E. Field: Stop glorifying guns

Recently, NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre gave his solution to gun violence: hire armed guards for every school.

There were 114 additional gun deaths in America in the seven days after the Sandy Hook massacre. If Americans saw the pictures and names of people killed with guns every day the way they did with the Connecticut victims, they might take those deaths seriously, too.

The NRA says it is the voice of gun owners, but really it is the voice of the gun industry, receiving millions from manufacturers of assault weapons, hand guns, high capacity magazines and gun distributors and dealers. Think how many more guns would be sold if teachers were armed and guards placed in all 140,000 public and private schools.

If assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines were no longer available, gun owners would have to make do with their rifles, shotguns and handguns. There’s no Second Amendment right to any specific brand or type of gun or ammunition. There is a constitutional right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, that is stolen from shooting victims in America every day.

This country needs to stop glorifying guns and violence

Elected officials need to stop cutting spending on social services and find help for the many people with anger and mental health problems. In the meantime, doing a better job of keeping guns away from mentally unstable people would help this country a lot more than buying thousands of guns to arm guards in schools .

Ellen Field, New Gloucester

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Jeff Johnson's picture

New Facts

I'd just like to point out that no Assault weapon was used in Newtown, CT. Adam Lanza killed his mother, and stole her legally registered handguns, and the Bushmaster. He left the Bushmaster in the car.

He also tried to purchase firearms recently, but was turned down due to his background check.

Seems to me that the the system worked, and denied him guns. He had to murder and steal them.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495

Jason Theriault's picture

Wrong

He sued a hand gun to end his misrable life, but he killed the kids with the bushmaster.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/connecticut-lanza-guns/index.html

Jeff Johnson's picture

references

Jason... Your references are more than a month out of date.

Jeff Johnson's picture

Mea Culpa

Turns out I may have been misled... My original post outdates yours, and I was let to believe that it was actually posted on 01/15/2013, not 12/15/2012. Your information is more accurate than mine.

My apologies.

FRANK EARLEY's picture

Nothing has changed.....

One year ago, I had my gun safely stored and ready for an emergency. Last summer I went to a gravel pit with a hand full of paper targets and practiced. I spent many hours practicing when I was younger, but not so much today. Right this minute, my gun is in a safe place, ready to go. one year from now, just as every year past, my gun is here, ready to go.
In all the years I've had a gun, which is a while, I have somehow weathered many uprisings such as the one happening now. Many times over the years I've heard about all the paranoia over the Government's plan to somehow take away everyone's guns. I've read all about the NRA's assertion that our rights are in peril. Protests make good news footage, and show us all who the real fools are. If your twenty or thirty years old you may think this is something new, if your an extremest, you may think it's a party. How ever you feel, enjoy it now. It does end. Two years from now, my gun is still going to be in it's nice safe locker, ready to go. Not once did I feel the urge to scream at some news camera, yet still I feel I'm making a point. I guess I'll just keep doing what I've been doing.....

AL PELLETIER's picture

Same here, Frank

Great common sense letter.

RONALD RIML's picture

Yep

Frank's letter makes sense.

There's a reason 'Gun Nuts' earned the nickname they did. And responsible gun owners unfortunately take some of the fall-out.

Jason Theriault's picture

What we need is for both side to relax.

What we need is for both side to relax. Democrats need to stop thinking of the gun owners as militia men who are stockpiling food and arms because they think the end of the world is coming. And Republicans need to stop thinking that Democrats are going to use gun registration as a pretext to taking everyone’s gun in preparation for the UN to force socialism on us.

Gun are a part of our culture, and in many areas of the country, a necessary tool. However, in many other parts of the country, guns aren’t needed and pose a significant safety hazard. So, we need a balanced approach. I think more background checks and limits can be place on anything with a detachable magazine. But there are areas of the country where additional firepower is appropriate and warranted, and we must make sure that those who need it can get it.

Jeff Johnson's picture

Israel:

Take this as rumor, as I heard it second hand and haven't done the research or verified it.

In Israel, every citizen has to spend at least 2-year stint in their armed services. I would imagine that small arms training is a part of that service.

Teachers are encouraged to be armed, and have all been trained in small arms safety, assault, etc with their various military services.

Just thinking in print here... but I wonder how many of our National Guard teachers wouldn't mind trading their weekends for some extra training, and carrying in school?

Bob Woodbury's picture

I'm sorry...

I just can't buy the answer to gun violence is more guns.

Andrew Jones's picture

Right. The answer is to hide

Right. The answer is to hide under your desk and hope that the police respond in time to before you die.

Bob Woodbury's picture

Spoken like a true...

...paranoid NRAer.

Andrew Jones's picture

Swing and a miss, Bob. I'm

Swing and a miss, Bob. I'm not a member of the NRA, just a guy that realizes that all the laws on the books don't stop people willing to break them.

Bob Woodbury's picture

So I guess...

...we just throw up our hands, shrug our shoulders and watch more massacres. Oh well.

Jeff Johnson's picture

^^^ Spoken like a...

Target/victim

MARK GRAVE's picture

1. Any casual observer has

1. Any casual observer has only to look at the sales volume of assault weapons to see this topic goes beyond the NRA and gun manufactures to the heart of American citizens from coast to coast.

2. Your premise about needing to sell more guns to place armed guards in school does not hold water. My guess is that most of the individuals interested in that line of work already have their weapon of choice.

3. What is the formal definition of an assault rifle anyway? You will never ride of these weapons even if they become illegal – assuming that an assault weapon can be defined.

4. The Newtown shooter did use guns that he did not purchase – it is impossible to keep guns out of the hands of crazy individuals.

All that said, guards in school sounds like a good solution. If it is good enough for the president’s kids, it is good enough four our kids.

Bob Woodbury's picture

By the numbers...

1. The result of the paranoid rant of the NRA.
2. I don't think even YOU believe this, particularly in light of what you wrote in 1.
3. Gotta get the wording right before we can stop killing people.
4. Absolutely right. But you can keep weapons of mass destruction out of people's hands so they can't be stolen.
All that said, the answer to gun violence is more guns. Yea. Right. THAT makes sense.

Jason Theriault's picture

Armed guards and such

First off, The President is not a good example because compromising the president by kidnapping his kids is a real threat that has global repercussions. So his kids need a much higher level of protection than most kids.

Secondly, the President is not a good example. Because of the nature of the threats he and his family face, he has the best trained body guards in the world, the United States Secret Service. The armed guards that would be in our schools would not be members of the United States Secret Service. We would be lucky if they can get a police officer or two, but in most schools, especially in cities, your going to end up with a person getting some training and thrown into the fire. It will be the equivalent of the TSA. Do you really want an armed TSA type guy guarding kids?

Third - Who is going to pay for this? Here in Maine, LePage just took a dump on the school budgets. You think they can afford to spend the $100K per school this will cost?(1-2 guards making $30-40 each, plus benefits and training and equipment) Or do you want the federal government to pick up the tab?

Now, I'm not saying armed guards are not the answer. I think it can be part of the answer, but you can't just say "Armed guards" without figuring a way to pay for it.

MARK GRAVE's picture

Then I guess Sandy Hook was

Then I guess Sandy Hook was no real threat, so all this rubbish about gun control is unnecessary.

AL PELLETIER's picture

In case you didn't catch it the first time.

An assault weapon is a high velocity, semi automatic rifle with features designed for military combat situations. Got it?

MARK GRAVE's picture

Please view this link:

Please view this link: http://www.assaultweapon.info/

AL PELLETIER's picture

I just did.

The whole report seams to be trying to justify massacres by implying any kind of gun could have done it.
The last entry of this "waste of my time" report states, (referring to this report) "It was solely the work of an individual". Am I to assume that individual is Daniel Webster, or Mr. LaPierre?
This is my last comment on this thread. I sense a pissing contest is about to ensue and your giving me a headache.

MARK GRAVE's picture

I guess you don’t like

I guess you don’t like someone challenging your definition of an assault weapon, the main topic you keep avoiding. That is fine, it is your prerogative.

BTW, the other picture is an M1 carbine, a poplar WWII weapon, which looks like a simple ranch rifle and not like those scary AR-15’s. My assumption at this point is that you have not internalized your definition of an assault weapon since you will not put pictures to your words.

Bob Woodbury's picture

So nomenclature...

...is more important than saving lives.

MARK GRAVE's picture

Maintaining freedom is worth

Maintaining freedom is worth a few lives.

Bob Woodbury's picture

You are...

...in serious need of help.

MARK GRAVE's picture

Do we not sacrifice a few

Do we not sacrifice a few lives for the freedom to drive a car? The answer is ostensibly yes.
Do we not sacrifice a few lives for the freedom to use medication? Again, yes.

We can go on and on. The fact is that we do loose a few in the name of freedom.

To deny this fact is to be disingenuous with yourself.

MARK GRAVE's picture

Is this an assault rifle?

MARK GRAVE's picture

The readers and myself are

The readers and myself are patiently waiting your response.

RONALD RIML's picture

Any problem assaulting anyone with that???

I arrested and charged folks with 'assault' for a heck of a lot less......

AL PELLETIER's picture

Hard to tell

From what I can see it could be a bee bee or pellet gun, it could be a .223 and it could be a movie prop. You and ALL your devoted readers can breath now.

MARK GRAVE's picture

For this discussion consider

For this discussion consider it a 30 cal.

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