It's a bad thing

Passage of the health care bill is a bitter pill to have to swallow.

It seems nothing the people say amounts to a hill of beans to the representatives anymore. I guess this country has seen its better days. It's all downhill from here. Why even bother any more, folks?

I hope those people who are for that health care bill know exactly what is about to come down on us all. Medicare is going bankrupt; Medicaid is going bankrupt; we can really afford this, can't we?

I could go on about why it's a bad thing, but why bother?

I guess now people will just have to see for themselves. Better bring a book while you are waiting in line — you'll need it. A nice long novel should do the trick.

Clem Bechard, Lewiston

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cranky yankee's picture

Hitler comparison

It seems that the Republi-CONS are rather fond of comparing President Obama to Hitler. Might I remind you that Hitler and his followers were conservatives. The only thing socialist about them was the name of their organization. They were against Jews, homosexuals, blacks, Roma, Slavs, the mentally and physically disabled, social outcasts, and most other minorities. Wonder which party this resembles?

Mac antSaior's picture
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A Socialist would be a breath

A Socialist would be a breath of fresh air. At least Socialists require equality among the working class. Democrats stand for the rich and entitled classes. The reference to Hitler comes from the near hysteria that his followers show in flocking to his side no matter how inane the words are that come from his mouth. This "health crisis" is the greatest crisis that never was and was fully concocted to draw attention away from other failed promises.

Scotty_O's picture

Answer

Um, I'll take a stab at that one... it resembles a Dinner Party at Senator Robert C. Byrds house.  What do I win?

Lil's picture
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representative government

Democrats won solid majorities in both the house and the senate. Obama ran on health care reform and was elected with a solid majority. The major HCR bill passed the senate with 60 votes. Sounds to me like they're doing exactly what the majority  elected them to do.

Pirate's picture
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How's obama's approval rating

How's obama's approval rating now?

Lil's picture
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Not bad...

According to the Gallup Daily Tracking poll, he's doing alright. 51% approve, 44% disapprove. http://bit.ly/lS4ZF  And pollster.com has him at 51.4% and 42.2%.

veritas's picture
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He should be one of the 'Popular Kids?'

How's Obama's  'Approval Rating?'

Good enough, Pirate - thanks for asking.

We didn't elect him to be one of the 'Popular Kids' - just to do what's right.  And he has.

 

Pirate's picture
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I think a learned sage such

I think a learned sage such as yourself would agree that that assessment would depend entirely on an individual's perspective.

thinkingman's picture

I think the question was as

I think the question was as to his "approval" ratings, not his "popularity" ratings....and his approval ratings currently are some of the worst ever seen by a sitting president at this point in his oval office career.

veritas's picture
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You Go - 'Bama!!!!

If he wasn't pissing you and the rest of the the Regressive Neanderthals off- he wouldn't be doing his job.....

 

 

Brian_L's picture

Man this would make an

Man this would make an awesome movie. 

Mac antSaior's picture
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Hitler had the backing of the

Hitler had the backing of the majority once.

SonOfTron's picture

slight difference

slight difference though, hitler managed to get the olympics.

Pirate's picture
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LOL

LOL

thinkingman's picture

Good answer son!

Good answer son!

xyz's picture

Internet police internet police where are you mainexlax

He did not post a link... he did not post a link..................... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa he did not post a link.

http://www.doczero.org/2010/03/the-parable-of-the-satellite-dish/

http://www.theresmytwocents.com/

http://annoiato.blogstream.com/

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2010/03/25/the-parable-of-the-satel...

http://brokencontrollers.com/the-parable-of-the-satellite-dish-laquo-doc...

All based on the sky is falling scenario. Don't worry mainexlax I got your back and covered it for you.

mainexile's picture

Give credit to the author

deimos, while your post is a very well-written analogy of the current healthcare debacle (and one that will certainly draw the usual derogatory comments from the usual liberal/progressive/socialist denizens of this forum), you did not write it.  It would be hypocritical of me to stand silent when you fail to give proper credit to the original author but excoriate the lefties when they do the same thing.  Therefore, putting aside the excellent, thinly-veiled denouncement of the monstrous health care legislation, I must take issue with your illegitimate use of another's original work without giving proper acknowledgement to the creator.  Please edit your post to cite the source.

thinkingman's picture

While I'd normally agree, I

While I'd normally agree, I must point out that renters do inf act pick up their share, the landlord is likely to increase the cost of rent just as they do with taxes going up. The only exception would be for those on fixed into and subsidized rent, in that case, just like with the health care debate, the other members would pick up the costs for that person by a redistribution of taxes incurred.

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Imagine a large condominium

Imagine a large condominium complex is meeting to consider a package deal with a cable TV company. Over eighty percent of the condo owners have their own satellite dishes, and are quite happy with the service. Some of them don’t bother to watch television at all, preferring to rent movies from Blockbuster or Netflix for entertainment. However, the condominium Board of Directors says they’re getting a lot of complaints from the residents who don’t have satellite dishes, demanding the condo association purchase a cable TV package, and fold its cost into the monthly homeowner dues.

The homeowners already pay extremely high dues, and they’re not happy with the quality of service they receive. They also notice that most of the people clamoring for cable television aren’t even homeowners – they’re renters, so they don’t pay the association fees directly. The condo owners already host regular movie nights at the clubhouse, which also has a well-stocked library, so no one is truly starved for entertainment. Still, the owners feel guilty that anyone has to make do without TV service in their home, so they invite a cable company to give them a sales pitch.

The cable company, BFD Communications, produces an incredibly complicated plan for providing cable television service to the community. The plan is thousands of pages long, and no one even claims to have read the whole thing. They spend the weeks leading up to the big board meeting pestering all of the residents with relentless advertising for their services, covering doorknobs and windshields with brochures. Their presentation at the board meeting is several hours long.

BFD Communications explains that purchasing their service will require a lifetime contract, which can never be broken. The condo residents will be required to deal exclusively with BFD for their entertainment needs – all satellite dishes must go, and even the library will fall under their control. The contract will include funding for a large corporate security force, which will ensure compliance by issuing fines for illegal satellite dishes, or attempts to smuggle rented movies into the development. As this feature of the contract is being explained to the homeowners, a large screen behind the BFD representatives is flashing slogans like “BFD Enhances Competition!” and “BFD Saves You Money!”

The cable TV contract will be fantastically expensive. Curiously, while it is a lifetime contract, the company refuses to discuss the fee schedule beyond the first ten years. An intrepid homeowner studies the contract and discovers the costs double after ten years… and this assessment was prepared by CBO Auditing, a firm which has underestimated the cost of every contract it has ever reviewed. The condo Board rules that only the ten-year projections matter, and the intrepid homeowner is asked to leave the meeting.

Other homeowners announce they’ve been researching BFD Communications, and discovered it has never been able to deliver promised services at the contracted price. Every single project the company has undertaken experienced enormous cost overruns, and delivered poor quality to its customers. Every time a smaller competitor has been allowed to bid against them, the competitor’s price and performance were superior – that’s why BFD demands exclusive lifetime contracts. The people who make this announcement are told their input is not welcome, and asked to leave the meeting.

A resident asks what different packages BFD will offer. She has small children, so she would like educational programming, but she has no interest in premium movie channels, shopping networks, or morally offensive shows. The cable company explains that only one package will be offered. Its purchase will be mandatory, and the high price of its many channels will be charged to all residents.  A senile old man in the audience claims the BFD executives promised him there would never be any morally offensive programming.

This prompts an angry homeowner to leap from his seat, waving a portion of the gigantic cable TV contract… which says the members of the condo Board of Directors are exempt from the restrictions, along with some of their friends! They can rent movies, purchase high quality satellite service, and avoid having the exorbitant fees for BFD tacked onto their monthly dues.

A loud argument breaks out in the meeting area, with angry residents howling that they want no part of this terrible deal. These people are told their anger disqualifies them from further participation in the meeting, and they are asked to leave.

The remaining critics of the deal suggest that other alternatives should be explored. There are less expensive entertainment options to consider, and since none of them require lifetime commitments, wouldn’t it make sense to try them first?

The Board of Directors insists that the BFD contract must be signed immediately. It’s simply appalling that anyone in the development should endure a single day without entertainment. Why, all of the surrounding condo developments have already signed up with BFD! They all have appalling service and frequent TV blackouts, they’re all broke, and they borrow security officers from our development to keep their streets safe… but their Boards of Directors all laugh at us for refusing to provide BFD cable service to our residents, and our Board is tired of their mockery. The BFD executives mention that no one will actually receive any cable services for five years, but their fees will begin right away.

The meeting ends with the Board of Directors ignoring the demands of homeowners and voting for that lifetime contract with BFD. The residents leave the meeting hall wondering how they reached the point where a small group of Board members, up for re-election over the next couple of years, were able to ignore the clear wishes of the residents and saddle them with a lifetime contract.

Here are some lessons to ponder from the Parable of the Satellite Dish:

Never accept permanent solutions that are nearly impossible to change, when simpler and more easily modified plans are available.  It’s foolish to let the advocates of permanent programs dismiss flexible alternatives before they have been tried.

A proposal that requires you to ignore both the past and the future is a swindle, not a solution.

Free people do not accept restrictions from which their government is exempt. This is one of the differences between leaders and rulers.

A demand for commitment without a guarantee of performance is domination, not service.

When free people are told something is “inevitable,” their response should be an immediate and overwhelming refusal to accept it. Inevitability is a self-fulfilling prophecy in the absence of resistance. Freedom is the never-ending quest for alternatives.

The people who loudly celebrate “diversity” keep coming up with universal plans. Their State is a giant who trims citizens to fit its bed, using rusty implements. The giant, the bed, and the implements were all equal sins in the eyes of our Founders. They come as a set.

When the State refuses to let you debate the terms of its plans individually, you can rest assured the whole is worse than the sum of its parts.

Freedom requires the courage to avoid being stampeded. You should ask more questions about something you are told is an “essential right.” Sober reflection is a hallmark of maturity. A wise State would not require its citizens to act like children.

The State cannot give you anything worth having. You’ll eventually find yourself guilty of the crime of wanting more. As the State fails to live up to its promises, it will be increasingly tempted to convict you of that crime… in advance.

Pirate's picture
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Nice, but too long...the

Nice, but too long...the parrot fell asleep while reading it.

Queenie's picture
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Monty Python skit?

Remember that Monty Python skit, "Dead Parrot"? Thanks for the chuckle, Pirate.

p.s. I consider myself liberal in some things but this health scare bill is for the birds. Oops. No pun intended.

jchick's picture
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At least...

the people in your parable can move to another condo if they don't want to pay for the over-priced-badly-though-out cable deal.

John Chick
Monmouth, ME

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." --Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816. ME 14:384

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