The greatest right

Politics is about winning, not losing. The people have spoken loud and clear with their veto of same-sex marriage in Maine.

As an individual, they are correct — I have no right to decide how a person lives their life. But as a democratic country, people have the right to vote, and that is one of the greatest rights American citizens have.

Dennis Willette, Wales

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Linda  Daigle's picture

Reagan, perfect words!!!

Reagan, perfect words!!! Tron, you are a troll.......................but you have heard this before, and I believe you get your thrills out of getting people worked are not all so politically savvy as you are vengeful........get over it.

Agreed we took an over

Agreed we took an over political stance, the legislature acted though without voter approval, and that is where it spiraled out of control utterly and completely. Had we been allowed to act and vote earlier or cast our own opinions it would have still remained private. Had it been run on a vote then the private life would not have been revealed. The publicity mongers and whores such as a Christian Civic League, the Stand for Marriage special interests groups, and the rest "spoke" for the voters of Maine. Which they kiss my rear end on because it seems as though the league did little to support as the heinous acts of violence increased in Darfur as the No on two side neglected that knowledge as well. A good looking model for a Catholic church and Baptist churches worldwide which is why the churches on both sides I am very critical of.

Joseph Ziehm
Lewiston, ME
"Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a master in heaven. Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving;" Colossians 4: 1-2

I was walking down the

I was walking down the street and someone asked me if I would vote no on question one. Figuring it was none of their damn business continued walking down the street. Asking me if I would support their partner, right to marry, equality, and their civil rights I declined to answer. In passing by them without answering they swore at me called me a bigot, homophobe, and a few choice words which really should have no impact. Really, though that is not the typical face of No on two and that sets a rather sad precedent and I realize that now people judge superficially. When they judged me they had no inclination that I have high functioning autism and when they judged themselves they realized how carelessly that agreement can weigh on their own psyche. I am no racist, bigot, and or homophobe just do not agree that man should tear asunder what God had in place in the Old Testament and the New Testament I am not angry with those who voiced their opinions it comes down to the fact that Yes on one won out and there should be nothing more stated it went to the voters and got defeated.

On a lighter subject God I love them Pinstripes, God I love them Pinstripes, and God I love them pinstripes.... GO YANKEES!

Joseph Ziehm
Lewiston, ME
"Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a master in heaven. Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving;" Colossians 4: 1-2

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When you treat others

When you treat others differently than you treat people like you, that is the very definition of BIGOT. Why are you so offended by people using the word?


Let us hope this does not

Let us hope this does not come up again; the question has been answered by the voters often enough. Hopefully someone will take it upon themselves to publicise who voted for this in the Legislature and the voters can make the final decision by voting the scoundrels out of office.

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Sorta like the right wing

Sorta like the right wing wackos who keep pushing TABOR and its spawns on us over and over, eh?

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Sorry, RR, but I understand

Sorry, RR, but I understand the democratic process, the Declaration of Independence, and, more importantly the Constitution of the United States and of Maine. We live in a representative democracy. We elect people to represent our interest and also to intelligently decided serious issues that confront us. The founders of Maine wisely decided to include a referendum and people's veto process to insure that despite our best efforts of electing good people, there would always be a safety valve. The problem is entities like the Maine Heritage Policy Council have hijacked the process to serve its narrow agenda. The process works well when you have people so dedicated to an issue that they're willing to spend hours collecting signatures to get issues on the ballot. Now entities like Maine Heritage have a slush fund which PAY people to collect signatures, removing personal conviction with profit motif. Is it legal? Yes. Is it effective ? Absolutely. But it does remove the human element of a significant support for an issue. The Maine Policy Heritage Council has encouraged and supported and put at least ten issues in front of voters in the last few years. It has corrupted the process. I wish it would revert back to its intended reason, but I don't know how to do that, without ruining the whole thing in the process, which is something I cannot favor.

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First let's get a few things

First let's get a few things straight. This thread started with iangol stating that marriage equality proponents were going to bring this forth, again. I remarked that it would be like the MHPC's TABOR demon and its spawns.
Second this past week was the FIRST time marriage equality has EVER been on the Maine ballot. Not the THIRD but the FIRST!
Thirdly, people who are paid to collect signatures have been proven to be more aggressive in collecting that people who just favor the issue. They're getting paid by the signature, and we all know how piece work makes people work harder. They don't care about the issue, they want the signature and will badger, harass and lie to get them. This was proven during the marriage equality . MHPC has hijacked the system. They've sponsored multiple referendums of late, merely by paying people to collect signatures. They've wasted millions of taxpayer dollars on these referendums. They're insisting they're trying to save tax dollars, yet the amount of money necessary to verified, certify petitions and to print and count votes is staggering.

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Then start with telling the

Then start with telling the truth. This past Tuesday was the FIRST time Mainers have voted on marriage equality. Your lie has been repeated so many times by so many people you actually believe it. But the truth is the truth. If you repeat the lie, you'll lose any credibility you may have.

Ray St. Onge's picture

Rinoblast, here in the State

Rinoblast, here in the State of Maine, we do have the right to petition our government regardless of who gained consent at the ballot box.

John Chick's picture

Technically, if one wished

Technically, if one wished to, one could make a very strong case that Lincoln did not have the authority to free the slaves. The Chief Executive's primary function is to "execute" the laws that are sent to his desk from Congress. The President may then sign them into law or veto them (in which case Congress may over-ride the veto with a 2 thirds majority vote.)

Linclon's "Emancipation Proclamation" was really nothing much more than a proclamation. The slaves weren't actually freed until the end of the war.

It has only been in the latter half of the previous century where so called "Executive Orders" have been used to enact "policies" that resemble "law." And both parties are guilty of it.

John A. Chick

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." -- Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Colonel Charles Yancey (January 6, 1816)


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