Five days after Brianna Freeman had used the women's restroom at Denny's restaurant in Auburn, she was beckoned by the manager. He asked to speak to her privately.
He told her that a customer had complained that she, a male, had used the restroom. He had talked to his supervisor, who talked to the company's vice president.
Because Freeman hadn't had a transsexual operation and wasn't considered a biological female, she had to use the men's room, they told her.
Freeman told him the restaurant was breaking the law by not allowing her, a transgendered person, to use the restroom at the public place.
When she met with a Sun Journal reporter at a different local restaurant this week, Freeman, 45, was dressed in a black tank top with spaghetti straps. Her dyed auburn hair fell below her shoulders and was pulled back by sunglasses. She wore silver earrings and a thin blue necklace. Before exiting, she slung a denim pocketbook over her shoulder.
What baffles Freeman, she said, is the restaurant's apparent change in policy.
She had frequented the same Denny's for about a year, dressed as a woman, and used the women's restroom without objection. She had met with the restaurant manager to explain her situation. There was no problem.
Then the restaurant changed managers. That's when the problem started.
Freeman said she never saw the woman who used the bathroom at the same time she did the night of the complaint. That woman couldn't have seen Freeman's face. So how did she determine that Freeman wasn't female?
She offered to discuss the issue with the manager, to provide documentation of her transition and make her counselor available.
They declined, having already decided, she said.
Freeman is in what she calls phase two of a three-phase process. First, about a decade ago, she discovered her true gender identity. Next, she assumed the role and lifestyle of a woman. Phase three is the surgical procedure to complete the process. It costs about $100,000, prohibitive for her to pay privately. No health insurance covers such a procedure, she said, though legislators in California are considering it.
The 13-day hospital stay would be followed by surgical recuperation, rehabilitation and the physical adjustment, she said. The mental adjustment would be minor by comparison, she said.
Freeman hasn't had similar problems at any of the other eight restaurants she visits regularly, she said.
“I am accepted and acknowledged as a female. It's really all I'm asking people to try to do.” In a couple of cases, she has talked to management or wait staff to explain before using the restroom, she said. The rest of the time, she doesn't feel the need to.
She has been undergoing hormone therapy for two-and-a-half years, aimed at boosting her estrogen levels and blocking her testosterone.
“This is something that people are born with,” she said. It's in her genetic makeup, in her brain.
The discovery came in 2000 when she was in a relationship. She and a girlfriend were kidding around. She picked up a pair of women's underwear at a store. Her girlfriend dared her to try them on. When she did, “it really turned a big light on in me.” She didn't say anything, fearing she'd lose her girlfriend.
“I've always felt different,” she said. “I've always felt like I did not belong with what I was given biologically. I thought it was just growing pains.”
But she learned it was nothing of the kind.
“That's a lie … it's a fallacy.”
Now that she is living as a woman, she can't and won't revert back to her life as a man, she said.
“I do not regress, digress to anything that's male as I present myself.” That includes using the men's room.
“I know there are some people out there who can't get beyond themselves to see that this is my choice,” she said. “It has nothing to do with you. I just want to live my life as completely as I can.”

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Please stop moralising and shouting abuse at each other.
One woman (allegedly) complained to Denny's about a man dressed as a woman using the ladies' room. Denny's chose to take that (alleged) person's word. Did abuseof any kind take place? No. To suggest that any man could dress as a woman and walk into the ladies' room without being immediately spotted is patently ridiculous, and would any man dare to walk around town dressed as a woman? I doubt it.
No-one here is suggesting carte blanche freedom for men to use the ladies'. Brianna Freeman is not a man, she is a woman with a genetic defect, her genitals are grossly distorted and she is waiting to have that defect corrected.
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The more I read the report, the more I am puzzled about the manager at Denny's. How did he know, five days after the alleged complaint, that Freeman was the person against whom the complaint was leveled? What made him think that it would be appropriate for Brianna to use the male toilets - did he think she could hoist up her dress to pee, alongside men? Did he even consider the potential danger to Freeman of using male washrooms - that there would be a high probability of physical abuse from male users? Does Denny's also prohibit lesbians from using the ladies'?
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SO What does a business have to do to protect it's self and it's patrons, Change the men's and ladies rooms, To Penis and Vagina!! DUDE if your Pre-OP use the Men"s room DUDE!!! When the doctor turns your OUTY to AN INNY Then you can use the ladies ROOM!!! Now if someone is post-op, physically a women and Management of Anything force you to use the Men's room because of your 5 O'clock shadow and adams apple and you show them your ID stating your gender as female and they still insist you use the men's room That's discrimination!! This however sounds like a baseless abuse of the law!! And why these laws see so much opposition. You can't just say I'm a women now and use whatever you want!! IF so I'll be at the YMCA ladies locker room with my skirt and Wig!! All those sexy business women changing from office wear to workout wear YUMMY!!! Dreams can come true!!!
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Please get off your throne Madeleine the only choir you are preaching to is the one that plays in your head. We have to deal with you...unfortunately, so that means you also get to deal with us members of the GLTBQ community as well.
Blue Eyes you are correct God will pass the judgement and Thank You for bring that up and I appreciate your words they make me wish the rest of the world was more like you.
Also Scottie if you do not want to offend Brianna may I suggest using her legal name "Brianna" and the term "she or her" that might be a good start.
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This whole issue started when a woman complained to the Denny's manager that there was a man dressed as a woman in the women's bathroom. Wouldn't women using the ladies room at Denny's or at any other public place be reasonable in thinking that men no matter how they are dressed should not be in the ladies room?
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is how the woman who complained knew it was a man. Whatever the circumstances, one or the other would have been doing something they weren't suppose to be doing.
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That's like saying how could you tell it's a horse he's wearing a cat costume!!
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Good idea. 2 of the 5 business I've worked for have had unisex bathrooms and as one might expect never had a problem.
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Folks, get over it, my opinion is based simply on the following...until surgical intervention, they are the sex they were born with and should abide by those rules. If you think soemone with male genitalia should be in a womans bathroom, then why only limit it to those whod ress like women? Why can't we just have unisex bathrooms for everyone.
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I totally do NOT want to offend Bruce/Brianna, I realize this is a difficult issue. I keep coming back to the thought - what makes him/her a woman? Because she dresses like one? Is that enough? Because she says so? Is that enough? He/She is free to do as they want, dress as they want, think as they want - but so is everyone else. I actually feel bad for Denny's for having to go through this instead of just running their business.
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I remember your preachings from the Gay marriage issues, dear Madeleine. This is about EQUAL RIGHTS!!! You made it well know with the gay marriage issue that you hate homosexuals, so I am sure you have put Brianna in that category. Child molesters have dressed as priests....I don't see you mentioning that along with your concern of them dressing as women. People fear what they don't understand...and the sad thing is....there is nothing to fear. You tell Brianna to get over herself.....well I feel, too...that you need to get yourself off your judging throne and judge only yourself. If God feels that Brianna or anyone else for that matter, is doing anything he finds offensive, it's for him to judge, not you!!!!! Last I knew...the God I love and worship, was all about love and acceptance.
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Number one I do not hate gays. Yet, I do not agree in gay marriages, because of the incest factor. I explained that quite thoroughly. Yet you choose to call that hate. Oh well, too bad. I still stand by what I said. Marriage is for a man and woman...get yourself another word for your union. :) I have a concern with deception Blue Eyes. I don't want a man in the bathroom with me...and thats the bottom line. Bruce can become a woman and then he will have the same rights to the restroom. Until then, stay the heck out of the womens bathroom. Again you lied. I did not judge Bruce. Bruce can choose to be anything he wants to be...except for infringing on the rights of other women and girls. I believe when Bruce is officially Brianna, he too will understand this. Do you realize women and children are raped daily...and not only by priest? Wow, I bet YOU didn't know this. Well they do. We do not need men masquerading as women entering womens bathroom. It is only common sense old Blue Eyes. As far as God goes, He gave us all a brain...use it! Oh and by the way, I don't have to let a man share my bathroom in order to prove I love or accept them...if you do, YOU have the problem.
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Maybe you could meet and get to know a trans person Medleine most trans people you would never know if they didn't tell you.. Brianna is HER name btw even you wish not to accept her gender maybe show some respect and class by using your manners and addressing her correctly. Also what does gay marriage have to do with incest?? have you listened to any of your insane rants. If you beleive in God and have read the bible doesn't it say Judge not les ye be judged so say the Lord? Who are you? Are you God? no you aren't and youd be foolish to speak for him. I know I spelled your name wrong but I thought it might let you know how it feels to be called by the wrong name. If you actually spent time with members of the GLTBQ community maybe you would understand more or at least sound a lot less rediculous than you do right now. Brianna is a woman not a man if you don't choose to accept or at least deal with it then tinkle at home... and remember this little tidbit Madeleine "if you sprinkle where you tinkle be a sweety and wipe the seaty"
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Way to go FormerMainer...when all else fails, resort to deception. I haven't ranted one bit. I guess if someone is not in agreement with you, that makes the other person a ranter. Ha:) Bruce is a man until he has his surgery. If you sprinkle where you tinkle be a sweety and wipe the seaty"? And your how old? :)
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What is it with you and accusing everyone deception? I love how you danced around my other questions did you ever write speaches for our former president.. Anybody who complains about things that don't make sense is Ranting so yes you are ranting.. Obviously you didn't catch what I was getting at the with the cute nursery ryme quote which shows me how close minded you really are.. I'd love to debate with you all day but its hard to have a battle of wits with a person who is obviously unarmed.. Might I recommend you stepping out of your mumu frock and into the 20th century my dear and do turn on the television... it now comes in color...
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FormerMainer, do you pay attention to what you write...or do you just spew garbage for the fun of it? "most trans people you would never know if they didn't tell you" DECEPTION! To cause to believe what is not true; mislead. To practice deceit. To give a false impression: Yes, Former Mainer I said, deception, because YOU suggested it in the first place :) Perhaps YOU would prefer the word "hoodwinked" better. To take in by deceptive means; deceive. :) The wolf in the story of Little Red Riding Hood comes to mind.
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FormerMainer, you are a legend in your own mind. You are far from witty... :) Unless of course you consider yourself a dim wit, and then I would have to agree with you. I did not dance around any of your questions...they were not worthy of answers. " Might I recommend you stepping out of your mumu frock and into the 20th century my dear and do turn on the television... it now comes in color..." And how would you know? You can't see further than your nose. I'll tell you what I told queenhoneybee...step out of your paper bag and take a look at the big picture. And by the way, we are in the twenty-first century...Go back to sleep Rip Van Winkle.
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"I know there are some people out there who can't get beyond themselves to see that this is my choice,” she said. “It has nothing to do with you."
EXACTLY!!! I know there are people out there that can not get over themselves?
THAT would include YOU! I am all set with my grand daughter's sharing a public bathroom with a man...whether he believes he is a man or a woman. YOU were right in saying, " This is my choice." Does that mean the rest of the world does not have a choice? What is there to stop every child molester in this world from dressing like a woman, so he can have lawful access to public restrooms?
It is NOT all about YOU! It is about others also. When will enough ever be enough? Get over YOURSELF! Life is NOT all about YOU!
"Tolerance, in one sense, implies the compromise of one's convictions, a yielding of ground upon important issues. Hence, over-tolerance in moral issues has made us soft, flabby and devoid of conviction."
"We have become tolerant about divorce; we have become tolerant about the use of alcohol; we have become tolerant about delinquency; we have become tolerant about wickedness in high places; we have become tolerant about immorality; we have become tolerant about crime and we have become tolerant about godlessness."
-Billy Graham
When is enough, ENOUGH?
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I don't want that either it's just not right, and I do believe this person just wants the money for the operation. I also believe Only In America!!! Getting to be the land of the sick.
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it states "Denny's had asked for a jury trial, but after Freeman changed her complaint withdrawing her request for compensatory and punitive damages, the judge rejected the restaurant's motion for a jury trial."
So Freeman isn't going to get any money in this deal, Freeman just wants to go to the bathroom when needed!!
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by using the Men's Rest Room, which accommodates the equipment God endowed him with.
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i think if they identified themselves as a female (or even male for use to be women) then they would have the info to back it up i.e. driver's license... so i think that it would be quite obvious if there was someone to abuse or use (going to the restroom) as an excuse.
furthermore-NOT every offender is a child offender. not every offender uses restrooms to peep. there are peeping toms and offender's... big difference and either of them has nothing to do with transgendered.
not to sound rude (and when i write this, i truly am not haste by any means) it is NOT about what you think or what others think... we don't have a right to tell someone how to live their life or how to dress or to stay home, etc. we are a world of diversity. you live by your morals and other will live by theirs. just because they may dress different or dye their hair or identify with one sex more than the one that they were physically born with does not mean that they are not good people. people who may have different views than yours are and can be good people.
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"NOT every offender is a child offender. not every offender uses restrooms to peep." And I believe to take even the smallest chance...it is a complete sign of ignorance. :) Yes you are so right. We have good people and bad. I don't believe anyone told Bruce how to dress or live...what was said is men do not belong in a ladies bathroom...and they don't! Diversity? Are you for real queenhoneybee? In other words queenhoneybee, Bruce is not being deprived from using the restroom of his biological sex..if he did, now we would have a problem!
The concept of diversity encompasses acceptance and respect.
It means understanding that each individual is unique,
and recognizing our individual differences. These can be along
the dimensions of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, socio-economic status, age, physical abilities, religious beliefs,
political beliefs, or other ideologies. It is the exploration
of these differences in a safe, positive, and nurturing environment.
It is about understanding each other and moving beyond
simple tolerance to embracing and celebrating the
rich dimensions of diversity contained within each individual.
Perhaps we will eventually have to have three public restrooms, men, women, and a special one for transgender
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oh yeah-cuz separation and segregation is soo much better...
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What would you think about your young daughter sharing a bathroom with several teenage boys? Get over yourself. This is not only about Bruce and his choice. This is about safety! Shall we have to hire a police officer in every public bathroom in the world? If a man came out of no where and flashed himself in front of you and your daughters would you have a problem with that? Perhaps YOU wouldn't, but YOU are not the only person in this world. Believe it or not...some of us see further than our noses. Yes, Bruce would love to use the womens bathroom...because Bruce thinks of Bruce alone. The rest of us continue to fight to keep our children safe, while Bruce thinks only of what would make him feel good, without considering the ramifications on the rest of society. GET OVER YOURSELF BRUCE! Queenhoneybee...believe it or not, men and women are different....and boys do not belong in the girls restrooms...anymore than girls belong in a boys restroom. Should we also get rid of the right of privacy? Because, what you are saying is that privacy should be compared to segregation. Take a step out of your paper bag and take a look at the big picture.
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i'm in the paper bag? shuure... well i am sure brianna or any one who is transgendered goes to the restroom to flash themselves. ladies do their biz with the stall door closed. thank you! ;)
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You silly queenhoneybee...I invite you to come out of that paper bag into the real world. ;) This is not JUST about Bruce being able to use the ladies room. It's about making public bathrooms co-ed. Imagine a grown man visiting his son’s school and has to take a pee. He’s going to be in the same bathroom as little girls???
Are they kidding??
NOPE.
Are you alright with this queenhoneybee? Buzzzz. Even if Bruce decides not to flash himself...many will. Are you alright with this queenhoneybee? Buzzzz
Maine considers banning little boys, little girls rooms
Fox News Channel ^ | April 13, 2010
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 1:53:41 PM by Jim Robinson
According to Fox News, Maine is considering banning the little boys, little girls rooms, boys vs girls locker rooms, boys and girls sports teams, etc. Reason: Sexual discrimination.
There is an agenda here queenhoneybee. This is about more than Bruce using the ladies bathroom at Dennys. Are you ready for the ramifications, or are you sure your willing to compromise the safety of woman and children?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread549905/pg1
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there is a big difference from freerepublic and what they want you to believe from the actual truth... isn't this common? not to believe everything you read on the net as truth. get the facts:
"FOX News Distorts Trans-Inclusive Guidelines in Maine Public Schools
Opinion by GLAAD
(April 16, 2010) in Society / Gay Issues
Over the past two days, FOX New Channel has contributed to increasing public misconceptions about the efforts of the Maine Human Rights Commission to make the state’s public schools safe and comfortable for all students. Fox aired two irresponsible segments on the commission’s proposal to issue guidelines on “Sexual Orientation in Schools and Colleges” to all Maine public schools.
The proposed guidelines direct administrators to allow transgender students to use the bathrooms and locker rooms and to participate on gender-segregated sports teams in accordance with their gender identity. These guidelines were developed in response to a case, currently before a Superior Court in Maine, of a transgender girl who was denied access to the girls’ restrooms at school.
The guidelines do not create any new legislation. They are intended to instruct public school educators and administrators on how to ensure their schools are in line with the Maine Human Rights Act, amended in 2005 to include protection from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation which the act defines as an umbrella term including gender identity or expression.
On Tuesday, April 13th, the FOX coverage of this story began with America Live anchor Megyn Kelly hosting Mara Keisling, executive director of the National Center for Transgender Equality, to discuss the potential impact of the proposed guidelines on Maine’s students:
Throughout the interview, the inaccurate headline “Maine Considers Ban on Gender Specific School Bathrooms” sat at the bottom of the screen, despite Keisling’s explicit comments to the contrary. Kelly’s lack of knowledge about transgender children and gender identity in general was demonstrated by her repeated reference to transgender girls using male pronouns, and her implication that these guidelines would essentially allow boys into girls’ facilities.
Keisling did an excellent job of educating Kelly and her viewers about the true reasons for, and positive impacts of these guidelines, and we thank FOX for its decision to invite such a qualified spokesperson on the air. However, the the network’s own misrepresentation of facts is highly problematic.
The irresponsible commentary and reporting then increased yesterday when Bill O’Reilly, Lis Wiehl, and Kimberly Guilfoyle discussed the proposal with shocking flippancy and disregard on The O’Reilly Factor. O’Reilly’s answer to the question of how to accommodate a transgender student was:
“Why is it bad to use the boys’ room when you were born a boy? …You were born a boy, and that [the boys’ bathroom] is where you’re going. And if you don’t like it, you can go home and go to the bathroom and come back.”
This line of commentary by O’Reilly and Guilfoyle was disturbing at best. It completely failed to address the intense discomfort and harassment that trans and gender non-conforming students endure on a daily basis when forced to use gender-segregated facilities at school.
FOX’s coverage of this story reduced and twisted the powerful and necessary guidelines for creating inclusive and respectful learning environments into a crude and biased argument about public restrooms, and misrepresented the experiences of transgender children in schools.
In contrast, local media outlets in Maine have been covering the story fairly and accurately since early March, when the commission met to pass the proposal but ultimately decided to postpone a decision until it had allowed more time for public commentary.
On Monday, unfortunately the commission cancelled the public hearing and announced that it would be postponing any further work, at least temporarily. The Bangor Daily News printed a thorough and fair story of this decision."
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'The concept of diversity encompasses acceptance and respect.'
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Here we have it.......all you holier then thou people that sit in your thrones and judge people because you label them as different. If Brianna is using a woman's bathroom, no other female will know Bri has a penis unless the woman goes into the stall with her! Brianna is not in there because she's a pervert trying to get a sneak peek, so what harm is being done? She will not flash a young child nor will a young child even know that Bri is a man! It is so nice to know that there are those of you out there that are so perfect that you can judge others. Do you people walk on water as well? Brianna should be able to live her life in peace. She is hurting NO ONE!
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you are assuming Brianna is not a pervert or trying to sneak a peek or flash a young child. It's not a matter of perfection; it's a matter of erring on the side of safety and prevention. Further, it is my opinion that until they have the operation, they should relegate themselves to using the facilities of the gender God Himself gave him. He's NOT a she yet and until that happens, he is still a he.
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Why must everyone judge everyone else? Why is it so hard to allow everyone to pursue his or her dream of happiness and contentment? Why can't we let them to feel acceptance for who they are regardless of our feeling? I do so hope that those who are judging have the opportunity to be judged and found lacking themselves.
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Miska, let's get something straight...I am decerning not judging.
Decern: Discernment is the ability to grasp, comprehend, and evaluate clearly. It means we can see the true nature of things; it allows us to distinguish between what is real and what is imitation. Discernment may begin with intuitive hunches and perceptiveness. With intuition as a starting point, the quality of discernment is built over time on honest observation, careful reasoning, and balanced application of our knowledge and principles. -Wisdom Commons
Yes, Miska, we do have a brain. Many of us also have common sense. We can detect when trouble is brewing...we can see when something is wrong...and we have the intellect to make correct decisions for ourselves and our children, our communities and our country. Just because someone says, thats not fair", it doesn't shake us or shame us. Because we can decern right from wrong. We understand that boys and girls sharing the same bathroom can be very dangerous. So we do not advocate for such foolishness. And just a little tidbit of wise advice...NO ONE should ever make any decision based on feelings, because feelings change quickly, just look at the divorce rate. Learn to decern, get your emotions out of the way. People who decern are to be watchful, wise, cautious and intelligent about things.
"Why is it so hard to allow everyone to pursue his or her dream of happiness and contentment?"
Should we allow pyromaniacs to set fires, because it brings them happiness and contentment? What you have just described is selfishness...and that can be very dangerous. There is a big picture in all of this...see if perhaps you can intellectually decern what it is.
“It is not because the truth is too difficult to see that we make mistakes... we make mistakes because the easiest and most comfortable course for us is to seek insight where it accords with our emotions - especially selfish ones.”
Alexander Solzhenitsyn quotes
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Needs money for operation, sue's Dennys, hmmmm? Only in America.
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Whats worse, a pre-op being offended by not being allwoed their choice of rest room, or all the other custoemrs who complained and considered it wrong? Denny's simply chose to go with the majority of the complaints.
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then your family would still own slaves.
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The Majority did rule! And you were wrong in stating slave owners were the majority!
http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm
One of the pet words of this age is "tolerance." It is a good word, but we have tried to stretch it over too great an area of life. We have applied it too often where it does not belong. Men do not belong in a girls bathroom. It is not only immoral, but very rude and inappropiate in any state.
(Only on Maine) There was a time when boys of easy virtue had to content themselves with sneaking a peek at the girls’ swim team during practice. But social engineers may make this passé with a proposal to allow boys to use girls’ bathrooms and locker rooms.
No, this isn’t the plot of a decadent B movie.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/culture/education/3082-gender-ag...
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tron, thank you for contributing such an intelligent remark to the conversation. My family has never owned slaves.
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with access to family trees. But deny it all you want, I don't really care.
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Would that be the artificial tree showing my mother having 4 husbands or the one written by those imaginary siblings you say you have but no one else can confirm?
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were just guys she shacked up with? I can't keep them straight, no wonder you have trouble remembering.
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Dennys the only solution is co-ed bathrooms where each stall is enclosed!!! to provide privacy to every individual dont worry you can pawn the cost off to your customers just like the state, oh sorry yes thats true your customers may stop comming with added cost while the taxpayers have no choice what so ever!!
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and rightfully you should honey! glad that sj did an article like this... in her words more or less.
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