N. Willard: Limit ban to assault guns

I totally disagree with Harvey Lord's statements in his letter (Jan. 8), "Ban on booze didn't work either."

I wonder if the creators who wrote the U.S. Constitution more than 330 years ago might not have banned assault weapons in the hands of the general public if they had imagined them.

No one is proposing taking away guns from sportsmen and law-abiding citizens. Gabrielle Giffords and her husband support the Second Amendment but are against assault weapons. The gun manufacturers sell a lot of guns by spreading the lie that the government is going to take away everyone's guns.

There are common sense laws that can be passed and enforced that would prevent shootings such as what happened to Giffords and in Newtown.

Making alcohol has been done for centuries and can be done at home using a wide variety of substances. Gin was probably made in tubs before there were bathtubs. I cannot imagine an assault weapon being manufactured at home. There is no comparison between the reasons for banning and the logistics of enforcing a ban on alcohol and one on guns.

Teachers and administrators have too much to do to be constantly thinking about where their guns are. I know from experience that teaching takes complete concentration as well as attention to the subject and the students. Picturing all those guns in schools is a horrific scene — worse than the old "wild West."

Nancy Willard, Woodstock

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Jim Cyr's picture

Limit Ban to

those that have been displaced by our broken down "Mental Health System" and stop tearing up the Constitution and our Rights. The problem is not guns. Your "common sense laws" are OK for common sense people! People on mind alteration medicines are the bigger problem. And the politicians that are destroying the MHS need to be in the discussion.

JOANNE MOORE's picture

Great letter, Nancy.

It is amazing to me the whining going on about assault weapon ownership. Anybody would think these guys are afraid of losing their manhood is they could'nt fondle their Bushmasters. Heck, laws change all the time. It used to be ok to drive without a seatbelt. Now it is against the law. And yet, look at the lives saved by just buckling up.

It's time to change the law again. This time making it illegal to own and sell these killing machines.

CLAIRE GAMACHE's picture

Statistics

The statistics I'm ready are saying that shooting deaths tripled after the ban on assault weapons was lifted. That says to me to it worked to some extent and should be resumed. The NRA says we should be concentrating on getting guns out of the hands of people who should not have them and leave law abiding citizens alone. I'm all for that but we cannot even begin to do that if we don't know who has them. Registering and licensing will at least give us an idea where the guns are and where the illegal gun trade is. The second amendment says nothing about owning guns secretly in fact the word regulated is right in there. Police and firemen should know when they approach a house if an arsenal is in there. The only people who benefit from all the background check loopholes and unregistered sales are organized crime and terrorists. A legitimate owner would benefit from knowing if a gun has been involved in a crime or has been stolen before buying it. The reason we put up traffic lights is because too many accidents are happening at an intersection. We need gun regulation because too many of our citizens are getting slaughtered.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

"The statistics I'm read[ing]

"The statistics I'm read[ing] are saying that shooting deaths tripled after the ban on assault weapons was lifted. "

You need to show your source because the CDC reports to not indicate this trend. In fact, the homicide rate has been decreasing since 1991.

See for yourself - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

MARK GRAVEL's picture

USA Today, which looked at

USA Today, which looked at FBI figures, reports that 774 people were killed between 2006 and 2010 by a mass killer, defined as a person who kills four or more people in one incident. The figures show that mass killers strike on average once every two weeks. A third of the 156 mass killings did not involve firearms, but rather fire, knife or other weapon. Almost all of the mass killers in those years were men, and their average age was 32. The dozens of deaths caused by mass killers represented about 1 percent of all homicides between 2006 and 2010.

CLAIRE GAMACHE's picture

Semantics

I've seen the same statistics from several sources. It seems to me we are parsing words here. Shooting deaths as opposed to mass shootings which require the deaths of 4 or more people?? Maybe those statistics are not the same but the folks are just as dead. What this is about is not crime or hunting or the Constitution. It is about terrorism. When folks have to bring a gun to go and buy a quart of milk because they are afraid of being shot, they are terrorized. This is not the kind of freedom Americans fought for in 1776, or the Civil War or WWI and WWII . I also read a story this week about a guy who bought a gun at Walmart and sold it as he left the store for $500 more than he paid for it. He was bragging about his good fortune. He should be considered an accomplice to the crimes that will be committed by his customer who obviously was avoiding a background check. We need laws that would catch both these guys and that would hold them legally accountable in both civil and criminal court. It's "responsible " gun owners not behaving responsibly that will bring about these laws.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

P.S. I'm still waiting for

P.S. I'm still waiting for your source.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

BTW, the Form 4473 which

BTW, the Form 4473 which must be filled out when purchasing a firearm is a signed affidavit of which states that you are not buying the gun for anyone who is not legally allowed to own it.

That said, there are already laws in place to prevent said behavior. Moreover, what new law would prevent said behavior? As long as you allow the sale of guns, this behavior will continue. Those who don't care about the law will simply skirt it.

Lastly, you don’t have any F’n clue what type of freedom people fought and died for in the above mentioned conflicts. Moreover, if you could travel back in time and asked those individuals, you would get a plurality of answers. All that said, we should stop trying to imply what past generations meant or did not mean. Deal with the here and now.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

While the writers of the

While the writers of the constitution could not envision assault rifles, an undefined and subjective term in itself, they did allow citizens to own the state-of-the-art weapon of that era – go figure?

Who do you think buys these so called assault weapons? Hunters and law-abiding citizens. Given these are the owners, then you and others are in fact advocating taking away guns, guns that some people call assault weapons.
The logic is clear; if you can buy these weapons legally today, but not tomorrow, then they are taken away. The government will attempt to take these guns away, so that is why people are rushing out to buy them ; they have a justifiable reason.

“There are common sense laws that can be passed and enforced that would prevent shootings such as what happened to Giffords and in Newtown.”

Name just one?

In closing, I would like to ask you to familiarize yourself with statistics the CDC publishes about gun deaths. If you do, you’ll find that the Newtown shooting is a rare albeit target event.

RONALD RIML's picture

Mark's revealing Freudian Slip

Mark Gravel writes: "I would like to ask you to familiarize yourself with statistics the CDC publishes about gun deaths. If you do, you’ll find that the Newtown shooting is a rare albeit target event."

In the world of the NRA and their fierce, loyalist supporters - there are two types of people: Gun-owners and Targets.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

The CDC data is real and

The CDC data is real and tangible. Your comment has no evidence backing it up; it just another knee jerk emotional response.
Show your proof Ronald ... Riml.

RONALD RIML's picture

Nothing like your Freudian slip, eh Lad.....

Bwa-haa-haa-haa-HA!!

MARK GRAVEL's picture

It is a bit ironic that my

It is a bit ironic that my tablet auto-corrected to that specific word.

MARK GRAVEL's picture

Correction

target --> tragic

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