Mayor-elect, councilors skirmish over dress, inaugural celebration

AUBURN — A disagreement over City Council decorum and attire has two councilors angry at the incoming mayor.

Mayor-elect Dick Gleason said Tuesday he stands by statements he made last month calling for neater dress at City Council meetings.

"I'm not asking for a jacket and tie," Gleason said. "All I'm saying is that I've seen instances where councilors came to meetings in jeans and shorts. I think it's up to us as city leaders to set an example, especially for children who watch us."

Councilors on Monday later voted to downsize the Dec. 7 inauguration, a move one councilor said was being done to punish the mayor-elect.

Councilors Dan Herrick and Mike Farrell said they were offended by some pre-election comments Gleason made to the Danville Grange last month. Speaking at an Oct. 8 candidate forum, Gleason said he wanted to see more decorum at City Council meetings, beginning with how councilors dress.

"I think there have been times when they've come directly from the barn to the City Council meeting, and I don't think that's how it should be," Gleason told Grange members. "I think they should take a shower and at least put on a shirt."

Herrick, a contractor by trade, took offense at that.

"I have never come here without taking a shower," Herrick said Monday night."Believe it or not, I have hot water, too. I even have floors in my home."

Clothes don't make the man, Herrick said.

"I had a mind tonight to come here in bib overalls and straw hat, and just walk out of the barn without taking a shower," Herrick said. "This guy here is not wearing a suit, coat and a tie to do a good job. And if anybody out there feels they want me to wear a suit, coat and tie, in the next election in two more years, please come forward in a suit, coat and a tie and run against me."

Gleason said he stands by his Oct. 8 statements. He is meeting individually with city councilors, and is giving them copies of the city's employee manual concerning attire and meeting conduct.

"I'm asking what they think about that," Gleason said. He's not trying to get a legal dress code passed, but he wants councilors to be more aware of how they dress.

"I don't think councilors should be above the rules of behavior we expect of our employees," Gleason said. "They should represent the best the city has to offer in all ways. So, I stand by what I said. I don't think I'm barking up the wrong tree."

Farrell said he objected to being presented with the city's employee dress code.

"I don't feel that I am an employee of the City of Auburn," Farrell
said. "If I come into the meeting with my clothes all torn up and my
shoes on the wrong feet, am I going to get written up?"

 

Inauguration trimmed

Gleason and the City Council are scheduled to be sworn in Dec. 7, and the city usually turns the event into a celebration. But councilors said nobody being sworn in next month is new to the job. A big inauguration is wasted, they said.

"I'd rather see that money go to something worthwhile," Farrell said. "We had people that couldn't heat their homes last winter and now we're going to have a big party? I think it makes more sense to take that money and put it into the heating assistance fund."

City Manager Glenn Aho said Central Maine Community College was donating the space for the inauguration, but the city had planned to spend up to $2,000 for catered refreshments.

Councilor David Young urged councilors to simply cut the catering.

"Otherwise, we're just doing this to upset the mayor-elect," Young said. "Maybe that's the intention of all this, to upset him because he's upset all of us."

Councilors voted 4-2 to cut the catering and move the inauguration to Auburn Hall. Gleason said that was a shame.

"If we're that concerned about costs, just cut the refreshments," he said. "We don't need them, but we do need to celebrate Auburn. And that's what this is: an opportunity for the residents to celebrate Auburn." 

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cajunnb's picture

Ray - I was going to say

Ray - I was going to say that I don't believe councilors are employees. I hope we voted for people who would work for us - and govern our city - regardless of how they dress. However, so many of the comments surprised me - So many of you are perfectly happy to tell others how to dress. As for the Mayor, - arrogance is a flaw and not appreciated in any public servant. Brush up on your leadership skills.

tamthesham's picture

See, this is a great example

See, this is a great example of why Lewiston Auburn are known to be the Armpit of Maine.

I used to watch the council meetings on tv and laugh at the silly things they would go on about. And I DID watch the meeting when they discussed stormwater utilities and run off problems. AND ITS TRUE!....one of them said "why should I worry about it? I live on a hill and the water rolls down to my neighbor!"

DR's picture

Professionals don't need to

Professionals don't need to be told how to dress for official occasions. Councilors who have a problem with wearing appropriate attire should be ashamed of themselves rather than combative. The City is essentially a business. Businesses have dress codes for a reason. If some councilors don't know what that reason is, they're not willing to present themselves as professionals and therefore should resign. If they can't even manage to dress themselves properly, God knows what else they do in meetings.

Joel's picture

Seven months ago I worked

Seven months ago I worked for Auburn and had to attend more than a few council meetings. I have to say, although I agree with those who say they need to dress the part more, dressing should be the least of the public's worries for some of them. At one meeting I was at where the discussion of stormwater utilities and what to do about the problem of development and runoff occurred, one councilor said something akin to, "why should I worry about it? I live on a hill and the water rolls down to my neighbor!" This same councilor at another time harrassed a city code inspector with a couple brutal phone messages about "holding up business in Auburn". Funny, this same councilor has a contracting business in Auburn.
Another councilor chomps down on messy meals during the meetings and only interjects with things entirely off-topic, as far as I could tell at the meetings I attended.
I think some of them are dressing like yahoos because the people elected a few yahoos.

Jake McDaniel's picture

Couldn't they all wear a

Couldn't they all wear a city Polo shirt and slacks???? Stop acting like 2 year olds and dress the part people.

Akuma's picture

They are paid for what they

They are paid for what they do by the city, so they are indeed city employees. Therefore they should definitely have to abide by the same rules everyone else does.

They may represent the "working man" but if I showed up to work dressed in jeans and shorts I wouldn't have to worry about showing up much longer. Just go get a pair of Khakis and a button down shirt and quit your bitchin'.

Heck, maybe Santa can bring you guys a suit.

dingdong23230's picture

Seriously, arent we all

Seriously, arent we all adults? There's a new sherrif in town, now. I agree that people should not show up in dirty clothes, but with all the issues that need to be addressed in the town, this should just be a given. I for one, trust Dan Herrick and all of the others to dress accordingly. I think that they represent the "working class" people of Auburn.

Slow news day for the Sun Journal, always stirring the pot.

Nancy1's picture

This is the top story

This is the top story yesterday AND today? I had no idea this was such an important issue!
I have a suggestion - give them all uniforms they can keep on site for a quick change before meetings.

Winterbear98's picture

People are loseing homes and

People are loseing homes and you people are worried about wearing three piece suits?
the people that dress causual pay the taxes Save your suits for the Ball

matlock4hire's picture
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Give me a break, this is a

Give me a break, this is a very reasonable request. I find it time that adults set a better example and dressing in a professional manner is the first step to educate these kids out there who look like they are street walkers, gangbangers etc. If adults don't set the example who will. If you don't want to dress professional than get off the council.

007's picture

The councilors in question

The councilors in question have obviously never heard of"Dress for Success". Are these the kind of people you want visitors or potential business developers to watch on TV, representing "our" city? I say "put your best foot forward , dumb asses"!LOL

Winterbear98's picture

Save your battles for the

Save your battles for the real stuff comeing like higher taxes job lost we had enough stuff shirts already

sredmun's picture

I'm all for casual wear but

I'm all for casual wear but there's a limit and going to a city council meeting is not the place for casual wear. I'm thinking these are the same guys who go to weddings and funerals in cutoffs and tank top...... One must dress for the occasion. It shows disrespect for your cohorts when one dresses inappropriately.

Er12's picture

In the state of Maine you

In the state of Maine you can count on seeing three types in a suit and tie: undertakers, car salesmen, and lawyers. None of them ever have any good news for you.

Ginger1's picture

HERRICK is offended? Isn't

HERRICK is offended? Isn't he the councilor that voted on an issue that he later financially benefitted from? THAT"S offensive! The dress code is moot concerning Herrick anyway because you can't put a tuxedo on a t~rd.

ONLY_GOD_CAN_JUDGE_ME's picture

I am so ashamed of Auburn's

I am so ashamed of Auburn's councilmen!! Do we not have more important things to discuss during meetings?... C'mon people...I think this is childish.
I do however agree with there decision to move to Inauguration to city hall.....I hope they put that $2000 dollars to good use How about bathroom doors for the rest of the bathrooms at ELHS? I wonder what the dress code for the inauguration will be? ? I wonder how many will show up in muddy boots with there coveralls and grease stained hands....not to mention how many will not be freshly showered....oh I wish I could be there!! I see some retaliation coming to this mayor every chance they get!!

timcm's picture

Um well these two cities are

Um well these two cities are full of it. Its too bad and I'm glad I don't have to play a part in it any more.
Why do we have to compare these two cities. They are totally not similar in any way. Its like comparing apples to oranges.
We need to move on people and grow up.
We the people voted for these adults, now start acting like one.
I go to work in Jeans but when I need to go to a business meeting I clean up and change my clothes for that occassion. Stop being lazy!
We should though dress for success. Doesn't anyone remember that book by Dale Carnegie?
I remember my accounting teacher from high school in Auburn that had this as a required reading book for accounting class.

Dave's picture

Farrell and Herrick

Farrell and Herrick seemingly have no dignity.

Tired's picture

Absolutely hilarious!

Absolutely hilarious! Gleason has a point, let's be professional. But I've got to give Herrick credit for a very amusing retort. Farrell just thinks he's something else, his arrogance just shouts "I'm the GD president of the United States! And if >I< want to wear bermuda shorts, be damned to anyone who gets in my way!" Very pleased that Gleason called these two out, obviously they are the ones he was talking about. As I said, the mayor's right - a city councilor should appear at a public meeting in somewhat professional attire to uphold the dignity of the position they were elected to.

Dave's picture

Farrell and Herrick think

Farrell and Herrick think they have done good. In my opinion, they haven't. Just done a fine job of ruining our schools and increasing decrepit roads in our city. Good job, guys. Nobody wants to move to a town with crummy schools and crummy roads. Sometimes you have to spend to make things better. They just don't get it.

wheelie207's picture
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Is the Auburn Council going

Is the Auburn Council going to act like children just like the Lewiston Council did, and they where wearing suits and nice clothes.
The Auburn Council needs to grow up. If they don't want to wear proper atire, then they don't need to be on the council looking like bums and we don't need to have people thinking the city is run by bums or adults acting like children.

BillTheGorilla's picture
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Dribble,Dribble and more

Dribble,Dribble and more dribble !! come on Ive seen well dressed people screw up worst than regular dressed people judge by actions not by what you wear ! And the new Mayor could start a trend SAVE MONEY FOR TAXPAYERS !!!!

nancythom's picture

A man is not made by his

A man is not made by his clothes. This may be true but he is JUDGED by his appearence.
Why would it be difficult to dress in a professional manner for such an important position. All the members of the council ran for there position which means they worked hard for something they believed in. I dont think the new Mayor is asking much when he asks the members to be dressed in a professional manner. A collar on the shirt and a decent pair of pants is that asking a lot. One councilman stated he was not an employee of the City. How can that be if he or she recieves payment from the City. What is the pay for? My guess would be for services rendered during the meetings, so I guess they are employed to be at the meeting. SO, lets get it right and follow the employee hand book and dress accordingly.

Woody's picture
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g2bn2n - They don't have to

g2bn2n - They don't have to do the city's business or dress discreetly. They're not employees, although I think someone here said they were paid. Didn't say who paid them, however. So they should be allowed to come unshaven, without a shirt to show off their manly, hairy chests and in flip flops. And with their junkyard dog. That's where the madness ends.

verified

Clothes and pettiness, does

Clothes and pettiness, does not make the individual, or the leader; perhaps the mayor-elect should more wisely pick and choose his battles!

BarrelRacer's picture

Come on people! You are a

Come on people! You are a leader in your City! Grow up and wear the proper attire! Dress attire sets the stage as far as I'm concerned.

BarrelRacer's picture

Come on people! You are a

Come on people! You are a leader in your City! Grow up and wear the proper attire! Dress attire sets the stage as far as I'm concerned.

DonaldR's picture

I agree with the mayor.

I agree with the mayor. It's well proven those who have dress codes in school are better behaved and those who dress for success are usually more successful.

Guys, this isn't a poker game. You're representing your constituents and I, for one, would appreciate you being taken seriously. City business is serious business.

How much are councilors paid, BTW?

ojhuig's picture

They get $2520 per year.

lebearun's picture
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I agree with the mayor 100%!

I agree with the mayor 100%!

sheade's picture

I believe there's a dress

I believe there's a dress code for the city employees why not the councilors? If not I'll wait till someone shows up with a tank top, shorts, sandals and unshaven. Could happen if there's no dress code.

tron's picture

During campaigning, what you

During campaigning, what you see is generally what you get. If they campaign a suit and tie, then that's their gig, if dressed casually then that's who they are. And that's who people vote for. I'm just grateful we don't have a pencil thumper on the council like they do in Lewiston.

g2bn2n's picture

Oh great I can see it

Oh great I can see it now...next Councilors will be required to be clean shaven as well. These folks should be selected because of their ability to make appropriate and necessary decisions...that is their job. Show me where it says a well dressed individual is more capable of doing this than someone in jeans and shorts. C'mon people...where will the madness end?

Winterbear98's picture

city council meeting not

city council meeting not bootcamp

proudnannie's picture

The mayor is absolutly

The mayor is absolutly right. Attire should be proper for council meetings. If any member of the council does not like this than let them resign.

UseshySpape's picture

Just when you thought it was

Just when you thought it was safe to go to the new improved Lewiston city council meetings Auburn's pettiness takes center stage!

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