FARMINGTON — As town officials and police received calls seeking to stop a scheduled topless march planned for April 30, the student planning the event strolled topless through downtown streets Wednesday.
Andrea Simoneau, 22, left her post at the corner of Broadway and Main Street and nonchalantly walked down Main across South Street and up High Street wearing only a long skirt and the words “Freedom” written across her chest. The date, time and place of the march were written in pink across her back.
Simoneau and some friends attended a similar march in Portland earlier this month where she said she felt empowered and wanted to extend that to women in Farmington. She said she wanted to accomplish two things: to let women know it's not illegal to go topless in Maine and to expose the double standard applied to women who want to appear bare-chested in public.
The University of Maine at Farmington senior was also downtown topless on Saturday passing out fliers to promoting the march. Some people were supportive, Simoneau said. But police got numerous calls from motorists and people on the street who were offended by the demonstration.
Town officials and legislative leaders have since received calls, many from people who were upset and angry, seeking a stop to the march.
Although not listed as an item on the selectmen meeting agenda Tuesday night, three residents waited through a lengthy meeting to voice their concerns about the event.
“I'm concerned with this going on in our town," Max Yates told the board. "I'm concerned for children and families. It's a family-value issue and it is inappropriate.”
He said he was worried that the 1 p.m. march was near the time for school buses to appear.
Yates went on to urge the board to adopt a nudity ordinance similar to those adopted in other towns. He passed out copies of Rumford's nudity ordinance adopted in 1996 to “define what constitutes public nudity, regulate where it may occur, establish enforcement procedures for violating where it may occur and provide civil penalties for said violations.”
Board members said the measure could not be adopted prior to the April 30 event, and there would be a potential legal liability if they tried to deny people's rights of expression.
Selectmen voted unanimously Tuesday to defer to state legislative action, as suggested by Rep. Lance Harvell and Sen. Walter Gooley, both Farmington Republicans. With the Legislature adjourned, it's not likely any action will be taken before the march.
Although Harvell couldn't attend the meeting, Selectman Ryan Morgan said he had called and was looking into what could be done at the state level. Gooley, who is not seeking re-election and will not be in Augusta next January, told the board he would work on the issue with Harvell.



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The Board didn't hear from the town, they heard from their buddy Max Yates. This guy thinks he owns the town because of a couple of rundown apartments he rents at overpriced rates. Next meeting will be attended by townsfolk who are going to tell Max to sit down and shut up. These people who have lived here their entire lives have no sense of what the world is really like. You won't hear Max complaining about the code enforcement in this town. He really makes one laugh.
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So, last Saturday I happened to be on Main St. with my 15 year old son. We saw the females on the corner topless. My son says to me "why would they do this?" I say "well its not against the law for women to be topless, I mean men can be topless too". He says "no I mean, its not like she is fighting for something, she already has the right." I just nodded, he goes on to say "Mom, its April, thats just stupid"...out of the mouth's of babes...
I have to say I could seriously care less, I guess what bothers me most is that this female is doing it in a town that she has no roots in. This article states she is from Brooks, Me. well why I ask isn't she doing this in her own town? Is she afraid of embarrassing her family/friends/siblings? I think if I had any wish it would be that young people, my own children included, respect themselves and others and speak if your speaking for something. This battle has been fought and won. There are alot of things that are not illegal, yet we don't do them because it isn't respectful. I don't think its respectful that our elderly population is subjected to this young females whims, would she go topless in front of her grandparents? I doubt it seriously. Yet I have seen some of our seniors and adolescents be embarrassed by these actions. No, I'm not a prude, just a mom who hopes that one day all those who chose to participate in this march and demonstration come to understand how the rest of us more modest people feel. That is truely respect. Yes I do understand she feels oppressed by something but it certainly isn't because of the law because the law is on her side. So what is she feeling oppressed by? For the record, no I don't allow my son to go shirtless in stores, restaurants or downtown as a matter of respect for those who are uncomfortable with it. There is a time and place for everything.
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Did the sight of a topless woman cause your son any trauma?? My guess is "no".
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This young woman is to be applauded for what she's doing. It takes tremendous courage to stand up for your beliefs and to demand equal treatment under the law. There's no need for those afraid of bare breasts to catapult us into another era of puritanical witch trials and blanket prohibitions!
As for loss of business? Quite the contrary. This protest is an excellent reason to make a special trip to Farmington and to provide custom to its places of business.
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The woman really should think before the march. 1 it is not illegal for a woman to go topless. 2 it is not illegal for a woman to go nude. Yes law says genitals can't show and it is in case law that women genitals are inside her. So who is being discriminated against, men maybe. That is right a man can walk down the street with out a shirt and no one will think twice but if he walks down the street naked he gets to go to jail. A woman walks down the street naked and she will get some head turns but will get to walk home. So this woman wants to make people think about what they see. I am going to guess that this marching by all these women will cause Maine to change the nudity laws to include breast, butt, and vagina. So this woman will take a social no no and make it a crime. Nice, that is progress.
PS If I can get off work I will be there with a fist full of $1 dollars. Veritas and Pirate plus parrot I will save seats for you if you want to go.
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This woman is claiming to walk around Farmington for the equal rights of women; she claims that, as men, they should be able to take off their shirts in public. But she does not believe in equal rights, nor does she speak for the majority of women. In doing what she is doing, she has violated the rights of every moral person, every man, woman, and child who sees her, every tax-paying citizen of this town. The police have said that she has let them know ahead of time when she will be downtown. Has the general public been forewarned of these times? No! You never know when you'll be downtown and be faced with this indecency - and yes, it is indecent no matter whether there is a law that states so or not. There are guidelines on DVDs, TV shows, and movies so that parents can choose what is appropriate and what is not appropriate for their family. But no-one has that choice in this case. We've been told there is nothing we can do - that she has the right to parade around town half naked. Once again, the "rights" of the minority have trampled on the "rights" of the majority. Well, there is something we can do and must do. We must insist on a special town meeting to vote in an ordinance forbidding such behavior. (There are several Maine cities who have enacted such an ordinance.) We must call our legislators and get a law passed (44 states in this country have such a law). This is not something that will "blow over" as we've been told by our town leaders; this is an INTERNATIONAL movement folks, not just something thought up by one UMF student! Unless something is done to stop it, it will fester and grow, not disappear, until such behavior becomes accepted as the norm.
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That is your opinion.
I am not offended by the human body in any state of dress or undress. In Vermont, complete nudity is acceptable in many places. I respect your right to your opinion, but do not force your value system on me.
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What ever will we do?!? The horror. THE HORROR!!!!!!!!!
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What would Gloria & Betty think about these 'Girls'gone wild' Please what is Their Point?
How does 'sporting about displaying your Wares accomplish anything but 'Surplus' Backlash' and since when did Maine become the 'Host' Site for "New York Based' Display of Modern Post Modern Art' Finally if one of these 'Broads' want to Parade around the Down Town Common at least Let the Paraders be worth checking out.
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That's why I'm Going to Katmandu'
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Such a tittilating story, i hope everyone can stay abreast of the developments! (Sorry, I could not resist!)
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Nice puns, Tman
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we should go bottomless......
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If you look around John quest....you'll see alot of a$$es hanging out of peoples pants already. And it ain't a purty sight!!
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Humorously or not, if we were all naked, weather permitting, and people had to show their disgusting bodies and there would be a lot more of us losing weight. Perhaps this can lead us all in that direction. If you want to be thin, be naked... Reason laughs ...
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That was hilarius "Hiel Titler"!! This post has some of the funniest stuff I have seen here! Keep them talking Andrea!
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This girl needs to grow up. Even in Europe where they dont view nudity the same way we do here, you dont see women walking around everywhere topless. They know the time and place (beaches generally). This girl is looking for attention. She already has the right to walk around topless if she wishes, drawing attention to it will do nothing more than cause knee-jerk reactions resulting in town ordinances against what she is doing. I dont know what she seeks to accomplish here since it's already legal...
Trying to claim that someone who sees this as 'morally unacceptable' has a twisted sense of morals or is a prude, ultra-conservative, narrow-minded, etc. is a typical liberal name calling tactic that gets pulled out any time someone disagrees with their view of the world. In the real world, people discuss rationally and without name calling. Your values obviously differ from mine. That does not automatically make either of us wrong...but by claiming that anyone who disagrees with you is x or y, you come off as the narrow minded one.
FWIW, other than teenagers, you dont see too many men walking around town shirtless. In fact, other than at the beach or while playing sports, you dont see it that often at all. Knowing the time and place (and a little common sense) can go a long way.
In the end, she will get her attention (and a lot of guys with cameras who will post their pictures all over the internet). Being in a public place means there is no expectation of privacy which means people can take pictures, ask any celebrity about this one...
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Where exactly, we should worry about seeing "women walking around everywhere topless" as you are mimiking Chicken Little about....
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South Beach, Miami works for the Pirate
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Where I live there is a 50+ year old guy who walks all around town shirtless all summer long.
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And I have a real friendly pit bull; his name is Skippy
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likely true, but as I said, it's an exception rather than the rule.
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In the English Gardens in Munich, worker sunbathe completely nude on their lunch breaks. The gardens are in the middle of the city.
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I have it from a pretty reliable source that that actually takes place at the German Gardens in London.
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Good for them. So let me guess, because this happens in Europe, we should do it too (wait, you probably are for socialism and the VAT too). You may recall the article about strippers in small-town Maine where they strip completely nude? They cannot go completely nude in uber-liberal Portland.
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And Skin to the Wind!!!!
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If she were REALLY trying to make a statement, the parrot sez she wouldn't be wearing the skirt.
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It states this woman is a UMF student....is she walking around town topless because she isn't allowed in class this way? Has she made her point on campus and in her classes as well? I'm curious as to whether she has been banned from doing this on campus because it's not allowed and this is why she is walking downtown. Personally, there are much more important causes to be fighting in this world then whether I can hang my bare hooties to the world or not.
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We have to understand that some people like Mr. Yates have a perverse and twisted sense of morality. This demostration is not for shock value; its educational. Every child over the age of 6 should be required to attend. Those under 6 should already have seen their mothers nude and there is absolutely nothing wrong or improper about it.
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just because someone disagrees with you does NOT make them wrong, twisted or perverse (but I forgot, your liberal teachings say that you are the only one who is ever right). educational my arse, this is purely for shock value.
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Children over the age of 6 "required" to attend? What country are you posting from? We can then categorize these children as the "Titler Youth" and have them chant "Hiel Titler!".
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Like the Pirate said in a previous post; tit for tat?
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Tact, Modesty, Integrity, appropriate behavior are all lost on these demonstrators. I really beleive if everyone ignored them then they would go away. Its not illegal as it stands right now. Just inappropriate. The more they demonstrate the more it will make people want to outlaw it. DUMB
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Anyone that has every watched a National Geographic program knows other societies don't sexualize a woman's body the way we do.
Good for this young woman! She's got everyone talking !
THAT IS HER POINT NANCY - because you can't wrap YOUR mind around what the point it here...... People like you are part of the problem.
My body isn't perfectly sexy by our society's standards ... was once..... but I'm older now.
BUT... it's PERFECT in God's eyes
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well said KNSAISI. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Only in our country it is frowned upon for a woman to feed her child. The most natural act in the world and it offends some
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Yeah, but this chick ain't breast-feeding; she's flaunting.
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If she wants to walk around half nude... let her...but it's not about adults...it's about teens having those feelings....teens learning how to deal with it in a society, long time based on certain moralities
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The human body comes in two basic varieties, male and female. Most people on this earth are either one or the other. Why do we feel the need to hide certain parts? Just because some people are uncomfortable with their bodies, or become aroused at the sight of another, laws are made to prevent other people from being seen in the basic human state.
People with certain religious convictions will tell you that being nude is sinful. But nowhere in the Bible does it outright state that thou shalt not be nude. Nudity is not a sin. When someone sees another nude, the only sin that may occur is lust, and that is on behalf of the person seeing not the person who is nude. God created everything in his own image, and nothing God created can be bad.
Laws prohibiting nudity are actually legislated morality. Where do we draw the line between religion and the law? In certain beliefs it is sinful for women to show their faces. The only body parts that are allowed to remain uncovered is their hands. Is this where we are heading?
Studies have shown that children who grow up with a healthy understanding of the human body, are more likely to have a positive body image, and less likely to participate in promiscuity in their teen years. Teen pregnancy at nudist resorts is almost non-existent. Perhaps we should learn from our textile resistant brothers and sisters. When you hide something from a child, it only makes it more attractive for them to try and see it. If we can take the stigma out of "being human", the lust will eventually become a non-issue.
What harm comes to a child who sees a human breast? Many get a close up and personal exposure on a regular basis until they are old enough for solid food. Older children are only titillated by the sight because of the way we adults react. We actually train our children to think that exposure of a breast is shameful. If left to their own conclusion, humans would think nothing more of a breast than they do an elbow. When was the last time you were arouse by an elbow??
Children do not become sexually aware prior to puberty unless trained by caregivers. This training takes on many forms, but is quite effective. It all starts when they are infants. Infants are natural nudists, but the necessity of diapers cause a need for them to cover up. But as they grow, they are constantly instructed as to where they are allowed to be nude, and where they must be dressed. On a hot summer day, they are not allowed to enjoy a pool without adorning a bathing suit that quickly becomes a soggy heavy nuisance.When they bathe, they are usually told that they must get dressed before leaving the bathroom. They may ask why, and be told that it is not proper for them to be in their own home undressed, even though there is nobody else in the house. This creates a body shame; if seeing a body is bad, then maybe the body is bad. It also creates a curiosity as to what other bodies look like. But when they walk into mom's room while she is dressing, they may be greeted by a shrill scream and scolded for doing so.
These are examples of subliminal training. The more obvious training methods come from the examples set by adults. When Uncle Phinneus starts talking about "hooters", he is passing his juvenille attitude to all of the children within earshot. When he makes lustful comments such as "I'd like to get inside her pants" he is training another generation of insensitive lust-driven perverts of every child who is within ear shot. If not corrected, such behavior is seen as acceptable.
We need to develop a respect for others, including a respect for the human body. Laws restricting people from being human are not the solution, but only contribute to the problem.
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Are you suggesting we should all be walking around naked so that we will not be contributing to the problem of human restriction? I'll bet you are pro-choice, but you are against the death penalty, too.
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I agree that toplessness by anyone is not appropriate in the business district on a regular basis. However, this woman is attempting to convey a message, and to do that, you sometimes have to push the envelope a bit. If she were to do the same thing on a remote country road, it probably wouldn't have been noticed, and her message wouldn't reach as many people. I am suggesting that if society had a more mature approach nudity, there would be no reason for anyone to be traumatized by what they saw.
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The parrot sez the situation adds a whole new meaning to tit for tat.
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She said at the beginning of her social experiment that she didn't want to hurt anyone. I would guess she IS hurting businesses, as many people have stated that they will avoid the downtown area because of her. This is NOT normal social behavior, whether it is legal or not, and downtown Farmington is not Palm Beach. Andrea should think about what she is doing to the business climate in downtown Farmington instead of only herself and the "titillation" she is getting from shocking people.
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The way I read it, she is not doing it for excitement, she is trying to send a message. Obviously, you just don't get it.
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Kevin, I DO get it. It is her right, and as a matter of fact I have made helpful suggestions for her mission statement that she has incorporated into the statement. It is also my right to say her behavior is not socially acceptable and is interfering with business. And it is everyone else's right to either agree or disagree with either side.
I stand by my opinion that a woman who is barebreasted in public is doing it for shock value. Whether she has lofty motives or not, she IS trying to shock people. I also believe Andrea is excited by the reactions she is getting.
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Move away Nancy. Havn't you ever heard of the Bible Belt? The people in this town never fail to express their stupidity.
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<blockquote>I stand by my opinion that a woman who is barebreasted in public is doing it for shock value. Whether she has lofty motives or not, she IS trying to shock people.</blockquote>
Well, does your sweeping generalization apply to ALL women everywhere? What about the African tribes where toplessness in public is commonplace? What about the legally sanctioned nude beaches where women sunbathe? What about breastfeeding moms? Your comment makes them all seem to be exhibitionistic perverts. Looking to draw attention is not the same as wanting to shock people. She is trying to convey a message, so she obviously wants to draw attention, but she may not be looking to shock anyone. There are those who will be shocked, but the more mature and self righteous will just smile.
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Kevin, as a matter of fact I suggested to her that she invite breastfeeding women and breast cancer survivors, that was something she incorporated into her statement. I should have clarified the words you quoted, you're right. The Africa argument is weak, of course when in Rome do as the Romans do. When at a legally sanctioned nude area, by all means take it all off. I am not trying to deny anyone's lawful right to be topless, but it IS shocking to see a topless woman in public, whether you are 6 or 60, mature or not, and she knows it. That is not an attitude limited to Farmington, Maine. I do understand her message, but I think the method is hamhanded and I believe people are avoiding the downtown because of it and therby hurting downtown businesses. I do not dislike her, I dislike and disagree with her behavior and the impact it is having.
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<blockquote>The Africa argument is weak, of course when in Rome do as the Romans do. When at a legally sanctioned nude area, by all means take it all off. I am not trying to deny anyone's lawful right to be topless, but it IS shocking to see a topless woman in public, whether you are 6 or 60, mature or not, and she knows it.
I do see your argument that it is shocking, but of course it is. Anything that isn't normal shocks people. If I were to dye my hair blue, it would be shocking to some. But the real reason I am replying to your comment is that you said "when in rome" and "in legally sanctioned areas". If you want to get technical, since Maine has the law on the books that states that BOTH male and females can wear what they want, as long as the genitals are covered, Maine is the legally sanctioned area. Again I support your argument and I wouldn't want kids to be exposed to the female or male body in such a way, it is your responsibility to keep kids away. As a whole parents have lost a lot of control with their kids. Not to be cruel or anything, I'm just saying it is the responsibility of the parents to protect their kids. It is her RIGHT to express herself. Your assertion that you can do it but only if your conforming to what other people are doing is gross. Somebody has to do it first and that first person is going to get flak for it. Rosa Parks wanted to sit down and your saying that, that wasn't alright unless she was in Africa or some place where it happened often.
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"Again I support your argument and I wouldn't want kids to be exposed to the female or male body in such a way, it is your responsibility to keep kids away."
Away from what? What actual harm is caused by a child seeing a naked breast?? Please site clinical studies. :)
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Im not saying that anything is wrong with the female chest. I am only just saying that to me personally that the female chest is a sexual piece and I for one wouldn't want to expose my kids to that too early.
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So, it is okay from birth to (what age?), but not again until (what age?). It is sexualized because people like you reinforce the sexuality. I refer you to the comments I made previously.
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<blockquote>The Africa argument is weak, of course when in Rome do as the Romans do. When at a legally sanctioned nude area, by all means take it all off. I am not trying to deny anyone's lawful right to be topless, but it IS shocking to see a topless woman in public, whether you are 6 or 60, mature or not, and she knows it. <blockquote>
I do see your argument that it is shocking, but of course it is. Anything that isn't normal shocks people. If I were to dye my hair blue, it would be shocking to some. But the real reason I am replying to your comment is that you said "when in rome" and "in legally sanctioned areas". If you want to get technical, since Maine has the law on the books that states that BOTH male and females can wear what they want, as long as the genitals are covered, Maine is the legally sanctioned area. Again I support your argument and I wouldn't want kids to be exposed to the female or male body in such a way, it is your responsibility to keep kids away. As a whole parents have lost a lot of control with their kids. Not to be cruel or anything, I'm just saying it is the responsibility of the parents to protect their kids. It is her RIGHT to express herself. Your assertion that you can do it but only if your conforming to what other people are doing is gross. Somebody has to do it first and that first person is going to get flak for it. Rosa Parks wanted to sit down and your saying that, that wasn't alright unless she was in Africa or some place where it happened often.
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Either men lose the right to go shirtless in public, or women maintain the right. It's a shock at the moment, but the shock factor will pass with time. How did we get from floor length dress and full covering mens and womens bathing suits a hundred years ago to miniskirts, bikini's and speedos today? Some public shock factor occurred along the way I'm sure, but we all got over it, and the children are fine!
Publicity unfortunately will make this womans parade somewhat of a circus, but I'm sure the first women to cast their first vote in public in 1920, were surrounded by paparazzi at the time. I'm sure there were many citizens then who disagreed with the shocking development that females would now have a vote that counted, but we all got over it. Who reports that "A woman voted today" anymore?
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With all the problems that exist in this state, I believe this woman could put her time and mental energy to better use...stupid.
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While the young woman was well within her rights to appear topless in public, she certainly is not exhibiting good taste...the same as any male who strolls topless in a commercial or business environment - it's not appropriate conduct. For xyz and others, I wonder how you would feel if your wife, daughter, sister or mother decided to follow this behavior.
On the lighter side, it certainly gives a whole new meaning to the businesses that post signs saying, "No shirt, no shoes, no service".
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I would hazard a guess that most of the men in town did not mind except for the narrow minded ones, They are the ones that would have voted for Mike Heath if he had the 'nads to run.
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Your own comment shows you yourself have sexualized her behavior. Why limit yourself to saying "most of the men" if what she is doing isn't sexual in your own mind?
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