Bill would create database of gun-permit holders

AUGUSTA — Just as the Maine Legislature settles one concealed weapons records issue, another one awaits action.

Gov. Paul LePage has signed a bill rushed through the Legislature in a single day that temporarily keeps data on Maine's concealed weapons permit holders confidential.

A separate bill awaiting action would create a central database of permit-holders to give law enforcement agencies easier access to the information.

The Kennebec Journal in Augusta (http://bit.ly/12MuHvP ) says police like the proposal. They say it would give Maine's law enforcement community better access to information that could help police get guns out of the hands of criminals.

Robert Schwartz, executive director of the Maine Chiefs of Police Association, estimates there are about 45,000 permits in Maine. State police estimate there might be 33,000 concealed weapons permits.

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Steve  Dosh's picture

Bill would create database of gun-permit holders

Mainers 13,02.20 11:30 am ish HST
Guns kill ?  Daily • ref: LAS VEGAS (AP) — The Las Vegas Strip became a scene of deadly violence early Thursday when someone in a black Range Rover opened fire on a Maserati, sending it crashing into a taxi that burst into flames, leaving three people dead and at least six injured. http://www.hawaiiantel.net/news/read.php?rip_id=%3CDA4J6CCO3%40news.ap.o... Alo'ha from Pahoa, HI the state with the lowest gun prevalence rate . .? 10 % and the highest longevity rate in these U S of A /s Dr. Dosh and ohana

CLAIRE GAMACHE's picture

The blind

How are the police supposed to be keeping guns out of the hands of criminals if they have no way of checking who does and doesn't have the right to carry a gun legally ? I suppose you have to wait until everybody is dead then you can do something about it? This is the year 2013. We have databases and we should be using them. A person who is carrying a legally puchased gun and who is licensed to carry it and is not causing trouble with it should have nothing to fear from a database. The only ones who benefit from keeping law enforcement in the dark are the gang bangers and the people who make money selling them weapons.

Eric Yoder's picture

What???????

How the hell is a database of concealed carry holders, who have had background checks in order to get a concealed carry permit, going to help police keep guns out of criminal's hands? What a load of crap. You people are going to try absolutely anything, going to try any and every wording to get this type of garbage passed. You're hoping one of the thousands of ways you can word this junk legislation will make it past the people. Guess what? You won't get it past me and many others. Make a mental note however. If or when the proverbial doo doo hits the fan in this country, you are not going to be forgiven.

Steve  Dosh's picture

Eric : A: Serial numbers ?

Eric : A: Serial numbers ? It's kinda' like registered sex offenders http://sor.informe.org/cgi-bin/sor/index.pl
it's a tracking system . Get it ? Got it • /s Dr. Dosh and ohana

Martha Burnell's picture

Reciprocity

Recently my daughter got a concealed carry permit in a state that shares reciprocity with Maine. The sheriff's department personnel where she attained it were not aware that reciprocity with Maine was in place. That is probably partly due to the fact this has only happened within the last couple years. I suspect there are many in law enforcement in Maine who are no more aware of this than here. As part of making information as to who is legally permitted in Maine, it would also probably be wise to make sure law enforcement knows which states have established reciprocity with Maine. As a CCP holder myself, I am thankful I can legal carry protection when I am visiting Maine.

Noel Foss's picture

Seems reasonable.

I don't see a problem with the Police having access to a central database for that; it'll make for better communication between towns about permit holders.
That being said, I personally think that it should be an internal database only, not one for public view.

Disagree

It's still an issue of gun ownership not being questioned according to our Constitution. Also, let me pose this question, do you think the bad guys are registering their guns?? This article highlights that with this central data base, the police would be able to identify the bad guys. The bad guys are unknown until they enter our homes, attack us on the streets and in our places of business. I don't get why people are so bent on giving away our Constitutional rights under the guise of most anything.

Noel Foss's picture

This is for CCW permits, not a gun registry.

This would only be a database of who holds a CCW permit in the state. Since they're managed by individual towns, there's no central database of permit holders. I'm 100% against firearms registration, but I'm also against somebody BS-ing a cop about having a CCW and having left it at home when they're actually carrying illegally. If this database would allow officers to check somebody's story against the actual registry, and potentially catch a criminal carrying illegally, then I'd see it as a positive. It's the same as checking a driver's license against the database if you get pulled over for speeding.
However, I fully believe that any such database should be for Law Enforcement use only, and not be publicly accessible.

Not the Same

The Right to Bear Arms should not be questioned. This is a Contitutional Law and is not the same as a police officer pulling over a speeder or other violator of the rules of the road. If a gun carrier has broken the law and the officer is in need of arresting a person, then the only data base they should be checking is the most wanted or a central data base of criminals..not a data base of law abiding innocent citizens.

Noel Foss's picture

Nothing to do with the right to bear arms.

Nobody's infringing on the right to bear arms here. You can still open carry all you want without a permit.
However, since state law requires a permit to carry a concealed weapon, it seems logical to have a means of confirming somebody's legally allowed to do so. The alternative is what they have in place now, where if you forget your permit at home there's no way for an officer to determine that you're not carrying illegally. That gives them the choice of letting you go with a warning, or placing you under arrest until they can determine you're not actually violating state law. To me, having them be able to confirm my right to carry concealed would be preferable. Especially since if you're doing it legally, you don't have anything to worry about anyway.

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