M. Jordan: It's a people issue

I am tired of reading about people's interpretation of the Second Amendment. The amendment reads “A regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

Some are indicating that refers to the National Guard. I find that naive. The whole purpose for a militia is to protect us from tyrannical rule, both foreign and domestic. The last time I checked, the National Guard is run by the government. That defeats the purpose and cannot be considered a militia.

I am appalled and shocked by what happened in Connecticut. It was an act of a criminal and coward. That person killed his mother and stole the guns. That makes him a murderer and a thief.

The premise still applies, if you take the guns away from the law-abiding citizens, only the criminals will have them and people will not be able to defend themselves.

If you look at what happened — the gun did not go to the school and start shooting — it was the person behind the gun.

What is being discussed about banning the high volume clips and banning certain weapons is an insult to the memory of those children. That will solve nothing. It is just a way to make people feel better about themselves.

People shouldn't be fooled by the media and politicians. It is not a gun control issue; it is a people issue.

Michael Jordan, Auburn

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Betty Davies's picture

Some people will always break laws, so....

The conservative view seems to be, "Therefore, we should not have laws."

Burglary is illegal. Yet some people burglarize. No use having a law against it.

Murder is illegal, yet some people kill other people. No use having a law against it.

If there's a ban on certain types of weapons of mass destruction, some people will still acquire and use them. No use having a law against them.

I'd settle for a REDUCTION in mass murders.

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So you consider...

...one person to be a "regulated militia" and the greatest threat to our freedom is our own government? Those National Guardsmen from Maine who have given their lives in defense of that freedom are what - dupes?

AL PELLETIER's picture

Another "do nothing letter"!

Michael, while your busy giving us your interpretation of the 2nd Amendment and throwing out that same stupid cliche' some nut is out there polishing his AR-15 and counting the 600 rounds of ammo. he's stashed to try to out do what other nuts did in Newtown CT. or a theater in CO..
Your letter, well meaning as you think it is, solves absolutely nothing and as long as folks like you do nothing---nothing will change and innocent young lives will continue to be lost.
Gabby Giffords and Mark Kelly are doing SOMETHING. I strongly recommend that you and anyone reading this post become pro-active regarding ending these mass killings by going to americansforresponsiblesolutions.org and start doing something NOW.
Washington may shove something down our throats that we, as gun owners, don't want. Please read Gabby's plan and join us.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

1. “AR-15 and counting the

1. “AR-15 and counting the 600 rounds of ammo.” – I’m glad you can see the future.
2. “Gabby Giffords and Mark Kelly are doing SOMETHING.” – I guess that is what counts even though there is no guarantee Giffords’ proposal would not have prevented the two shootings you mention.
3. I would say that America needs nothing from Washington, they give us enough headaches as is.

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1. You don't think it will happen again?

2. So doing nothing instead of something would have prevented the two shootings you mentioned?

3.Then so something to abolish the government and rep[lace it with...Oh - sorry - I forgot. Doing something is not the answer. Guess you're in a big hole and still digging.

AL PELLETIER's picture


Useless comment.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

From observation, you tend to

From observation, you tend to provide a emotion response to those who disagree with your point of view. I think the readers see this pattern.

AL PELLETIER's picture

Your damned right I do.

I get emotional every time these senseless massacres occur and your damned right I want to do something about it besides making stupid comments like the one you just made. Get a life, Gravel, don't just sit on your ass and criticize those of us who are smart enough to realize we have to step up to the plate and deal with this horrible problem in America.
Yes, my actions are emotionally motivated and I'm proud of it. What are you proud of? If you say"common sense ", I'll barf!

MARK GRAVEL's picture

One last comment: "Get a

One last comment:

"Get a life, Gravel, don't just sit on your ass and criticize those of us who are smart enough to realize we have to step up to the plate and deal with this horrible problem in America."

1. I'm criticizing your solution.
2. You perceive the problem is bigger than it really is.
3. Perhaps you give yourself too much credit.

AL PELLETIER's picture

And my last comment

I just realized I've been having a war of wit with an unarmed man. I must avoid reading your useless posts, they give me a headache.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

Your emotion does nothing to

Your emotion does nothing to effect a workable solution. For example, the Federal Assault Weapons Ban did nothing to deter the Columbine High School Shooting.

The best you can say about all the proposed remedies thus far is that some solutions may slowdown these nuts, but do nothing to stop them.

Do you know that abuse of prescription pain medication kills slightly more people each year than guns accounting to Center for Disease Control statistics? Yet I hear silence from the emotional left.

Emotion always has and always will produce defective solutions. That said, I guess seeing a bad solution pacifies the emotional in our society.

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And we...

...see yours.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Better "the right to arm

Better "the right to arm bears", as Dosh would say?

MARK GRAVEL's picture

I’m against bearing any arms

I’m against bearing any arms that reveals triceps flab that moves like a bowl of gelatin.

 's picture

I wish Michelle Obama would

I wish Michelle Obama would enhance her wardrobe with a few items that have actual sleeves. Her bare arms are embarrassing.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

You noticed that too, eh?

You noticed that too, eh?

MARK GRAVEL's picture

Moreover, people were allowed

Moreover, people were allowed to own the state of the art rifles of that time. The same rifles used by the military.

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I would readily agree...

...to go back to those 1791 arms, when the 2nd amendment was written. Are you?

MARK GRAVEL's picture

The correct interpretation of

The correct interpretation of my analogy is that state-of-the-art firearms where good enough then, so state-of-the-art firearms is good enough now.

However, I understand the conclusions that you draw with thinking with emotion.

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It's really good...

...to have a conversation with someone who is completely unemotional about killing machines.


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