Putting God aside

I guess America has spoken. The majority of voters want to put God aside and keep pleasing man instead. They want to be able to do anything their heart desires without ever considering the end result.

They do not want to obey God because that restricts them. A majority of voters have indicated that homosexuality is OK, and it makes me wonder what they will ask for next.

I always thought that parents were trying to teach their children right from wrong. Those parents should be looking out for them and helping them to overcome those tendencies, simply because God said it was wrong.

Apparently, they do not want to follow the moral laws that have been around for several thousand years. Jesus came and taught the people that God wanted them to obey from the heart, not the head. The Bible was given to us so that we could learn what God has done for us through the Hebrews.

We have provided a lot of information but stopped teaching children how to think. Textbooks have been rewritten instead of letting children read the actual letters of the nation's founders and early politicians.

The nation's problems really took off when the politicians came to Washington, D.C., and did not go back home to their previous employment. That is one of the things the founders warned us about.

People should read the U.S. Constitution, along with the Declaration of Independence.

William DeBois, Poland

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They did...

...teach their children right from wrong. That's why they voted for what is right. And that's from God's mouth to your ears.

AL PELLETIER's picture

What the Bible really meant.

Gay marriage & pot being legalized on the same day?

LEVITICUS 20:13 If a man lays with another man he should be stoned.

We've been interpreting it all wrong!

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Which route number do we take

Which route number do we take to get to Perdition?

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Stunning, Al....

Stunning, Al....

The real truth may be ...

The real truth may be that god has done absolutely nothing for us, especially through Hebrews.

Instead, it seems, given their glee at our being attacked by so-called terrorists on 9/11, there are more indications of what the Hebrews have done "to us", especially in their attempt to draw us into, yet again, another Iraq / Afghanistan-like war entaglement with Syria and Iran, and, even, Russia and China.

Think .... Wall Street .... Think Jack Abramoff .... Think Madoff ... Think banksters of the Bank of London / Rothchild ilk....

Think and do not be distracted, any longer, by their "God", their "Bible", their Hebrew funded porn industry .... just stop being distracted, and f o c u s on fractional reserve banking scams ....fractional reserve banking scams ......and start making arrests and hold public trials of the perpetrators and their local bank co-conspirators hiding behind "GOD".

It is and always has been a lie, a front for the moneychangers and we, in the United States, have begun the revolution, the modern revolution of exposing this national and international fractional reserve banking, Hebrew Bible moneychanger, crime.

Yee Hah

PAUL ST JEAN's picture



Get a life...Of course, America has spoken ...and loudly!

Jesus dumped the moneychanger tables in Jerusalem's temple.

Obama dumped the moneychanger's tables on Wall Street.

Same principle.

You for the moneychangers?

Or, are you for the People?

You've obviously been duped into thinking modern day Isreali's are not the moneychangers in these pictures.

You've obvously also forgotten that it was the Isreali's who were caught jumping up and down, dancing and clapping each other's backs beside a white van that was video taping the aircraft crashing into the twin towers of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.

You've also been duped into thinking the present state of Isreal is more than a terrorist organization and front for bankster interests in London, Europe and Wall Street, especially the private banking cartel called the Federal Reserve, which was initially set up by the English to advance colonialistic theft of oil and other resources from Asia and Eastern Europe.

Get a life. Do your own thinking. Stop drinking the Reverand Jim Jones kool aid.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture



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moral laws that have been around

they do not want to follow the moral laws that have been around for several thousand years.

Leviticus 11:10
And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
(Bye bye Maine shrimping and lobster fishing)

Exodus 21:7
And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
Exodus 21:8
If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.
(If you believe in this sort of thing, it's a little hypocritical to complain about the ill treatment of women in some parts of the Middle East)

Exodus 21:24
Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
Exodus 21:25
Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
(The good old days)

Diana Currier's picture


I am not even sure this passed, as they were still counting ballots when everyone was celebrating! Time will tell I guess. I said congrats you got what you wanted, but lets just see if it REALLY passed, was pretty close when I saw it, and last I knew they WERE still counting..... RECOUNT. Remember before you go bashing, just MY opinion, don't really want to hear the drama .

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Looking for the TRUTH?

The Old Testament.
The New Testament.
For we know not what we do.

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Why we lost

I have no desire to single out William DeBois for criticism, as his letter is typical of many I saw in the media these past several months. But this is the letter the SJ put on line.

Too many people have assumed that the only problem with homosexuality is that God doesn't like it. Since nobody can prove what God thinks, and since the U.S. Constitution forbids establishment of any religion, God's opinion alone is unlikely to carry an election in this country.

Why was there not a concerted effort to educate the public on facts showing that homosexuality is harmful to health? Why was there no emphasis on scientific evidence showing that nobody is born homosexual (plenty of it exists) and that people often do change their sexual orientations (and often even without therapy)? Why was so little said about the disadvantages to children when they cannot be raised by their natural mother and father? And why did we not see more logical refutation of the lies to the effect that "gay people" are denied their rights if we won't change the English language to call their relationships "marriages"? Why was it impossible to get the media to recognize that these relationships are not illegal (so there was nothing to "legalize").

Possibly there was more effort in these directions than I know about, and possibly it was suppressed by the media. I don't know. I do know that the media have been very prone to publish letters like William DeBois', and they don't publish mine. Their bias may have caused them to prefer that the public think the only argument against the "gay" agenda is the religious argument.

A thoroughly researched campaign of public education on the scientific and logical issues would have led to a different outcome. I am still hoping it will be done.

Zack Lenhert's picture

I don't think you even read

I don't think you even read William's letter... He agrees with you.

Zack Lenhert's picture

"Why was there no emphasis on

"Why was there no emphasis on scientific evidence showing that nobody is born homosexual (plenty of it exists) and that people often do change their sexual orientations (and often even without therapy)? "

Any sources for this scientific evidence?

When did you choose to be heterosexual?

"Why was it impossible to get the media to recognize that these relationships are not illegal (so there was nothing to "legalize")."

This was about providing the same legal rights... Civil unions DID NOT provide the same legal protections of the state that marriage does (inheritance, custody, etc)

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Sources on scientific evidence

A couple of good sources on the scientific evidence are:

Whitehead, Neil & Briar, My Genes Made Me Do It: Homosexuality and the scientific evidence. www.mygenes.co.nz. The text can also be purchased from the author as a printed book:
whiteh@paradise.net.nz. (2010)
Satinover, Jeffrey, M.D., Homosexuality and the Politics of
Truth (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 1996).

Zack Lenhert's picture

You are correct that there is

You are correct that there is not a specific "gay gene"

Modern science cannot state conclusively what causes sexual orientation, but a great many studies suggest that it is the result of biological and environmental forces, not a personal "choice." One of the more recent is a 2008 Swedish study of twins (the world's largest twin study) that appeared in The Archives of Sexual Behavior and concluded that "[h]omosexual behaviour is largely shaped by genetics and random environmental factors." Dr. Qazi Rahman, study co-author and a leading scientist on human sexual orientation, said: "This study puts cold water on any concerns that we are looking for a single 'gay gene' or a single environmental variable which could be used to 'select out' homosexuality — the factors which influence sexual orientation are complex. And we are not simply talking about homosexuality here — heterosexual behaviour is also influenced by a mixture of genetic and environmental factors."

The American Psychological Association (APA) acknowledges that despite much research into the possible genetic, hormonal, social and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no evidence has emerged that would allow scientists to pinpoint the precise causes of sexual orientation. Still, the APA concludes that "most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation."

In October 2010, Kansas State University family studies professor Walter Schumm released a study showing that gay parents produced far more gay children than heterosexual parents. He told a reporter that he was "trying to prove [homosexuality is] not 100% genetic." But critics suggested that his data did not prove that, and, in any event, virtually no scientists have suggested that homosexuality is caused only by genes.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Two objects, same in size and

Two objects, same in size and shape, cannot occupy the same space at the same time.

AL PELLETIER's picture


Did you see my latest post on this subject. Pretty clever, don't you think?

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

I did. Pretty darn clever.

I did. Pretty darn clever.

Diana Currier's picture


I am thinking because more would have voted NO had they known...

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Better strap yourself into a

Better strap yourself into a good chair, Mr. DeBois. You will soon be hearing from the ungodly.


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