Nothing positive to add

Kudos to David Marquis for his excellent and truthful letter, March 13.

The twisted ideology and misleading information from the media, especially from the far right and left is shameful. Their only interest is to improve their ratings and not the truth.

Many people blame the current Obama administration for all the problems in this country. Where were these people during the previous administration?

When the Clinton administration left office, it handed over a budget that operated in the black and cut down the federal deficit. Their system worked.

The Bush administration left office and handed the current administration a $550 billion deficit, along with other major issues. Their system did not work.

Now we have these same hypocritical Republicans having issues with the current spending in Washington? These are the same people who have dug in their heels, refused to pass any legislation (even legislation they have proposed) and are content in having this country remain stagnant while they threaten to filibuster all legislation and focus only on their next election.

They have nothing positive to add, but have all types of excuses why it won’t work, all the while ignoring the American people.

They don’t seem to have any issues with spending American tax dollars to do nothing, although it adds to the same deficit they are screaming about.

It’s time to get rid of the hypocritical clowns in Washington and not add to them. Let’s bring back common sense in this country and get something done.

Ray Demers, Lisbon

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Barb's picture

If Obama is so above board

If Obama is so above board why does he have to hide the bill from the public and have his cronies cut deals behind closed doors to get this bill passed? If this bill is so great why the secrecy? Where is Obama's transparency? Examples of Obama chicago style politics include buying off people for this health care bill, public battles with Rush Limbaugh and Fox news. Obama gave favorable terms to the pharmacutical companies in turn for them backing health care.

We do know that in this health care bill 500 billion will be cut from Medicare.(will the dems really dare to do this or end up borrowing the money?) This bill includes 400 billion in new taxes. Taxpayer funded abortions. Health care for illegal aliens and watch as we have an influx of illegals cross the border for all the freebees. You will pay more for health care and your quality of health care will go down. Rationing. More and more jobs will go overseas. A goverment panel will decide your end of life care. Dr Death (the government) will have the right to tell you to die if they deem that you are to old or it is to expensive to save you.  You will get to see the exploding deficits as the country is bankrupted by Obama care.

Sorry Veritas I am not a criminal but got a threatening phone call from a liberal loon after writing a letter to the editor. I know how crazy some liberals are as I see how angry they are in this forum. Joe, if you think this health care plan is good for the country then you have to be suffering from delusions.

Voisine's picture

Unlike RepubliCONS, Democrats have COURAGE!

Barb,  newsflash to you but Democrats aren't just about polls, they're about achieving outcomes to benefit the majority Americans.  That's something cowardly RepubliCONS and their IGNORANT sheep followers can't fathom.

rstonge's picture
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your are right

voisine, I do see the Democrats have courage. I takes a lot of courage to destroy a country. But please, keep your ignoRANTS to yourself. With your name calling you prove you have nothing to offer but ignoRANTS.

Voisine's picture

RepubliCONS Revealed ... FINALLLY

The fact that RepubliCONS and their ignorant "followers" are floating a completely FALSE e-mail with many FALSE claims about health care reform is more evidence the party is little more than a criminal enterprise.  How could it ever have been anything but, sticking up for insurance companies driving this country into the ground.  It's astonishing that some are so ignorant that they actually believe that not allowing companies to destroy America is socialism.  Just goes to show that the flip side, allowing companies to destroy America as Republicans want, is a concept too complex for ignorant RepubliCONS to grasp.

We know the enemies of American and they are within the party of Richard M. Nixon, George Bush and Dick "Six Deferment" Cheney.

By the way worthless RepubliCONS, Bush and Cheney were proven to have ordered the Delta Force in Afghanistan to allow Bin Laden's escape into Pakistan.  Why?  Because they're corrupt and wanted to keep using Bin Laden and terrorism as a catch all ecuse to shred the Constitution for the profit of their Republican boosting companies.

Thankfully, we have a brilliant President in Barack Obama who will have accomplished HISTORIC change to BENEFIT the American people, and even RepubliCONS will benefit, though they are too far down the rabbit hole of their own fantasies and fears to know or understand that fact.

As for RepubliCONS "repealing" this health care legislation ... right, let them tell American mom's and dad's that their kids aren't going to be covered anymore; let them tell Americans with pre-existing conditions that they're going to be kicked off plans again; and let them tell American small business that we're back to an unsustainable system of 40% increases a year.

America should be for Americans, not the most crass, well-connected wealthy that own the RepubliCON party.  Republicans believe in communism for the wealthy: OLIGARCHY!

Republicans: Ignorant. Clueless. Worthless.

Barb's picture

The Demon crats

and their corrupt leader, who has worked his chicago strong armed politics, has helped his cronies Reid and Polosi cut many back room deals. Obama's latest being Dennis Kucinish on a 45 minute flight. Obama tells Kucinish that not to worry this pig of a health care plan will insure a public option down the road which changes Kucinish's vote  from no to yes. Today there will be more major arm twisting , threats and whatever deals it takes to change the mind on any democrat that considers voting no.  The majority of the American people do NOT want a new entitlement program,but it doesn't matter as the dems will push forward and use any illegal means in the book to push this bill through.Obama and his corrupt party are ignoring the will of the people and come Nov. they will suffer a rude awakening.

 

veritas's picture
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So Barb - tell us about the

So Barb - tell us about the "Chicago Strong Armed Politics" that you know Obama worked....

I personally know some Illinois politicians who've wound up in 'Club Fed' - one's still there.

Perhaps you didn't register your name here due to criminal connections?

 

tron's picture

the truth

Americans are splitt 50/50 on health reform, except for the phony FOX News?? Randomuse poll.   Let's hope the Democrats use every trick learn from the Republicans to get this done.   Remember a very different and better piece of legislation would be passed if the Republicans would allow an up or down vote on a conference bill, but since the party of NO refuses, they force the tactics Democrats are using.  Will the American people realize that the Republicans refuse to help America?  We'll see.

rstonge's picture
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check other polls

Well, checked Gallup's poll from the beginning of the month and it was 48-45 against the bill.

Republicans are trying to keep the country from going over the edge. Tron, Republicans are NOT OPPOSED to health care reform. No matter how many times you repeat it, it will not make it so. Republicans are opposed to this particular incrediably bad piece of legislation.

I know you believe the government is the answer, but it is not. Government is the problem.

tron's picture

the poll

you cite is within the margin of error, as is every poll, Americans is pretty evenly divide on this issue.   Republican do NOT want to improve health care, since they've  opposed it every time it has been brought, first by President Clinton,  now President Obama.  During the eight years of their stranglehold on American politics they did NOTHING.  Get that, they did NOTHING.  Now they say they have all sorts of ideas if only the Democrats would start anew.  Well the American people believes that tripe for only so long, and, as a patriotic American and a Democrat, I do not believe the republicans anymore.  IF they truly believed in health reform, they would allow a straight up or down vote on a conference report.  They don't have to vote for it, but just allow a vote.  Doesn't that seem like the American way of doing things?

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I guess we will have to wait

I guess we will have to wait until November. My prediction is the Democrats will lose the House and will have an extremely small majority in the Senate. Since this will only hurt the economy, President Obama will be a one term President and the Republicans will then have both Chambers and will push to undo this disastrous legislation.

Voisine's picture

Joke RepubliCONS

Let's not forget that it was Republicans who took Clinton's surplus and turned it into the largest federal deficit in history (adding what Obama had to do just to stabalize the banking system, which is also on the heads of Republicans).  Since they brought us to the brink of a Great Depression, why wouldn't anyone believe they could fix health care?!  Right?!!

Voisine's picture

Why Republicans Hide From Reality

SonofTron,

     Talk about "first sentence," you merely brand yourself as someone who doesn't want to process facts.  It is why Republicans need Fox "Republican" News, because they need a way to turn from REALITY and live within their warm, ignorant bubble where facts they can't or don't want to accept are "liberal bias."

     No wonder Republicans spent so much money developing sophisticated linguistical approaches to campaigning, which explains why you simply pass off the world as "liberal" or in any number of simplistic ways.  Just offering you guideposts and overly simple means of completely dismissing complex issues is a Republican means of controlling their "base."

     Of course, the RepubliCON base needs simple black-and-white ways of digesting issues, they are patholotically scared and disoriented by complexity.  That's pretty much been proven in scientific studies.  Want me to cut and paste some of them??  Oh no, it's too much for you to bear Mr. Brave RepubliCON, go watch Fox "RepubliCON" News, they'll tell you what to believe.

Voisine's picture

Republicans Couldn't Care Less About Working Americans

Health Care Reform Myths Peddled by Desperate Republicans -- They're Desperate Only for Their Political Fortunes (They couldn't care less about working Americans!)

1. The House Health Care Bill Mandates or Encourages Euthanasia

At a tele-town hall meeting with members of the senior advocacy group AARP last month, President Obama could not help but describe one question he received as "kind of morbid."

"I have been told there is a clause in (the health care bill) that everyone that's Medicare age will be visited and told to decide how they wish to die," said a caller named Mary from North Carolina. "This bothers me greatly, and I'd like for you to promise me that this is not in this bill."

There is nothing in any health care reform bill before Congress that would require people to "decide how they wish to die." Conservative talking points from activists and legislators, however, would suggest otherwise.

Voisine's picture

Republicans Don't Accept Reality

Republicans are the DISASTER, of course, for them disaster is purely political.  To their sheep followers, it's fine that we have 40% health insurance increases just about every year driving this country into the ground.

For Republicans, reality is never the issue ... clearly.

As for "cutting and pasting," they're called FACTS, something very freightening to RepubliCONS, we know.

Republican: Worthless by choice!

Voisine's picture

Republicans are the REAL Freak Show

The real reason repugs dont want the bill to pass Utah Republican Senator Orrin Hatch warned his Republican allies that that a victory for President Obama would earn his party the thanks of a grateful public and guarantee Democratic majorities for the foreseeable future. In an interview with CNS Monday, Senator Hatch revealed that was his darkest fear as well: "And if they get there, of course, you're going to have a very rough time having a two-party system in this country, because almost everybody's going to say, "All we ever were, all we ever are, all we ever hope to be depends on the Democratic Party."

Republican: The REAL Freak Show

rstonge's picture
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half the effort

voisine, if you would put half the effort in do actually finding out what is going on and not waste time cutting and pasting the same comment on all the stories, you might actually see the Republicans are trying to same the country from the disaster the the Democrats are pushing us towards.

SonOfTron's picture

typical

voisine is a typical liberal. I'm sure he is just repeating the email he and tron get. Dems good. Republicans bad. Not an original thought between the two of them.

Of course he lost all credibility when he cannot get through the first sentence without name calling. I guess that is what you do when you have nothing worth saying.

momof4's picture

stimulus

Yeah ,tron, the stimulus was a huge success.  Did great things to create jobs, huh?  Some get paid to be couch potatos.  Spending ourselves out of DEBT oughta work.  Although healthcare reform will provide jobs to 116 agents who will be hired to police the piece of sh*t scheme.  Those of us who DO work are gonna have to work harder, faster, more hours to provide gravy for the train...

taxpayer's picture

VOTE LIBERTARIAN!!! DR. RON

VOTE LIBERTARIAN!!! DR. RON PAUL 2012!!!

Voisine's picture

Joke RepubliCONS

The Bush administration didn't "fight terrorism," they lied America into an unnecessary and COSTLY war of choice in Iraq!  For what?  To satisfy some neo-con fantasy about inflicting American will upon the Middle East?  To gain "control" of oil fields in the Middle East.  The latter for usre, the former likely.

So now RepuliCONS are using the same old excuses, saying they don't want to spend, when their war in Iraq and tax cuts for the wealthy that did NOTHING for the U.S. economy dwarfed what this health care bill will cost. 

Republicans are worthless.

rstonge's picture
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WOW

Voisine, it is obvious you can see history clearly. Please go back and look. Who claimed Saddam had WMDs? Saddam did. He never denied it.

As for tax cuts, please go back and look at the country in 1980,  double digit interest rates, double digit unemployment, high inflation. President Reagan came in, cut taxes, the economy turned around.

Voisine's picture

Worthless RepubliCONS

First of all, Republicans wouldn't even allow Democrats into conference committees to shape the final form of bills when Bush was President with his Republican majority. Secondly, Republicans ought to do some research before he offers false GOP talking points. The bill allows for purchase of insurance across state lines. In fact, there are lots of aspects of this bill that were ideas offered by Republicans ... errr ... until they realized that their ideas were actually being incorporated into this bill ... then they were against the very ideas they offered! Imagine that, Republicans who don't act with honesty and good faith! I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!

kj's picture
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Who't to blame.

"Many people blame the current Obama administration for all the problems in this country"

I don't blame the Obama administration for all the problems in this country but I do blame him for being a single issue president for the first 15 months of his presidency.  I also blame him for trying to ram the health care bill down our throats.  From the beginning the process has been shady and now it's just getting ridiculous.

BobStone's picture
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No Worries Tron

Tron apparently sits home and posts all day on his computer.  He's probably among the 45% of American households who pay no federal income tax.  The rest of us are signing off to get ready for work to support Tron.

The 55% of us pulling the wagon that Tron is riding on are getting pretty tired of it.

As for Ray Demers, well, there are no pills for Bush Derangement Syndrome.  Maybe it will wear off with time.

Gotta go to work!  See ya posts tonite, Tronnie!

 

 

dxs0ttq's picture

Ray is your memory really


Ray is your memory really that short... 9-11 happened! Money had to be spent to secure the US, fight terrorism. I know you and Tron think that the money would have been better spent on supporting illegal's and giving anyone who isn't an American free college education. Although there are a many of us who are grateful that there hasn't been any more 9-11's here in the US.

veritas's picture
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Dean - 9/11 wasn't an ATM for

Dean - 9/11 wasn't an ATM for Bush......

C'mon.  The U.S. Defense Budget accounts for just about half of the world's total military spending -

And we couldn't stop nineteen whacked-out religious nut-jobs from killing almost 3,000 on U.S. soil??

It's not a question of spending MORE money, but in spending our money wiser.

And not starting stupid wars that waste money and lives over BS.

Old Bill's picture

Veritas, 9-11 wasn't a

Veritas, 9-11 wasn't a failure of the Department of Defense.  Unless I'm mistaken, it was a failure by the Intelligence agencies and federal Law Enforcement.  DoD wasn't included in most of what the CIA and NSA do until the formation of the Department of Homeland Security - AFTER 9-11.  So, your talking point about the Pentagon budget is moot.

veritas's picture
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John Kerry was castigated for

John Kerry was castigated for stating 9/11 was a Law Enforcement Issue....

He wasn't wrong after all.

We historically had many Fiefdoms of alphabet soup initials all unwilling to share information (and in many cases, unable to do so even if willing.)

In the law enforcement and Intel communties - 'Knowledge is Power' - and once that knowledge or intel is shared, that agency, office, or team has psychologically 'relinquished' power.  It's a self-defeating attitude, but one maintained nonetheless that harms all involved.  Unfortunately, there's some real egos involved - or at least were - when I was involved with 'information handling.'

But reference DOD.

Just who is it that we're threatened by that we require a Navy the size of the next thirteen Navies in size?  Etc, etc, ad infinatum.  

tron's picture

Hypocrites equal republicans

There was a report issued yesterday that 113 republicans who voted AGAINST the stimulus package  ponied  up to the trough to get hunks of change for their districts.  They condemned it and voted against it on one hand then held out the other to rake it in.  How can the American people trust a republican, when they are so two faced?

veritas's picture
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What??  Have they no

What??  Have they no shame????

tron's picture

Apparently Not

To be fair there were two democrats who voted against the stimulus bill who also ponied up to get stimulus bucks.  What makes it even more outrageous are the republicans who touted that they brought home the bacon without ever being challenged by FOX News.  So much for fair and balanced.

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