C. Saucier: Governor doesn't have the right

I worked for 18 years at Bath Iron Works as an outside machinist and I am angry with Gov. Paul LePage for refusing to allow the display of the labor murals that show the heritage of Maine workers, past and present.

LePage is not too smart about what he is doing, and he doesn't have a clue that our ancestors worked for the shipyard during World War II. Maybe his parents did, too.

LePage has to be stopped. There were more than 10,000 workers at the shipyard during World War II, and 6,000 workers, now, during peace time.

The governor does not have the right to do what he is doing.

Clayton Saucier, Lisbon

Editor's note: Last month, the 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Boston ruled that Gov. Paul LePage has the constitutional right, under "government speech," to move the mural.

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Amedeo Lauria's picture


Yes as a matter of fact, I was assigned to the United States Commander Berlin's Office and the Berlin Brigade, back when the wall was still up.

Glad it's down, but it was a very good place to visit to see the end-state of socialism/communism, a complete socio-economic and political mess; a country of cardboard Trabi cars and shortages of everything. Cold water flats with charcoal heaters, the charcoal bricks dumped in the streets. It was a sobering example of the MANY failures of socialism and communism.

While I was assigned to Germany, the Berlin Wall came down and the Soviet Union dissolved; my job being done...I came back to the best nation on the face of God's earth the United States of America.


Jason Theriault's picture

Stop kidding yourselves.

Republicans aren't targeting unions because of the overhead they bring as much because they are almost purely democratic organizations. Republicans are focused on wealth preservation, where democrats focus on wealth redistribution. However, Unions have been thoroughly weakened to the point that any measure directly aimed at them really doesn't affect 95% of Americans, so it's hard to get fired up about it.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

It may surprise to know that

It may surprise to know that one of the two agrees comes from the Pirate. Your second sentence is spot on. In reality that is the core difference between the two parties, don't you think?


The alleged "art" shows the heritage ...

... of unions in Maine. The heritage of workers in Maine is much more than that, as unions have all but disappeared from the private sector by self-inflicted wounds.

It's a different story with public sector unions, the predominant goons in the recent tantrum in Michigan. The members of those unions have a much better deal there, and in Maine, than any other workers, but they're busy trying to commit suicide by strike. Democrats embraced this vicious thuggery by accepting a load of money from unions, who tout this sort of "contribution" as protected free speech, while denying it to evil corporations.

Freedom of choice is not restricted to abortion, and should not be restricted from the workplace.

Amedeo Lauria's picture

The tail wagging the dog...

...the tactic of busing in folks from out of state to "fill the room" is understood by most people watching the news.

Never thought, and still don't, that chanting, destruction of property, occupation of government property, blocking access, and screaming slogans at citizens trying to get to work was a good replacement for either the ballot box or an individuals personal decision not to join the union.

Public sector unions are a BIG mistake and drive up the cost of services to hard working taxpaying Americans; pure and simple.

...and just take a look at Detroit if you want to see the result of out of control unions. It appears from news reports that sections of the city are ghost areas with fewer and fewer property taxpayers being crushed by the cost of the union public sector jobs, this in addition to them playing a major role the destruction of the auto industry there.

The mural looked like something you would have seen in a Soviet government building in the old East Berlin, similar to the "Che" like poster of President Obama that was such a hit with the left.

It was a good call by our Governor to take it down; a decision upheld by the judicial system.

RONALD RIML's picture

You spent how much time in old East Berlin there, Amedeo???

And how much time devoted to examining old WPA (Works Projects Administration) art work - many of which also bear a similarity to the mural.

But then - you've got several Dogs in this Fight - the Dogs of War certainly being among the Pack


You put your thumb right on it.

Every piece of union hall "art" I have ever seen looks remarkably like those Stalin-era posters touting the glorious workers' paradise. I doubt this is a coincidence.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Public sector unions

Public sector unions represent a great example of conflict of interest. They place the employees (the union members) in direct daily conflict with their employers (the taxpayers). How easy that is to forget.

Jason Theriault's picture

How is that any different?

Any union is going to pit the employees vs the employers.

How is that any different between public and private sector?

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Assuming your're a taxpayer

Assuming your're a taxpayer in one manner or another, If you can't readily see the difference, I'm afraid any explanation I may offer won't do it for you.

Jason Theriault's picture

Try me

As a tax payer, I am employing them. Where is the difference between a private employer? It would be no different than if they owned stock in the company they work for.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

As a taxpayer, you may be

As a taxpayer, you may be employing them, but how much say do you have in how much they get paid, their bennie packages,? Can you fire them? All these things are negotiated between their union representatives and members of the school board. You, as a tax payer don't have jack s*** to say about how they conduct themselves and the wage packages they are awarded. Do you, as a tax payer, have a whole lot to say about how much an Auburn cop or an Auburn fireman gets paid?

Jason Theriault's picture

Does Tim Cook control how much his programmers are paid?

Does Tim Cook(CEO-Apple) control how much his programmers are paid? Probably not. He has people to do that. We have people to do that. We elect the school board, the school board negotiates.

Same for other city services(only the city council handles it)

We choose, through elections, the people who run the show. Just like Tim Cook hires someone to run each Apple department.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

I tried to tell you at the

I tried to tell you at the beginning, but you wouldn't listen. Have it your way.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

In the public sector, there

In the public sector, there are two layers of bureaucracy (union and school board) between the employee and the employer (the taxpayer). In the private sector, the only thing that stands between the employer and the employee is the shop steward.

Amedeo Lauria's picture

Dear Editor...

thank you for the clarification at the end of the letter to those who have made our state government spend our tax dollars on this ridiculous issue!

Pretty soon we will probably have to defend washing graffitti off public buildings without the permission of the graffitti artists.

We could have filled a many a pothole in Maine for what was probably spent on government lawyers and such in an attempt to make an issue out of a non-issue.

Glad to see that the state of Michigan woke up and smelled the coffee! I heard someone on the news say, unions made Motown what it is today; I heartily agree!

I wonder when the taxpayers of Maine are going to say enough is enough as well.

FRANK EARLEY's picture

MI may have smelled the coffee,but....

They may have smelled the coffee, but they dropped the cup. Through many Republican back room shenanigans, the Republican Governor switched positions and Exposed himself as a lire, and helped push through the "Right To Work" law in record time, without any public input. With the Union Busting law in place, tens of thousands of demonstrators have descended on the State Capital, last night the Capital was surrounded by armed police. Ya think the people may have wanted something a little different? When your a Republican, you listen to the Koch brothers, not the wishes of the people. Money talks, people suffer. They had to get this done in a "Lame Duck Session", while they still could. I'm wondering if our illustrious, Republican Governor might have a little something up his sleeve we don't know about yet. Only the Shadow knows for sure......

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Sounds pretty much like the

Sounds pretty much like the way obummercare was passed.

Bob Woodbury's picture

"I wonder when the taxpayers of Maine...

...are going to say enough is enough as well."

They did. Last month.


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