T. Shields: Questioning liberal thinking

I fail to understand liberal mentality. Reports are that Marine guards at an embassy do or don’t have live ammunition based dangerously on that ambassador’s decision. This is alarming, but typical of the wimpy, apologetic thinking that has spread throughout the Obama administration.

There is no embassy or consulate immune from attack. The nation has lost respect.

In Maine, until 2010, the liberals who dominated the Maine Legislature for 40 years nearly did the state in. The state owed billions in unfunded retirement and health benefits; unchecked agencies were spending freely; and Maine government was unfairly regulating and discouraging businesses. (Businesses create the jobs and revenues that Maine needs.)

The Maine people awakened in 2010 and elected Gov. Paul LePage and like-minded conservatives, who began to correct those long-term problems. That is a large task requiring more time. Some corrections cannot take effect until 2013-14.

It was painful to undo some of the generous, no-longer-affordable benefits that liberals had granted. The basic government responsibility is to care for those who cannot care for themselves (the physical and mentally disabled, the children, the infirm elderly, etc.). The able-bodied have temporary assistance programs to start them on self-support.

This November, voters should evaluate not what the Democrat liberals say (talk is cheap), but what they did. Their actions and voting records speak louder than their words. A strong slate of conservative Republicans deserve election to continue to inject common sense into Maine government.

Thomas F. Shields, Auburn

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Steve  Dosh's picture

T. Shields: Questioning liberal thinking

Tom 12.09.22 21:00 hst •
To understand better liberal thinking , we suggest you read more from Mark Shields of the Washington Post :
. ." He served as an enlisted man in the United States Marine Corps before coming to Washington in 1965, where he became an aide to Wisconsin Senator William Proxmire. In 1968, Shields went to work for Robert F. Kennedy’s presidential campaign. He later held leadership positions in the presidential campaigns of Edmund Muskie and Morris Udall, and was political director for Sargent Shriver when he ran for vice president on the Democratic ticket in 1972. Over more than a decade, he helped manage state and local campaigns in some 38 states, including incumbent Boston, Massachusetts Mayor Kevin White's successful re-election campaign in 1975. "
Just a suggestion , mind you /s, Us

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

And your point is?.....

And your point is?.....

 's picture

So what?

In other words, since mustering out, Mark Shields has never held a real job. I have to admit his résumé is a lot more impressive than our president's.

CRYSTAL WARD's picture

please evaluate the conservatives

it is true in Nov your should evaluate the conservative republicans record of dumping the USA into the second worse depression in US History. Their trickle down economics, less regulation , lower taxes on the rich and two wars sure made a HUGH mess. And all that corporate welfare for the "job creators" that have made few jobs but have given them trillions to just hold and get richer on. Maines finances were severly hurt by the Conservatives clashing the whole economy and the Democrats can put the pieces back together better than the ones who caused the mess.
Oh my they were not at the embassy but at a consulate and I am sure you know the host country provides protection just like we do while they are in the USA. US Marines wthout out real ammunication are you kidding or insulting the Marines ??

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Excuse me but,

does Beirut ring a bell. "The sentries at the gate were operating under rules of engagement which made it very difficult to respond quickly to the truck. Sentries were ordered to keep their weapons at condition four (no magazine inserted and no rounds in the chamber). By the time the two sentries were able to engage, the truck was already inside the building's entry way, armed." So don't tell me Marines have never been ordered to man a sentry post with cleared weapons. And yes host countries do provide some security but the Marines are still in charge on US soil. Consulate or Embassy it makes no difference, they are both considered US soil. My cousin was in Beirut when the building was lifted off the ground by 12,000 lbs of TNT. He happened to be one of the lucky ones that wasn't in the building at the time but did the recovery. To this day he still talks about how they were ordered to have weapons clear while on duty at the sentry posts.

FRANK EARLEY's picture

I couldn't think of...

I can't think of a more self derogatory sentence than one that contains Lepage, and like minded. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be accused of thinking like Paul Lepage....

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Yeah right

Since they are mutually exclusive, you cannot use the words "republican" and "common sense" in the same sentence with a straight face.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

How about liberal and logic?

How about liberal and logic? That'll put a few wrinkles in your brow as well.

 's picture

Look at the editor's title for this letter.

Questioning liberal thinking The last two words form the ultimate oxymoron.

Betty Davies's picture

Urban legend about Marines "disarmed"

from a memorandum from the Marine Corps congressional liaison, Major Alex Cross:

"The Ambassador did not impose restrictions on weapons or weapons status on the Marine Corps Embassy Security Group (MCESG) detachment. The MCESG Marines in Cairo were allowed to have live ammunition in their weapons. The Ambassador and Regional Security Officer have been completely and appropriately engaged with the security situation. Reports of Marines not being able to have their weapons loaded per direction from the Ambassador are not accurate."

MARK GRAVEL's picture

How many assailants were

How many assailants were killed or wounded during the attack? If there are none, why?

Betty Davies's picture

Talk to the Marines

If you intend to accuse the Marines of incompetence, you should speak directly to them.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

Okay Betty slow down a bit.

Okay Betty slow down a bit. Let’s ask the questions and get the answers – nothing more nothing less.

Why do you get so defensive for simply asking the questions?

Betty Davies's picture


You've mistaken ROFL for defensiveness. Perhaps not for the first time. Gracious, you take yourself seriously. Nice technique, though.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

Hmm, on the one hand you rail

Hmm, on the one hand you rail people for no knowing the facts; on the other hand, you citizen people seeking the facts.
You cannot have it both ways Betty.

Perhaps the fact may run counter to your illusion of government.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

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PAUL ST JEAN's picture

A picture is worth a thousand

A picture is worth a thousand words.

 's picture

Especially MediaMatters.

Their sole mission is to destroy FNC. How's that working? FNC routinely out-polls all the liberal networks put together, while MM remains a petulant web-site quoted by desperate liberal sycophants.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

By the way, that is

By the way, that is cut-n-paste from your article Ronald.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

They were allowed to have

They were allowed to have live ammunition in their weapons, but I see nothing in your statement that indicates their weapons actually held live ammunition.

RONALD RIML's picture

"Tell it to the Marines"

Betty Davies's picture

One of the current lies...

...going around is that they were forbidden to have live ammunition. That has been thoroughly disproven. It's not necessary to retroactively inspect their weapons to ensure that the Marines complied with the order to have use live ammo.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

I’m a bit astounded that you

I’m a bit astounded that you don’t want to know the facts - why?

MARK GRAVEL's picture

I want to know why there

I want to know why there appears to be no evidence the Marines defended themselves.

RONALD RIML's picture

You merely want to know how

You can use Marines to politically embarrass Pres. Obama.

Not too transparent, are you, Mark.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

There you go again making

There you go again making wild accusations without any facts - not like the readers seen this before.

RONALD RIML's picture

So re-enlist and go back to the front.

And bring Romney's five sons with you. Then find out what really happened.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

Sometimes you make very

Sometimes you make very little sense.

1. I don’t have to re-enlist to want information as to why there is little evidence of resistance. In the service, I volunteer to investigate aircraft mishaps. Now, we could have been like Betty and say go ask the deceased crewmembers (childish), or we could investigate the facts to improve safety and overall readiness.

2. I told you before, and I’ll repeat it here, It is low of you to sling mud at Romney’s sons. In fact, I would like to give you a dose of your own medicine and criticize your child, but that may get be booted from the blog. You may think it empowers you to criticize Romney’s sons, but only belittles you.

RONALD RIML's picture

I'll sling mud at any Phony Warmonger

Who's not willing to make a personal investment with his/her family at going to war.

And that's exactly what Romney is. He showed us what he thinks of the 'Common Person' when he was in Baton Rouge. F*ck Him.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

Do you mean when Romney

Do you mean when Romney pointed out that Obama gave political payoffs to his contributors? That sounds like republican behavior according to Ronald.

I wonder what vulgar language you are going to bloviate when Romney wins in November. I wish I could be a fly on the wall when you read the election results.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

President Romney....has a

President Romney....has a nice ring to it, eh?

MARK GRAVEL's picture

First things first Mr.

First things first Mr. Shields, vote Obama out of office this November. Let’s start at the top and clean house.


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