LePage says Legislature's override of budget veto is 'sad day for Maine'

Robert F. Bukaty/Associated Press

Gov. Paul LePage responds to reporters Wednesday after the Legislature overrode his veto of the state budget. "It's a sad day for Maine," LePage said.

AUGUSTA — The Maine House and Senate voted Wednesday to override Republican Gov. Paul LePage’s veto of the state budget for the next two years, avoiding a state government shutdown and temporarily raising sales, meals and lodging taxes.

How the Legislators voted

Scott Thistle/Sun Journal

Gov. Paul LePage responds to reporters Wednesday after the Legislature overrode his veto of the state budget. "It's a sad day for Maine," LePage said.

LePage reacted Wednesday afternoon during a news conference, saying, "It was a sad day for Maine."

He blasted Democrats and Republicans whom he said had created a "country club" of the State House and again disputed the notion that his budget, which cut about $400 million in state revenue-sharing with municipalities, would automatically result in property-tax increases.

"I'm very disappointed on this budget," LePage said. "Until we start understanding what makes an economy drive and why the southeast and the southwest and the Atlantic states have such good economies, until we emulate some of their behaviors we are not going to be anywheres but 50th place in the country for doing business."

The House voted 114-34 just after noon Wednesday. The Senate followed with a 26-9 vote. Both tallies exceeded the two-thirds threshold required by law to override the veto and enact a two-year budget, which will take effect on July 1. Wednesday’s votes on the budget veto mark the first time that the Democrat-controlled Legislature has overridden one of LePage’s more than 40 vetoes this session.

The vote in the House followed two hours of intense debate from both parties. The Senate vote followed nearly two hours of debate.

Sen. Dawn Hill, D-York, who chairs the legislative committee that crafted the budget deal, cast the override vote in stark terms.

“Today, you can no longer vote whether or not you agree with the budget or whether you like the budget. That’s a concern you can bring up when we return in January,” she said. “But today, your vote will be either to shut down or not to shut down and I hope you will think seriously about that.”

The Senate vote came down to whether enough Republicans would stand by their original votes in support of the budget to override LePage’s veto. Two of those Republicans urged their colleagues to reject the veto.

Sen. Brian Langley, R-Ellsworth, said his vote to override LePage’s veto was meant to support the lawmakers who negotiated a budget during the past six months.

“This budget is ugly. We have no great options. We were briefed that we were voting for things we were diametrically opposed to,” he said. “My vote today is a statement of support for our Republican team on the Appropriations Committee. For what it’s worth, I’ve got your back.”

Sen. Tom Saviello of Wilton, another of the Republicans to support the budget the first time around, touted Republican victories in the budget. Income-tax cuts lawmakers passed two years ago that have been championed by LePage and Republicans remain intact, he said, as well as a Republican-backed proposal forming a work group to review unfunded mandates on towns and cities.

“Today, I vote with my friend and fellow logger, Troy Jackson,” Saviello said, referring to LePage’s comments last week about the Democratic senator from Aroostook County.

Some House members spoke in similar terms, while many of the budget opponents said concern for constituents caused them to stick with their original votes against the deal.

“This budget represents poor choices and misplaced priorities,” said Rep. Lawrence Lockman, R-Amherst. “It represents politics as usual in Augusta, a surrender to the status quo and a dangerous disregard for the challenges facing our state. … Mainers cannot afford to pay any more taxes.”

Rep. Jeff Timberlake, R-Turner, agreed and said he supports neither the current budget compromise nor Gov. Paul LePage’s original proposal.

“I don’t want to raise any taxes,” he said. “I want smaller government and I believe we can do it. We’re headed for chaos and if we continue at this level it won’t be sustainable.”

Rep. Jarrod Crockett, R-Bethel, is one of the Republicans who voted against the budget earlier this month but flipped his vote on Wednesday.

“A state shutdown is a failure for all of us, there’s no question about that,” he said. “I’m either voting for a budget that I don’t necessarily love or I can vote for a government shutdown. That’s what the people back home see this as.”

Rep. Benjamin Chipman, I-Portland, is another lawmaker who switched his vote to support the override Wednesday after voting June 13 against the budget. He said he changed his vote because a budget must be passed by Monday to avoid a state government shutdown.

“We’re in a really tough spot right now,” said Chipman. “We don’t have a lot of time to renegotiate the budget and nobody wants to see a state shutdown. We don’t have a lot of options. Somehow we have to find a way to go forward.”

Rep. Kathleen Chase, R-Wells, the ranking Republican on the Appropriations Committee, said the stakes were too high to sustain LePage’s veto.

“Voting (no) is absolutely nothing less than chaos,” she said.

Rep. Peggy Rotundo, D-Lewiston, who co-chairs the Appropriations Committee, said the budget isn’t perfect but a state shutdown would be devastating.

“There isn’t a member in this chamber who couldn’t find fault with some aspect of this budget,” said Rotundo. “Yet this is a true compromise. … In a divided government we cannot demand all or nothing.”

Tension began building over the biennial budget soon after LePage proposed it in January. Maine municipalities, along with numerous legislators, immediately singled out LePage’s proposal to zero out funding for the four-decade-old municipal revenue sharing program for two years and his bids to cut back property tax relief programs as the major battleground. Together, those proposals would have saved some $275 million over the biennium, according to LePage.

A unanimous coalition of lawmakers on the Appropriations Committee disagreed and wrote a budget package that avoids nearly 65 percent of the revenue sharing cuts and restores some of the property tax relief programs. The lawmakers also introduced a $30 million hike in spending on public schools and funds to restore merit and longevity pay for state workers who have had their salaries frozen for more than four years.

Most Republicans, including LePage, agreed that the original budget document contained many provisions that they didn’t like, but the real conflict came with the committee’s final decisions, which included temporarily raising the sales tax from 5 percent to 5.5 percent and the meals and lodging tax from 7 percent to 8 percent. LePage immediately began talking about a veto, which he followed through with on Monday.

The biennial budget, because it was passed so late in the legislative session and is considered an emergency measure, required a two-thirds vote in the House and Senate. The enactment votes barely met that threshold, 102-43 in the House and 25-10 in the Senate. Five GOP senators and 23 House Republicans joined all Democratic senators and most House Democrats in voting June 13 to enact the budget.

Wednesday’s House vote wasn’t as close, with some Democrats, Republicans and independents who originally opposed the budget voting to override the veto. Many cited the threat of a state government shutdown as their motivation.

Without a budget in place by July 1, all but essential services of state government would shut down, repeating a 1991 scenario that Democrats and Republicans in the Legislature have said they want to avoid.

On Thursday, the governor proposed a temporary 60-day budget in the form of the continuing resolutions used by Congress to pay for ongoing government functions while he and legislators negotiate a new budget deal. Maine Attorney General Janet Mills, a Democrat, said such a plan would violate the Maine Constitution, but Michael Cianchette, LePage’s chief legal counsel, said a short-term budget that does not call for state government to spend more than it takes in would not violate the Maine Constitution and could be presented as an emergency bill.

House Minority Leader Kenneth Fredette, R-Newport, said LePage’s proposal was “unreasonable.”

“If there were a viable alternative, a path to inject more Republicans values into this budget, I would consider it,” said Fredette. “The choice we have is a shutdown or a budget compromise. The time for negotiation has passed. There is no plan B, nor have I been approached with a plan B.”

The votes to override the budget veto put legislators in a position Wednesday to divvy up about $1.25 million for roughly 130 bills that passed without dedicated funding. The bills that gain funding will go to LePage, who could veto them, sign them or let them take effect without his signature.

BDN State House reporter Matthew Stone contributed to this report.

How the legislators voted

Maine Senate Yes votes

  • Alfond, Justin, D-Cumberland
  • Boyle, James, D-Cumberland
  • Cain, Emily, D-Penobscot
  • Cleveland, John, D-Androscoggin
  • Craven, Margaret, D-Androscoggin
  • Dutremble, David, D-York
  • Flood, Patrick, R-Kennebec
  • Gerzofsky, Stanley, D-Cumberland
  • Goodall, Seth, D-Sagadahoc
  • Gratwick, Geoffrey, D-Penobscot
  • Haskell, Anne, D-Cumberland
  • Hill, Dawn, D-York
  • Jackson, Troy, D-Aroostook
  • Johnson, Christopher, D-Lincoln
  • Katz, Roger, R-Kennebec
  • Lachowicz, Colleen, D-Kennebec
  • Langley, Brian, R-Hancock
  • Mazurek, Edward, D-Knox
  • Millett, Rebecca, D-Cumberland
  • Patrick, John, D-Oxford
  • Saviello, Thomas, R-Franklin
  • Sherman, Roger, R-Aroostook
  • Tuttle, John, D-York
  • Valentino, Linda, D-York
  • Woodbury, Richard, U-Cumberland
  • Youngblood, Edward, R-Penobscot

Maine Senate No votes

  • Burns, David, R-Washington
  • Collins, Ronald, R-York
  • Cushing, Andre, R-Penobscot
  • Hamper, James, R-Oxford
  • Mason, Garrett, R-Androscoggin
  • Plummer, Gary, R-Cumberland
  • Thibodeau, Michael, R-Waldo
  • Thomas, Douglas, R-Somerset
  • Whittemore, Rodney, R-Somerset

Maine House Yes votes

  • Beaudoin, Paulette, D-Biddeford
  • Beavers, Roberta, D-South Berwick
  • Beck, Henry, D-Waterville
  • Berry, Seth, D-Bowdoinham
  • Black, Russell, R-Wilton
  • Boland, Andrea, D-Sanford
  • Bolduc, Brian, D-Auburn
  • Briggs, Sheryl, D-Mexico
  • Brooks, Joseph, U-Winterport
  • Campbell, Richard, R-Orrington
  • Carey, Michael, D-Lewiston
  • Casavant, Alan, D-Biddeford
  • Cassidy, Katherine, D-Lubec
  • Chapman, Ralph, D-Brooksville
  • Chase, Kathleen, R-Wells
  • Chenette, Justin, D-Saco
  • Chipman, Benjamin, I-Portland
  • Clark, Tyler, R-Easton
  • Cooper, Janice, D-Yarmouth
  • Cotta, H., R-China
  • Crockett, Jarrod, R-Bethel
  • Daughtry, Matthea, D-Brunswick
  • DeChant, Jennifer, D-Bath
  • Devin, Michael, D-Newcastle
  • Dickerson, Elizabeth, D-Rockland
  • Dill, James, D-Old Town
  • Dion, Mark, D-Portland
  • Doak, Peter, R-Columbia Falls
  • Dorney, Ann, D-Norridgewock
  • Evangelos, Jeffrey, U-Friendship
  • Eves, Mark, D-North Berwick
  • Farnsworth, Richard, D-Portland
  • Fitzpatrick, Joyce, R-Houlton
  • Fowle, Lori, D-Vassalboro
  • Fredette, Kenneth, R-Newport
  • Frey, Aaron, D-Bangor
  • Gattine, Drew, D-Westbrook
  • Gideon, Sara, D-Freeport
  • Gilbert, Paul, D-Jay
  • Gillway, James, R-Searsport
  • Goode, Adam, D-Bangor
  • Graham, Anne, D-North Yarmouth
  • Grant, Gay, D-Gardiner
  • Hamann, Scott, D-South Portland
  • Harlow, Denise, D-Portland
  • Hayes, Terry, D-Buckfield
  • Herbig, Erin, D-Belfast
  • Hickman, Craig, D-Winthrop
  • Hobbins, Barry, D-Saco
  • Hubbell, Brian, D-Bar Harbor
  • Jorgensen, Erik, D-Portland
  • Kaenrath, Bryan, D-South Portland
  • Keschl, Dennis, R-Belgrade
  • Kruger, Chuck, D-Thomaston
  • Kumiega, Walter, D-Deer Isle
  • Kusiak, Karen, D-Fairfield
  • Lajoie, Michel, D-Lewiston
  • Libby, Nathan, D-Lewiston
  • Longstaff, Thomas, D-Waterville
  • Luchini, Louis, D-Ellsworth
  • MacDonald, W., D-Boothbay
  • MacDonald, Sharri, R-Old Orchard Beach
  • Maker, Joyce, R-Calais
  • Malaby, Richard, R-Hancock
  • Marean, Donald, R-Hollis
  • Marks, Timothy, D-Pittston
  • Mason, Andrew, D-Topsham
  • Mastraccio, Anne-Marie, D-Sanford
  • McCabe, Jeff, D-Skowhegan
  • McElwee, Carol, R-Caribou
  • McGowan, Paul, D-York
  • McLean, Andrew, D-Gorham
  • Monaghan-Derrig, Kimberly, D-Cape Elizabeth
  • Moonen, Matthew, D-Portland
  • Moriarty, Stephen, D-Cumberland
  • Morrison, Terry, D-South Portland
  • Nadeau, Allen, R-Fort Kent
  • Nadeau, Catherine, D-Winslow
  • Nelson, Mary, D-Falmouth
  • Noon, William, D-Sanford
  • Pease, Jethro, R-Morrill
  • Peoples, Ann, D-Westbrook
  • Peterson, Matthew, D-Rumford
  • Plante, Joshua, D-Berwick
  • Pouliot, Matthew, R-Augusta
  • Powers, Christine, D-Naples
  • Priest, Charles, D-Brunswick
  • Pringle, Jane, D-Windham
  • Rankin, Helen, D-Hiram
  • Rochelo, Megan, D-Biddeford
  • Rotundo, Margaret, D-Lewiston
  • Russell, Diane, D-Portland
  • Rykerson, Deane, D-Kittery
  • Sanborn, Linda, D-Gorham
  • Saucier, Robert, D-Presque Isle
  • Saxton, Jeremy, D-Harpswell
  • Schneck, John, D-Bangor
  • Shaw, Michael, D-Standish
  • Short, Stanley, D-Pittsfield
  • Stanley, Stephen, D-Medway
  • Stuckey, Peter, D-Portland
  • Theriault, Charles, D-Madawaska
  • Tipping-Spitz, Ryan, D-Orono
  • Treat, Sharon, D-Hallowell
  • Tyler, Thomas, R-Windham
  • Verow, Arthur, D-Brewer
  • Villa, Lisa, D-Harrison
  • Volk, Amy, R-Scarborough
  • Weaver, Windol, R-York
  • Welsh, Joan, D-Rockport
  • Werts, R., D-Auburn
  • Wilson, Corey, R-Augusta
  • Winchenbach, Ellen, R-Waldoboro
  • Winsor, Tom, R-Norway

Maine House No votes

  • Ayotte, Bernard, R-Caswell
  • Beaulieu, Michael, R-Auburn
  • Bennett, Paul, R-Kennebunk
  • Campbell, James, I-Newfield
  • Crafts, Dale, R-Lisbon
  • Cray, Dean, R-Palmyra
  • Davis, Paul, R-Sangerville
  • Dunphy, Larry, R-Embden
  • Espling, Eleanor, R-New Gloucester
  • Gifford, Jeffery, R-Lincoln
  • Guerin, Stacey, R-Glenburn
  • Harvell, Lance, R-Farmington
  • Jackson, Roger, R-Oxford
  • Johnson, David, R-Eddington
  • Johnson, Peter, R-Greenville
  • Jones, Brian, D-Freedom
  • Kinney, Jonathan, R-Limington
  • Knight, L. Gary, R-Livermore Falls
  • Libby, Aaron, R-Waterboro
  • Lockman, Lawrence, R-Amherst
  • Long, Ricky, R-Sherman
  • McClellan, Michael, R-Raymond
  • Newendyke, Melvin, R-Litchfield
  • Nutting, Robert, R-Oakland
  • Parry, Wayne, R-Arundel
  • Peavey Haskell, Anita, R-Milford
  • Reed, Roger, R-Carmel
  • Sanderson, Deborah, R-Chelsea
  • Sirocki, Heather, R-Scarborough
  • Timberlake, Jeffrey, R-Turner
  • Turner, Beth, R-Burlington
  • Wallace, Raymond, R-Dexter
  • Willette, Alexander, R-Mapleton
  • Wood, Stephen, R-Sabattus

Absent

  • Duprey, Brian, R-Hampden
  • Kent, Peter, D-Woolwich
  • Kornfield, Victoria, D-Bangor

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 's picture

Sad?? Really?? I beg to differ.

I see this as a bipartisan effort on behalf of the people of Maine. The legislature moving forward despite the lunacy of the governor. Kudos to the lawmakers. Soon the governor will be standing on a proverbial island proclaiming that everyone is crazy except him.

 's picture

"A time for choosing"

"What greater service we could render if only we had a little more money and a little more power."

"The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits."

Not a whole lot to be said. They said they would override the veto and they did. I see many "R"'s voted for it also. Its sad.

Sad day

It was a sad day when this LePage was put in charge. Worst Gov. ever...

GARY SAVARD's picture

Hate filled little man from

Hate filled little man from Minny, Jerry. Nothing going on back home worthy of your low class insults? Bad upbringing, or too many years under a union umbrella?

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Ah Gary, you warm my heart....

If you are wanting to hurt my feelings, you have to try very hard, you see you gotta have them to feel anything....my parents were kind people and taught us to never be fakes like some of you here....

You make me out to be what we see in all Repub states, angry shallow Tea Potty people always attacking and that shoe will never fit...So continue to live in your small world of making me out to be be a real bad guy when you have so very many more angrier in your party of haters.....

Shall I provide you the hundreds of videos to prove it to you....

Dana Burgess's picture

So Sad

So sad they didn't teach you to disagree with someone without being rude and crude. With all you say about MR. Le Page and the way you state it your both cut from the same cloth . He must have kicked your butt when you were growing up together by the way you talk. It is time to let go of your anger and move on. You say your parents were kind people, they taught you how to hate, that doesn't sound kind to me.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Dana, you are truly sad to even assume anything....

You don't know jack and assuming my parents taught me hate just shows how ignorant you truly are....again kicking my butt never came even close, he could hardly stand or walk straight and a slow wind would knock him over and again your assumptions are based on ignorance once again and you talk with pure stupidity.....pray on that....

Your parents should have taught you to mind your business....

Dana Burgess's picture

Proof positive

Your comments to me are proof positive you can't disagree with anyone without hate in your words. If your parents didn't bring you up that way then more trips to the woodshed were needed. I am sure Maine is a much better place with you in N. H.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

You have me confused

with somebody that is suppose to give a damn. Like you, I have property in Lewiston and live elsewhere.... Well I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

Dana Burgess's picture

Property

I do care and I do own land in Maine. My family still lives and owns land in Maine as well. The last comment from you was the only one I don't have a problem with. We can agree and disagree without the caustic remarks and name calling. What is wrong with being civil. I know you do not like the Governor but the name calling doesn't help your case any. Just saying

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

I care too ,since I have much family that lives there also

I'll take it under advisement.

Dana Burgess's picture

Thanks

Thank you, I just feel you could be a bigger asset if you lost some of the name calling is all. I know you can get your point across, and you have knowledge of how things can be made better in Maine.

 's picture

Personal Attacks

It is sad to see one poster in the comment section constantly refer to our Governor as a drunk. It reflects very badly on that poster and extremely poorly on the Lewiston Sun-Journal which quite obviously condones the practice.

It adds nothing to the discussion and, in fact, subtracts from it. Perhaps where he lives that is acceptable behavior but its not the way people who live in Maine usually discuss political issues.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Blue Goose, La Cage, Lou's Place Patron, Pauly was;

AUGUSTA — Wearing a leprechaun party hat and smiling broadly, Maine Gov. Paul LePage signed a law Friday that allows the state's bars to serve alcohol starting at 6 a.m. on St. Patrick's Day, when it falls on a Sunday.

------------------I will reiterate....
Was a drunk, when we served him alcohol at Lewiston bars, still is a drunk....where I live is irrelevant...I have property, pay taxes in Lewiston...the friends (my moms best friend) that took him in as a teenager would say (has said) a whole lot more that him just saying a drunk is putting it mildly, and they housed him....

It adds to the conversation when his behavior and lack of acting as a leader, with abusive, foul, bullish, loud mouth, childish tantrums has the same attributes as an alcoholic drug abuser ...

We are not here for your righteous massage of words of what and how you want to feel or want to hear discussion of others opinions, particularly if they are against a sorry pathetic person you voted for. Your whole premise of how we do and say things here are no different elsewhere, except only by those like yourself that are disconnected from a real world.

Careful stepping up on your righteous soap box, the air maybe too thin for you to come close to thinking clearly or at all since you support this buffoon.

Dana Burgess's picture

Your wrong

I didn't vote for the man, I don't live in Maine, I do have property there. Your name calling is wrong and if your family brought you up that way they did a poor job raising you. I didn't vote for Obama and don't agree with his stance on a lot of things but I don't call him names, I pray for the man. If you had the proper raising you would do the same for the Governor. I don't see you throwing your hat in the ring to do anything but call names and shoot your mouth off. We did have a name for that when I was growing up like I said I don't call names, but will pray for you.

Catherine Pressey's picture

LePage: May not be.

A drunk, I believe the posting commentor knows of his past history. What we Maine tax payors know is he cares about the rich, can not see the forest of the trees. And ohhhh so many of his (LePages Comments) have sure sounded like they are coming from someone that is not in touch with the real world, much like drinkers. Now I have no knowledge of LePage drinking, but I have full understanding of how darn awful it is to see our Governor make a fool out of himself and take the state of Maine with him. To bad he could not see how he really looks. That too, is much like drinkers handle issues, it is always someone elses fault. The budget he wanted would have raised the towns property taxes out of sight. While he claims on TV ads to be lowering taxes. Only lower taxes he gave us is for the higher income or well off Mainers. I agree with others comments that we sure need to replace him in Augusta, send him back to Marden's where he can be King once more. He is a two face ass, that while Mayor of Waterville went to Augusta to argue with the then Gov. Check out U-tube see him in action as Mayor. Then once in Augusta himself, he was doing exactly what he was fighting agaist. I Agree that it is to bad we can not respect him simply because he is our Governor, I tried real hard to see his side. That got lost in his rants and awful comments. In all due respect is not his to have. RESPECT is something one earns. My opinion cjp

Steve  Dosh's picture

LePage says Legislature's override of budget veto is 'A sad day

LOL hump day 14:45 hst ?
It's a happy day , Paul . Go visit S.A.D. 18 or any one of them . Get out of the office for a change . Kill your TV . Go \/egan . Eat healthy . Excercise . Just a suggestion ;)
btw - our Gov. Neil Abercombie ( D ) HI turned 75 - t o d a y - . Early childhood education was a bill he passed yesterday. He called it , " the most important piece of legislation to cross my desk . " " i believe that children are our future. Tech them well and let them lead the way . Show them all the power they possess within . Give them a sense of pride . .to make it easier . .let the children's laughter remind us what we used to be . . , " Mr. ßully •
hth ? , Steve

Speaking of the TV

I was in the Gov's office yesterday to fix a printer and noticed that the TV was off (was my first time up there so I was looking for the TV to know where I was going). So how much did the tax payers pay for a TV that would only be on 2 weeks?

Gerry Thompson's picture

Did taxpayers

pay for it at all or did he purchase it himself?

According to the article

According to the article published a few weeks ago it was purchased for them from Best Buy by OIT.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Empty screen

is what he has to show, nothing, a smoky screen, a black abyss of his forecasted future is what they only have to display.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Complainers of Paying your share of taxes

You have whiners here that complain about paying taxes, but they all expect and want services.

States need:
Police
State Corrections
Infrastructure
Higher Education
Environmental Regulation
Health Care

So those of you that don't want to pay for your share should move to say Mississippi or Alabama, Louisiana, or that is where you have nothing of a quality life and can live.

Federal:
Actually, as a share of the nation's economy, Uncle Sam's take this year will be the lowest since 1950, when the Korean War was just getting under way.

And for the third straight year, American families and businesses will pay less in federal taxes than they did under former President George W. Bush, thanks to a weak economy and a growing number of tax breaks for the wealthy and poor alike.

Income tax payments this year will be nearly 13 percent lower than they were in 2008, the last full year of the Bush presidency. Corporate taxes will be lower by a third, according to projections by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

So pay your share and get over it....Americans pay for services for decades all around the spectrum..

Steve  Dosh's picture

. .† y v m , Jer . Live free

. .† y v m , Jer . Live free and die , in New Hampster [ sic.] the rest of you •
Does AZ and NH celebrate MLK jr. day yet ?. They didn't . .for years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King,_Jr._Day . but our US federal govt. wouldn't give them $$ for federal roads and stuff . Even my Hawai'i had to institute a " right turn on red " law so we could build our interstate, the H-1 . S e r i o u s ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_H-1 :D /s Steve

DANNY FITZSIMMONS's picture

where is Susan Collins?

where is Susan Collins? I don't see her name on the list is the paper trying to shield her vote? those in Androscoggin that voted NO should be remembered and voted out of office their next election.

Catherine Pressey's picture

Seems already someone:

Set Danny straight, Wow! Susan Collins would not be on this voting list. LIKE GET THIS SHE IS IN WASHINGTON taking care of Washington Business. And we sent her there, so if you do not know who your sending, and to where your voting to send them than Danny if your a Republican, that may clear up the confusion. Yes I know you just made a wee confused mistake that, the rest of us just canna leave it alone. LOL So when there is a as you say next election maybe you should stay home. Was because of lost of mistakes that LePage was voted into office. Was because lots of people whated to believe he was just like the rest of us. Came up from the streets he did, and he is just as confused as you seem to be. His behavior is OUT OF ORDER. And I wish many like your self had stayed home that day. My opinion cjp

The response to Danny's post

The response to Danny's post just goes to show you how discerning the readers are here. Danny doesn't know that Susan Collins is a U.S. Senator and therefore doesn't vote on our Maine legislation yet the Dems here are blaming his lack of understanding on being Republican while he tells them to vote everyone out who voted NO to override the Governor's veto. Low Information is low information..can't blame FOX for deficient reasoning skills. FOX is one among many liberal news stations and the newspapers aren't doing a very good job at information either. I can see you using this reasoning if the Republicans had control of the news, Catherine, but you do know(being a high information voter yourself) that this is not true-correct?

Danny, the only reason why the legislation passed the override was to prevent a state shutdown. The budget that they voted in is not a good one...I think Representative Jeff Timberlake said it best. Look him up! We need him to stay in office and not get voted out.

Catherine Pressey's picture

to correct:

Line 4 the word should have been lots of mistakes.
Line 5 the word people wanted to believe.
I apologize for not doing my spell check lol My spelling is out of order lol good day.

Catherine Pressey's picture

to correct:

Line 4 the word should have been lots of mistakes.
Line 5 the word people wanted to believe.
I apologize for not doing my spell check lol My spelling is out of order lol good day.

Catherine Pressey's picture

to correct:

Line 4 the word should have been lots of mistakes.
Line 5 the word people wanted to believe.
I apologize for not doing my spell check lol My spelling is out of order lol good day.

Thank you our leaders in

Thank you our leaders in Androscoggin County who voted NO! You have my vote again!

AL PELLETIER's picture

Thanks Danny

I needed a good chuckle with my morning coffee.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Going back to reread yours...

Dan your comment is baffling?

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

You need a class on Branches of Government...LOL

Susan Collins is in the FEDERAL US SENATE..as United States Senator not a Maine State Senator.....duh!

You should stay off the political issues since you cannot differentiate between the two...

Just another low informed Fox watcher.....

Yeah thats right, not

Yeah thats right, not everyone here is as smart as Jerry the lib. As far as Fox views are concerned, they the most informed voters out there.The Dems are the party who depends on the low information voters.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

You keep on telling yourself that, you might retain something.

“Ideological news sources, like Fox and MSNBC, are really just talking to one audience,” said Cassino. “This is solid evidence that if you’re not in that audience, you’re not going to get anything out of watching them.”

However, the study concludes that media sources have a significant impact on the number of questions that people were able to answer correctly. The largest effect is that of Fox News: all else being equal, someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer just 1.04 domestic questions correctly — a figure which is significantly worse than if they had reported watching no media at all. On the other hand, if they listened only to NPR, they would be expected to answer 1.51 questions correctly; viewers of Sunday morning talk shows fare similarly well. And people watching only The Daily Show with Jon Stewart could answer about 1.42 questions correctly.

On average, people were able to answer correctly 1.8 of 4 questions about international news, and 1.6 of 5 questions about domestic affairs.

Steve  Dosh's picture

Hold up , Jer :) 15:00 hst ?

Hold up , Jer :) 15:00 hst ? Weds
Dan ? Susan Collins is - lost - in the DC O-Zone layer ( zero - oOO0oº ) the o z o n e . She's lost in space. Permanently out to lunch . http://www.collins.senate.gov/public/ She's not my Senator nor is Paul my governor
How about that speech our President gave yesterday about climate change \ global warming ?
Dr. Forbes on the Weather ® Channel could have written it . HAHhahAah !
Deny science Republicans . Again • hth ? /s Dr. Dosh

FRANK EARLEY's picture

It's a sad day because of higher taxes????????

There are not to many things I can think of that cost the same or less today, than say five years ago. If anyone thinks they or anyone else can run the state at last years cost, I'd like to hear how. That said, I would like to add, I don't mind paying taxes. I do how ever, expect a return for my money. If additional taxes means a better way of life, I'm all for it. I don't feel that Bonzo's idea to eliminate revenue sharing, is what I would call benefiting from paying taxes. He is still denying the increased property taxes, is a direct result of his plan to eliminate revenue shareing.. What is going on in his head? I've seen some severe cases of denial in the past, but this one takes the cake.
If paying more taxes is what this State needs to get moving , we need to do it. I would rather pay a little extra, than loose everything LePage wanted to take away.........

Jane Ryerson's picture

it's a sad day because of higher taxes

Those folks who can afford to pay higher taxes don't mind paying higher taxes as long as they can keep everything they have. When are people going to wake up that we can not continue both as a state and nation to spend spend spend and not think we are going down an ill fated road. Folks should make a budget themselves and see what it takes to live within that budget, and I mean, figure out exactly your net income for the month and your output and then divide it by 4 to see what you need to live on every week. A true budget. If I can't afford my budget then I am going to have to make cuts. I know some families who have cut out what we call luxuries now (cable tv and back to standard antennae) or have cut back the once or twice a month going out to supper. You know why, because they need to pay for the necessities in life and not just the things they want. Same with the state. Cuts have to come sometime, but you say, as long as they don't come in my lifetime great. Let's just continue to saddle this burden onto our kids. Well I say, cut taxes, cut spending, and yes I can well afford to pay the additional increases, but why should I. Why should I pay for all the crap we don't need? I may think our governor is crass and ill spoken, but you don't make cuts which are going to help the rich, cuts made are going to affect everyone, it's just those that can afford it don't feel it as much. Too bad folks couldn't get with the program and stop overestimating what is coming into the till thereby overspending....

Steve  Dosh's picture

Frank ? Post a picture, dude

Frank ? Post a picture, dude • it's relatively E Z to do . Just a suggestion . It's ƒree , also . Doesn't co$t a thin dime . Just a suggestion
/s, Steve http://www.twincitytimes.com <-- not an endorsement LSJ ® 

FRANK EARLEY's picture

Picture of what?????

?????

I would have noticed...

90% of my work (for a private company) is for State agencies.

CLAIRE GAMACHE's picture

A sad day?

Is he trying to say the day he shut down the government would have been a happy day? For whom I wonder. One Republican was quoted as saying that nobody but the unions would notice if the government was shut down. What planet are these people from? It's hard to tell if comments like that are about desperation or lunacy.

Its a sad day, because

Its a sad day, because Mainers will have to pay higher taxes. Its a step backwards.

We would have anyway...

...if LePage had gotten his way. The only difference would be which taxes go up and whether Paul would have (im)plausiblle deniability.

When you compromise with

When you compromise with Democrats, the results are always higher taxes.

ANTHONY NAZAR's picture

Politics = Compromise

This is how it's done. No one got all they wanted, both sides hammered out a deal that keeps the state going. Thank you very much to those who voted yes - yours was the responsible way.

Governor, as with so many things, you are once again wrong - but at least you're consistent.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

No Pauly

The saddest day is when the 38% let a drunk loser like you sit in the Guvs seat...

The only loosers are the

The only loosers are the Maine tax payers who will have to pay higher taxes.

ANTHONY NAZAR's picture

I don't like LePage

but that sort of name calling is too much like the explosion he had last week. Let's not sink to his level. Let's just make very sure a new Governor is sworn in in 2015.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Common Sense

With a touch of Oops! Mr. Vaseline has given us repubs, two black eyes...prevails....

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