PORTLAND (AP) — The 20-year-old man charged in a brutal triple murder in northern Maine told the family he was staying with that the killings followed a confrontation over a $10,000 drug debt, according to a man who had let the suspect stay in his home.
Robert Strout, 63, said he and his wife opened up their home in Orient to Thayne Ormsby, who showed up covered in blood a few weeks later after the stabbings of Jeffrey Ryan, his 10-year-old son, Jesse, and Jason Dehahn, a friend and neighbor, in the nearby town of Amity.
Ormsby told Strout he went to Ryan's home after Ormsby's father told him that Ryan owed him money.
"He said Jeff Ryan owed his father $10,000 on a drug deal and that his father wanted to collect it," Strout said Monday in a telephone interview with The Associated Press.
Ormsby's father could not be located for comment on Monday.
Ormsby was brought to Maine on Monday from New Hampshire, where he was arrested July 2 and later waived extradition. He is being held without bail pending arraignment on July 21 at the Aroostook County Jail. An attorney will be appointed for him, according to the attorney general's office.
The victims' bodies were discovered the night of June 23 by Dehahn's father and brother, who had gone looking for him after he had failed to return home.
In the weeks leading up to the killings, Ormsby had been staying with the Strouts. Robert Strout's wife, Joy, said she and her husband are disabled and that Ormsby helped them by cooking and cleaning and tending to their pheasants, quail and other birds. Ormsby's mother is good friends with one of the Strouts' daughters, she said.
During his stay, Ormsby was respectful, polite and helpful, she said. He didn't drink alcohol, and he rolled his own cigarettes. He sometimes smoked marijuana, but never at their home, she said. The Strouts encouraged him to earn a GED diploma and to find a job, she said.
But the Strouts' image of a smart and polite young man soon came crashing down.
Robert Strout told police that after the killings Ormsby rode up on his bicycle to his home, where Strout saw that his shirt, pants and shoes were covered in blood.
Robert Strout, who said he feared for his life, drove Ormsby to Strout's daughter's house in the town of Weston, where Ormsby burned his clothes in a furnace. He then drove Ormsby to a rural road where Ormsby set fire to Ryan's truck, which Ormsby had stolen after the killings.
Two days later, Robert Strout drove Ormsby to his son's house in Dover, N.H., but only because he feared for the safety of his family after Ormsby threatened him, he said.
"He said, 'Keep your mouth shut and nothing will happen. If you say anything, I will hurt your family,'" said Strout, who has not been charged with a crime.
Maine State Police and the state attorney general's office declined comment Monday.
Details of the motive for the killings have been scarce.
According to an affidavit, Ormsby told police he killed Jeff Ryan because he was a "drug dealer." But Jason Dehahn's brother, Jake, offered another potential explanation in which Ormsby was angry after being told to stay away from Ryan's 16-year-old daughter, who lives with her mother in another town.
None of those theories — including Robert Strout's comments about the drug debt — help explain how Ormsby turned from a decent person one moment into a "monster," Joy Strout said.
"All I can say is that the Thayne that was here at our house helping us when we were sick is not the person that went up to the trailer and killed those people," she said. "I don't know why, I don't know how."

"I don't know why, I don't know how.", Joy Strout stated????
Well I believe we all know how, and I am hoping the why is revealed. If the reason this Ormsby fellow murder these two men and this little boy was because Ryan was a drug dealer...then why didn't he kill his own father first? If Tamara Strout brought Ormsby into town in early June, why did Ormsby wait until Jesse arrived to be with his father to attack? Joy Strout stated, He sometimes smoked marijuana...how did she know? Did he come home and say, I'm stoned? And if he hated drug dealers, why did he smoke marijuana? Because I don't believe drugs were the only motive, if drugs were the motive at all.
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Tamara Strout, was not innocent either. This whole family new. I will never forget Tamara's smiling face. The days following the murders, this mother and daughter duo continued to lie to police and reporters also. I believe when they can finally get the motive for these senseless killings....we will find that there were others involved...everyone had a stake in helping Ormsby. I don't believe fear is what kept them all quite.
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I didn't mean that is what kept them quite. :) I meant quiet.
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I agree that the Strouts were involved in some way with this horrible senseless murder. I find it hard to believe that a 60 ish year old man felt threatened by this 20 year old punk !!! Then to top it all off, drive this punk around and help him destroy evidence. My guess is Mr Strout is a spineless person who is either really really stupid or inbreed. He is an accessory to this crime so throw his a.... in jail too !!!
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i also think that the strouts are involved.
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The potheads on this forum have been defending pot and declaring that it is harmless. This story is proof that its not harmless. How can anyone make sound judgements when their mind is in an altered state?
Well, Ormsby made some bad judgements, and the sad part is that his judgements will affect many people for the rest of their lives. The devastation he caused can never be corrected or made right again, it is permanent.
And now we find out that pot was behind it....imagine that!
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Pot was beind this? How do you figure that? Where in the article does it say that this triple murder was motivated by marijauna? You claim that "pot was behind it" yet the article only mentions that Ormsby occasionaly smoked pot while he stayed with the Strouts and never in their home, which leads me to wonder how much they really know about their young guest? That is the only time pot is mentioned in this article. Using your logic then the tobacco that he also rolled himself was just as much a part of it as well!
The Strouts maintain that Ormsby didnt drink alcohol while staying at their home, yet according to an earlier article by the Sunjournal, the evidence linking Ormsby to the murders was actually DNA and fingerprints collected from beer bottles and cigarette butts in the victims trailer. Yet "pot" was behind this and no mention of alcohol? I've never heard of anyone being so high on pot that they attacked and murdered someone, yet how common is violence due to alcohol?
On another topic, this $10,000 drug debt is never refered to as being due to marijauna either. Actually previous Sunjournal articles mention the victim's ex-wife (also the child victims mother) as saying that Mr. Ryan had a past of serious painkiller and prescription drug abuse. It seems that such a large debt would be much more likely attributed to a highly addictive substance, a substance such as synthetic opiate painkillers, with a much higher street values in comparison to marijauna. I wouldnt be the least bit suprised that narcotic painkillers were really what was "behind it". I also think the Strouts are lieing in order to save their own hides and they are probably white washing the situation as much as possible. I think an obstruction of justice charge would be right up their alley!
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I'm disgusted by this person's actions but am I surprised that drugs were somehow involved? NO! So, people, when you say "oh I just use occasionally, or a little pot (or whatever) now and then is no big deal," remember that your drugs come up the line from somewhere and that someone always pays a price. I am so sad for the poor little boy who got in the middle of this rampage.
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It seems to me that if people were allowed to supply themselves with their own marijauna by growing 2-3 plants at a time for personal use, then hardworking honest folks wouldnt have to rely on a black market supply chain. Makes sense, right? However I dont think pot was the real issue here, from what I can gather from previous Sunjournal articles Mr. Ryan was a known prescription pill addict, speicifically pain killers. From a previous Sunjournal article "Merrill was married to Ryan for seven years, but left because of abuse. She claimed that Ryan, a Vietnam veteran, was a prescription drug addict, buying and selling the pills" and that Ryan had "been threatened by quite a few people" over the years. Painkillers have a much much higher potential for addiction and abuse than marijauna.
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how can someone be honest if they are purchasing something that is illegal?
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So a person who uses marijauna is considered dishonest to you? I understand where you are coming from with your logic as far as comparing legallity with honesty. I guess it would depend on your moral values as far as "honesty" goes... I guess if you knew someone who went 5 mph over the speed limit, you would consider them dishonest as well?
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just found it interesting that you used the word honest to define someone who was breaking the law.
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Yes I admit that was a weak looking argument by throwing the term honest in there like that. I guess it depends on your view of the world. If you consider the laws that govern marijauna usage unjust then it's up to you what you consider honest or not. I associate selling marijauna with illegality yes because your avoiding tax laws mainly, however I dont consider people who use marijauna to be dishonest (though it may not be legal). I just see them as being forced into "the game" by an outdated and obviously failing war on drugs that has not even come close to its intent to end drug use in the United States. Legalize possesion of 3 plants for personal use, this way people can provide for themselves and there wont be a black market filled with "dishonest" people.
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I agree, Madeleine. How hard is it to call the police while he is asleep, or after he is gone for two days?
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How hard was it to pass a note across the table to the state police, while they were sitting at the Strouts kitchen table. Perhaps a note that said, "the murderer is in the back room, we are being held hostage." No, they didn't do that...because they are behind the whole thing.
"The Strout's had the opportunity to turn him in when State Police interviewed Robert and Joy Strout at their home in Orient and Ormsby was sleeping in the back room. Instead they admit they helped get him out of the state."
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I don't believe Ormsby threatened Mr.Strout. Ormsby admitted to murdering all three people. So why the heck would he lie about threatening Mr.Strout? I believe the Strouts are involved clear up to their eyeballs. I pray justice is served.
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I still think the Strouts are full of crap.
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whatever the reason-it will come out. feel so bad for the families affected...
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