RUMFORD — A path between Bean Brook and Maple Street properties is now off limits to all-terrain vehicles and dirt bikes that have been ridden on it for decades.
Bill and Peggy Malley of Maple Street decided to post their land on both sides of the path — known as Oak Street Extension — after learning last week that they own the land and not the town.
“We're not granting permission for people to pass through it, because we own property on both sides,” Bill Malley told selectmen at their July 1 board meeting. “Hopefully, something can be worked out elsewhere.”
That came after Town Manager Carlo Puiia read the opinion of town attorney Thomas Carey.
At the board's June 17 meeting, the Malleys sought help from selectmen to curb noise and unruliness by ATV and dirt bike riders they claimed were breaking town law by riding within 200 feet of their home. That's also a state law.
Because they said the problem had recently worsened in the 30 years they've lived there, the Malleys asked selectmen to ban ATVS and dirt bikes from using Oak Street Extension.
Selectmen, however, tabled the matter to their July 1 meeting, to run it past Carey before taking action.
At last week's meeting, Puiia, reading state law, said that without landowner permission, ATVs are limited to approved trails only.
The statute also states that an ATV can be operated on a portion of a public way, which is defined as a right of way over which the general public has a right to pass, Puiia said.
Additionally, the law states that a person may not operate an ATV within 200 feet of a dwelling unless it is a public way.
Carey said Oak Street Extension isn't an approved trail or a public way.
It's what's known as a paper street, meaning it's laid out only on paper as a street, but it was never physically made into a street.
“A paper street is not a public way,” Carey said. “A paper street is only a potential indication of land of the town to be used as a street.
“The Oak Street Extension is a paper street. So, although it has the potential to become a public way, it does not become one until the town reserves that right and votes to accept that street as a town way, which the town has not done to my knowledge.”
Carey said that having reviewed state statutes concerning ATVs and definitions of a public way and paper streets, “It is my opinion that Oak Street Extension is owned by private landowners.”
“The town has no ownership of the property for the purposes of controlling ATV access, and only the right to use it as a street upon town vote,” he said. “As a result, it is the landowners who will decide whether or not to give permission to ATVs.”
“It's very much his opinion that we don't have the right to post it, but those who have lots next to it have the right to either post it or allow it,” Puiia said.
Peggy Malley then sought clarification from Puiia.
“Since it's not a public way, then it's illegal to ride within 200 feet of our house?”
“Yes,” Puiia replied.
“Then we will be posting it,” both Malleys said.



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Why don't you post on here where your 'land' is so the Malleys and everyone else in the State can come over and enjoy 'exploring' your property as they see fit. I doubt either of you own property or you wouldn't be calling the Malleys "pricks' for deciding what they want to do with their own land. So how about it boys? Post some info here...or do you want to 'ruin other people's fun'?
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Frank has the most iratating habit of writing about himself in the third person as Watchdog. And Nancy1 you can blame my parents, they named me D Wilson. I didn't pick it, just my given name so you will have to get over it.
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I'm curious as to why you care so much about people's "real names". Are you a stalker?
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with his 4 wheeler on this guys land, and dies?
If the landowner has left his land open for atv's and doesnt post it, how much money do you think the kids parents can sue the landowner for?
I wouldnt leave my land open to this, it isnt worth it.
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Post it as "ride at your own risk". Or do what a lot of other's do, and post "No tresspassing" signs just to cover yourself, but don't enforce it. You're covered, whilst not being a prick.
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would tear your argument to shreds in court. If you dont enforce a posted sign it doesnt mean much does it?
As far as "ride at your own risk", if you dothen the dont keep the trail cleared or the overhead branches cut, or whatever, then you are negligent. If you say they can ride there, then you must make it safe.
If you let kids ride machines on your property you are asking for a lawsuit.
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this sentence above should read "if you dont keep the trail cleared........"
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They are uptight jerks, so what? It's their land and they can be uptight jerks if they want to. So interested in ATVing? Buy your own land.
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Or just rip the hell out of the uptight prick's land.
Seriously, some of these trails are MILES into the woods, where the landowner NEVER goes. They just put up signs to be pricks, and to that I say "Try and catch me old man".
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Article says within 200 feet of their home. And who cares if the landowner ever goes there - it's still their land to do with as they see fit. Get your own land, freeloader.
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Who said I don't have land? Just because people own land doesn't mean they don't want to explore the rest of the state.
Call it what ytou want, but I could give two ships or a truck about some prick just trying to ruin other people's fun. I'm not hurting anyone, I don't leave trash, I just want to cross their property and get to more trails. Try and stop me old man.
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Frank DiConzo stop hiding behind watchdog nickname and post under your name like an adult. We can see who you are in your profile by clicking on the nickname.
We put up with your crap as a selectman for years and gave you the boot June 8th. You consistantly ran your mouth about the cops and saving money outside the selectmen's meetings and you were right. When it counted, you voted with the rest of the dirtbags to give the cops raises and generally increase the police department budget and to expand the department while the keystone cops we already had did nothing, the population shrank and the mill is disappearing one brick and beam at a time.
Tuesday a guy was hammered on Cumberland street, sitting on the steps to his building with a Hannaford bag of empty 40 ouncers. He couldn't make it into the building he was so wasted. One of his buddies called for help. He got the Rumford marked units, the county deputy in his pickup, and OMG that slug Chief Carter came out of his air conditioned office and brought his unmarked car for an ambulance call for a DRUNK. That neighborhood has had a bad peeping tom problem for over a year and can't get a response in under 40 minutes for the perv at an elderly lady or child's window but a drunk gets 3 marked units AND THE CHIEF out of his office. Relative maybe?
Frank, I see you put in to join the Finance Committee. If those selectmen put you on that committee they are crazier than even I think.
It is unfortunate, but again so typical of your time in office, how you talk to xyz and other potential ATV and snowmobile people. You really have no clue that these are Rumford's only hope for the future. If we do not stop discouraging tourists and do everything to encourage them to come here for any and every activity we are done. Rumford should be getting proactive with snowmobile, ATV, and hiking/walking trails and river access/usage not cutting people off and making threats.
Take a vacation Frank and go stay with your daughter for a while; give us folks in Rumford a break.
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there's spit on it from your ranting. In case you've forgotten, Frank has as much right as you or anyone to state his opinion. Also, if the SJ required real names in order to post here they would have set things up that way. I am sure Frank knows clicking on his screen name will reveal his real name. (Unlike DWilson, who doesn't provide his or her full name but calls others cowards. Bricks and glass houses...)
Focusing back on the story, I am glad for these people that they can enjoy the lifestyle they choose within their property. After all, they bought the land, they are paying taxes on it, and if they don't want the general public on it that is their right. Anyone who thinks otherwise, and who owns land, if you disagree with that idea please post your address so the public will know where they can set up their campers.
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Yes I do know! Watchdog I thought was appropriate because for 21 years I have tried to keep taxes down in this Town. We are not a city but a town with a dwindling population. We can no longer afford escalating taxes. Example 1. A full time Welfare person. This should be administered out of town managers office. 2. The tax office was given the ok to hire two part-time people to save monies. This did not happen because the new collector was allowed to give one individual and extra hr. as to be eligible for a benefit package as well as giving one 3 dollars more than the other because he was a male. Discrimination ! Both were hired with no prior experince. and both at same rate of pay. 3. Special interest groups have run this town for years. The secret ballot ended that but has created a snowl at the voting booths because of lack of insight from clerks office by not having more than two machine at polls at a time. 4. We have three major dept. that are oversized for our population. 5. We rentivated the town hall but is it really handicapped exceesible. I don't think so ! 6. Is locking the door at 4pm everyday to access the police dept. a safety issue? 6. Will there be a push for consolidation of/merging of towns . 7. Not with this Board or manager. Dwilson why don't you deal with these issues a little more. Watchdog has tried but got no where because of special interest groups who have run the town of Rumford for years. The people need to be more proactive themselves and take the blinders off in order to move forward. Liberals should not be allowed in office. But they are in control now.
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(Rumford should be getting proactive with snowmobile, ATV, and hiking/walking trails and river access/usage but that could make Rumford an attractive place, a place were people want to go. We all know it could be but never will because of all the bullh--t that goes on in town hall...
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please keep the noise down im home trying to be boring. a couple of pricks with nothing better to do then keep people from having fun how do i know they are pricks can tell by looking at them
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Yes, they don't want dirtbags tearing up their property, having fun at other people's expense.
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Enforcement will be no problem.
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Is that a challenge? I'll tell you this - If an ATV rider doesn't want to stop, he isn't going too, and there is NOTHING the local Sherriff, State Police or even Game Warden will be able to do about it, period.
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Good luck trying to enforce this...
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I hope xyz is one of those people who ATV or snowmobile who has no respect for others and gets caught riding on posted land and throw in jail. Of course that won't happen with the police department we have. They allow one individuals to continue feeding the geese in the Boivin Park. What do they do when patroling. Just drink coffee and become less observant.
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...Even if the police department you have wnated to, you think they're going to catch even 25% of ATV riders in that area? What a waste of tax payers money, these guys are going to be driving around in circles.
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This is just another example of riders abusing and losing riding trails, the one or two bad apples ruin it for the rest. I too have had to close a trail because of a few bad apples with no respect, loud pipes and littering up the property. Fact is I really didn't want to but I refuse to have to clean up MY property because of my generosity being taken advantage of.
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Your attitude is why more and more people want ATVs banned period. For whatever reason, more and more ATV riders feel they have a right to do whatever they want. Vist Roxbury Pond any time of the day and you'll see what I mean.
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