

Pirate's picture
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Those have been suggested,

Those have been suggested, but there isn't a whole lot out there to support them.

Jason's picture
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Hedging his bets?

Hedging his bets? I dunno.
But, guess what, you can be a Christian and embrace evolution.

Here's the Vatican's stance on it:
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_...

Summary - God works in mysterious ways. Who's to say he didn't use evolution.

Pirate's picture
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A member of my household is

A member of my household is emphatic that Darwin died a Christian, but proof of that is pretty scarce.
You say, "You can be a Christian and embrace evolution".
How? By accepting the concept that we started out as some aquatic embryo, are we then not renouncing our belief that we are all descendants of Adam and Eve?

Jason's picture
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Easy

Every play with dominoes? Well, God does it on a infinite scale. I believe in God, and I think that God built the entire UNIVERSE. Humanity is a simple and relatively easy task compared to the Universe. Humanity is easy bake oven level compared to the universe.

That's why I love science. Trying to explain and figure out God's works is the ultimate tribute we can pay. Because the more you pull back, the more of God's creation you can see, the more epic it becomes. The more you can appreciate the art of creation.

Jason's picture
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To more directly answer

On second reading on my reply, I may not have really answered your question.

I believe that God set in motion a series of events the resulted in the creation of humanity. The reason I believe this is that I think God wants to stay out of view. I believe that the point is that if God doesn't stay low key, the point of all this(our existence) will be lost. Much like how people usually don't steal in front of a cop or cheat while the teacher is looking, people would be less likely to sin if God was actively around us.

Pirate's picture
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"There's a God?", said the

"There's a God?", said the bewildered parrot.
I am in agreement with most of your statement; the first post in particular.

mgr's picture
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Perhaps Adam and Eve were

Perhaps Adam and Eve were aquatic embryos!

Pirate's picture
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Don't know about that one,

Don't know about that one, Mark. Catholic teachings on how A & E came about are pretty clear.

veritas's picture
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Not 'Clear' - but 'Adamant'

Adamant is the word: A-D-A-M-A-N-T

See, it even has 'Adam' in it......

Pirate's picture
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ADAM ANT---A rock band of the

ADAM ANT---A rock band of the 80's; I remember them well.

mgr's picture
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What about that victory in

What about that victory in Wisconsin for sane fiscal spending?

As Ronald yells,
I like big government,
Give me more, more, more.

veritas's picture
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And your problem with 'Sane Taxation?'

Go find Ronald's quotes, Turd-Blossom - rather than put words in my mouth.....

Pirate's picture
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I notice the Journal carried

I notice the Journal carried the news of Walker's victory on page A7. Had Barrett won, it would probably have been Front Page Headline.

mgr's picture
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Even on page A7, a victory is

Even on page A7, a victory is a victory nonetheless.

This victory gives me faith that people are starting to come around and realize that the current era of big government and big government spending must come to an end.
This is a victory for fiscal responsibility.

Pirate's picture
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Hopefully, this is only the

Hopefully, this is only the first of many more to come. If I'm oBAMa right now, I'm brushing up on my community organization skills.

mgr's picture
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P.S. The next battle is in

P.S. The next battle is in November for the Whitehouse.

Pirate's picture
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What makes Walker's victory

What makes Walker's victory so significant is that Wisconsin is a blue state.

veritas's picture
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Bought and paid for by Out-of State $$$$

As we wiull see here.

mgr's picture
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And you don’t think Union

And you don’t think Union money did not funnel into the state.

Wisconsin was the battle ground setting the direction of the Nation for the next national election.

People are getting fed up with big government - finally.

veritas's picture
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Big Government??

Walker actually epitomizes the oppressive boot-heel of Big Government.

His way or the High-Way.

mgr's picture
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P.S. Just another form of

P.S. Just another form of sour grapes. We all eat them from time to time.

mgr's picture
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Perhaps when unions use the

Perhaps when unions use the government to pick our pockets, a boot heel to the head is a measured response.

Moreover, your response is typical if you don’t agree. For example, you’re okay with the boot-heel of ObummerCare, are you not?

veritas's picture
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This was about Walker's 'Anti-Union' measures

There are a lot of jealous voters out there in this economy.

mgr's picture
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Jealous of what? 1. Paying

Jealous of what?
1. Paying ever increasing taxes.
2. Having a State promise pensions that it cannot afford.

We are taxed enough, and we must halt the propensity government to increase tax and spending.

Pirate's picture
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Yes, but it isn't the out of

Yes, but it isn't the out of staters who cast the votes; Wisconsinites did that. There is always out of state money for both sides, regardless of the issue. The voters of Wisconsin, in this instance, happen to agree with Walker's ideology.

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