Headlines don't tell the whole story of Paul LePage

Jeff Pouland Photography

Gov. Paul LePage

Crema is a Portland waterfront café that boasts of coffee roasted in small batches and pastries baked from scratch with “natural, local and organic ingredients.”

As much as any place in liberal Portland, it is a gathering spot for a city whose voters have no use for Gov. Paul LePage. Only 19 percent of Portland voters went for LePage in the 2010 election – there was no place he did worse. 

This summer, Dave Dearborn was sitting at a table in the high-ceilinged café reading a book and nursing a coffee. Now, more than two years into the Republican’s tenure, what did he think of the governor?

“He outright embarrasses us with the idiotic things he says,” Dearborn said.

He said that after he finished his coffee, he was going up to the headquarters of a different candidate for governor, Eliot Cutler.

Cutler is the independent and former Democrat who came in a close second to LePage and is hoping to do better in 2014. But he will be competing with a well-known Democrat, U. S. Rep. Mike Michaud, and LePage to be the governor.

Dearborn said LePage “plays on people’s ignorance. He has a bombastic approach to politics that appeals to people who are willfully ignorant.”

About 90 miles away sits a Maine town where LePage’s brand of politics went over better than it did in any other community of any size in the state.

In Albion, a rural town in central Maine, LePage won by a landslide, with some to spare. He got nearly 61 percent of the vote from this town of 2,000. 

Locals there get their morning coffee at the Albion Corner Store at 14 Main St., where you can also all fill up your pickup and grab a slice and a Pepsi.

At lunchtime in August, men in jeans and T-shirts and some wearing fluorescent safety vests hurried in, joked with the women behind the lunch counter, ordered something “to go” and headed back to the job site.

One of them was Brent Dow, 35, owner of a metal roofing company with four employees.

“He’s kind of like me,” Dow said, “He jokes a lot. He makes a lot of comments, but he stands by them. And some of them I agree with.”

What matters more to him, he said, was that LePage “thinks like a worker … he’s more for the working person than a person who has a state job or who found a way to stay on state benefits … He seems to go after those people.”

Parris Varney, who owns the store with his wife Kathy, echoed Dow’s assessment of the governor.

“To me, he’s not a typical politician. He’s a little rough around the edges, but he says what other people think, but they don’t say it,” he said. “He’s a regular guy.”

The customers in Crema and the Albion Corner Store may be miles apart in their views, but they have something in common: They are representative of the public debate over the governor.

Whether you are interviewing folks at coffee shops, reading letters to the editor and online comments or news coverage, most of the LePage debate has been about the sizzle, not the steak. About what he says and how he says it, not what he’s done and not done. 

The Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting has interviewed LePage three times and more than two dozen others — from voters to political insiders to LePage’s friends and enemies — to develop a fuller picture of the state’s 74th governor. 

What emerged was the story of the man behind the headlines, headlines that reflect one side — but one side only — of the state’s chief executive. 

The picture also includes the stubborn former business consultant who has made foundational changes in the state’s fiscal status; the populist who reflects the pent-up frustration of working people with what they see as Maine’s profligate spending; the easily-frustrated CEO with little patience for the slow grind of the legislative process. 

And perhaps most telling: the anti-politician with his disdain for the sometime necessary tact required of political leaders, whose attitude may well be getting in the way of fulfilling more of his agenda.

“I’m a lightning rod,” LePage said in one of the interviews. He attracts — perhaps even courts — extreme reactions. He’s been called everything from a bully to a moron by his detractors. Those closest to him see a personable, self-deprecating man who reads every bill, study and document on his desk.

The middle ground on LePage is a slim sandbar in the torrent of opinions, but among those few who stand there is Jill Goldthwait, a former independent state senator from Bar Harbor. 

“I’m sure that I don’t know any others (politicians) that are as fearless about political fallout” from their comments and positions as LePage, she said. His “single-mindedness has served him well,” she said, but when his comments turn crude “it interferes with his ability to accomplish his agenda.” 

To Tony Payne, a self-described fiscal conservative and the one-time head of the Alliance for Maine’s Future, a pro-business group, LePage “has moved the dial on policy more than anyone in my lifetime, as no governor has, on more fronts – simultaneously.” 

Karen Heck, who succeeded LePage as mayor of Waterville, represents those disgusted with him. She said the governor’s well-publicized comments show a lack of self-control that damages the state’s image to potential new businesses — his supposed calling card.

Citing what she called LePage’s “toxic” childhood, Heck said, “He’s a scared little boy who wishes his mother could have protected him and his father loved him” and learned to survive by being “the biggest, baddest person around.”

But LePage doesn’t see himself that way.

“People think I’m a bully, but it’s just that I get a little offended when they get condescending,” he said. That’s when, “I get a little condescending to them.”

With the exception of his hardcore followers, there is little support for his most extreme remarks, from declaring that the president of the United States could “go to hell” to going on TV to say that a legislator who opposed his budget was “the first one to give it to the people of Maine without providing Vaseline.”

People who spend time with him say there is another LePage the public would be surprised to see: studious, respectful – but always to the point.

Sen. Emily Cain, D-Orono, was House minority leader during LePage first two years in office and worked closely with LePage on ethics reform and domestic violence legislation.

In her meetings with the governor, Cain said, “He’s usually very focused and determined. The governor has never been a bully to me and, quite frankly, I would not have stood for it.”

In two sit-down interviews and one car trip from Augusta to Portland and back — a total of about six hours — the LePage of the screaming headlines showed up only once. But the one time offers an explanation for all the other outbursts:

Replying to a question about working with legislators, he said: “I hate politics,” his voice rising, the “hate” coming out in bold, all caps. “I just hate having to compromise my principles.”

Continue reading Chapter 1: Why LePage was elected

Naomi Schalit contributed to this story. Disclosure: Severin Beliveau, who is quoted in this story, contributed $250 to the Center in 2013. The Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting is a nonpartisan, non-profit news service based in Hallowell. Email: mainecenter@gmail.com. Web: www.pinetreewatchdog.org.

About the author: John Christie is the co-founder, publisher and senior reporter of the Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting. He has covered local, state and national politics as a reporter, editor and publisher at newspapers in Maine, Massachusetts and Florida and holds a BA in political science from the University of New Hampshire.

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Roger Moulton's picture

Where'd the old english ladies go?

What is it you say Jerry {Crickets}?

FRANK EARLEY's picture

If I wasn't fairly sure...............

If I wasn't fairly sure the Sun Journal, would never allow this intentionally, I would mistake this article for a poor attempt at a campaign add.
If you have lived in this State for the at least a year, have followed LePage and the financial consequences of his, "from the hip" decisions, If your a property tax payer in this State, or if you have issues with health or poverty, You know that life in this State is anything but pleasant. It doesn't have to be this way, but what do you expect from a State who's Governor celebrates his refusal to accept the input of others and rely entirely on his own sort of twisted intellect. He treats this State as his own private playground. If someone comes along with an idea better than his or just different, it's his way or the highway, and he usually ends up storming home in a tissy fit.
He takes no responsibility for his own statements, he expects others to make whatever he says, good again. To put it bluntly, he is unfit to serve as Governor.
The office of Governor isn't a playground, there are lives at stake, there is the well being of the entire State in his hands. Every single person living in Maine is in danger every time Paul LePage makes one of his signature "shoot from the hip" decisions.
How many people have been negatively affected from LePage policies. How many people were kicked off the Medicaid rolls. These aren't the people being interviewed for these articles. How many thousands of people will suffer due to LePages landmark refusal to insure more poor and young people as well. These are people who are already poor, and more likely to need medical intervention at some point. When that happens who will pay then?
Lets get into revenue sharing, or should I say whats left of it. Yes, LePage decided to drastically reduce revenue sharing to cities and towns, the results of those cuts? Higher property taxes, less general assistance, a general decrease in the way of life for residents. All this so LePage can maintain his beloved budget.
The bottom line is, life doesn't need to be so hard. The budget can be balanced with calculated well thought out plans. Not knee jerk policy making, at the hands of a self proclaimed bully. The biggest problem facing all the citizens of Maine is, Our Governor isn't nearly as intelligent as he thinks he is, and we are all feeling the effects..........

If you have issues with

If you have issues with health, how you can't blame that on Lepage. If you have issues with poverty, Obamas more to blame than anyone else. There's more people than ever on food stamps and now working part time in America because of the terrible polices of this idiot. It's only going to get worse until Obama and all of his cronies are out of controll.

Jason Theriault's picture

Take the blinders off

Listen, no one party or individual is responsible for where Maine and the US is. My biggest problem is that is you really think there is something systematically wrong with how Maine is operating, you took the worst possible approach to solving it, and elected the worst possible governor to implement it.

To make systematic changes in Maine's economy and political structure, getting into power is important. Holding onto that power is FAR FAR more important. And by being confrontational and belligerent, LePage guaranteed a "LePage backlash", which is why the dems have control again of the house and senate.

If you want to make changes, the best bet is slow and steady. Government is slow, and you can't change it overnight. Hell, if you could, then the other side could change it right back as soon as they got into power, and as GOPers have pointed out, it took Maine 40 years of democratic control to get to where we are. Why would you think you can change that in 2 or 4?

No, you should have taken it slow, gotten the hospitals paid back and then gotten medicaid under control with slow changes. You should have accepted the medicaid expansion with the caveat that if it gets too expensive, it will get cut. And you should have worked with democrats more. If it looks like your bipartisan, people are less likely to "take sides" and more likely to look at the results.

In other words, you should have nominated Les Otten. LePage's brash style plays into the GOP vs Democrats mentality. But the reality is that there are more Democrats in the state than Republicans.

FRANK EARLEY's picture

Finally A breath of fresh air...........

You are correct there isn't one party to blame, but there are numerous actions taken by one, that has more than helped this State slide down the rhetorical "poop chute". Paul LePage in his haste to appear productive, tends to do things without really thinking them thru.
Take the debt to the hospitals, that debt was incurred over several years, for what ever reason, the bills weren't paid over a long period of time. Where was it written, that the total debt was to be paid in one lump sum. I feel an agreeable payback plan, over time, would have attained the same results without, putting such a strain on the States economy. By not draining the coffers all at once like that, the money could have been used to balance the budget, thus allowing more freedom on how to use the profits from the alcohol contract. Problems can be solve properly as they occur. It takes deliberate and systematic solutions, and a certain amount of careful planning, when the next problem arises, as apposed to putting all your assets into a poor solution to one problem, then having to scramble with no assets to maintain daily business.
His political reasons for not expanding Medicaid, and thats exactly what they were "political", not the garbage excuses he's using. Has now put a financial strain on the State to help with trying to make the Affordable Care act Available to the masses, and we can only hope the many thousands of low income people trying to become insured, somehow find a way. I wonder how it feels to have your own Governor throw you under the bus, just so he can please his political allies. LePage thinks he's saving money with this action, fact is these people are going to get sick with or without insurance. Who pays then? Again, LePage's lack of forethought.
We can only hope as many of us as possible can survive until the next election. After which we should have a Governor who is concerned about the well being of the State and its citizens. Not his Tea Party puppet masters..................

Kyle Wilson's picture

what are you accopmplishing Roger?

So... you suggest that I get health insurance through an employer for my type-1 diabetes. O.K. sure. just please help me find an employer who is willing to set up shop in rural Maine, hire young inexperienced workers, and provide health insurance in the first place. The number of new buisnesses coming into Maine hasn't significantly increased since Lepage took office, and where they have come in has been our larger population centers. Nowhere near here. I notice that you didn't mention my terminally ill mother. Tell me Mr. Wisdom, what should she do? Just lie down and die quietly?

Also... you, like Lepage seem to like calling people names and making personal attacks. Have you turned the State around by making such comments? Has Lepage? Or have you alienated the few people who might have worked with you to accomplish the goals you want to reach?

Roger Moulton's picture

And where do you mean by rural maine?

Because the company I work for actually might hire such a person and we are mostly in rural Maine and also a very new company. I of course will not give you a reference but wouldn't hinder your chance at a job here. Just because you've bought into the liberal media's bs doesn't mean you couldn't be a good worker so if you're anywhere near one of our locations I will gladly give you the email address to our HR dept and you'd probably get a job.

Roger Moulton's picture

I am paying taxes and raising a family

I am paying taxes and raising a family. I have no formal education past high school, I worked my way up into a decent job...here in Maine even and trust me when I tell you that even though they are evil too the republicans will bring more jobs to Maine than any democrat ever. As far as your terminally ill mother she can't be refused treatment based on her ability to pay(that's a law) so you're mother is not going to die based on the fact that she lost her mainecare. I do feel bad for your mother and for you for the loss that is in your future. I, like Lepage, am not some big jerk that hates everyone and just wants to take care of me and mine, but I do understand that this state was in a terrible place and without some large changes that we'd all have to suffer a little for, we won't be able to continue the way we were going wiithout eventually having to face harder times with more folks losing their benefits than what you see now. Lepage and myself get frustrated by people thinking that things can stay the way they were, it wasn't working and when frustrated we get angry and make very blatant points, sometimes insulting people when we do it. When you explain something nicely and it's obvious a person isn't listening you tend to raise your voice and change your tone. The truth hurts that why people get offended, if you tell me I have the ugliest hair in the world, I'm not offended because I have none. If you tell democrats what they want to do and have been doing isn't working, they get very offended because it is the TRUTH. The vaseline comment was true and hilarious and I know you know a person who has used that exact wording for something else and you didn't hate them or think they were crude. As far as the comments preventing people from working with me or him, those comments haven't been made at anybody actually WILLING to work with him. I've only alienated people that live a lie and can't handle the truth. As far as what I'm doing, I'm working 2 jobs, not because I want to but because I pay $8,000 a year for health insurance along with co pays and other expenses and raising a family is not cheap so when I hear people who are unemployed complain about losing a freeby it does make me angry. It also makes me angry to see single mothers who actually deserve and need the help get barely enough to get by when grown men are sitting on a couch collecting benefits. I'm old fashioned and I speak the truth whether rude or cruel but I believe life is what you make of it for a far larger majority than others are willing to admit. Your mother deserves to have mainecare and if you truly can't find a job then you need help with your diabetes as well but so many take advantage of the system that the money just isn't there for your mother and you. Very sad yes but again IT ISN'T THERE. Unlike the corrupt as heck federal reserve we can't just print money to pay for everyone that thinks they deserve it. And when young guys like you man up, those who truly can't work and deserve it can get the money they need as well as the rest of us surviving with oh I dunno only one job, so I can enjoy my family who I provide for. I know I'm going off here in different directions but really you are asking for what's not available and asking to go back to ways that have forced our governors hand into doing the things that anger you.

FRANK EARLEY's picture

Roger, thanks for the entertaining read.....

Well lets see here, you speak the truth. According to who? From what I've read, you missed the truth on quite a few points. When you say you speak the truth, are you referring to what you perceive to be the truth, or do you check the facts. You seem to generalize on some issues. Just where do you get the idea that so many people are abusing the system, there isn't any money left. There are people abusing the system, a few, not the record numbers, people like you try to suggest. Sometimes I feel I should just quit reading these posts, stop posting to the comments being made. It's just that almost every day I read posts from some extremely misguided individuals. People who are just mad at the system, because maybe they got the shaft in life, and they just don't think it's fair. Thats how I feel about your friend LePage. He got a raw deal in life, and look where he is now? Doing it to others. where does he look when it's time to find some extra funds? Does he go after the billionaires building their homes up on the coast? Does he reduce tax breaks for the rich? does he cut back on the corporate taxes? No, none of that, he goes after the poor, the less fortunate. He knows they can't fight back, and to him it's just wasted money anyway.
If you really believe LePage is going to make anything in this state any better, your barking up the wrong tree. Show me one thing he's done for the good of those most in need. What about that mans terminally ill mother. She lost her MaineCare for what? The woman is dying, what right does LePage, or anyone for that matter, have to not only cancel her health coverage, but compound the poor woman's anxiety. Is a balanced budget worth that much to you?
We can only count the days until we can finally show LePage the door, and I would love to be there, to do just that. We also must keep an eye out for the people LePage is going to screw in the meantime. His actions could very easily cost someone their life. I'm glad my relatives don't live here.............................

Kyle Wilson's picture

I should clarify my position

Though I concede that I'm registered as a democrat (that will likely change soon) I considder myself more of an independent. I'm no fan of Obama, nor Lepage. I believe that both are equally responsible for poisoning the collective pool of our politics. I find myself typically having to defend democratic views only because of the threat that many Republican policies impose on my ability to rise above my current situation and create a better future for myself and my family. I'm not looking for any hand-outs but instead I seek hand-ups. I don't want to be a charity-case my whole life but I can't become independent so long as I have to worry every day about how I'm going to survive. I respect the views of others and encourage them to express them but the larger the gap grows between the warring parties, the longer it takes for true reforms to take place. I worry that the partisan rhetoric expressed (by both parties, though Lepage seems to fuel it most) will collapse the nation, reducing the quality of life for all. I understand that you are very proud of your accomplishments and you deserve to be. Unfortunately Maine has become a very tough place to gain a foothold for younger generations. I might support cuts to Mainecare so long as there were policies put in place to reduce the negative impacts on those of us who are most vulnerable (those with life-threatening pre-existing conditions). I prefer more out-of-the-box solutions as opposed to republican or democratic ones. Just for example: instead of focusing on either amnesty for all illegal imigrants or stepping-up Border control, I believe we should step-up diplomatic efforts with Mexico so that we could send federal agents (military if necessary) into the northernmost parts of Mexico to help local law enforcement dismantle the strongholds of the cartels from which so many of these illegal imigrants claim to be fleeing.

Also, as far as the job help thing goes, I was being facetious. I have given up on trying to make something of myself in Maine and decided to go to a job corps center in Mass. Someday with the help I will get there I plan to make a positive difference in other peoples' lives. The main point here is that I WILL eventually make it in life, but not in Maine because the current policies here have put up too many roadblocks along the way.

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cheese?

Want some cheese with that?

Roger Moulton's picture

good one Mark

Proof that you've lost the argument....yes it does taste good.

RONALD RIML's picture

Common is as Common Does

Le Page: The "Common" Man

showing a lack of taste and refinement; vulgar.

synonyms: uncouth, vulgar, coarse, rough, boorish, unladylike, ungentlemanly, ill-bred, uncivilized, unrefined, unsophisticated; lowly, low-born, low-class, inferior, proletarian, plebeian, low-ranking

"they are far too common"

Roger Moulton's picture

Another old english woman

Who's problem is that he thinks he's better than everyone else, but plays democrat so nobody thinks he's racist or hates the poor or women. The vaseline joke is far less offensive in my eyes than painting a party as racist minority hating white men that probably beat their wives and that's how the democrats have painted the republicans. Again I dislike both parties but the democrats are an absolute joke and the biggest hypocrisy going.

FRANK EARLEY's picture

Roger I'm sorry, but.....

I've been reading your posts, and as far as I can tell, the only thing you've gotten right so far is your "painting" of the Republican Party, you nailed it........................

RONALD RIML's picture

Joke? Democrat favor-ability 50% higher than Republicans

Looks like the 'Jokes' on you, Roger.

Republican approval rating falls to lowest point in Gallup poll history

"Republicans seem to be playing “how low can you go.” Just 28 percent of Americans have a favorable impression of the GOP, according to the latest monthly Gallup tracking poll. The number ” is the lowest favorable rating measured for either party since Gallup began asking this question in 1992,” the polling company stated.

The number is 10 points lower than the party scored in the same poll in September.

Democrats, meanwhile, got a favorable rating from only 43 percent of respondents, down four points from last month."

Roger Moulton's picture

again with the ratings english bitch

Listen ratings don't mean anything to me. I think a majority of our country is brainwashed if they even care at all.

RONALD RIML's picture

So you've got your head in the sand....

A Tea-Bagger/Sand-Bagger

What a way to live!!!!!

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

True Face of Tbagger LePage

To be fair to the Governor, it's clear he has some serious issues surrounding his past. Serious personal issues. Issues which are properly worked out with a therapist, not in the political and disaster relief arena. The state of Maine does not need a strictly authoritarian, tough-love, borderline-abusive pater familias to govern by "teaching us a lesson". Frankly, half the time I hear him speak he sounds like what he'd really rather be doing is beating our bare behinds with an automobile antenna. That, it seems, is what he thinks Maine needs.

At the end of the day, his shameful performance in Lewiston demonstrates that the Governor is completely and utterly devoid of compassion and incapable of the normal and reasonable response to what amounts to a disaster. He may not care too much for those homeless residents but he is very concerned that the 12 year old boys under questioning for the arson have the book thrown at them as adults.

LePage's case is a sad one and simply another illustration of the moral bankruptcy of the GOP, made all the more pathetic by his traumatic background. It is self-loathing playing out on the political stage and in my opinion it's scandalous. Even sadder, there is a possibility that LePage could be re-elected next Fall given some of the peculiarities of Maine election politics which are beyond the scope of this diary.

This is the face of the Tea Party, ladies and gentlemen. Governors who respond to 200 people burned out of their dwellings by telling them "I never liked you anyway".

just a quick look at this Maine Public Broadcasting Network news page gives a quick overview of his priorities which include moving public money to private schools, the intimidation of state labor officials which has resulted in a Federal investigation, and a host of other things.

If anyone has any issues,

If anyone has any issues, Jerry it's you with your mental mind disorder.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Dennis you are irrelevant, similarly

Like the turd-going down the bowl....coming from you, the cognitive bias unbalanced person that you truly are....

YAWN!

DOUBLE YAWN!!!!

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Keep it wide open, long time...

Those flies just love to nest where they smell the fragrance of your BS coming out your mouth....

Tripple YAWN!!!

Tripple YAWN!!!

RONALD RIML's picture

Easy to diagnose.....

The majority of disorders associated with yawning are those of the central nervous system, including epilepsy, encephalitis, brain tumors, multiple sclerosis and progressive supranuclear palsy.

Claudette Therriault's picture

Mr. Remi

I believe that your comments are the only sane ones here. The arguments presented on this page remind me of Congress...name-calling, etc. Hey bloggers, let's try to play nice here.

RONALD RIML's picture

Thanks much, Claudette.....

Fact is, I used to be a Republican. Then I discovered I had a heart, as well as a brain......

I don't recognize this new 'Brand' of GOP'ers......

Fact is I used to be a

Fact is I used to be a Democrat, then I grew up.
Making people dependent on government is heartless.

RONALD RIML's picture

You've 'Grown Up?'

Not according to your 'Profile,' Dennis. You're still a 'Nobody' - No accomplishments - No nothing. And it shows.

Married to the same woman for

Married to the same woman for 37 years, raised three daughters all married with 5 grand kids. Been working straight since I was 16 years for 42 years, never depending on the government for one dime. I'm very proud of my accomplishments.

Claudette Therriault's picture

Accomlishments

And you base your success in life as "never depending on the government for one dime"? Wow! That's sad.

Evidently Claudette you

Evidently Claudette you didn't read the first part about being married to one woman for 37 years, and working steady since I was 16 yrs old.. I realize liberal a few liberals achieve that goal, but the facts are conservatives who have higher standards when it comes to morals are better at that and are a less burden on society. More people in America for the first time ever are receiving government assistance than are working. Obamas transformation of America is working quite well for those like you and jerry

Claudette Therriault's picture

If we are comparing live achievements.....

Had my husband not passed away two years ago, we would have celebrated our 45th wedding anniversary, with our 3 children and our 6 grandchildren and I was barely 17 when I graduated from high school and except for taking time off to have children, I worked my entire life. I managed to get an Associate's Degree while working full time. Yes, I'm proud of this and my family means the world to me, but it's not what defines me.

What defines me is my love for my fellow man, my morals and my beliefs and the fact that I've spent the past 25 years helping people in need.

Good for you Claudette!

Good for you Claudette! Great job!

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

This coming

from sparky who seems to send off his post in doubles all the time....Can't do that right either. It was a miracle you were able to spawn any children from the right hole or were you even there?

OK! pea brain

OK! pea brain

Evidently Claudette you

Evidently Claudette you didn't read the first part about being married to one woman for 37 years, and working steady since I was 16 yrs old.. I realize liberal a few liberals achieve that goal, but the facts are conservatives who have higher standards when it comes to morals are better at that and are a less burden on society. More people in America for the first time ever are receiving government assistance than are working. Obamas transformation of America is working quite well for those like you and jerry

RONALD RIML's picture

So tell us, Mr. America - when did you serve our Country????

Once upon a time Military Service was a 'Conservative Value' - then they all forgot about it.

It fell upon liberals such as myself to go to war.

Was you drafted or did you

Was you drafted or did you volunteer? Either way way it is a noble thing to serve in the military, and you derserve deep respect for doing so. I graduated HS in 1973, after watching the Viet Nam war news on tv everynight and the way it was being fought, I did not want any part of that.

RONALD RIML's picture

Why should it matter 'What one wants?' But it did to you.

I joined at 17 in 1964 - got out in '73; four 'Nam deployments, went 'Reserve in '79 - Retired from that in '93. It was a liberal, bearded college professor who talked me into going back. He, too, was in the Reserves.

So you're a 'Conservative' and didn't see fit to join? How ironic. It used to be that the 'Military' was a 'Rite of Passage' for Conservatives.

What is this new brand of Conservatism? Does it all come down to $$$ and not wanting to share any with the Govt or poor folks?

That's not 'Conservatism' - that's plain, old fashioned GREED. Conservatism used to entail love of country and serving it.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

What a chickenshit

I graduated 73 of June and was in boot camp in July....what a lame excuse that you did not want no part of it but thousands died serving and you did not want any part of it....THAT is why you should not be allowed to VOTE.....

I continued my education in college during the service and you just became a user of others lives to live comfortably under your roof while others died and served...you are a waste of skin Dennis...

RONALD RIML's picture

I was on the fast track.....

I graduated June 6th, went to the recruiter a week later, and was in Navy Boot Camp June 26th - '64

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Amazing

I was too on about the same dates and turned 18 in boot the week after indoctrination. Air Force for me, since my dad of 22 years Navy up until '62....had advised me to join the AF since they lived in better dorms and had better food, which we did.

Funny story, I had a very good friend stationed at Hanson, MC Base and would come to our Club and chow hall at Kadena AFB in Okinawa. As teenagers we went to school, partied and hung out. It wasn't until after we were both out of service 8 years later we were at a party back in Maine and telling stories only to find out we both were there at the same time and never knew it or bumped into each other.

RONALD RIML's picture

Vote - Agree, Agree, Agree!!!!

Your still a wet head!

Your still a wet head!

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Higher standards? Man are you firing on all 2 pistons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb62fpsyhC4&feature=player_embedded

Oh really, all of these Republicans are so high moral values in your eyes...WOW....

See Dennis you live in a bubble. That is why you are a follower and a puppet who cannot think outside of your tiny little box....

RONALD RIML's picture

Nor an Education.

Which is obvious.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

He avoided learning and is a follower, puppe of the moronic few,

since his belief of the world only 6000 years old, in contrast to the proven science of the earth being 4.6 billion years old with every kind of fossils and skeletons. Dennis thinks Dino lived in his era of real life and his mindset was watching the Flintstones with narrow minded processing of pernicious beliefs because types like himself wants a cult of opposition from the majority of the US and the world.

Proven Science? Its a hoax,

Proven Science? Its a hoax, just like Al Gores scheme, which by the way has made Al Gore a very rich man.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Polar Ice caps

Nearly gone...just like your mind....

RONALD RIML's picture

And you never served in the Military........

Figures.

Claudette Therriault's picture

I too was a Republican

until I started working in the social services field. I met people in situations and circumstances that were not of their making. Sometimes there was help out there for them and sometimes there wasn't. In the 22 years I worked with the poor ( and still do as a volunteer), I've laid awake many a night because of the people that fell through the cracks. And in this political climate, things are only getting worse.

RONALD RIML's picture

One of my accomplishments in Law Enforcement

was to create a 'Police Social Services Program' and obtain funding for it. Through this we were able to hire a social worker who was able to network many crime victims, etc through the maze of agencies which were best able to provide services for them - this was twenty some + years ago before the necessity for such coordination was recognized.

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I worked on the other side Ronald.

I worked with the criminals, actually the county minimum security folks. The men worked as janitors and helped Selp Help Housing folks build their homes. I took the women to get work clothes at a clothes closet and parlayed a drug store into free makeup. In the morning, they would come in and change into their professional clothing, put on makeup and I would mentor them in computer and office skills. I only had two years of funding but it was well worth it.

Thats good Claudette, you

Thats good Claudette, you should be proud of your acomplishments. I'm not against helping people in need. I'm against waste, fraud and abuse of tax payers money. It was revealed the other day that 30% of the money given back to tax payers thru the earned income credit is thru fraud, and the IRS can't fix it. I've seen no sincere attempt by Obama to fix any of the waste and abuse of tax payers money., in fact he's adding to it. America can not sustain the path its on ,and I blame both Repubs and Dems.

RONALD RIML's picture

Can you see Galapagos Turtles from Norway????

Damn! They mustn't exist either!!!!


Dennis ignores - or is ignorant of: Obama administration steps up efforts to curb fraud and waste


"Since the launch of the Campaign to Cut Waste two years ago, the Obama administration has saved more than $20 billion in misspent dollars and continues to crack down on waste, fraud and abuse, administration officials said.

Officials from the departments of Health and Human Services, Treasury and Justice hosted Dec. 13 a conference call with reporters to discuss progress and new initiatives in the Campaign to Cut Waste. It was in November 2009 that President Barack Obama signed an executive order that detailed steps to eliminate government waste and directed federal agencies to prevent $50 billion in improper payments by the end of 2012. The executive order also set goals to cut Medicare fee-for-service errors in half, and recapture $2 billion in overpayments to contractors.

Since the issuing of the executive order, agencies have avoided making improper payments, and cuts in payment errors in Medicare, Medicaid, Pell Grants and food stamps have also helped fuel the savings.

But the administration is looking for more ways to cut waste."


Keep reading in the link I provided - or are you so blinded by hate and partisanship that you don't wish to see what has been done?

The trouble is he's spending

The trouble is he's spending million more times faster than he's cutting it. If he's so thrifty why is our national debt headed towards $20 Trillion from around $11 Trillion when he was sworn in? You've got to do the math Rimi, and stop using Obama pie charts. Just imagine how much higher the national debt might be, if the GOP hadn't won the Congress back in 2010?

RONALD RIML's picture

I've done the 'Math' - You don't remember any of these issues??

Bush's Unfunded Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

Reagan, Bush I, Bush II Unfunded Tax Cuts

Reagan's Unfunded rearming of the Military

What is there about history that you fail to recognize??


JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Bazinga

That is Dennis in one word, Worthless,/b>, to society...Lives off of hate and ignorance with ear plugs in and blinders on....

Its quite evident your the

Its quite evident your the King when it comes to spewing hate.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

It is....

YOU ARE or you're.......not your....learn to spell....and use proper grammar....

I may not be a great speller,

I may not be a great speller, but I've got something you don't have. Common sense!

RONALD RIML's picture

'Common Sense?' Is that 'Tea Party' for

Ignorance and Cowardice????

The Tea Party has common

The Tea Party has common sense, I agree with you on that Rimi

RONALD RIML's picture

You don't even realize when you've been 'Parroted'

Incredible. And who's "Rimi?" Did you never learn to read????

sorry riml

sorry riml

sorry riml

sorry riml

RONALD RIML's picture

Apology accepted

Apology accepted

Kyle Wilson's picture

a reasonable reason to be biased

I do agree that too much of the coverage of Gov. Lepage has centered around his offensive comments. At the same time I feel that he is a bit too brash. Personally no matter how I felt about any given situation, I would censor myself and take the high road. Lepage is the type of person whom (if he were a personal friend) I may hang out with in private but I would avoid attending public places with for fear that he would embarass me.

Despite the concentration of offensive remarks, there has been some coverage of more substantial issues regarding his governorship. Of these issues, the ones that have hit home most for me have been related to healthcare. I am a type-1 diabetic who has been without insurance for nearly a year-and-a-half due to the governor's policies. This has directly affected my ability to be a healthy, productive taxpayer. Additionally, I have recently learned that as of January, my terminally ill mother will lose her Mainecare as well due to the same policies.

I understand that the state of Maine needs to address the budget shortfalls that we have been plagued by for years. Nobody likes to lose in politics but nobody should ever win either. Compromise is a virtue that should be shared by all lawmakers. I implore the governor to do a bit less talking (resulting in fewer lewd comments) and a bit more listening.

Roger Moulton's picture

Censoring your comments is not the high road

I just reread that and saw the part about the high road. Censoring your comments isn't taking the high road, it's being a coward that's afraid to face the music after saying what you really meant. Governor Lepage isn't afraid to face the music which is great because the pansie-crats and the freeby seekers of the state are not going to stop singing until the state is bankrupt and Lepage laughs and says I told you so.

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seriously?

"Governor Lepage isn't afraid to face the music" Please, by all means, explain the need for his spokesperson to come out and clean up his verbal messes every time he opens his mouth. Hiding behind your spokesperson is avoiding facing the music.

Roger Moulton's picture

Okay I will explain

He does that because if he came out, no doubt a bunch of tree hugging, give away the state of Mainers would piss him off enough where he said worse, and all of you pansies would melt right on site because you couldn't handle hearing those terribly awful words you've heard thousands of times from others that you still love and respect. Mark Wrenn-hates Lepage for the way he talks yet says more rude and cruel things behind closed doors. Lepage has the balls to say it where people can hear it, sorry you don't.

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behavior

Typical LePage/bully behavior. He runs his mouth, but hides when it comes time to answer for it. Takes a big pair to hide like that!

Roger Moulton's picture

again he hides

only to prevent worse damage to your oh so soft mental state.

Roger Moulton's picture

Why censor it?

Why should we(anybody) censor their comments? That is incredibly lame bs, if you have a thought state it, don't change it to make it sound like you don't really mean what you do. You don't get your point accross nearly as well by censoring the way you say it. His comments are brash and crude but they get to the point and leave a mark on the receiver of such comments. Censorship needs to stop, this is why America has become so darn sensitive and it's no longer okay to speak the truth. I know plenty of people with type 1 diabetes who have their own health insurance provided by their employer...sorry you didn't take the same path as them.

Jason Theriault's picture

No, don't censor, but

No, don't censor, but don't expect me to vote for you, work with you or even like you if you show no respect towards me. When you say that a democratic leader's policies are akin to forcefully sodomizing the public, then you can't expect them to then treat you with any sort of respect either.

Bob White's picture

"akin to forcefully sodomizing the public"

I don't think he ever said that

Kyle Wilson's picture

that was a reference to the

that was a reference to the vaseline comment

Bob White's picture

Yes it may have been but the

Yes it may have been but the Governor did not say it they way that Jason was implying he had said it. There is a difference. one way or another maybe more offensive.

Jason Theriault's picture

Let me ask you

Let me ask how is this not a reference to forcefully sodomizing the public:
"claims to be for the people, but he's the first one to give it to the people without providing Vaseline."

Please, if this isn't a reference to forcefully sodomizing the public, tell me where I'm wrong? What activity do you give something to people using vaseline that I'm missing?

Bob White's picture

My objection was not to

My objection was not to whether he said the comment and what it referenced but the way you quoted his comment. The way you say something makes a difference, it may make the comment more abrasive for example if someone was to say to you " you resemble the back end of a horse" or they say it to you like this" your a horse's ass" both mean the same however the later is a bit more abrasive. If my kids were to hear that you resemble the back end of a horse they are more likely not to think as much about the comment however if they heard it said that your a horse's ass well then maybe that would get there attention. I hope that clears it up.

Jason Theriault's picture

I said what he inferred,

I said what he inferred, unless you think he was inferring some other activity that requires one to use Vaseline to give it to someone.

Roger Moulton's picture

the proof is in the pudding though

Look we were BILLIONS of dollars in debt which was caused by a 40 year democrat run her in Maine. The "put it to us" by all sense of that old saying and those sayings are ones your grandfather probably used at the dinner table and you nearly pissed your pants laughing, you are nothing but a whine ass little pansi Jason, you complain about the republicans constantly yet you have no plan better than there's THAT WILL ACTUALLY WORK! Your boys had 40 years and this is where they put us. So tell me again why we should vote democratic?

Jason Theriault's picture

=)

Oh, I'm a "pansi"? Listen, at least if you're going to resort to kiddie insults, spell them right

And show some creativity. A "pansi"? I know it hard to stretch out that muscle in your head, but since you have never met me, calling me a pansy on the internet is pretty weak.

See, here's how you bring your "A" game:
Stultus es. Ratio tua est languida. Placere prohibere loquentes.

Roger Moulton's picture

Yes you are a pansy.

You are a pansie because someones words and point of view offend you. Easily offended people are pansies and my a game would get my comments deleted, just because you know how to use google translate you are smart? Latin is a language that is not used in our everyday practical life. Your "A" game is weak and pathetic, on top of the fact that you tried to disguise it rather than just putting in English...again back to pansy......you are one for sure and you continue to prove it.

Jason Theriault's picture

Wow

First off, I never said I was offended. I said LePage shows a lack of respect for the other side. I didn't say I was offended, just that you can't expect someone to vote for you or even listen to you if you show them no respect.

Now, as for my A game, it shows a bit more creativity than just calling someone a pansy.

My bigger point is that if you want anyone to take you seriously, you need to act like an adult and try and use logic and fact to make your point. Calling people a pansy shows that your are ill equipped for a serious discussion.

Much like LePage

Roger Moulton's picture

When the ignorant resort to name calling

Like bully and moron and such it just proves that he is doing a good job. If he was doing poorly you would be able to knock his policies or the things that he has done, however you can't knock his policies and make sense. The one's that do knock him for his policies want us to do things the way we were....which HELLO WASN'T WORKING!!!!!! And if you folks wanna remember him for some crude comments he said and not acknowledge the good he has done then you deserve another 40 years of democrats driving your state into debts we can't afford. I am no republican either, they are the lesser of two evils(but voting for them is still voting for two evils) however I am a Lepage supporter. The man speaks whats on his mind and says what other think but don't dare to say due to all the over sensitive pansies in this world who have for some reason forgotten about freedom of speech and continuously say "you can't say things like that". Well yes you can, yes I can, and yes he can the first amendment gives us that right. You know what the one and only problem with governor Lepage is? You are all too darn sensitive that's what wrong with ....... oh wait that's what's wrong with you not him. He's an honest politician-I know if it's too good to be true...but really he's honest....was baldouche-i honest? Anus King? Nope. Even if you don't agree with him you have to admit he's honest and doesn't waiver on what he knows needs to be done regardless of lame polls. I LOVE PAUL LEPAGE. I wish he was our president, hell I'd even take him as a dictator, since things would actually get done and our country would actually improve.

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kettle

"When the ignorant resort to name calling" Then calls everybody pansies. Kettle? Meet pot.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Here are Eight reason why LePage will be no longer a Gov

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/06/21/paul-lepages-e...

These eight videos will be aired and it is only coming straight from the horses ass when he speaks....

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Because there are far more insane folks that think things were

FINE? You referring to your insane folk heroes like Bachmann, Beck, Gohmer, Coulter, Hannity, King, Savage, Robinson, Dobson, Malkin, Rep. Fox, Limbaugh and dozens more of your favorites that constantly have stupid, insane, ignorant comments coming out of their mouths also. It must run in the Repub/Tbagger family...

Please provide any of the others of the opposite party that say totally insane, stupid, off the wall, ignorant comments such as those Tbaggers I have listed above...

{Crickets}

Bachmann, Beck, Gohmer,

Bachmann, Beck, Gohmer, Coulter, Hannity, King, Savage, Robinson, Dobson, Malkin, Rep. Fox, Limbaugh are all patriots as far as I'm concerned. Anyone of them are superior to the idiot in the Whitehouse.

RONALD RIML's picture

How many of those 'Patriots' served in the Armed Forces????

How many of them signed that check that Uncle Sam could cash with their lives???

C'mon Dennis -pony up with an answer. This retired 'Military' wants to know.....

Ask the same about Obama , he

Ask the same about Obama , he never served either.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Again your stupidity is glowing

He has and is serving his COUNTRY as the Commander in Chief....what have you ever done for your country Dennis....except put a lot of mouths on the earth to feed and hopefully not to spread your senile demented seed........

Hes never had a real job. He

Hes never had a real job. He went from pot smoking radical who hung out with and was taught by socialist professors. He then went on to community organizer hanging out at Rev Wrights hate filled church. Then his smooth talking got him a job as state senator to US Senator to Presisdent,never having a real job. His in expirience is now showing, as Amercia is in its worst shape ever. He added more debt than all previous president before him. He is a looser, but America is the biggest looser.

RONALD RIML's picture

Do you know where the debt came from, Dennis??

Of course not. You can't even spell correctly.....

Seems much of the debt on Obama's Watch came from Bush's wars, recession, and tax cuts. Get your head out of your 4th point of contact (and Faux Noise)


JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

I've seen people like you, but I had to pay admission!

You are proof that evolution CAN go in reverse.

I believe in creation. But

I believe in creation. But you may have evolved from a baboon

RONALD RIML's picture

Creationism????

With genes and chromosomes - God gets a pass for creating idiots such as yourself.

RONALD RIML's picture

He's Commander-in-Chief.......

Had you served, you would have known that. Any foreigner studying for citizenship must learn that.

And you didn't know???

Roger Moulton's picture

Okay

If you read what I post I am not for Limbaugh or Hannity and honestly don't even know the other names you posted. Dems suck, republicans suck but our Governor is an honest man trying to do what's best for our state and I don't care what he says I care about actions and the results of those actions. So because your democrats talk like a bunch of english women at a tea party you think that makes their policies good? I don't vote based on party, I vote based on actions. Could you please name some of the actions that led you to vote for Obama in his first term? You don't her about him saying things as a Senator because he didn't do or say anything, he was a wallflower.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Easy

McCain and the dumb religious witch of Alaska made it so damn easy....

I think you mean Hillary the

I think you mean Hillary the wicked witch from New York.

Roger Moulton's picture

Here you go again

"the dumb religious witch of Alaska" If I was a democrat I'd try to make sure that was posted in every news paper in the country. I would also tell everyone that I clearly see that as stating you think women are dumb and hate religious people and Alaska. Yup, that is exactly what the democrats would do. Jerry=Hypocrite of the year. Thanks Jerry you continue to prove my points.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

the dumb religious witch of Alaska...not current news chump

BTW it is posted all over the country on web blogs newspapers, you should crawl out from under your rock once in a while and look around...

Roger Moulton's picture

So you've proved that you get your news from

web blog newspapers and are incredibly unoriginal and regurgitate this crap you read. And my point was obviously missed that if a republican made that statement you did about a democrat it would be the worst thing ever. I'm not angry that you said it. It's obviously just a comical exaggeration intended to get laughs while making your point about her. It's okay you have the right to say that, my point was-Why don't republicans have the right to talk like that? Or all party haters like me?

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Only proof

is what you think in your head pal.....I said Palin, one, with her whacked out religious, prophecies like Bachmann....

The women is a whack job and if you are too stupid to see thru it, then you need some serious help on recognizing the caliber of the type of person she really is....you must have females that you cower to in your domain...

Roger Moulton's picture

Never said I liked her

I actually agree that she is a nut job and it was a huge mistake by the GOP to insult this nation by offering her as VP. And my wife and I actually work together I don't cower to her and she doesn't cower to me, there are issues that we both feel strongly about and we give and compromise but we both say things to each other that are worse than anything Lepage has said to get our point across. I don't hate her for it and she doesn't hate me(too bad lol) for it. You see we understand that when people are passionate about something they get emotional and may say things aggressively. Is it so terrible that our Governor is so passionate about fixing this state that he lets his emotions get the best of him when opposed?

Sara Palin was the most

Sara Palin was the most popular Governer in America until she was picked to run for Vice President. The Democratic run main stream media run her into the ground with lies. Even sensible thinking people like you Roger were influenced by the power of the lame stream media.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Man you like to lie

Sara Palin was the most popular Governor in America until she was picked to run????

She was a nobody, nothing, only ones that knew about her was Alaska and some snot nose Repubs that was looking for a skirt for mcCain.
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Secondly, the stupid beatch put the words into her own speeches and the crap that came out, she owned and meant with all of the craziness within, not the media putting words into her big loud mouth.

Somebody ought to remove her tongue, the country and her husband would be grateful....

But only a guy like yourself, would want to have her in your arms for comfort that you never got....

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Ponder this;

Did it ever occur to you with a family of 12 or more, I think 13, that even one of his own brothers caught up in the Lewiston fires was never quoted or never photographed with his illustrious Bro?

Have you ever read or seen anything from at least one of his siblings that has shared anything in defense of this buffoon and his behavior?

Had it not of been for Olympia Snows, ex- husband, that Paul would of not passed his SAT's in lauguage. Why do you think he is all about being for the GOP side of things and not about the working class of Maine, when he had all of his living off the dole of the state and others.

Have you seen anything from Ed or his two sons that shared their home with the renown bully of Lewiston, in any sort of appreciation of knowing him?

The prosecution rest....

Roger Moulton's picture

rest all you like

But other people not liking him has nothing to do with my opinion of him and there lies one of your problems. You just can't make up your own mind(example Palin comment). All you can do is follow the democratic party and regurgitate their bs, you have no mind of your own. Pathetic really.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Not a comment but

Just a plain old cop out and typical backlash response with nothing, but you swallow the bully tactics and demeanor of this kind of person and like it...

follow the democratic party?????, again your BS response...since I have voted for Repubs and Independents also, when I know they vote or represent my interest in my career field........

So you assume!!~! .... that is where your short comings lie.....

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Bad Business in every outlook for anything productive

"Is it so terrible that our Governor is so passionate about fixing this state that he lets his emotions get the best of him when opposed?"

YES, it is when you can't control your mouth, behavior or your temper. Purely simple it is poor leadership skills and bad for business in any form....if he was working for a company, his PR would of gotten him fired a long time ago....that is why he runs for jobs where is is primarily his own boss, other than Mardens...where even there he saw the writing on the wall and needed to clear out.....

I know this guy, of him, what he was, what he DID, and how he lived under Ed and Paulines roof with her two other real sons, in which I worked with one...Whereas my mom and Pauline were life long friends up to Pauline's death. Don't blow smoke up mine when I am really aware of the caliber of this guy and had you known him, you too would not of liked him so very much....

Roger Moulton's picture

I would like him

I would like him, he speaks the truth. The truth doesn't offend me regardless of the manor it is displayed in. And so you worked with his "brother" I guess that was jealous that somebody without his blood was getting daddy's attention. And I don't really care if I would have liked him as a person or if he burned crosses as a kid, he gets the job done. He does what nobody else dares to do. The only thing that I care about at this point is what he does with his time in office and not the way he spoke but his accomplishments and/or lack there of.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Not his brother, duh the family that took him in....what a lame

observation............"And so you worked with his "brother" I guess that was jealous that somebody without his blood was getting daddy's attention."

So in your conclusion, if the guy was a mass murderer or child molester or a thief, it is fine in you r world as long as he does a good job and that you approve of? Got it!

He does what nobody else dares to do. ?????? The knee jerk reactions and comments from this clown is not what NORMAL people, professionals who dares to do, it is pure stupidity of those actions....that prevents others of any intelligence to curb their enthusiasm....

Roger Moulton's picture

At this point I think its obvious

that he wasn't a mass murderer or a child molestor, but had he been a thief for years but not stolen a thing in his term as governor, I'm okay with that. I know it wasn't his "brother" it was the family that took him in but that would have been a lot of typing. hence the " marks. Most kids that had mommy and daddy take in someone else would have some jealousy and resentment issues but that doesn't mean he's a bad governor. I hope you punched you in the mouth once or twice when you were kids honestly.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Explains why

He did his drinking and living at the strip joint"Jolly at the Holly" was his prominent domain of pleasure....

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Ah the typical violent

Bagger..comes out..........Nope Pauly never touched me, luckily for him or his family that boarded him...actually I do know a few that did lay that POS down since he deserved every bit of it...his presence at the Blue Goose and at The Cage was not welcomed....

Roger Moulton's picture

So the guy likes beer and boobs

And that should make me dislike him? I don't care if he has a foot fetish. Really who would want to go to the bluegoose and the cage? Wasn't the blue goose a gay bar? Explains why the stip joint upsets you.......

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Only you would know that, they had your sign on the wall

Boys Room......Wasn't the blue goose a gay bar? You would only know that one......

I only went there but actually once in all the years I lived there...I didn't like small crowed places...had many other acquaintances that did and one of my best friends Uncle bar tended there too....

I bar-tended and patron at The Cage or spent time at Lou's and Pete's Place....

Roger Moulton's picture

typo

*(voting for them is still voting for evil)*

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Karen described Pauly to a T...

Karen Heck, who succeeded LePage as mayor of Waterville, represents those disgusted with him. She said the governor’s well-publicized comments show a lack of self-control that damages the state’s image to potential new businesses — his supposed calling card.

LePage loves to step on his tongue and himself and should've used the duct tape years ago to secure his mouth. It doesn't matter what he or what others here think he has done, people remember people by what they say, how they act and who they piss off....LePage is history and will be replaced.....

Jason Theriault's picture

HAHAHAHA

The Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting is a nonpartisan

Listen Sun Journal,

you want to post political pieces, thats fine. But don't try and pass them off as "objective"

Roger Moulton's picture

Really Jason?

Where were you when the Sun Journal was posting opinion articles crapping on Lepage and stating it was the opinion of the editors and owners. You are a typical democrat, you get mad at anyone that doesn't agree with you. I'm no democrat or republican, I think they're both terrible. I don't want you to think like me Jason but I want you to think for yourself and not think the way the democratic party, republican party, or the media says. Do you really think that democrats have done a good job in the last 40 years to get us where we are? Can you really say that the democrats should continue down the path they were on? If you honestly believe that I'm surprised you have the brain cells to type on a keyboard. The definition of insanity-repeating the same steps and expecting different results.....example democrats in Maine.

Jason Theriault's picture

Funny thing

See, when they posted those opinions, they posted them in THE OPINION SECTION.
See how that works?

They posted this "story" on the front page and at the bottom with the line "The Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting is a nonpartisan..." But if you go to their website, you can see that they clearly push the Conservative agenda. I'm not saying there is ANYTHING wrong with that. I just like it when a group wear their agenda on their sleeve.

And, no, I think the path we have taken in the past 40 years is not the correct one in Maine. But I am discouraged with the GOP in that instead of taking the gains in 2010 and trying to make fundamental changes on both the federal and state level, they went stupid and made the past 4 years a temper tantrum.

If the GOP compromised, they could have made real changes to the state and federal budgets. But instead, they now how the lowest approval rating in 50 years.

Roger Moulton's picture

Thats my point

F approval ratings. What the heck do approval rating have to do with the results of actions? NOTHING!!!! And by if the GOP compromised you mean did what the democrats wanted...which again Mr. Intelligent WASN'T WORKING AND HASN'T IN 40 YEARS. Are you getting any of this?????? Can I put it in a different way for you to understand? And I'm with ya F the GOP except for this honest, transparent, kick ass and take names governor that we have right now.

Jason Theriault's picture

That's funny.

You think LePage is kick ass? You realize, he isn't getting anything else done in his term, and that most of what he has gotten done in his first term will be undone in less than 3 years?

If that's kicking ass, well then get ready because LePage is gonna kick ass in the 2014 election.
And kick ass on the lecture circuit soon afterwards.

Not everything that LePage is for I'm against and not everything the Democrats are for I'm for.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Interesting

Can you provide any and all of the so-called accomplishments of LePage?????

Waiting.....

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

You sniffed to many burner fumes

"kick ass and take names governor that we have right now." ????

You mean the one that storms out of meetings like a child who lost his toys in the sandbox. The guy who has to have duct tape on his desk to keep his mouth shut...Really Roger....stay away from the fumes......

Roger Moulton's picture

again don't care

what he says or if he storms out of meetings. If you knew what was right for something you were passionate about but had a group making it impossible you would get angry too.

RAYMOND FRECHETTE's picture

It is refreshing to read the

It is refreshing to read the positive comments on Governor Lepage. He may be reported as crude and a bully by the press and vocal political opponents who are doing a very effective public relation smear of the Governor, but he is liked by the common person who can appreciate his honest attempts to revitalize and improve Maine. I have never felt it was an honor for the State to be regarded as one of the highest taxed State in the country, to be the least business friendly with resulting low wage jobs, or to be a leader in generous welfare benefits.

Claudette Therriault's picture

What is wrong with you people?

Can you not see what a bully and an idiot this man is? Thousands in Maine will not be covered by the Health Care Act subsidies due to his refusal of expanded MaineCare?

Not to mention his comment about 47% not working in Maine... Yes, that sure brings businesses to Maine....NOT! Of course, he did not mention that Maine is one of the oldest states in the nation. Baby Boomers are now retiring adding to the percents of "not returning" retired folks.

Gerry Thompson's picture

They

will be covered, they need to use the Federal site.

Claudette Therriault's picture

Uh, no they won't

If you go to the federal site and you look up the amount of subsidy. You will get a message saying something like this. "Because your state did not accept expanded Medicaid, you do not qualify for a subsidy." These are hard working single people who have the lowest wages.

Gerry Thompson's picture

really?

I know some who have.

Claudette Therriault's picture

Medicaid

These are very low income folks who would have qualified for expanded MaineCare. Residents of other states who have refused expanded Medicaid have the same problems.

 's picture

I look for results

And Lepage has delivered in spite of non stop, withering bashing by the Democrat politicians and the biased Maine newspaper community. By enforcing the requirement that TANF recipients actually look for work. By reducing the projected payments Maine taxpayers will have to make to the public employee pension fund by $1.7 billion. By reducing state income taxes to zero for 70,000 lower paid workers.

If you liked a Maine with high taxes, gruesome energy policy, heavy state debt, runaway welfare drawing an influx of tens of thousands looking for the freebies, you'd like to bash Paul Lepage and suckle on the public teat. It is a happy place for those who want to stay in bed in the morning.

Roger Moulton's picture

^a Man with a brain^

Thank god somebody in this state has a brain and can look at the facts!!!! Thank you Bob Stone and the others who have commented in favor of continuing to improve our state while others want to ruin it.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Somebody with a Brain

Doesn't say the stupid crap that LePage seems to expound out his lips, CONSTANTLY....He was a bully in HS, in my longtime friends home that raised him and in Lewiston and still is...

Bob White's picture

Oh Jerry

Put your big girl panties on and get over it. Its been probably 50 years I'm guessing. Your comments on here I could see you would need a attitude adjustment.

 's picture

Just who are these long time friends who raised Lepage?

I know of one family that sheltered him. They are ardent supporters. As a matter of fact, I held the first major fund raiser for Paul in L-A and they were there early and stayed late. I don't know where this constant bullying talk is coming from.

Also, one of my friends was in his home room in high school. I asked him about Paul. This friend is a well-respected Lewiston business man and has no reason to fib. He says he was a quiet guy, very pleasant, and one that kind of blended in.

Also, the late Peter Snowe took Paul in under his mentorship and helped him out. Snowe was another well-respected business person who was elected to the legislature at a young age.

Your constant character assassination doesn't add up. Is that how you run the union in Minnesota? You really should stop it.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

I know of one family that sheltered him.

Provide the first initial of the last name and I will see if you mean the same family....because he was no quiet guy....

lame. Is that how you run the union in MN....your mind juices have runneth over.....

Mark Elliott's picture

Have you heard the crap

Have you heard the crap coming out of Joe Biden's lately??

I think the reason the he's

I think the reason the he's been under constant attack by the press is because he is a effective governor. He's just not being effective in the areas they like.

RONALD RIML's picture

That's not 'thinking' - Dennis

That's simply displaying your bias against the Press.

Tha's right I admit it, I'm very biased against our President!

Tha's right I admit it, I'm very biased against our President! And everyday more of America is becoming biased against our President.

RONALD RIML's picture

Knowing bias is based upon ignorance; there's no surprise here..

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Too funny you living in the world of denial

Sixty-four percent of Americans view the Republican Party unfavorably, and 56 percent view the tea party unfavorably. Both are all-time highs in CNN's polling, although in each case, it's only a 2-point increase from a survey taken Sept. 27 through 29.

Prominent Republicans have also taken a hit.

House Speaker John Boehner's (Ohio) unfavorable rating is at 55 percent, up from 48 percent just before the shutdown, while Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's (Ky.) unfavorables rose to 42 percent from 39 percent before the shutdown. Members of their own party are also increasingly rating them negatively, according to polling. Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas), one of the most vocal supporters of the shutdown, saw his unfavorable rating climb 6 points to 42 percent.

At this time in the game of politics the POTUS, is way from any matter, to your anti-matter of the Repbub/Tbagger party.....

Bob White's picture

Jerry

What's the Presidents approval rating? You seem to have forgotten that one. I think its in the mid 30's.

RONALD RIML's picture

Not too bad for a Black Muslim born in Kenya who eats Babies

and has been the sole Focus of the Reich Wing Ravers' Attack Squad for Six Years.

What's Whacko Bird Cruz' Excuse????

Americans are becoming sick

Americans are becoming sick of all those biased rigged polls. I'll say one thing, those libs can whip out a poll really quick.

RONALD RIML's picture

Almost as fast as the Reich-Wingers whip out Lies.......

But Rushburger and Faux & Fiends have the 'Assembly Line' methodology down pat.

Americans are becoming sick

Americans are becoming sick of all those biased rigged polls. I'll say one thing, those libs can whip out a poll really quick.

JERRY ARIPEZ's picture

Only rigged pole

is the one you swing from, and take up the.... Dennis...You are so biased Dennis and lie so very much, your nose must bleeds like Nile's Crane on Fraser...

If the polls would be swinging in your direction in any manner, you would be posting it like you did about Pres. Obama with his ratings dropping just weeks ago....Those polls mean something to you then from your so called or coined by the wicked beatch of the West, Palin, Lame stream media, is only factual when it works to your advantage...

Typical, and predictable you are for a tinyT bagger

OH Yeah, and they becoming

OH Yeah, and they becoming less trusting of the lame stream media too!

Gerry Thompson's picture

Headlines

are rarely the true story at all. They are attention grabbers. Unfortunately that is all many readers read at all and the media knows this. They use the headlines to get ratings. The people who are screaming BULLY the loudest are the ones not getting their way .... just like spoiled children used to getting everything they want no matter the cost to their parents.

Mark Elliott's picture

Exactly...spoiled for nearly

Exactly...spoiled for nearly 40 years.

Mark Elliott's picture

Nobody likes to abandon their

Nobody likes to abandon their principles. Governor LePage has done an outstanding job and will continue to do more. He sees through the name calling on the playground coming from the left. The same left that lost 40 years of Maine government control the day LePage was elected. Paul LePage still has my support and will for re-election as well!

RONALD RIML's picture

Isn't Governor LePage forbidden to be around 'Playgrounds'

....according to the terms of his Probation?????

Mark Elliott's picture

Is that all you got Riml??

Is that all you got Riml?? Best you can do?? You liberals are running out of witty responses...... If you'd all just speak the truth, you'd always have something of value to say......

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