After son found, father faces marijuana, child endangerment charges

VIENNA — A man who reported his son missing Sunday now faces marijuana possession and cultivation and endangering the welfare of a child charges, according to Kennebec County Sheriff Randall Liberty.

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Ben Lehr is checked out by a Kennebec County sheriff's deputy and Pat Rawson of Mount Vernon Rescue after the boy was found on Sunday afternoon.

Jonathan Lehr, 41, reported his 3-year-old son missing Sunday afternoon. The son, Ben, was found after about a 4 1/2-hour search when a Maine Warden Service pilot spotted the tot in a field of golden rod about 700 yards from the home.

The boy was shirtless, dehydrated and disorientated when found but was treated and released by rescue workers on the scene, according to Liberty.

During the search deputies also discovered 147 marijuana plants and 1/4 pound of processed marijuana at the Lehrs' home, Liberty said in a news release.

The elder Lehr now faces charges of marijuana cultivation, criminal possession of marijuana and endangering the welfare of a child. The Maine Department of Health and Human Services is investigating the complaint, Liberty said.

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jsknow's picture

MORE TRUTH

jsknow's picture

A bit more truth!

If the comment is to long for your pure sober and straight brain to handle, maybe you'll be able to sit through a movie: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2200160322729097762#

conserva-mom's picture

ug...seriously

Don't be in denial...if you're smoking pot, you're not taking proper care of your children...period. Why was this 3yr old allowed in his backyard alone?? He's 3 and has special needs for God's sakes!! Wake up! I have two children under 6 and they are NEVER outside without me. Complete idiocy on this guy's part. Was he inside smoking? If you have a few puffs at night after the kids are in bed, fine. But just like alcohol, if you're using during the day when you should be taking care of your kids, you have failed as a parent.

sandra2's picture

Actually, I didn't read it. I

Actually, I didn't read it. I read the first paragraph so how foolishly long it was and ignored it. If the truth is rude then grow up and be an adult and stop playing with weed like a child while you let the wagon pullers carry your lazy butt.

Kids don't "wander into the woods all the time" and need a full police manhunt to find them. That only happens when you are a lazy @$$ who mooches off your parents smoking weed and never grows up and learns how to take responsibility.

If your going to be a "rebel" and smoke pot, then at least be a grown up about it and stop playing the victim.

Newsflash, grown-ups know you can't be a rebel and a victim. So grow up and pick one.

seekingthetruth's picture

jeffyd, thats why my child has two parents

Yes, he may be out of our sight while playing in his room, but he is never outdoors unattended. Never.

Read the story, they charged the Dad with "child endangerment". Evidently the police thought the parent negligent as well. They had to have had a reason. And being a "decent sober parent" isnt a reason to charge him with child endangerment.

BobConstantine's picture

Reply to sandra2

http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/gen008.htm

Sandra,
Please click on the link above. I think you might learn something. As far as nobody reading this...you did didn't you? Also you needn't be so rude, it's rather impolite y'know.

seekingthetruth's picture

Jeffyd, are you sure being stoned wasnt a factor?

I can promise you that my 5 year old is never out of sight. No good parent lets a 3 year old leave their sight, especially outdoors.

This kid in the story was only 3 years old. There is no excuse for him being able to run off without his parents even knowing it.

Unless, they were stoned. "Who cares what the kid does as long as we are high" or "I was so stoned that i forgot about my baby"

Are you trying to say that dope smoking parents are not impaired in any way in the raising of their children? And that their dope smoking couldn't possibly have anything to do with the child running off without being noticed?

Common sense will tell any sane person that a sober person makes better decisions, especially when it comes to drug use.

jeffyd's picture
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im sure your child is never

im sure your child is never out of your sight. i have two small kids and you cannot watch them every second of every day. do you bring your child into the bathroom with you every time? what about showers? and im sure when you prepare meals you have your child right next to the stove with you right? there are times within your own home when you have to respond to other things. this man was at his home, his son simply walked in the woods in his own backyard. it happens all the time to decent sober parents too. the article says nothing about the sobriety of the paretn only that he had pot growing on his property.

salemgirl1's picture

child

It is so sad that the elder Lehr found it more important to nurture, grow and cultivate his pot plants rather than his own son........ that just goes to show you what a bunch of losers we have in this state. Wanna bet he is getting some kind of state aid too ???

jeffyd's picture
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children walk out into the

children walk out into the woods all the time not every parent of those kids smoke pot. we live in a rural state sometimes kids just get lost and has nothing to do with what the parent grows in his garden.

sandra2's picture

To make the statement that

To make the statement that nobody has ever died from smoking pot really destroys all your credibility. Like anything smokey that you breathe into your lungs it can cause cancer. Like anything that affects your mind it needs to be cleaned out of your blood by your liver and damages that organ as well.

Furthermore, like anything that affects your mind, like alcohol, it causes your reflexes to be slowed and increases your likelihood to have a car accident. Also, the "muchies" and lethargic effect of weed are more likely to make one eat unhealthy food and be less active.

I think it should be legalized, but to claim no one has EVER died form it only makes you look foolish and easy to disregard as a loon (or better yet a stoned out fool). So does writing a 25+ paragraph essay on a blog that no one will read, because it only makes you look like a loon to write it and who wants to waste their time reading the paranoid rantings of a stoned out loon. They are not even interesting enough to listen to when your stoned.

BobConstantine's picture

No self ownership = slavery

Alcohol and tobacco kill hundreds of thousands of people every year. Marijuana kills zero. These facts come from the Califano Report. Also people die from obesity related diseases every day, should we arrest them too?

When peaceful people do not own their own bodies, somebody else does. When somebody else owns your body, logically you are enslaved.

The United States has about 5% of the world's population yet it incarcerates nearly 25% of the world's prisoners. The U.S.A. leads the world in prisoners. Many of them are black and many of them are incarcerated for the "crime" of owning themselves. Still think this is a "free country"?

Might I suggest that a "real crime" involves a victim that was harmed or stolen from? When people are owning themselves and harming nobody that is a victimless crime.

People that advocate government initiating violence against peaceful people are sick.
That mindset leads to holocausts, genocide and slavery.

Who owns YOUR body?

BobConstantine's picture

No self ownership = slavery

Alcohol and tobacco kill hundreds of thousands of people every year. Marijuana kills zero. These facts come from the Califano Report. Also people die from obesity related diseases every day, should we arrest them too?

When peaceful people do not own their own bodies, somebody else does. When somebody else owns your body, logically you are enslaved.

The United States has about 5% of the world's population yet it incarcerates nearly 25% of the world's prisoners. The U.S.A. leads the world in prisoners. Many of them are black and many of them are incarcerated for the "crime" of owning themselves. Still think this is a "free country"?

Might I suggest that a "real crime" involves a victim that was harmed or stolen from? When people are owning themselves and harming nobody that is a victimless crime.

People that advocate government initiating violence against peaceful people are sick.
That mindset leads to holocausts, genocide and slavery.

Who owns YOUR body?

jeffyd's picture
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i find ignorance and

i find ignorance and intolerance far more detrimental to society then any drug use. Fat people put their lives more at risk then pot smokers.

mbthedragon's picture

Hey man, he was just growing

Hey man, he was just growing enough dope to try and help out all of those sick souls with back problems, mental problems and drug problems. Its called medical marijuana man. The democrats revival tool. Tune in turn on and vote democrat man.

jsknow's picture

Can you handle the truth?

How's that drug war kool-aid tasting? Some people are so addicted to drug war propaganda that rehab could never free them from their addiction. Every time I post drug war facts I can feel their addiction being fried like that egg in that propaganda PSA that convinced them their brain would fry if they ever smoked a joint. Lol, I live to post this stuff! I even get a few people “clean” once in a while, it is kind of like exercising an evil spirit when science and facts finally sink into a drug war propaganda addicted mind and they come out from under the drug war ether.

NO ONE, IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, OF ANY AGE, IN ALL OF RECORDED HISTORY, HAS EVER DIED FROM THE INGREDIENTS IN MARIJUANA. MANY HAVE DIED FROM ITS PROHIBITION. In the US we arrest someone on marijuana charges every 38 seconds and your tax dollars pay to keep these non-violent people in jail that have done no harm to their self or anyone else, while rapists and murders are let out to make room for the evil pot heads.

ALL MAJOR AUTHORITIES AGREE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF DRUG-RELATED VIOLENT CRIME IS CAUSED BY THE PROHIBITION AGAINST DRUGS, RATHER THAN THE DRUGS THEMSELVES. THIS WAS THE SAME DURING ALCOHOL PROHIBITION. ALCOHOL PROHIBITION CREATED A VIOLENT CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER DRUG PROHIBITION HAS. THESE VIOLENT CRIMES SHOULD BE LABELED PROHIBITION RELATED, NOT DRUG RELATED. ENDING ALCOHOL PROHIBITION IS EXACTLY WHY YOU DON’T SEE SHOOTOUTS OVER THAT DRUG TRADE ANY MORE.

Marijuana is not a “gateway” drug, there is absolutely no evidence that using marijuana CAUSES people to use any other drug. In fact the vast majority of marijuana users never use any other illegal drug. Marijuana which accounts for roughly half of all drug arrests, never was a serious threat to society, families, or individuals and it never will be. Because of that bad law being implemented based on lies by a few people that stood to gain financially from marijuana’s prohibition and them intentionally deceiving lawmakers, literally millions of Americans that choose to use that plant for ANY purpose are criminalized needlessly.

Many big corporations that see marijuana as competition contribute heavily to promoting marijuana prohibition. Alcohol, tobacco, petroleum, cotton, timber, chemical and pharmaceutical companies, just to name a few all see marijuana as unwanted competition and of course the government contributes billions every year to keep their unnecessarily harmful and wasteful, oppressive prohibition cash cow alive and well. I’ve seen estimates that contributions toward drug prohibition may be as much as 1 million dollars per day. However, once people learn the truth about drugs and drug prohibition they overwhelmingly favor rationally regulating rather than prohibiting drugs. That’s partly why 14 states have bucked the federal government and passed medical marijuana laws already and several have decriminalized. The federal government recently revised its policy about prosecuting medical marijuana patients that are in compliance with state laws. That’s a huge step in the right direction. It proves when enough voters take action rational progress toward regulation and away from prohibition is being made.

On March 22, 1972 the Richard Nixon-appointed, 13-member National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse recommended the decriminalization of marijuana, concluding, "[Marijuana's] relative potential for harm to the vast majority of individual users and its actual impact on society does not justify a social policy designed to seek out and firmly punish those who use it." However, Tricky Dick Nixon decided to trach the facts and science and promote his own political career by lying to the voters about the "evil weed" and fool everyone into believing he was getting tough on "crime".

In 1988, after reviewing all evidence brought forth in a lawsuit against the government's prohibition of medical marijuana, the DEA's own administrative law judge (Judge Francis Young) wrote:
"The evidence in this record clearly shows that marijuana has been accepted as capable of relieving the distress of great numbers of very ill people, and doing so with safety under medical supervision. It would be unreasonable, arbitrary and capricious for the Drug Enforcement Administration to continue to stand between those sufferers and the benefits of this substance in light of the evidence." Judge Young went on to say: "MARIJUANA, IN ITS NATURAL FORM, IS ONE OF THE SAFEST THERAPEUTICALLY ACTIVE SUBSTANCES KNOWN. IN STRICT MEDICAL TERMS, MARIJUANA IS SAFER THAN MANY FOODS WE COMMONLY CONSUME." Judge Young recommended that the DEA allow marijuana to be prescribed as medicine.

Google: "Opinion and recommended ruling, Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law and Decision of Administrative Law Judge", if you want to read the entire COURT RULING.

That same document contains the following:
"7. Drugs used in medicine are routinely given what is called an LD-50. The LD-50 rating indicates at what dosage fifty percent of test animals receiving a drug will die as a result of drug induced toxicity. A number of researchers have attempted to determine marijuana's LD-50 rating in test animals, without success. Simply stated, researchers have been unable to give animals enough marijuana to induce death.

8. At present it is estimated that marijuana's LD-50 is around 1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response.

9. In practical terms, marijuana cannot induce a lethal response as a result of drug-related toxicity."

Unless you are living isolated from the world, you know millions of Americans are breaking not only the marijuana laws but every other drug prohibition law on a huge scale. Who is profiting from this?... Criminals, gangsters and terrorists, BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE GOVERNMENT. Regulating drugs will instantly put virtually every illegal drug dealer out of business. Preventing criminals, gangsters and terrorists from being funded by the multi billion dollar annual illegal drug trade is a major reason but far from the only sound reasoning supporting regulating rather than prohibiting drugs.

Once the voters have the honest facts about drugs and drug policy, 80% support drug policy reform that implements the ONLY long term proven methods of effectively dealing with drug use and addiction – “HONEST DRUG EDUCATION AND RATIONAL LEGAL DRUG REGULATION”. Look at tobacco. That is the ONLY real success in US history when it comes to significantly reducing drug related death, disease and drug use. According to Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, roughly half of all tobacco users have stopped using that often deadly and highly addictive drug in the last couple of decades. We didn’t prohibit tobacco. We didn’t have a war on tobacco users. This amazing feat was accomplished through HONEST DRUG EDUCATION AND RATIONALLY REGULATING THE LEGAL USE OF TOBACCO. The drug war has NEVER reduced use of ANY illegal drug BY 50%, NOT A SINGLE ONE!

Drug warriors are continuously subverting the Constitutional laws and Constitutional rights and trying to convince the citizens of this Country that they are not capable of making their own decisions about what they choose to put in our own bodies. That’s the same tactic that was used on the American Indians, “you’re not smart enough to govern yourselves, you need the “Great Father in Washington to tell you what’s best for you”. We all know how well that turned out for the native Americans. The drug war is no different. It is a hoax, a smokescreen, designed to make everyone think the drug war prohibitionists are doing something good for America and Americans while in fact they are taking away Constitutional rights and freedoms like no other policy in the history of this Country and CAUSING unnecessary, unproductive harm and waste on an astronomical scale.

IT’S FAR PAST TIME FOR THE VOTERS IN THIS COUNTRY TO DEMAND RATIONAL MARIJUANA POLICY BASED IN SCIENCE AND FACTS RATHER THAN REEFER MADNESS AND UNSUBSTANTIATED RIDICULOUS UNTRUTHFUL DRUG WAR PROPAGANDA AND SCARE TACTICS.

If you nay sayers had any knowledge of marijuana at all you would know just how crazy you sound when you post things that let the world know you think this kid's Dad was so high on marijuana that he let his kid wander off. This is marijuana not sleeping pills, alcohol or heroin. It causes a mild euphoria not a coma. You can only get just so high on pot and after that you can smoke it till the cows come home and all you are going to get is a headache from overdoing it.

Now let's really turn up the heat on that egg, shall we? Let's talk about hard drugs and how some other countries deal with them.

Take a look at the way the Swiss have dealt with their heroin problem. You can watch a lot about this in the video titled “Jack Cole Interview” on the Just Say Know website (link below). In Switzerland they set up government clinics where heroin addicts can go and get pharmaceutical grade heroin. If they don’t have the money to pay for the drug it’s free. That instantly put every illegal heroin dealer in that Country out of business. They can’t compete with free. Anyone that wants heroin can go into a government clinic up to 3 times a day and inject it. There are medical personnel on hand and anyone that wants to kick their habit is given counseling and help toward that goal. THE RESULTS ARE THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN A SINGLE HEROIN OVERDOSE THERE IN MORE THAN 13 YEARS. SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST AIDS AND HEPATITIS INFECTION IN ALL OF EUROPE. CRIME FELL BY 60% BECAUSE NO ONE IS STEALING OR PROSTITUTING THEIR SELF TO PAY FOR THEIR HEROIN AND AFTER A 10 YEAR STUDY, THEY DOCUMENTED THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN 82% DECLINE IN NEW HEROIN USERS. PLEASE TELL ME WHY THE DRUG WAR SEEMS LIKE BETTER POLICY THAN THAT. NO ONE WENT TO JAIL AND NO ONE GOT KILLED. THIS PROGRAM IS FAR LESS EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT WE ARE DOING AND FAR LESS HARMFUL.

Let's compare the results of two roughly comparable major cities which both have a drug problem. The cities are New York, and Liverpool, England. In New York, heroin and cocaine addicts suffer from tremendous medical problems. In Liverpool, England, most heroin and cocaine addicts suffer few medical problems. In New York, most drug addicts are unemployed criminals. In Liverpool, most drug addicts are gainfully employed taxpayers. In New York, crime committed by drug addicts is a major problem. In Liverpool, it is a very minor problem. In New York, drug addicts often have their children taken away and live under miserable conditions. In Liverpool, most addicts live with their families in stable homes and manage to raise healthy, well-adjusted children. In New York, thousands of babies are permanently damaged every year by their mother's drug use. In Liverpool, health authorities report no cases of harm to infants as a result of their mother's drug use. In New York, sixty percent of all intravenous drug users are infected with AIDS, and they are a major cause of the spread of AIDS. In Liverpool, only one percent of the intravenous drug users are infected with AIDS and they are a very minor source of infection for the rest of the population. In the United States, drug use is illegal and the police hunt down drug users to throw them in prison. Four thousand people died from illegal drugs in the US last year and we now have more than 600,000 people in prison on drug charges. In Liverpool, England, the police do not arrest drug users any more. Instead, health care workers seek them out and encourage them to come in for counseling and medical treatment. Both counseling and medical treatment are provided on demand. The medical treatment often includes maintenance doses of narcotics under the management of a physician. Liverpool, England, has adopted the same approach as the Netherlands and has had substantially the same results. They both chose decriminalization.
Sources for this information date back to December 27, 1992. Although the information is somewhat behind the times, the message remains the same. http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/basicfax11.htm

You should also read this:
World Health Organization survey of 17 countries finds that the USA has the highest rates of marijuana and cocaine use. http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/90295/

Visit the Just Say Know website and learn the real truth about drugs and the drug war:
Internet Explorer web browser: http://jsknow.angelfire.com/home
With All Other Browsers: http://jsknow.angelfire.com/index.html

Those eggs done yet?

By the way I do not work for NORML or any of the drug policy reform groups that are trying so hard to educate the public about the honest drug and drug addiction science and facts. I am an illegal alien that works for the drug cartels. I own several planes, boats, tractor trailers and five homes in wealthy neighborhoods. I have fourteen wives and thirty five children and have never done an honest days work in my life. I put billions of dollars in my pocket every year. None of this would be possible if drugs were regulated like alcohol and tobacco. I will never get caught because I pay people very well to do the dirty work and if they get caught they know, they and their families will be killed if they talk too much. I am in control of the drug trade. I decide how pure or contaminated the drugs will be. I decided what drugs will be sold, how potent they will be, what age my customers will be and where I will sell my drugs. (not really but I hope I made my point)

Eggs anyone?

Alexander Nevsky's picture

BREAKING NEWS?????

Endangering the welfare of a child or providing resources?

A man does what he can to provide for his children.

Alcohol, prescription drugs or marijuana, what is the difference?

It seems the government does not like to punish addictive substances, however……chooses to destroy the lives of those enjoying and profiting from Earth’s NATURAL bounties. This is not a moral issue it’s a (I can’t tax issue). Marijuana was not the problem.

Thank you - governmental rescue resources for providing the service and safe return!! Good Job!!!

Law enforcement and DHS officials need not be Judgmental but human……….

After last Novembers vote, it’s pretty obvious that Maine people don’t see this as a problem.

If the Sun Journal stopped the drama (Breaking News) on pot charges and actual had journalistic integrity, I would not be writing this.

Why is selling the news more important than the actual news.

I guess seeing a car ad means more!

seekingthetruth's picture

Because Alexander

Some of us haven't given up on the war on drugs. And yes, pot is a schedule 1 drug.

This may not matter to you, but it does to me.

Alexander Nevsky's picture

It’s not a want of drugs….

It’s not a want of drugs…..It’s a want of personal freedom….Keep that in mine at all times!! Schedule (that) Class (this)……bla bla bla … I do respect your thoughts and views~ Thanks

Erin's picture
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Heres an easy solution to

Heres an easy solution to both problems, stop having kids ;)

seekingthetruth's picture

Yes Ksandra, some kids of non-druggies turn out bad

But the odds of a child being successful in life drop dramatically when the parents are disfunctional, whether it be alcoholism, abuse, crime or just simple drug use.

Ground this in your reality.

Children of druggies are way more likely to be disfunctional adults than children of non-druggies.

I did not say that children of non-druggies did not grow up to be disfunctional also, I simply said that the children of drug using parents are way more likely to be druggies and disfunctional than non-using parents.

I cannot believe that you would even consider that stoned parents are not disfunctional. Do you really think that stoned parents (as a whole) can raise children as well as sober parents?

OK, if we compared at ramdom, 100 stoned parents with 100 sober parents. What percentage of each group would raise children that are not disfunctional? Do you really (since you are "grounded in reality") think that the percentage of stoned parents will even come close?

Ksandra's picture
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Actually yes I do. Smoking

Actually yes I do. Smoking pot is not a precursor of being dysfunctional and not smoking pot does not make you functional. Lots of breeders out there fall into both categories and none of them qualify as parents. Lots of very good solid parents out there smoke pot responsibly or drink responsibly. The key is to all good things let there be moderation. Some of the bible thumping holier than thou never touched a drink or a drug types are the worst of the worst of parents raising totally indulgent spoiled selfish brats who have no tolerance for anyone who doesn't think exactly as they have been brainwashed to believe is the one and only right and true way of being. There are many people who end up in prison from these fine upstanding families. It is far from as cut and dry simple as do they drink or use drugs to determine if someone is a breeder or an actual parent. I've personally known several wonderful parents who smoked pot after the kids went to bed at night and some really sorry breeders who never drank or smoked anything. If only life was as cut and dry simple as some seem to think it is.

xyz's picture

Ksandra please stop feeding the troll, seekingthetruth

If you look at it's profile it only joined to be able to comment on this story. So please stop feeding this troll, he is more righteous than everyone else and is all knowing and all seeing. LOL!!!

seekingthetruth's picture

Moderation? In all things?

How bout Rape? or Suicide? or Murder?

How do you do any of these things in moderation?

Oh, they are all illegal you say???? Well so is dope!

My point is that some things should not be done at all. Forget Moderation.

Yes, some good people are bad parents. Some parents try hard to be a good example but it still doesn't keep their children from turning out bad. So what? Does that mean we don't hold disfunctional parents responsible just because some good parents fail?

BobConstantine's picture

Helping runaway slaves was

Helping runaway slaves was illegal. Not turning in your Jewish neighbors to the Nazi was illegal. Alcohol was illegal. Presently owning your own body by imbibing in a naturally occurring plant is illegal. Your point of illegal = automatically bad is one I'm hoping you'll reconsider.

It used to be legal to beat your wife, was that a "good law" ?

To find out how jurors can change or nullify bad laws go to fija.org

That's the fully informed jury association. Have a nice day.

seekingthetruth's picture

Pothead parents are good parents?

Guess what, some kids of alcoholic parents turn out good. Some kids of pedophile parents turn out good. Children of a types of disfunctional families are disadvantaged because of their drug using parents.

Just because you graduated from college with druggie parents doesnt mean all kids will do the same thing. If this is the truth then you should feel blessed, cause most children of druggies are not so lucky.

You cant tell me that parents with mind-altering drugs causing misjudgement can raise their children as well as sober parents.

Raising a child is hard enough with a sober mind, don't tell me that a person with a mind altered by dope can do just as well.

And one exception does not make a case for the dope smokers.

T's picture

Maybe you should calm down

Maybe you should calm down and have another beer....

Ksandra's picture
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*chuckles* Nice try but I

*chuckles* Nice try but I don't drink either. Though I'm sure you do. :)

Ksandra's picture
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Some kids of non drug using

Some kids of non drug using parents end up in jail, commit suicide, etc. The causes of such things are not so cut and dry as to who does or does not use a drug. The hypocrisy of many of those who yell how evil pot is while they pop those sedatives, pain killers, anti-depressants, anti-anxiety drugs all day every day, but hey they are different they are prescribed after all, never mind they alter your mind and perceptions just as much and in most case far more than smoking pot does. For the record, no I'm not a pot smoker. I am however grounded in reality.

seekingthetruth's picture

PS Nobody in my house drinks or "pops pills"

Why do stoners always use this argument?

It doesn't matter what drugs, pills, or alcohol others put into their body, I dont put any into mine.

But if I did, I wouldnt point to someone elses addiction to justify mine.

Potheads can point to beer, whisky, or whatever, but it doesn't justify their drug use.

BobConstantine's picture

if you are seeking truth you

if you are seeking truth you are 1/2 way there. Nobody should force you or anyone else to put anything into your body. The 1/2 you seem to miss is nobody should prevent YOU from deciding what you or anyone else puts into THEIR body.

seekingthetruth's picture

Child Endangerment

We don't know from the story just how stoned this guy was when his child ran off on his own, but I doubt very seriously that he grew dope but didnt smoke it. And since he had so much of it available he probably smoked quite a bit.

But I gaurantee you that the pot smokers on here will swear up and down that smoking pot doesn't affect one's ability to be a parent, and had nothing to do with the neglect that led to this little guy walking off on his own. They will deny that smoking pot can cause one to be disfunctional at all. Excuses don't change the reality of drug use.

A person who is high on dope all the time cannot possibly be a responsible parent.

Centarie2000's picture
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an autistic child can and do

an autistic child can and do walk away and get lost from even the most sober and professional parents.

Centarie2000's picture
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an autistic child can and do

an autistic child can and do walk away and get lost from even the most sober and professional parents.

Wee222ssa's picture

I don't necessarily agree

I don't necessarily agree with the statement "a person who is high on dope all the time can not possibly be a responsible parent" I grew up in a family that did smoke and my parents where some of the best parents around. I grew up fine, went to college have an amazing job and live great. Not one time did I think that my parents where not responsible or anything of that nature. If it were not for my parents I never would be where I am today.

Former Maine-iac's picture
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Your great upbringing...

If you had such a great upbringing, imagine what you could have had if they hadn't smoked pot...Maybe you would have learned how to SPELL!

seekingthetruth's picture

Where are you today?

Are you on the staff at NORML?

Or NAMBLA?

Or better yet, My Daddy was a teacher, and he refused to join the teacher's union, which takes it marching orders fron the NEA.

Are you on staff at NEA?

If you are doing so well, and it appears you are very liberal, then just how well are you doing?

Pot smoking liberal? What else?

BobConstantine's picture

Some of the more conservative

Some of the more conservative people you will ever meet are in favor of Marijuana legalization. If you want to have a small government that doesn't intrude in your life why would you be in favor of Prohibition? It costs billions every year to arrest and incarcerate peaceful people that have never harmed anyone. The "war on drugs" is a huge government jobs program that has stealing liberty rather than protecting liberty at the heart of it. If you are seeking the truth, why can't you seek your own truth and leave others that have never harmed you alone? Do you own YOURSELF?

Erin's picture

WAIT!

I already know the argument to the child losing his home.......ITS THE GOVERNMENTS FAULT!!!

BobConstantine's picture

If it isn't the government's

If it isn't the government's fault that people are arrested for the victimless crime of self ownership, whose fault is it? Who owns YOUR body anyway?

seekingthetruth's picture

"Hey son, will you bring me that bag of weed off my dresser?"

Or, "Hey son, did you get all the pot plants watered before school?"

People never cease to amaze me. And what's gonna amaze me even more is when the pot smokers start posting on here and defending this father's right "to grow herb"

Why do you call it herb anyway? It's dope. Just like that PSA back in the 60's where the pusher says to the 10 year old, "Sure kid, why do you think they call it dope?"

Stories like this just PO me to no end. People say that pot is harmless. Ask this 3 year old that will surely lose his home if it is harmless.

Well, God Bless this child, and Thank you Lord for the help the child can now get.

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