J. Bristol: Schools need armed guards

In 2009, six members of ACT for America met with Gov. John Baldacci's Deputy Chief of Staff David Farmer. We discussed the potential for a school massacre. While ACT concentrates on Islamic terrorism, and we centered our concerns on the 2004 tragedy in Beslan, Russia (death toll, 344), the events on Dec. 14 in Newtown, Conn., bring back the issue in clear horror.

Farmer and other state officials did effectively nothing. We never heard back. We have policies and procedures. We have buzzers and lockdowns. We do not have the one thing that will stop a gun — guns.

The nation is predictably screaming for gun control, but violent crime is highest where strict gun control has been instituted, as in Chicago and Washington, D.C.

The 2nd Amendment is there for a reason. To paraphrase Thomas Jefferson — a populace with guns are citizens; a populace disarmed are slaves. Just research Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia, or Mao's regime in China, where millions were executed after guns were confiscated.

We need armed guards and, as a former teacher myself, the teachers should be trained and armed.

Adam Lanza shot his way into a locked school and killed the children and teachers within 10 minutes. No swat team, no secretary pushing a buzzer, no locks or brave janitors could have stopped that. But where will the money come from?

Taking just a portion of the salaries being paid for useless "educational gurus" at the highest levels would save precious lives.

Jared Bristol, Hebron

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RONALD RIML's picture

The NRA didn't offer a solution - but a diversion.

They took the 'Onus' off of themselves, and sprinkled fairy dust on an outlandish program.

This retired cop and Vietnam Vet has had it with 'Gun Nuts' - If the program is that necessary to protect us all from crazed gun-owners - then register and tax every gun out there. Otherwise legislate sane and reasonable laws to protect all of us living, breathing people - and not the gun.

AL PELLETIER's picture

Keep em coming!

Sunday I will be putting all these constructive ideas, authored by you, on paper and will be sending them to Mike Michaud to be given to Joe Biben. Your not pissing in the wind folks.

JOANNE MOORE's picture

Teachers should be trained and armed?

You seem to think teachers have nothing to do but babysit.


They are dedicated to instilling knowledge, creativity, curiosity, compassion, and careing. All the things that form young minds, so vulnerable and overwhelmed in todays world of greed and materialism.

Teachers open up a world of possibilities and enrich children with a sense of wonder. For many children, the classroom is the only place they find a helping hand and guidance in learning self respect. It may be the only sanctuary a child finds during his/her day.

For those of us who can remember, our teachers will remain an integral part of who we are as adults.

Art, music, literature, science, math and so much more may be all that separate civilized people from those that speak of violence as the only answer to the problems of today. Escalating violence is never the answer.

AL PELLETIER's picture

Real good dialogue guys!

And all positive input. The very last thing I want are more guns in schools period! Weather strapped on teachers hip, a security guards holster or in the hands of a mad man.
The NRA made a statement today and, I swear, they read my post before they wrote the script. I'm really pissed off that there was no mention made of gun control. Their contention is that video games are what triggers an unbalanced individual to carry out these massacres. They failed to mention that an AR-15 was used to carry it out.
As a foot note: if armed guards are conscripted for every school in the country start buying stock in Smith and Wesson. The NRA would love it!
After listening to LaPiere (NRA) today I'm now hedging on the armed guard #7 idea that I threw out there.
Keep the ideas and positive comments coming.

Bob Woodbury's picture

Any person...

...you or me, is subject to a breakdown that would be described as mental illness. It's happened to a lot of our vets. Who are we going to trust with guns? And define "educational Gurus." The money should come from the NRA and affiliated groups who also will agree to take responsibility for anything that goes wrong. The answer to guns is NOT more guns. The 2nd Amendment was written in 1791 when the weapon of choice was the flintlock. How about banning ALL guns since the flintlock?

Training teachers NOT!

This is not the way to go. Teachers are there to teach and have enough on their plate. Can't require them all as many won't want the responsibility and I sure wouldn't expect them to. Do you place the armed teacher on the first floor and all others on other floors? Do you rotate the ones armed for the first floor. What about field trips, gym classes etc.? Finally, for one that believes everyone one should be armed, that'ss forcing your wishes on someone else that just might not believe as you do. That's likely why nothing happened. One guard should be sufficient, NOT a teacher.

ERNEST LABBE's picture

Right on Jared

Right on Jared

The 2nd Amendment is there for a reason. To paraphrase Thomas Jefferson — a populace with guns are citizens; a populace disarmed are slaves. Just research Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia, or Mao's regime in China, where millions were executed after guns were confiscated.

All one has to do is read a history book. How about all the modern european dictators that did the same thing.

The saying when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns does not apply to those that have past convictions, It applies to those with great expectations of power as well.


The second amendment

This was written into the Constitution 15 years after the Revolutionary War. I don't think they really had Hitler, Stalin or Mao in mind. I think what they did have in mind was that the the new government had found it difficult to raise an army to fight the British with no money. They had to use farmers who had no weapon or fighting experience. I think they felt that for the safety and defense of the nation they needed a citizen militia something like what Israel does. That why they indicated the need for a "Well Regulated Militia" and armed citizens. It was also a time when many Americans lived in unsettled areas where there was no law enforcement and had to often rely on citizens to enforce the law and to protect each other. I don't think they intended for citizens to be armed so that they could overthrow their own government and I know they did not intend for people to gun down first graders with assault rifles nor did they foresee 8 million people living on an island. People spin documents to justify their anti-social behavior and then use them to prove their point.

Bob Woodbury's picture

Mr. Jefferson...

...was speaking of the gun of his day, the flintlock. Am I to assume you would be in favor of banning all guns since the flintlock and returning to Mr Jefferson's time?

AL PELLETIER's picture

I might add, Jared

We have an unlimited pool of weapons trained professionals who could be cheaply hired as armed security guards in our schools. I'm 65, retired, healthy and would easily meet that criteria. I have no need for paid health insurance and a big salary. A four hour work day would work just fine. I'm a Vietnam Veteran. There are thousands out there just like me who would require little to no expensive training. We know how to react in the face of danger and are not afraid to die to protect others.
This would be my idea #7.

The idea of an armed guard is good.

Just one could be sufficient at the main entrance with all other entrances locked? Getting locks for all schools that don't have them, along with a guard, would be a hefty budget for any school district but I'm thinking it's time is due. I can't imagine any parent turning that down.

Jim Cyr's picture

he idea of armed guard is

not a good idea. Too unreasonably expensive ! The Sandy Hook massacre may have taken a different turn had the door been either metal or just covered with bars. As the only way the loonie got in was by shooting out the glass at a locked entrance " glassed " door. He must of known of the ease of entrance ! We have a medical control problem, not a gun problem. His mother was in over her head and was looking into getting him institutional help and he would have none of that.

AL PELLETIER's picture

Another great idea Jim!

I think it was overlooked by every one due to it's simplicity. And it's sad that the mother didn't take the guns out of the home knowing she was dealing with a time bomb.

Valiant effort Al.

When was the last time you had any training at the level of law enforcement tho? If it was during the Vietnam era you wouldn't be properly trained as times and situations are vastly different now. Law enforcement gets re-trained often to keep their skills at a high level so the costs would be ongoing. There would be other obstacles I'm sure. Just knowing how to shoot and die for others is just a small portion of law enforcement.

ERNEST LABBE's picture

Really Gary?

Really Gary? Are you implying that Al and I are old dogs and can't be taught new tricks? Are we so old that we wouldn't be able to grasp new ideas? If you are a Vietman era person then speak for yourself please. Perhaps Al and I have aged more gracefully than you.

Bob Woodbury's picture

Are you...

...and Al willing to guarantee, I repeat - guarantee - you will not "lose it" like the young man, about whom all his friends and acquaintances said was a loving, giving man, who was shot outside of Togus. Remember - this is an absolute guarantee and a willingness to accept responsibility if something goes wrong. Somehow, there has to be something inherently wrong saying the answer to gun violence is more gun violence.

AL PELLETIER's picture

I'm with you Woody

How the hell do you know how any one is going to react in such a violent situation. Please read more of my posts and others about this subject in this forum and keep joining in. Thanks

Whoa .... Vietnam here too!

What I'm getting at is the expense of the training and any other cost that would crop up with your idea. I would never question the ability of any vet, NEVER! Never too old. The idea is great

Idea Great? Wrong

I should correct myself. Definitely not great. Maybe good at best? I know of some schools with police officers in the school but fighting guns with guns isn't the whole solution. Some places, Boston? probably. Dover-Foxcroft? Nope. It's not that simple.

AL PELLETIER's picture

True Gary

John A.Cone School Topsham Maine 1960. In the 8th grade I was the top of my class (of 12). God, times were so much simpler back then. I don't like the idea of more guns AT ALL, but if it comes to that to protect our kids it should be determined by the people of each town and community and not a federal mandate. Just an idea.


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