Instead of allegation, offer facts

Two city councilors in Lewiston have gone public with their reasons for firing former City Administrator Jim Bennett.

Robert Reed and Denis Theriault gave a lengthy interview to a local publication that covers politics; Reed, as well, authored a letter to his constituents.

There's no need to rehash it here. We appreciate their forthrightness; firing Bennett required explanation beyond what was provided. But one assertion made by Reed and Theriault demands further clarification. They claim Bennett would withhold information from the council.

In their interview, the councilors were said to say, "Theriault and Reed said that their requests for information from Bennett were often ignored. 'If the city council asked to explore something, Jim would decide yes or no,'" Theriault said."

This is more than a policy dispute or personality conflict. It's an accusation of misconduct. As administrator, Bennett was duty-bound to fulfill councilors' requests. Theriault and Reed have now alleged, in certain terms, he would not.

As the accusers, the councilors should produce specific examples of when this misconduct allegedly occurred. They have brought this issue into the open and should follow it through with facts, instead of letting it linger in vagueness.

We disagreed with the council's firing of Bennett, because we saw it as a shortsighted decision based on little else but disagreements about policy, power and tension between the councilors. The litany of other reasons cited by Reed and Theriault for their decision confirmed this appearance. There was bad blood between them, since just about day one of their tenure on the council. (And perhaps even before.) 

Yet our opinion — and the opinion of many in this community who disagreed with the firing — has been shaped by this appearance of council infighting and the lack of a compelling reason to let Bennett go. If there is evidence of professional misconduct by the former administrator, however, this opinion could change. If his actions merited his termination, then so be it. 

Reed and Theriault, in their public comments, have hinted at this being the case, but nothing more. They owe the citizens of Lewiston more concrete information, as well as Bennett, since this allegation now calls his reputation as Lewiston administrator into question. 

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seanisnlewiston2009's picture

Robert, You are an

Robert,
You are an elected official? Come on you sound like a 10 year old in the school yard. How can you insult people like this when you are in office? That’s not right. A simple “No comment” would be proficient. You bash the people whom elected you. The people who organized the meeting at the Ramada, Well buddy they’re on the right track. You need to step down, your childish sense of direction where this city is going. It seems that you just want to bring in all kinds of “Upper class business” what about the people who would benefit from a new hotel. They people who may have not gone to college. As a official of this city I think its time you put the little people first and not your buddies on the council, and your friends at the local country club. Do us all a favor and instead of getting rid of Bennett why don’t you be the big guy and step down.. Then and only then Lewiston might be able to put them self’s into a better financial situation. Because you sure won’t do any good. If you’re not sure what direction to go in. why don’t we take a look back at our boy scout Law… Here I found it for you!

A Scout is Trustworthy.
A Scout tells the truth. He is honest, and he keeps his promises. People can depend on him.
A Scout is Loyal.
A Scout is true to his family, friends, Scout leaders, school, and nation.
A Scout is Helpful.
A Scout cares about other people. He willingly volunteers to help others without expecting payment or reward.
A Scout is Friendly.
A Scout is a friend to all. He is a brother to other Scouts. He offers his friendship to people of all races and nations, and respects them even if their beliefs and customs are different from his own.
A Scout is Courteous.
A Scout is polite to everyone regardless of age or position. He knows that using good manners makes it easier for people to get along.
A Scout is Kind.
A Scout knows there is strength in being gentle. He treats others as he wants to be treated. Without good reason, he does not harm or kill any living thing.
A Scout is Obedient.
A Scout follows the rules of his family, school, and troop. He obeys the laws of his community and country. If he thinks these rules and laws are unfair, he tries to have them changed in an orderly manner rather than disobeying them.
A Scout is Cheerful.
A Scout looks for the bright side of life. He cheerfully does tasks that come his way. He tries to make others happy.
A Scout is Thrifty.
A Scout works to pay his own way and to help others. He saves for the future. He protects and conserves natural resources. He carefully uses time and property.
A Scout is Brave.
A Scout can face danger although he is afraid. He has the courage to stand for what he thinks is right even if others laugh at him or threaten him.
A Scout is Clean.
A Scout keeps his body and mind fit and clean. He chooses the company of those who live by high standards. He helps keep his home and community clean.
A Scout is Reverent.
A Scout is reverent toward God. He is faithful in his religious duties. He respects the beliefs of others.

Sean

TownClown's picture

If reading this gobbledigook

If reading this gobbledigook hasn't inspired people to get the hell out of lewiston, I am afraid there's no help for you. Also, you guys should have paid a little more attention in your english writing classes! Your writing clearly reflects the idiots that you are. "It is always better to remain silent and have people think you're an idiot, rather than to open your mouth and prove them right!"

Robert61's picture

Last time I checked we were

Last time I checked we were looking at something along the lines of a Hilton Garden Inn, not a four star establishment - but lets go deeper - exactly how many executive or management jobs does the average hotel offer - lets see General manager - maybe food services manager and perhaps a housekeeping supervisor - oh yeah don;t forget night manager which is a fancy term for the kid working the front desk. But you weill get lots of housekeeping positions, so congratulations on all those jobs with high pay and huge benefits =- not! Oh by the way, missed you at tonights meeting...so much for you're showing up!

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There's night managers, day

There's night managers, day managers, seasonal jobs, training for managers, employees on at all hours, night cooks, day cooks, and what's that you want something which is in your own mind you have said it before. I'm an honest salesman and know what the city needs and I'm not looking to line my own pockets like you have expressed for yourself as a councilor. You don't want jobs you want the service economy look at how well across the bridge is doing councilor. Had to work on my computer rather funny installing Linux on an iMac 500 and it works so well. How much would you make off the top as a councilor for a contribution with your proposed idea of a smaller venue while not generating a larger take for the entire city? I don't like people who play the political games for grifting and if you want me there I will jam everything in your face, down your throat, and bring it together so that when I've defended myself well enough you will have no ground to stand on. You want to play the Sun Tzu economical model? Step out of the way you don't want a larger scale, you want a smaller scale, you bluff with arrogance, and then when you get proven wrong that makes you a liability toward creating an infrastructure in the community. Don't forget there's also security jobs and the factors that it also can bring different acts and troupes. You are a real treat Robert I'm going to print this out, print it at my college, and then I'm going to make my own proposal to the community. Which can be also learned and used toward college credit for say business management or an externship. I'll also write my own take on how loathsome of an elected offical you have become with the honest reflections of your own arrogance and creeds.

Joe Ziehm
Lewiston ME

There are two kinds of Republicans in this world moderate and conservative for so long I've picked the moderate that now it is time to consider the path less traveled.

Joseph's picture
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I hope Lewiston's voters

I hope Lewiston's voters check this site regularly enough to notice how sarcastic and smug your replies are. I hope they realize how unprofessional and childish you appear when you write. The only description which comes to mind at this moment that I believe would describe you accurately would be: "feckless".

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Let me get this straight...

Let me get this straight... the shipping center in Lewiston ships to the store in Auburn which generates a revenue for the city of Auburn. The Lewiston shipping center generates a shipping center that goes toward Auburn. Okay Robert to put it lightly there is management training in those jobs, that comes from the Andover college campus, and listen I will explain it to you really slowly you screwed up! Do you have any ideas how useless you are to this city. Well someone else did this, someone else did that, and Bennett took no part in it. A hotel with a manager, I do believe in Boston the four stars... yeah, their employees invest in a 401k, you know, discounted vacations, and Robert keep digging a hole for yourself; the businesses give their workers discounted rates on renting cars. A four star Hilton with a 401k plan, discounted vacations, and cars you would be against. Thanks... you don't study the business practices of Hilton or other establishments... good to know.

Joe Ziehm
Lewiston ME

There are two kinds of Republicans in this world moderate and conservative for so long I've picked the moderate that now it is time to consider the path less traveled.

Robert61's picture

As to jobs created by hotels

As to jobs created by hotels and restaurants, thats not what we need to stimulate our economy, we need higher paying good quality jobs to attract younger more educated people. Hotels and restaurants do not breing those jobs in any significant number.

Robert61's picture

Joe - respect is earned and

Joe - respect is earned and the way you have written on here means you get it back in spades..as to the Colisee, please feel free to list all the sold out shows and the money they made - I can only think of one (and I served on the voard during my first 6 months in office) Larry the cable Guy...many shows lost money and caused further damage to the buidling which also needed to be fixed. As to mr. Bennett, give some credit to greg Mitchell and the work hge did, oh and if youy think Southern gateway is a lasting achievement - go look at the lack of tax dollars we get from that little project, last i checked it was all TIF'd and we get nothing in new dollars.

I have no problems with hotels, however if you give away all the potential tax dollars they would generate to them - is it such a good ECONOMIC model? You find an anchor thats worth having, give incentives for them to relocate and hope that others will buidl around it because of their success, thus Walmart in Auburn, Walmart distribution in lewiston, etc...

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Show me respect and do not

Show me respect and do not treat anyone as if they are slow councilor I will remind you that many of those shows which you phrase as not interjecting money into the community brought sold out shows. Also the Somalian businesses appear to be doing well near Andover College councilor are you aware of that in the town in which you serve? Which means transforming the transitional phrase of business and settings in which the local community grows the city economical face value. Are you meaning to say that rather then a Hilton or a conference center you would oppose having another hotel akin to a Ramada bringing jobs and the like to the State of Maine. You really are dense as a councilor are you not? Do you realize how many customers those businesses attract as the city slowly rebuilds itself into a metro center? You seem to forget that as those sold out shows eclipsed the limits you have set forth that it grew and expanded the cultural business environment here. It is healthy to have businesses in place councilor you seem to have lost that already. I see you failed to mention those businesses which attract attention, bring in a cleaner environment, and have helped transform the face of the Lewiston down town section. Treat me like I'm slow again go ahead; councilor you are so out of touch with the businesses which have grown out of store fronts that were once deserted, and because it was brought about by city planning and it is not branded with your name tag that means that Bennett did not deserve credit. Your so jealous you have the traits of Daniel Craig from Road to Perdition it was Bennett ideals which transformed Lewiston. Councilor how does it feel that you neglected to mention the downtown facets of Lewiston changing? Also as per psychological information that comes from operant conditioning and looking into the ego of your postings. Anyone who stands against you councilor gets run over maybe because that did not have your name on it that makes you more then jealous tell me is that the face of the local body politic? I'm going for an eary childhood education degree and focus more on psychological conditioning and what not if you want me to make you feel lost in front of the general public again of course I will. And, just for fun I'll throw it the factors that you missed the downtown Lewiston section. Even to the various festivals which attract commerce! Councilor are you honestly saying that you feel so burned about having money brought into the state because it does not bear that name brand of yours its okay to not have it and stage a pious meeting in the process? Economical models which you do not support brought money back into the markets; if you want I can tell everyone you neglected to mention the new businesses which were planned and that you neglected them being Somilian in nature to the public eye is that okay councilor? You treat someone slowly with an ego I treat you just the same, you neglect information, I bring it to light, and then you stage an event piece piously to appear to be "determined" to notice wrongs in the ways festivals which bring in the markets of tourism are staged and confirm in your postings that you are out of touch with local businesses and those who run them. If you wanted examples then there are just a few for you, along with cleaning up the face of down town, and making sure that the populace and population have places to go besides Portland or Auburn to drive the industry there way. A conference Hilton, with millions of dollars paid by Hilton to prepare it, and then build it; that builds the city. Glad to know your so out of touch with reality councilor all you have is faceless allegations. Then you progress to tell us that Bennett did not grow local businesses when in fact all of the newer businesses have opened up honest work for the immigrants. You treat everyone like their slow and like you know better then them at what goes on. You wanted something posted and you want me to come correct, should I bring some new local business owners, and see the neglected information at work? I'm sure that the flourishing community acknowledges that new found fear of yours when you ask... what did Bennett do? Thanks maybe you want another Buffalo New York destroyed by urban renewal. I don't care if this is another deleted comment as Newman always put it... "I don't care if it rains or freezes..."

Joe Ziehm
Lewiston ME

There are two kinds of Republicans in this world moderate and conservative for so long I've picked the moderate that now it is time to consider the path less traveled.

Robert61's picture

Joe, lets take Bob Dylan as

Joe, lets take Bob Dylan as a great example - when the ity owned the Colisee they could book concerts and shows one of two ways - a striahgt rental or a split of the gate - thinking it was more lucrative, those who decided (not me) chose split of the gate. Do you know how manytimes we lost money on tose events - take the Wiggles where we lost significant income - rodeo was another to say nothing of some damage to the floor from that event. But please shed light for all of Lewiston and tell us exactly which businesses are thriving AND tell us why you give that credit to Mr. Bennett, as I am truly curious.

As to a conference or convention center, I am against it because (a) we do not have the transportation infrastructure to attract people to events other than 1 day including no airport passenger service. To be successful you must have a facility that attracts two and three day events with people staying in hotels, using restaurants and spending money here, thus the revenue from those ventures helps offset the significant loss a convention center would create. Look no further than the Colisee for proof, bleeding this city of over half a million taxpayer dollars each year the city operated it. Do you really want that type of debt here? I have no problem with bringing in more hotels, I'm just against them getting a free ride from the city as sugested by one local columnist. A fair deal would be to make a million dollar investment in infrastructure - water, sewer, electricity, etc - in order for them to be successful. To give them 30 years of no taxes could easily cost this city in the range of $15 Million...so who's really smart when it comes to finanance now? Joe I have no doubt you'l be there tonight, the question is will it be under this name?

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Robert you are still ducking

Robert you are still ducking the questions are you saying then; that it is okay very much so to install an urban renewal measure as seen in Buffalo New York? Can you explain why the smaller thriving businesses in Lewiston have expanded in such a way under Jim Bennett? You also state rather then having a conference center which could attract or a motel. Tell me Robert where did you get that intelligent debating style of yours? Is this proof positive that you want to sink Lewiston further into the debt then it is already? A Hilton like whats in Auburn could bring more business into that center and offer millions in revenues Robert. Of course you debated the question regarding the stadium and rather then adopt more businesses and fundamentals to that center such as say Bob Dylan, Green Day, and oh yes Robert you were not the intelligent mind behind that were you. I will come to a Lewiston town hall meeting to ask for an impeachment vote, you show no knowledge in bringing businesses to Maine, and rather then admit say a Hilton to be built upon the Cowan mill you would rather have local businesses suffer to pay the clean up tax. It is nice knowing that someone without business knowledge and a prejudical face toward allowing newer businesses into town that; you let that colour judgment.

Joe Ziehm
Lewiston ME

There are two kinds of Republicans in this world moderate and conservative for so long I've picked the moderate that now it is time to consider the path less traveled.

Robert61's picture

Lewiston native, you are

Lewiston native, you are correct in assuming I would disagree. First as to educated people on council, I have a Bachelors degree and 20 years management experience in healthcare - I manage the day to day financial affairs of a company with annual revenues far exceeding the city budget, and in an industry much heavier regulated than municipal government. Last time I checked we had a lawyer on the council, I beleive that requires a bit of higher education, and at least 3 others with Bachelors degrees as well. So who is exactly are the uneducated you speak of? Second, your answers 1 & 2 are virtually the same, and that deal now has the city not owning the Colisee but still holding some $6 Million of debt on the building, in the private sector thats considered an uncollateralized loan. Yes, we will get $1.5M for the building eventually (over 15 years starting next year). The fire at the Cowan Mill gives even more credence to bringing down Mill %5, not less, the structural integrity is gone from the building, it cant even be used for cold storage anymore. Its just not safe. Every developer I have spoken with has indicated its the land underneath that has all the value, the buildign actually brings down the value due to its condition and the demolition that would be required. IT would cost about $65Million to rehab the building as a conference center but only $40 Million to build something new from scratch - can you live with sinkign an extra $25 Million into it just to keep the structure? I can't, regardless of what I want on that location.

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HAHA. This whole

HAHA. This whole conversation/debate is rather humorous. First off Lewiston needs to do something to keep/get educated people to stay in the city, so they can run for offices with such important as these. I have already gone on record with not agreeing with the city council because I feel in firing Bennett is just going to throw Lewiston in reverse. Everyone is asking what has Jim Bennett done for Lewiston. Why is no one asking what the city council has done for Lewiston? Other then argue with eachother, Bennett and at times with the Mayor. If nothing else Jim Bennett as helped clean up the image in which Lewiston has had to deal with for a long time.

Also, as for example as to how Jim Bennett helped Lewiston. 1. Buying the colisee. The place was a DUMP before the city aquired it, cleaning up the Colisee gave people a glimpse of something beautiful in the city (yes, there are others such as basilica) and was necessary in keeping the MaineIACS in Lewiston. 2. The Lewiston MaineIACS. As, previously stated they went on record as saying they would have left if the building wasn't upgraded, so in buying and upgrading the Colisee they kept the team here. Which the team helps bring in people from outside the L/A area to Lewiston. In doing so brings people who may eat at a local eatery, stay at a local hotel or maybe to even shop a little before a game. Let's face it the MaineIACS is one of the best things going for Lewiston at the moment. 3. Bates Mill #5. Regardless of what others may say and probably Robert will disagree with me. I believe it was a good thing to have kept it in control of the city of Lewiston. I'd rather have seen it stay up until we found a definite answer to whether something could be done with it. As, seen the past 2 weeks historic buildings that are the foundation of Lewiston are disappearing whether being burnt down or torn down.

Joseph's picture
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Here! Here!

Here! Here!

Robert61's picture

Muriel, might want to

Muriel, might want to re-read the headline...instead of allegations, try facts!

Robert61's picture

Muriel, unless you're a

Muriel, unless you're a traned psychologist/psychiatrist AND have examined any member of this council, I'd say lighten up a bit. While there is always room for good healthy debate, it becomes lost when people make such wild allegations. But then again maybe you make a good point, nope never mind, how could I think that, wait nope, you are right come to think of it...oh gosh being bi-polar is so difficult somedays.

Enoch's picture

Joseph - in one of your

Joseph - in one of your posts you mention the "Rain Tax" as being unpopular. It's a Stromwater FEE not a "Rain tax" (FEE not TAX), thus it can be imposed on the numerous non-profits that abound in this City. That Storwater fee of $40 or so for homeowners, if done away with, would translate to a $160 to $200 increase in a homeowners property tax bill. This Stromwater FEE was pure genius if you understand it, but because idiots see it separated out on their Water and Sewer Bills, they whine and complain and continue to remain ignorant.
As for this Council, I actually think we have several members who should be under Psychiatriac care, and I'm not trying to be funny about that comment.

Joseph's picture
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The "rain tax" called that

The "rain tax" called that by many who deem the FEE unpopular was something which I actually supported. I merely mentioned as something unpopular by many.

Robert F.'s picture

As unpopular as the rain

As unpopular as the rain (TAX) fee is, at least it is levied on all. Even if you rent, it is part of what makes up the cost of your rent. The blatantly unfair and discriminatory one is the trash (TAX) fee. This one is unfairly levied on the generally less affluent renters so that the generally more affluent home owners can get their trash picked up at no additional cost to them. Extraordinarily unfair and discriminatory. Another one of Bennett's machinations. Of course they get around this one by calling renters household trash "commercial" and home owners household trash "household" trash. HUH!

Rinoblast's picture

Aren't their bigger issues

Aren't their bigger issues here? This is a national trend that must be stopped! And the conspiracy goes all the way to the Oval Office! How dare that Barack Obama fire/have resign all but 1 cabinet member when he took office? And all he said was that he wanted change! The nerve!

Joseph's picture
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I'm sure you've figured out

I'm sure you've figured out by now that I'm ignoring you. However, please refer to another persons post listing the accomplishments of Mr. Bennett. I agree heartily with that post.

Robert61's picture

JOey, terminating a city

JOey, terminating a city administrator without cause, means there was no specific reason, no watershed event that occurred nor was there anything specvific that mr. Bennett did that was illegal, immoral or improper. It's like a vote of no confidence and a decision that someone new needs to lead this city. Thats my right as a councilor to decide and I did.

Bottom line, if any emeployee continues to tell me for 18 months "hey if you don't like it buy out the contract, then I will take them up on the offer. Its $75,000 well spent in my opinion.

But thanks for proving my point that no matter how much i try to explain my actions, there are people like you who either don't want to listen or have other reasons for acting ignorant to my rationale. You've asked for my reasons, I've given them, if you don't liek them, thats a different issue from not giving them. Again, no matter what i say it will never be good enough. It's like me asking you why you got out of bed today - no matter what you give for an answer I guarentee I can question it and make you look foolish.

Joseph's picture
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Reed. If you're referring

Reed. If you're referring to me (Joseph) than I must tell you that you're sarcastic reply by naming "Joey" is unprofessional and childish. As an elected official I expect you to be more than a mere petulant child when you respond to critics. I must tell you that if you voted to remove Mr. Bennett because of a "dare" than you're not only stupid, you're a sucker. In my estimation you made an expensive mistake by responding to playground tactics. You refer to your decisions as a councilor as a "right", well I hope voters will exercise their "right" to vote you out of office. Lewiston deserves and needs better than what you provide.

nbarry's picture
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I am trying to understand

I am trying to understand your answers. For instance, last week you wrote “I could take 6 months to fill the position which means 6 months you don't pay a new person - making this budget NEUTRAL.”

When I asked how you calculated budget neutral (did not make sense to me), I did not receive a response.

In TCT and today in LSJ comments you insinuated there were direct performance issues with Mr. Bennett. I never saw a concise list which is what I expected. Read one example of not creating a festival workgroup then referring us on to agendas and meeting minutes. That’s it… and as far as Festivals go I feel the Council felt the need to get directly involved in the Balloon Festival.

I agree with Joseph and LSJ, these issues should be listed and shared for the community to review. If, in fact, there were real performance issues.

Now, I read ‘Bottom line, if any emeployee continues to tell me for 18 months "hey if you don't like it buy out the contract, then I will take them up on the offer. Its $75,000 well spent in my opinion.’ (I am leaving the spell error in due to quotation)

This contradicts your today’s earlier justification (performance expectations.) And also contradicts “Budget Neutral” from last week.

Again, just trying to understand. Obviously, I feel it should not be this hard to translate.

Joseph's picture
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Robert61, I read the Twin

Robert61, I read the Twin City Times article and as well, your letter to the editor and not contained in either article were clear reasons for Bennett's dismissal. Other than your dislike of Bennett's management style. Actually, that's not the issue here. Your lack of forthright answers however is the issue. Your vague explanations are the problem. Your stubborn refusal to list exact reasons for voting to dismiss Bennett leads anyone to believe that your decision was based more on a professional dislike, rather than any other reason. An open mind is only open when there is equal dialog in a discussion. Which is something seriously lacking in your case. You will continue to have your feet held to the fire over the coming weeks for your participation in the removal of Bennett. I hope you do a better job than you're doing right now.

Rinoblast's picture

You may want to re-read the

You may want to re-read the TCT article. I found 18 reasons why the two councilors felt Bennet should be let go. It seems to me that it is like they said, "there was no watershed moment," but rather a litany of things. Don't forget that 3 others councilors agreed that their view of the city was different enough from Bennet's to warrant the move.

Robert61's picture

Joseph, would you like to

Joseph, would you like to see all the emails between myself and the editorial staff on Thursday andFriday. They do not want to hear my answers they simply want to sensationalize a story. The Twin City Times sent an invite for any councilor to sit down and have an open discussion which two of us decided to take up the offer. LSJ did not such thing.

Bottom line is that no matter what i say or do, those who beleive we were wrong will NEVER be satiisfied with our answers because they are not willing to have an open mind. You want to ask honest open questions be my guest, but if all you're going to do is decide my answers are not good enough, then why should I waste my breath any more?

nbarry's picture
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If you consider yourself a

If you consider yourself a professional, I would think mending fences with LSJ would be most productive. At the very least, curbing the inappropriate comments I’ve read from you on this site and Face Book. LSJ will still be publishing long past your 15 minutes of fame; it is the publication this community relies upon.

Joseph's picture
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Here! Here!

Here! Here!

Joseph's picture
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Publish your letter here

Publish your letter here Reed. Your assertion that the SJ wouldn't publish your letter because of an errant 30 days is a little bit of a limp excuse. I'm more than certain the SJ would be more than pleased to hear from you. So why don't you try again? As their editorial clearly points out, they're more than eager to hear from you.

Robert61's picture

Why is it people tend to

Why is it people tend to forget the good economic work done by Greg Mitchell as well as by LAEGC? Seems we're not having much economic development in Lewiston since mr. Mithcell left, but Auburn is, much by George Schott, and who is doing some work for him? Why look it's Mr. Mitchell...hmmmm, place credit where credit is due.

Robert61's picture

JOseph, I did write the

JOseph, I did write the letter but chose to have it published in another publication. The LSJ has a policy of one letter every 30 days and thus would not have been able to publish my letter for a few weeks given they had recently published one. You can read it online if you wish.

Joseph's picture
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Watch your mouth Publik.

Watch your mouth Publik. Mr. Bennett (not one of my favs) managed the city of Lewiston during the largest period of renewal since the turn of the previous century. Under his leadership and encouragement, the face of Lewiston changed for the better, tearing away the ugly face of Lewiston's waterfront to what we see now. Lewiston has improved by leaps and bounds over the years in large part to Bennett's leadership. And as well, some of the most unpopular events as well. ie: The "rain tax". But regardless of whether or not anyone supports Bennett, the question at hand is what interests me; the reasons behind Bennett's removal. And the two which say the most in public but explain the least are Reed and Theriault. To insist they provide a more clear perspective is a perfectly reasonable question. And since Reed is such a faithful contributor to this site, I find it reasonable to insist the question. And as such, I find his reasons unacceptable, lazy and glib. And now let's here it for "publik" who shall now tear me apart via every crass word possible. Go to it publik!

Joseph's picture
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Your ego is astounding if it

Your ego is astounding if it weren't so laughable. Regardless of whether or not I live in Lewiston now is hardly the issue. As a matter of fact, I lived in Lewiston for years, only leaving LA recently. Finding flattery in controversy is amusing as you mention but still does not excuse your glaring lack of common sense. Let Lewiston's voters decide whether you're doing a good job or not. And for me, I hope they vote for somebody who can write clearly and explains themselves and their actions with candor. In the meantime, why don't you write a letter to the editor? Explain your participation in the removal of Mr. Bennett. Explain your accomplishments. Share your vision for the future of Lewiston and avoid your childish complaints. You're not being bullied. As a city councilor, you should be able and prepared to be questioned. So get busy.

Robert61's picture

Joseph, I do my job well,and

Joseph, I do my job well,and I watched for 18 months before deciding it wa time to remove Mr. Bennett. But I am curious why so many people from outside Lewiston suddenyl think they can bully me and tell me what to do, gosh I find that amusing, but I'm also flatetred by all the attention and looking forward to a November election and exposing some of the phoniness of candidates running.

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As usual Robert61. Glib and

As usual Robert61. Glib and smarmy. The Sun Journal is accurate in challenging you to offer up facts. So do that, rather than your evasive and "quite frankly" lazy approach to an answer. Do your job Reed.

Robert61's picture

The answers are right in

The answers are right in front of everyone, just pick up all the public agenda notices for the past 18 months, there are no secrets folks, figure it out, watch the recorded sessions that you can purchase at city hall (sorry, trying to raise revenue to keep property taxes in check).

T's picture

"The answers are right in

"The answers are right in front of everyone, just pick up all the public agenda notices for the past 18 months"

You're avoiding the issue. You're being evasive. You're being a politician.

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Councilor . . . do your job.

Councilor . . . do your job. The community you serve expects you to convey information clearly and in detail. Something you endlessly fall short upon. The Sun Journal does not owe you an apology and further, your bruised feelings only indicate what another commenter accurately points out. That you point the finger to distract from the fact that you're ill-prepared, ill-informed and incompetent. The communities eyes are upon you and expect and deserve form all members of the council a detailed explanation for Bennett's removal. Telling them to review council meeting minutes is not the answer. Once again . . . DO YOUR JOB.

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First, while we are paying

First, while we are paying Mr. Bennett, keep in mind we are having Phil step into an acting role, thus we only pay 1 salary for 2 positions, the ONLY time it will cost Lewiston mroe money is the time from the hire of the new administrator through the time Mr. bennett had left in the year. In reality, it takes 4-6 months to find a capable administrator through this process, thus you'll pay extra for 5-7 months, not the entire year.

As to the allegations, yes i think the LSJ owes me a big apology. If anyone wants to know exactly what I was "alledging" all they have to do is gather up every agenda for the past 18 months, see all the action items piling up at the end of the agenda that we as councilors wanted to take car of and see how few actually got taken care of. Example - we should not have had as many issues on how much and what to give various festivals as we asked for a workshop on that in the previous year discussions. So all those items built up and were never put on an agenda, set by the administrator. Time for an apology from the LSJ, but I won't hold my breath

T's picture

"most people giving Reed and

"most people giving Reed and Theriault trouble are people that have been members for less than a day"

Relevance?

AllarieLarsen's picture

Robert61 is it true Lewiston

Robert61 is it true Lewiston will not only have to fulfill Mr. Bennett's $110,000 contract, but now the city of Lewiston will have to pay a second salary to the new administrator? Who thought that was good math?

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Councilor, I don’t think

Councilor, I don’t think the Sun Journal is running Mr. Bennett’s name through the mud but simply asking for reasons as to why you fired a good man. I don’t live in Lewiston anymore but I can see the good that Mr. Bennett has done for Lewiston making the tough decisions that needed to be made. All I can say is Lewiston’s loss is going to be somebody else’s HUGE gain. You ruined one of the best things to come along for Lewiston in long time.

Robert61's picture

Make it clear, the LSJ is

Make it clear, the LSJ is accusing Bennett of misconduct, not myself or Councilor Theriault. They have decided that is the level or definition, not I.

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Nowhere in the article does

Nowhere in the article does the LSJ accuse Bennett of misconduct. Why doesn't the good councillor simply tell us (never mind the inuendos of the last 18 months), just tell us why he voted to oust Bennett. What was the reason or reasons? Be specific, please, sir. We, as taxpayers and your employers, have a right to know.

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Come on Councilor Reed you

Come on Councilor Reed you have been the most arrogent person on that council that I have seen! During the Joint services process you made allogations that the information was wrong however once it was explained to you, you not only backed off but supported the process. Here again you have made a huge blunder, you do not understand public policy and chose to cover up your lack of understanding by putting the blame squarely on the only other person you could.

Robert61's picture

Here's a fact - the Sun

Here's a fact - the Sun Journal was scooped on this story, much like they were scooped on knowing who the final candidates were for the Auburn City Manager position. Their reaction here is remarkably similar....someone needs to explain that when you use sour graps, all you get is Whine.

It's sad that the LSJ wishes to run Jim Bennett through the mud by continuing to rehash this story.

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Let me get this

Let me get this straight...all but two councillors vote to can Bennett and it's the Journal's fault for mud-slinging? What the heck am I missing here? Like most Piarates, I only have one eye, but it's a damn good one, and I'm not liking what I see here. I get the bad blood between Theriault, Bennett and Reed. I get the animous between Reed and the Sun Journal. But guess what? None of us still knows why Bennett was fired, and that, I don't get.

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