Madore says marriage is part of broader gay agenda

AUGUSTA — Longtime anti-gay activist Paul Madore on Wednesday warned
Mainers that voting on Election Day to uphold the law allowing same-sex
marriage would further normalize homosexuality. 

Robert F. Bukaty/Associated Press

Robert F. Bukaty/Associated Press

Brian Souchet, of Stand for Marriage Maine, left, listens to a response by Mary Bonauto, of Protect Maine Equality, during a debate on referendum Question 1, the proposal to rescind the Legislature's approval of same-sex marriage Wednesday at the University of Southern Maine in Portland, Maine.

At a news conference at the State House less than a week before the
Nov. 3 election, Madore made his first public appearance on the issue,
flanked by Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth about Homosexuality
and Brian Camenker of MassResistance.

"This is a very serious issue, and if we don't decide correctly what
to do with this, we're apt to go the wrong way; we have been doing that
incrementally," said Madore, who lives in Lewiston.

"There's a very clear case here as to why same-sex marriage is bad for
Maine, because it has the weight and force of the legal system to
indoctrinate society to that which some perceive to be the norm. That
cannot possibly be good for Maine," he said.

Madore's political action committee, the Maine Grassroots Coalition,
has spent about $8,300 on the campaign so far, according to state
campaign finance reports. About $3,200 has gone toward paying himself
and his wife, Susan, for their efforts.

One concern cited by Madore was potential voter fraud, based on the No
on 1 campaign's program bringing out-of-staters to take vacations in
Maine to volunteer for the campaign.

"The practical effects of having this campaign, is not only that
they will come to work, but will they vote? Will they vote? We know
that voter fraud has always been an issue that's very much a part of
campaigns, particularly campaigns that are controversial," Madore said.

Jesse Connolly, campaign manager for the No on 1/Protect Maine Equality group, called the accusation "insulting."

"We certainly have volunteers from out of state, but we hold Maine's
election laws very seriously," he said. "It's unfortunate that the
level of discourse has fallen to this."

Connolly said his group has not been deceptive about anything and is very focused on Election Day.

The Stand for Marriage Maine group, which is leading efforts to
reject the new law, disavowed Madore's news conference and his
speakers, said Scott Fish, spokesman for Stand for Marriage Maine.

Bob Emrich, a leader of the group, said that although Madore is
advocating for the same "Yes on 1" vote his group is, they have chosen
not to endorse his message.

"Paul does his thing, whatever that might be; everybody may be
headed to the same destination, but the way of getting there may be
different," Emrich said.

He said he disassociated his group from LaBarbera, specifically.

"(LaBarbera's) comments are that we, being Stand for Marriage Maine
and myself, that we are cowardly," Emrich said. "So given that that's
his attitude toward the way we're presenting our message, it's hard to
imagine how we could work closely with him."

Madore, who was active in previous campaigns against what he calls
"the homosexual issue," offered his services to the Stand for Marriage
Maine campaign, but like Michael Heath, formerly of the Christian Civic
League, was not assigned a leadership role in the campaign.

"They just felt like there was a different way to do it, so you can't
have a team going in different directions at the same time," Emrich
said of the situation.

The speakers at the news conference sought to reveal what they felt
were hidden agendas behind contributors to the No on 1 campaign.

"What hasn't been reported are the incredibly radical connections and
behaviors and public pronouncements of some of these groups," said
LaBarbera, using the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force as an example.
"The people of Maine are not familiar with the support of the bigoted
gay organizations that have been the sustenance of the No on 1
campaign."

LaBarbera read a description of a course offered by the National Gay
and Lesbian Task Force during a summit held in February as an example
of something Mainers should be aware of.

"This workshop will empower (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and
questioning) youth to increase their emotional and physical safety with
intimate partners, acquaintances and hook-ups. Participants will gain
and practice skills and tools to convey awareness, gain full consent,
assert boundaries and respectively approach someone, recognize abusive
behavior and respond to dangerous situations," he read.

"Essentially, what we are talking about here is an organization so
radical that they are now advocating sexual freedom for young people,"
LaBarbera said.

When asked why he was holding the news conference so close to the
election, Madore said he had trouble raising enough money to bring in
the speakers.

"But there's a very clear message that's reverberating in Lewiston
regarding the threat of indoctrination, the content in the schools and
I believe the vast majority of parents don't want that. They want
fairness for all, but they're not willing to sacrifice their children
for it," he said.

A statement released by the No on 1 campaign said Madore has "been
behind some of the most anti-gay hate speech over the last 20 years" in
Maine. Additionally, MassResistance, Camenker's group, is one of 11
designated anti-gay hate groups listed by the Southern Poverty Law
Center, according to the No on 1 campaign.

rmetzler@sunjournal.com

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ojhuig's picture

True dat, Steve!

True dat, Steve!

melora's picture

Vote YES on #1! Those from

Vote YES on #1! Those from out of state are pushing this agenda on Maine. In fact, those responsible for starting this whole thing were from CA! They are even busing in loads of gay supporters to push this issue on the people of Maine.

People who are in doubt on this issue need to check this link, as it shows the damage that will happen to the state of Maine once gay marriage is ushered in. Just look at what happened to MA. If I lived there, I would move, it has become so corrupt!

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/effects_of_ssm.html

ojhuig's picture

That's baloney. I happen to

That's baloney. I happen to have insider information. The YES on One ads are produced using out-of-state actors, with the voices of other actors using Maine accents, dubbed in over them. Dishonest and From Away!

I and my family and friends are here at home in Maine and nobody is pushing this on us. We believe in marriage equality for ALL couples.

gordonandpepper's picture

The MassResistance website

The MassResistance website and their blog are operated by two people operating on a shoe string budget. MassResistance is written by Brian Camenker and the MassResistance blog is written by Amy Contrada, a woman that spends most of her time trying to hide her identity. These two sites are so full of lies and half truths that the mainstream anti gay marriage websites such the Massachusetts Family Institute don't post a link to these sites. Google even has a warning about the blog before you can enter the site. These two are not nice people.

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Have to make a correction

Have to make a correction there Ray, Americans for Truth does in fact link to and praise massresistance on their site, I will not discuss here the topic at the start of the page as it is not appropriate, but the next article down does say "Can it get any weirder, any more perverse? And then it does. Our good friends over at MassResistance once again have done the hard work of exposing part of the REAL homosexual youth agenda ..." So they are apparently unconcerned with being connected to a group listed in hate crime databases. And apparently approve of their bizarre and harassing tactics, some of which is posting pictures online of minor children without their parents consent.

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Wow Ray, I just spent time

Wow Ray, I just spent time looking at their sick site and reading related articles about their public appearances. Mr Camenker has spent time testifying that Nazi's didn't do anything to gays, and Mrs. Contrada lambasted her own child on the internet (poor kid, to be a lesbian and have that for a mother!). The Southern Poverty Law Center listed massresistance as a hate group.

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You might want to look at

You might want to look at the groups from Cali and Utah that have been pouring money into this state for the yes camp. For example the anti-gay group, America Forever, based in Utah and founded by a brother and sister that immigrated to the US from Mexico sent out faxes to Maine businesses lambasting our Senators in picture and word as satanic witches and included a "kill Obama" video reference. What started this is a law that is in place, not put there by Californians, but rather by our own Governor. There are plenty of us in this state are sick of seeing hate and tired of hearing jokes about throwing gays off of bridges. Again, look up the 350 + Maine lawyers that debunked the lies told by the yes on 1 campaign.

FeloPrergoHok's picture

Google the sources Stacey W.

Google the sources Stacey W. Read of the statistics in established Gay Marriage countries.
You are blind to reality.
Slippery Slope - What is next? Man - Boy love? Studies have already been published with the premise of what's wrong with LOVE between a 13 y.o. boy and a 40 y.o. man if it is consensual? Sound familiar? Yesterday a young child (12 y.o.) asked what is wrong with that very scenario.

Jon Albrecht - you are one sick gay man to compare rape to Christian indoctrination as traumatic. Typical bashing!! Gay men do not want gay marriage according to overwhelming statistics - for example 2/3s of the gay marriages in Vermont are between women although gay men outnumber them. The promiscuity rates among gays are sky high yet your responses are that promiscuity is within all genders. Nonsense - it is much higher among gays. HIV is a gay disease: NO homosexuals = no HIV.

I truly feel sorry for you misled souls - I really do.

ReaganRepublican's picture
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Are you serious? Man-boy

Are you serious? Man-boy love? Im curious, about your concept of right and wrong here? I thought we were talking about adult consentual relationships here.
As for no homosexuals=no hiv can you place this soap box about 2 stories up and jump of it please! This has been inane since the 80's. and if yesterday a 12 year old asked you this wuestion i hope that you were able to respond to that child, and i hope that you keep responding to that child!

melora's picture

The homosexual movement is

The homosexual movement is famous for a group that promotes man/boy love relationships. It is that NAMBLA organization. It is a very perverse organization. It should be outlawed like the KKK. And those who study statistics on homosexual relationships would know they are not healthy nor appropriate for children to be involved (which is what will happen if gay marriage is given recognition). Children should never intentionally be placed in a home without both a father and a mother. All psychology knows this but the politically correct people stifle the words of truth (because it isn't politically correct).

ojhuig's picture

Wrong-o. Studies show that

Wrong-o. Studies show that the vast majority of pedophiles, even men who agress against male children, are heterosexual. NAMBLA is not a gay organization, it is a pedophilia organization. Not the same thing, not even close.

news4u's picture

"Children should never

"Children should never intentionally be placed in a home without both a father and a mother. All psychology knows this but the politically correct people stifle the words of truth (because it isn't politically correct)."

Yeah, let's keep children in a home with both a father and mother. It doesn't matter that dad beats up mom. It doesn't matter that mom is a drug addict and her only love is finding her next fix. Let's keep children in a home with both a father and mother who work 40 plus hours a week and the children become latchkey kids. Let's keep children in a home with both a father and mother where the father sexually abuses his daughter. But all of this is okay because there is both a father and mother living in the home?!?

You stated: "The homosexual movement is famous for a group that promotes man/boy love relationships." The only group that I know that promotes this unlawful relationship is pedophile priests.

Mrs. McG's picture

"Yeah, let's keep children

"Yeah, let's keep children in a home with both a father and mother. It doesn't matter that dad beats up mom. It doesn't matter that mom is a drug addict..."

Can we say "false alternative"? Saying that it is in the best interest of a child to place them in the home where s/he can have a mother and a father is not that same as saying "just so long as the couple is heterosexual."

"The only group that I know that promotes this unlawful relationship is pedophile priests."

You really are filled with vitriol. "Pedophile priests" is not a "group," but you just keep unleashing your hatred for Catholics and the Catholic Church because they disagree with your view. Talk about intolerance.

exoggensani's picture

Doesn't EVERY organization

Doesn't EVERY organization have EQUAL rights? That is what No on1 is saying... Equal rights

ReaganRepublican's picture
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Pedophilia is wrong! NAMBLA

Pedophilia is wrong! NAMBLA is a dispicable organization! My two lesbian friends getting married, is stable, and the child they raise who is a special needs child because both of his parents have meth addictions; seems perfectly reasonable, as for both a mother and a father, single parents need to unite on this one, I have been a single mother to both my son and my daughter; they are both strong, intelligent, and hard working young kiddos. So are you really gonna say that a single mom who managed to get to kids raised to full adulthood, and even shock in college should lose her kids do to the lack of a strong male rolemodel? NAMBLA is i belive what this was about and I do need to say that i had never heard of it before, but went to there website. It has nothing to do with being gay or being married, it has to do with power, same as domestic violence. please take that into consideration, I belive that voting no on 1 is going to be better for maine in the long run.

BIGGITY BUMP's picture

No homosexuals = No HIV?

No homosexuals = No HIV? Where is your study to confirm this? Do you even know the origins of HIV and AIDS or do you think it just magically appeared in San Francisco in the 70's? Saying there would be no HIV if all the homosexuals disappeared is like saying Cirrhosis would go away if we were to get rid of the Super Bowl.

Also, I would think that we as people would know the difference between right and wrong, you know common sense. Common sense tells us that sex with animals is not only wrong its disgusting, same thing with sex with kids, kids consenting to sex with adults is only to gain favor or to get the attention they need in one form they are not getting at home in the proper form. Sex and marriage between consenting adults is an entirely different concept and to even compare the two is just foul.

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OMG your an idiot. I ask

OMG your an idiot. I ask everyone in the yes on 1 camp, do you appreciate the fact that people think you are all like this person?? Do you realize that all these arguments boil down to people hearing just this rhetoric? What's next? Are you going to claim that all gay people are going to dress up in hot pants and boas and drag your kids out of your home and into a parade??? Oh, I have a headache now. Moron.

exoggensani's picture

Next new law that will be in

Next new law that will be in acted is:

You will now have the right to marry your dog because your dog and you truly love one another and it's not a sexual thing...

ReaganRepublican's picture
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Bestiality is totally

Bestiality is totally different then homosexuality. Human love and marraige differ as (most) we have learned to walk in an upright position witout dragging our knuckles on the ground. These sorts of scare tactics iangol are not only not going to work but they are also insulting!

exoggensani's picture

boy I guess your a bigot

boy I guess your a bigot because this is an EQUAL RIGHTS ISSUE? Is that what the NO on 1 campaign is saying.. equal rights. Because everyone that loves someone should be allowed to get married. Most people who have dogs feel they are FAMILY members and they love them... no difference then homosexuals from wanting to marry..

ReaganRepublican's picture
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Are you kidding me? Ill

Are you kidding me? Ill tell you what you get hundreds of people to sign a petition stating that you can marry your dog ...your beloved family pet....something you paid cash for(prostitution much?) and i will weigh the options a vote with my concience. Until then does this argument really exist?

hockeymum2010's picture

Laughing so hard here...

Laughing so hard here... Tell you what Amy when Dogs can speak for themselves that they want to marry their owners and when they can sign their name on the marriage certificates I will then go and vote my conscience like you. Talk about him/her trying to blow smoke and elude the actual topic at hand.

As everyone can read from the user name I am the daughter of a homosexual. My father being bi-sexual did not in any way shape or form make me gay or lesbian. I am straight, but I have an open mind and can fully understand the feeling of those who are gay, lesbian, bisexual etc. I will vote NO on Nov. 3rd. No silly scare tactics about the crazy things they will teach my children in school will work. Oh an by the way my dad did not have AIDs or give it to us kids or any other STDs. What my dad did give us was love, respect, and a great up bringing and was an amazing father. A awesome Grandfather and a wonderful friend to all those who knew and loved him.

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Great, another one looking

Great, another one looking for the volcano. We must only believe what we are told. There really are aliens in there, honest!

ReaganRepublican's picture
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Bestiality is totally

Bestiality is totally different then homosexuality. Human love and marraige differ as (most) we have learned to walk in an upright position witout dragging our knuckles on the ground. These sorts of scare tactics iangol are not only not going to work but they are also insulting!

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I'm sure that's the same

I'm sure that's the same inane argument that was used when they passed the law that blacks could marry whites.

BIGGITY BUMP's picture

It is people like you that

It is people like you that take a simple issue of equality and blow it out of complete proportion. All because you do not really understand the issues at hand and believe, and follow, the smoke screens that are thrown at you. Congratulations my friend, you are a lemming.

exoggensani's picture

I laughed so hard last night

I laughed so hard last night when I watched this debate on tv.

Mary Bonauto said she had not heard the NO on 1 people calling the YES on 1 bigots. Then
Brian Souchet told her she must not be paying to much attention the campaign. It was hysterical to see this! LOL Mary Bonauto is campaigning with her eyes closed

ojhuig's picture

Well I've heard them being

Well I've heard them being called bigots, because I am one of the ones doing it.

jalbrecht1's picture
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the YES on 1 folks are

the YES on 1 folks are making one simple argument - deny gays in our society equal status because they are disgusting people.
We need to vote NO on 1 to tell our fellow citizens that we not only accept them we will try our best to honor and protect them as I hope we do with all our fellow citizens.
Jon Albrecht Dixfield

BIGGITY BUMP's picture

I agree 100%, as I have

I agree 100%, as I have said, question 1 is about marriage equality, nothing more and we need to keep it at that. Denying homosexual couples the right to be legally married is not only wrong it is immoral.

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*Standing ovation* to Jon.

*Standing ovation* to Jon. Well said.

jalbrecht1's picture
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sammie demands rational

sammie demands rational replys to his incoherent comments. Sammie is worried about the "obscene promiscuity" of gay men. What discourages promiscuity, why marriage which sammie's against. Sammie's concerned about huge increases in STD's among gays. But his sources are 11 to 17 years old. 40% of teenage girls mostly heterosexual have or have had an STD. STD's are spread by promiscuous sexual activity. Homosexual sexual activities are the same a heterosexual. Heterosexuals engage in them at the same rates as Homosexuals. What discourages the spread of STD's. Marriage which sammie opposes.

Sammie why do we have to be rational when you aren't.
Vote NO on 1 Help reduce the spread of STD's and promiscuity
Jon Albrecht Dixfield

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While it will take many

While it will take many years to work out the process that takes place to create sexual orientation. It will occur. But based on what we know now almost no chance exists that sexual orientation is a choice any more than eye, hair, or skin color. Although I will admit that sexual behavior is a choice. And I will admit that under extreme trama like brutal rape or Christian indoctrination sexul behavior may be different than sexual orientation. It would be a serious violation of human rights if the state dictated sexual behavior except where they have compelling reasons like incest.
Jon Albrecht Dixfield

FeloPrergoHok's picture

Nice try Stacey W. but a

Nice try Stacey W. but a 2009 fact sheet shows that AIDS is quite prevalent with 56,300 new people in 2007 higher than previously thought. The epidemic continues to have a disproportionate impact on certain populations, particularly racial and ethnic minorities, and
GAY AND BISEXUAL MEN. So as this states quite obviously it is still a GAY disease.
• More than 1.1 million people are estimated to be infected.
U.S. Total 1,030,832
Figure 1: Key Snapshot of the U.S. Epidemic Today
• Number of new HIV infections, 2006: 56,300
• Number of people living with HIV/AIDS: 1.1 million, including
more than 468,000 with AIDS
• Number of AIDS deaths since beginning of epidemic: 583,298,
including 14,561 in 2007
• Percent of people infected with HIV who don’t know it: 21%

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Even with your numbers,

Even with your numbers, which you do not quote your source on (I would like to read the information myself), nor do you show which of those numbers are gay vs. straight, you still do not show how granting a human being the right to be in a legal monogamist relationship has anything to do with this particular argument. Are you simply afraid that the tax breaks will reduce taxes collected in this state? Do you really think gay people will go away if you vote yes? Could you possibly see that if people didn't have to hide they would be better protected from these diseases? I cannot continue to follow your distorted logic on disease. It really has nothing to do with the issue at hand, and the vote will not change our ability to see the stats differently. I'll let the documented sources I posted stand and this will be the last of my comments on this particular branch of this discussion.

ojhuig's picture

Sammie, you're missing an

Sammie, you're missing an important point. These diseases rose for a while among gays, but they have always been (and still are) more prevalent among straight people. You are mis-informed at best.

FeloPrergoHok's picture

You miss the point

You miss the point "unforgivenjimi." I spoke of the much higher rates of numerous diseases - why promote it with Gay Marriage -- so that more confused kids will explore and go into that lifestyle, and you compare it to some bar lady that gets drunk and goes home with different guys - another bad choice? It is rampant among gays especially men.
This sexual choice cannot possibly be compared to skin color either!

BIGGITY BUMP's picture

I am not discounting the

I am not discounting the numbers listed by CDC, the source I used. And to get all the truth out there it also states that 83% of Women got HIV/AIDS from heterosexual sex.

However, what the numbers are not showing is this: how much of this M/M sexual contact is both partners being fully gay men? Would you be willing to stipulate that some are seemingly straight married to women men that are sneaking around to fulfill some desire within themselves? Probably not, you do not strike me as the type.

All I am saying is that numbers can mean anything. And as for confusing kids? What is more confusing, letting this all be out in the open or continuing on, telling them it is bad and wrong and if they feel that way they are dirty?

You can use numbers to say anything, with divorce so high why should we allow marriage at all? Or should we just jail those that get divorces? That affects and confuses kids as well. Whether or not gay marriage is allowed there will always be promiscuous people out there, that is the point I was trying to make, and they will all be of varying sexual orientation.

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You deliberately

You deliberately misunderstand me. I do not have an issue with skin color, sadly the updated stats include that information. Your point is counter productive, as marriage inherently means monogamy and commitment to one partner which reduces the rates of disease, and you are voting to deny that right.

FeloPrergoHok's picture

SOME SOURCES FOR

SOME SOURCES FOR DISEASES

(1) Mireya Navarro,”Federal Officials See Sharp Rise of Hepatitis Among Gay Men,” The New York Times, March 6, 1992
(2) Centers for Disease Control, HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report, Vol.9, No.2, May, 1998
(3) American Adolescents: How Healthy Are They?, p. 31, American Medical Association, 1990
(4) Robert Garofalo and others, “The Association Between Health Risk Behaviors and Sexual Orientation Among a School-based Sample of Adolescents,” Pediatrics, 101 pp 895-902, (1998).

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Source: cdc.gov 2009:

Source: cdc.gov 2009: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/aa/resources/other/pdf/HIV_AA_DearColleagu...
"We are now in the third decade of the HIVIAIDS epidemic. The epidemic has changed in many important ways. For example, there have been dramatic declines in the occurrence of new HIV and AIDS cases since the beginning of the epidemic and today, however, the news is not universally positive. Tragically, the majority of those affected by HIVIAIDS are African-Americans and other people of color, which is in contrast to the early years of the epidemic."
Again I ask, do you have anything that has current data? I do, I just gave it to you. Your beating a dead horse with the statistics that are well over 10 years old.

FeloPrergoHok's picture

I posted five hours ago and

I posted five hours ago and as I thought nothing but inane rants; not one rational response to explain any points I made, i.e. the increase in diseases from the gay lifestyle.
Trust me, I am not a homophobe. I work around gay friends daily. Almost every male wants no part of a gay marriage and the statistics on the obscene promiscuity among male homosexuals - it is shocking - EXPLAIN it please and how bringing that to Maine and putting that stamp of approval will benefit Maine?

news4u's picture

"Trust me, I am not a

"Trust me, I am not a homophobe. I work around gay friends daily."
Ooohhhhhhh.....Aren't you the brave one Sammie!

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"Despite the significant

"Despite the significant reductions in perinatal HIV transmission and cases of congenital syphilis in the United States, African-American children still remain at risk. In 2004, 71 percent of the infants reported as having HIVIAIDS were African American, and 63 percent of U.S. children younger than 13 years of age who had a new AIDS diagnosis were African-American. Also in 2004,44 percent of the reported cases of congenitai syphiiis were among African-American infants." source cdc.gov hiv_aa_dearcolleague.pdf. Those aren't stats about gay people, those are stats on children. The problem isn't about gays, it's about not having information to keep yourself and your unborn children safe when your sleeping with someone. You need current stats to validate your point.

BIGGITY BUMP's picture

Okay, you want a reasonable

Okay, you want a reasonable response to the STD/disease point... what about all those women at Mixer's in Sabattus? The ones that go home with someone different every weekend? Promiscuity is not limited to just homosexuals, it crosses all sexual orientations. Numbers mean nothing and can be looked at in a variety of ways. However, Question 1 is about marriage equality, about two people that love each other being able to be legally married, that is all.

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Hook, when are you going to

Hook, when are you going to site your source?

Hook's picture

Here's one for you, lefties.

Here's one for you, lefties. Michelle Obama is firmly opposed to same-sex marriage.

Think of it. Michelle Obama agrees with Madore. What's a liberal to do?

BIGGITY BUMP's picture

Really? Umm, I think you

Really? Umm, I think you need to research the definition of "opposed"

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=13108

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LOL try doing a search with

LOL try doing a search with her name and "homosexuality" what you find is a bunch of people that thump a bible but don't live it proclaiming she's satin's minion for promoting equality. Nice try. There are a lot of her speeches printed that show her belief in equality and anti hate.

Hook's picture

My, my Stacey, aren't we

My, my Stacey, aren't we gullible? You actually think the Obamas would put that out there, and it would be available on the web. See how your little mind works.

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Oh, my bad, my bad. I didn't

Oh, my bad, my bad. I didn't realize we were talking about the *conspiracy* stuff now. No need to quote a source, all conspiracy theory's are valid without proof, I forgot. Shame on me for not being "gullible" while listening to Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck, they know everything and don't have to prove a thing. I forgot how broad a mind I'm dealing with, dismiss all proof and just go with the flow......... That's real and true. I think I found your volcano with the aliens in it, wanna go for a walk and see??

ojhuig's picture

It's not a news show if the

It's not a news show if the host does 90% of the talking!

OldHeathen's picture

The more homos are excepted,

The more homos are excepted, the less of them you will have around. This is because they use to hide, having a spouse, then having kids all the while hiding what they really feel. The only dog I have in this fight is this, I want to live in a country that values Liberty.

ojhuig's picture

Paul Madore spends all his

Paul Madore spends all his time obsessing about what other people do for sex. He's a filthy pervert who should be run out of town. Madore, we don't need your kind around here! And LaBarbera is no better. The education program he disparages is one that will teach kids that it's ok to say NO and be safe. We need that for all teens, gay or straight.

BIGGITY BUMP's picture

So let's do some exploring

So let's do some exploring here...

"The Christian critics of homosexuality rarely mention Jonathan's homosexual love affair with David (I Samuel 18:20, II Samuel 1), the omission of homosexuality from the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20) or Jesus' omission of any criticism of homosexuality. They see the Bible as a weapon of hate instead of a tool for love. But if homosexuality were such a big concern to Christ, then surely Jesus would have mentioned it and someone would have recorded it. Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus take up the issue. Instead, when asked to choose the greatest of the commandments (Matthew 22:36), he explains the greatest commandment is to love."

Natural law? What about the 1500 observed species of animals that show homosexual tendencies and the over 500 well documented species?

The Declaration of Independence states "All men are created equally", this means everyone regardless of gender, color, origin, or sexual orientation. We have worked very hard as a nation over the last 200 years to create a system of equality for everyone that lives within our borders. We welcome immigrants more easily than any other nation in the world. Yet, we are still afraid of homosexuals? Why? Are you afraid to give up the last thing you are allowed to hate? look through history, many Kings of great nations have been homosexuals, yet no one sought to dethrone or kill them. There have been many important celebrities, journalists and politicians who were openly gay and yet none of you sought to drive them out as you think is your right.

It is time to stop hiding behind Leviticus as you are not following it fully. If the Bible is the literal word of your god, then live it fully, you cannot pick and choose.

Question 1 is a very important statement for the state of Maine to send out to our nation. It is time to stop hiding behind the lies, myths and distortions. Homosexuality is a natural occurrence, granted homosexual couple cannot procreate, but if you are using that for a basis for allowing marriage than couples that use birth control, have taken surgical steps to not get pregnant or are to old to procreate should not be allowed to marry. You tend to warp the words of your arguments to fit a given situation without giving thought to what you say in full. Creating equality in marriage will make it better for everyone, homo or heterosexual.

I am not telling anyone how to vote, but do the research for yourselves, stop listening to the TV ads, stop listening to your church social groups or your buddies at the bar. Read the proposed legislation and see for yourself what it says will happen. Just because someone spends $50,000 to say something on tv does not make it the truth... and just because your TV glows does not make it a burning bush.

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Oh, it's like beating your

Oh, it's like beating your head against a brick wall of ignorance. Do you think, if someone you love is dying, that anyone has the right to keep you from them? If your not married they can. In spite of power of attorney or any other papers, you can be kept in a waiting room while that person dies alone. Did your spouse tell you to pull the plug? If your not married it doesn't matter, you have no say. Do you enjoy the "married filing jointly" break you get on taxes? If I don't like the religion you got married in or if you make love sideways or upside down, should I be able to keep you from getting it? Should my child be allowed to tell your child that their parents are evil so they are going to hell because I don't like something you do? That is the extent of the school thing by the way, unless your feeding into the proven lies these paranoid idiots are giving you. But then again, if your feeding into them, then you probably believe fossils are a hoax and again we are beating our heads against the brick wall of your ignorance. More than 350 lawyers in Maine have debunked the lies told by the yes on 1 camp. Do your own thinking.

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Quote jalbrecht1 says Bob

Quote
jalbrecht1 says
Bob Emlich is the pleasant face of the neo-nazi hate groups while Madore is the ugly himmler face. But they both subscribe to the final solution.
Vote NO on 1. Let all Maiers enjoy the rights nd priveleges of bein citizens.
Jon Albrecht Dixfield

The only Nazis here are the lefties like you jalbrecht1. Anyone who will vote for traditional marriage in your eyes is a bigot. Vote Yes on #1

ben427's picture

NO ON 1!!!

NO ON 1!!!

Hook's picture

You're articulate. About as

You're articulate. About as articulate as the bought and paid-for Yolanda.

Hook's picture

You're articulate. About as

You're articulate. About as articulate as the bought and paid-for Yolanda.

Hook's picture

Of course the left

Of course the left characterizes anyone who opposes them as bigots. Liberals always do this.

The fact reamins that homosexuals cannot procreate. End of story.

NEW FLASH: According to a good New York City source, Michelle Obama is staunchly opposed to gay marriage. Any comments, lefty?

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Quote your source? As for

Quote your source? As for procreation, then no one that cannot have a baby should be allowed to be married. Do you qualify? Do you also live by all of the commands in Leviticus? Let me know when your burning your fatted calf at your church door for your sins of the day, I'll bring the red dogs.

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Men with vasectomies cannot

Men with vasectomies cannot procreate. Women with tubes tied or hysterectomies cannot procreate. Condoms and birth control pills prevent procreation. Should people that practice all of those be not allowed to marry and if already married should have their marriages dissolved? Is the only time you have sex for the purpose of procreation?

ben427's picture

NO ON 1!!!

NO ON 1!!!

ben427's picture

NO ON 1!!!

NO ON 1!!!

ben427's picture

NO ON 1!!!

NO ON 1!!!

Bear's picture

YES ON 1 no need to say it 3

YES ON 1 no need to say it 3 or 4 times

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You No on 1 folks are

You No on 1 folks are misled, gullible, and believe anything or just want special privileges - and acceptance of your beliefs that have been OVERWHELMINGLY rejected throughout the nation even in California as well as 29 other states. Do you really think giving the gay lifestyle a stamp of approval on Nov. 3d is not destructive in any way?
Read the statistics: increased mental and emotional illness, increased Sexually transmitted diseases across the broad spectrum to include HIV/Aids, anal cancer, etc., increased non-sexual diseases, confused kids - 12 y.o. who are effiminate or masculine being encouraged to explore and not fight that they are gay, further deterioation of families that are the backbone of the nation, more persecution of traditional, church going people, hate crime silliness as if any violent crime isn't hate driven (now the government will attempt to read minds and assign "hate" of gays as worse than hate of killing a grandmother for example); the death rate of homosexuals being much younger that heterosexuals, etc. etc. I could go on and on with how homosexuality will cause problems. So, instead of attacking me with your mantras of hatred and bigotry (which displays your hatred and bigotry toward anyone who doesn't agree with you) respond with intelligent responses to the statistics mentioned. I would really like to hear rational debate instead of the shrill screaming so associated with Gay Marriage supporters. How do you explain that homosexuals die on average at a much younger age and you turn around and say this will be good for the state of Maine to have the first Gay Marriage "voted in" law in the nation that will undoubtedly encourage more gay exploration.

Bear's picture

hit the nail rite on the

hit the nail rite on the head sammy.its all about special privileges.I do not see the problem gay people say they are discrimnated against and they are not.No one is taking the rite to marriage away from them.They can get married just not to the same sex.being gay is not normal they are all mentally ill.To think that their behavior is normal should clue them in just a little.They need help and allowing them to get married is only going to make their mental illness worse.They want to leave religion out of this.that's impossible if they think like this then why do they want to marry.Religion and marriage go hand in hand

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Sorry property, view my

Sorry property, view my response below. Trained professionals refuse to classify it as a mental disorder, the only people doing so are people with no medical knowledge at all. Sounds very "Scientology" to me. Sadly marriage and government go hand in hand, if you don't like that, then do what I suggested and petition to remove your religious word from my government and go get "civil unioned" to have the tax breaks the government offers.

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Doing a search of your key

Doing a search of your key words (outside of the "effeminate or masculine" 12 y.o.) leads to several interesting articles about s.t.d's and *gasp* African/American people. Does that mean that since I googled it it must be a current and true study?? Have I been mislead? Should we take random studies from the early 80's or 90's and apply that to creating a new law outlawing marriage and/or sex for certain nationalities? Oh the ignorance.... Please explain to me exactly how this law will directly affect YOUR life. Not some random "it's for the kids" or, "not in my church" stuff, but how it will walk into your front door and make your life worse? How will 2 people committing to each other for life, paying taxes, and being there to hold the others hand when they die affect your life personally? If you rationalize the statistics, they are for behavior that is not included in a committed relationship. Promiscuity happens across the lines and marriage is designed for monogamy. Confused 12 year old's commit suicide when they have no one to care enough to be there for them, but instead have someone telling them they are freaks of nature and that homosexuals should all die. Gay exploration as you put it, is here. It has been. Marriage will not increase it, it will give people the opportunity to simply say "I'm committed to this person for my life time" with the tax benefits and the right to make medical decisions that do not affect you directly at all.

Bear's picture

they have that.Civil union

they have that.Civil union and I don't think they are freaks.They are in need of some help mentally

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APA CEO and Medical Director

APA CEO and Medical Director James H. Scully Jr., M.D., wrote:
“Based on scientific and medical evidence the APA declassified homosexuality as a mental
disorder in 1973 – a position shared by all other major health and mental health organizations
based on their own review of the science. I urge you to remove homosexuality from the ‘Physical
Disability Evaluation’ instruction.”
American Psychiatric Association document #200001 states in part: "Therefore, the American Psychiatric Association opposes any psychiatric treatment, such as reparative or conversion therapy which is based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon the a priori assumption that the patient should change his/her sexual homosexual orientation."
As for civil unions, no one is asking your church to marry them and civil unions do not give the same legal standing as a marriage does according to the government. If you don't like the use of the word then start a petition to remove it from the governments use for everyone, I'll sign up for that, until then this is what is available.
You still have not said how this will personally affect you.

Bear's picture

hey STACEY W I still have

hey STACEY W I still have not answered you.You never asked me I'm not the original poster.But im sure its not going to affect me or my children because yes on 1 will take it on Nov 3

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Property, I ask it of all

Property, I ask it of all people that are using the lies that hate groups from Cali and Utah are spoon feeding Mainers. What I asked is HOW it would affect you. Answer is - it wouldn't. Hope your kids don't have to hide things from you in the future due to your scared and closed mind. Oh, and FYI if your homophobic hate is hand in hand with hating immigrants, one of the big Utah hate contributors is an immigrant from Mexico that came up and set up shop to tell American's how to vote. How's she doing in your camp?

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Bob Emlich is the pleasant

Bob Emlich is the pleasant face of the neo-nazi hate groups while Madore is the ugly himmler face. But they both subscribe to the final solution.
Vote NO on 1. Let all Maiers enjoy the rights nd priveleges of bein citizens.
Jon Albrecht Dixfield

Hook's picture

Typical of the left to use

Typical of the left to use the bigotry argument. Who's doing the hating here?

ben427's picture

haha, Madore ======= INSANITY

haha, Madore ======= INSANITY

ben427's picture

haha, Madore ======= INSANITY

haha, Madore ======= INSANITY

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Madore is your picture

Madore is your picture perfect LA bigot trying to disguise his own issues with homosexuals by framing it as a threat to society. Paul you don't like gay marriage THEN DON'T GET ONE, and leave it to individuals to decide for themselves if they want to be married. Isn't that what a true conservative would say? Guess Paul is just a raging bigot. Makes me proud to call LA home. /rant

Any problem that can't be solved with taxcuts, republicans pretend doesn't exist.

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Madore said something. Who

Madore said something. Who gives a flying hoot? “Maine Grassroots Coalition, has spent about $8,300 on the campaign so far, according to state campaign finance reports. About $3,200 has gone toward paying himself and his wife, Susan, for their efforts.” Hilarious. What a martyr. He should grow a little nose-widthed mustache.

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Great. First it was women

Great. First it was women wanting equal rights, and Native Americans, and African Americans, and let's not forget all the Irish, French, Italian, etc. immigrants who have had to overcome prejudice in this country. Not to mention Catholics, they were once considered a great threat to this country and some were actually killed by mob violence. What is it with people wanting protection from prejudice and to be treated equally under the law?? If this keeps up people like Madore won't have ANYONE left to feed their need for superiority!! *sarcasm off*

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I think too much media

I think too much media attention is being given to organizations, as distinct from issues. When we vote on Question 1, we are not voting on which organization we like best. I knew where I stood on this issue before I ever heard of any of these organizations, and the same may be true of most voters. Certainly "Stand for Marriage Maine," although they talk as if they had some official authority to speak for all the Mainers on the Yes side of the issue, has no such authority. We never elected them. And I have been sufficiently turned off by their tactics that when I put a "Yes on 1" sign on my lawn I had it made by a local sign shop rather than using one that says "Stand for Marriage Maine."

Every few days I get another mailing from Marc Mutty or Bob Emrich. They say many things I agree with, but the punch line is always, "Send us money." They talk as if the number of Yes votes on Question 1 will depend on the number of dollars sent to Marc Mutty. I don't think it does. I wrote a pamphlet, "There is no Right to be Agreed with," and printed and distributed it at my own expense to thousands of voters. Many have told me it's the best thing they have read on the subject, and I recently learned of a favorable comment even by someone on the other side. But Marc Mutty, after praising the pamphlet to the skies, refused to contribute to my costs or to distribute the pamphlet because I would not give him control of the printing! Good luck to him, but I don't want his logo on my publication.

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Nice sales pitch, made me

Nice sales pitch, made me revert back to google. Interesting blog about your publications here: http://arafatbd.net/url/35 and your opinions about 06/06/06 are also interesting (wrong, but interesting in that "if I took a psych class would I write a paper about her" interesting). Good to see that all the (for lack of a better word due to the information you yourself provide to the public) nutjobs are gathered together here.

dunna's picture

LaBarbera's description of

LaBarbera's description of the course offered by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force says it all:. "This workshop will empower (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning) youth to increase their emotional and physical safety with intimate partners, acquaintances and hook-ups. Participants will gain and practice skills and tools to convey awareness, gain full consent, assert boundaries and respectively approach someone....".
If voters believe that Question # 1 is only about protecting the rights of gay couples in long term committed monogamous relationships, they are going to be sadly surprised on November 4th.

John 28's picture

Madore is a looser and

Madore is a looser and surprised that the media even bothers to give him coverage. What a waste of time.

katmbailey's picture

Why are we giving ink to a

Why are we giving ink to a guy who foams at the mouth with fear, loathing, and hatred of others? We have an ugly history of oppressive behavior toward Catholics and French Canadians right here in Maine, and we had in Maine one of the strongest chapters of the Ku Klux Klan. These have been ignoble chapters in our history. Much of what Mr Madore says about gay marriage people also said- and with the same hysterical fervor- about interracial marriage. We are better than that.

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Even if "gay" marriage

Even if "gay" marriage stands after next tuesday, homosexuality will not be normalized. Just because you change the laws of man doesn't mean you have changed the laws of nature. THAT, you can't do. YES ON #1!

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Wikipedia: List of animals

Wikipedia: List of animals displayig homosexual behavior, with all referenced articles listed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
The list is just to long to copy here. Laws of nature??

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These people that are of the

These people that are of the same sex aren't hurting anyone. They want protection and should be aloud to get it by getting married if they want to. No one has the right to tell someone else who they can love. Vote NO on #1...Equal rights...

Bear's picture

no one is telling you who to

no one is telling you who to love Henssis1.people like you special rights you are no better than any one else.

BIGGITY BUMP's picture

It is not special rights,

It is not special rights, get off that high horse already. Its about equal rights as spouses.

Bear's picture

to bad im voting yes on 1

to bad im voting yes on 1 and so are the hundreds of people I know and the people they know.goodluck on the no vote

verified

You have not given any

You have not given any founded or logical reason for doing so. You refuse to attempt to rebut the medical proof given, and will not touch the fact that over 350 lawyers looked at all the lies being spread about this law and debunked them. You still continue to spout them. Do you have no factual proof of your standing? Are you seriously basing your voting on lies, fear, and hate? How sad.

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