R. Caron: A step toward equality for all

"As Maine goes, so goes the nation" — Mainers have spoken.

As a 70-year-old lesbian, I thank Maine voters for granting the same right that the straight community has had for years: getting a marriage license, then the ceremony.

For years, religious groups have professed that, once married, couples could engage in sex without the stain of sin. Now, the gay community will no longer be plagued by that sinful stain. We can now redefine marriage to what it once was years ago. The sham of divorces that has been created can now be a guide for gay couples to avoid.

Mainers took the first step toward equality for all Americans and, as Maine goes, hopefully the federal government will follow suit by approving all 50 states' recognition of same-sex marriage, granting the equality for all Americans.

Rolande Caron, South Paris

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JOANNE MOORE's picture

Bravo

Well said, and thanks!

MARK GRAVEL's picture

You are full of yourself.

You are full of yourself. Gay, straight or whatever you’ll still have just as many divorces.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

..."and, as Maine goes,

..."and, as Maine goes, hopefully the federal government will follow suit by approving all 50 states' recognition of same-sex marriage"....
There you have it folks, the next incremental step in the ladder of demands from the gay/lesbian community. Equality of special interests at the expense of individual states' rights.
It sure didn't take long for that little tidbit to reveal itself. Get ready for the next referendum.

JOANNE MOORE's picture

"special interests" ?????????????

When has getting married been called a "special" interest? I see nothing "special" in two people who love each other wanting to be married.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Why should you care what it's

Why should you care what it's called? You won. It pased; it is now law. Quit your nitpicking and enjoy your victory. What if I call the union between two men "cake". Is that going to anger you also? Get over it and move on.....You won!!!

Jonathan Albrecht's picture

What incremental step

The goal has always been full and complete civil rights for all americans. Nothing incremental about it except it takes time to accomplish. We have to over come opposition by neanderthals or wait for them to go extinct. You'll be saying next that each individual marriage is an incremental step in the ladder of demands. Then each step in the wedding is an incremental step.
What demands. The demand is singlualr and simple. End second class citizenship.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Noon and midnight are of

Noon and midnight are of equivalent value, but they are quite unlike in nature.

Jonathan Albrecht's picture

And I thank Maine voters

As a straight 65 year-old white man, who first helped in the cause of equal rights in 1963 while in high school, I wish to thank the people of Maine for doing what is rarely done - by popular vote extending to a minority full civil rights. Too often rights are extended by courts consistent with the law but contrary to the public will. The struggle for human rights is never over; but I now am well satisfied that what began those many years ago has now been fulfilled in Maine. Now on to repeal of DOMA and the end of Federal discrimination against gays.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

What about me, I’m

What about me, I’m discriminated against because I want a plurality of wives.

Jonathan Albrecht's picture

stop with the cutsey false eqivalencies

Plural marriage is not the next big civil rights struggle. But should restraints be place upon plural marriage like the Mormons used to do I see no problem with plural marriage. Plural marriage is afterall the "traditional" and biblical form of marriage. It has wide and contemporary support throughout the world. It is less likely (likely not absolutely) to hide abuse.But it does raise the possibilities of some real social harm (male chauvinism and the oppression of women) that need to be protected against.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

Chauvinism and oppression are

Chauvinism and oppression are mutually exclusive with polygamy. Another faulty cause and effect assertion.

Jonathan Albrecht's picture

A harem

demonstrates or could male chauvinism, the oppression of women, and plural marriage. They are not mutually exclusive.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

That statement shows, like

That statement shows, like most liberals, you think America values are the center of the universe – they are not.
Woman in other cultures are fine with polygamy or other such things like wearing a beekeeper’s outfit.

You’re a bad liberal for transferring your values on others. Surprisingly, the same behavior you denounce Republicans for doing – ironic.

JOANNE MOORE's picture

How many women in other cultures.....

..........have you spoken to lately? Do you really believe those women are "fine"? The truth, in many cases is that these women are NOT fine with it, but keep quiet about it, fearing death by stoning.

Your male chauvenist pig credentials are showing.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

I think you missed the bigger

I think you missed the bigger picture that we have no right to impose our values on a sovereign nation.

Moreover, liberals on the one hand accuse the Republicans of imposing their values, such as on abortion and contraception, on others, while on the other hand impose your values on others.

Lastly, you claim that many of these women are not find with it, but you have no firsthand experience with these people. Your statement is based on what you think, not what you know or what is.

I have traveled to many countries, and I talk to locals. In regards to this topic yes some women want more freedom. However, compared to having values dictated from the west, they vehemently oppose that concept. The people I have communicated with overwhelmingly oppose outside influences.

In closing, I think you are proving my point that liberals tend to think they know what is best for others, no different than what the right does. Perhaps you should get out and talk with these people instead of regurgitating liberal values; you’ll be surprised what you learn – the world does not center around American or liberal values.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

I thing you missed the bigger

I thing you missed the bigger picture that we have no right to impose our values on a sovereign nation.
Moreover, liberals on the one hand accuse the Republicans of imposing their values, such as on abortion and contraception, on others, while on the other hand impose your values on others.

Lastly, you claim that many of these women are not find with it, but you have no firsthand experience with these people. Your statement is based on what you think, not what you know or what is.

I have traveled to many countries, and I talk to locals. In regards to this topic yes some women want more freedom. However, compared to having values dictated from the west, they vehemently oppose that concept. The people I have communicated with overwhelmingly oppose outside influences.

In closing, I think you are proving my point that liberals tend to think they know what is best for others, no different than what the right does. Perhaps you should get out and talk with these people instead of regurgitating liberal values; you’ll be surprised what you learn – the world does not center around American or liberal values.

Jonathan Albrecht's picture

Mark, read my posts

likely, possibly, possibilities. Remember those words. Some women may be fine with plural marriage, some may be fine with it because that's all they have ever known, and some may hate it. I don't know and I didn't say that I did. Restraints hve to be in place here not in other cultures because here plural marriage raises the possibility of real social harm. It ould be nice if you criticized me for what I wrote instead of the fact that I wrote at all. Especially when I agree with you.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

Chauvinism and oppression are

Chauvinism and oppression are mutually exclusive with polygamy. Another faulty cause and effect assertion.

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