Shame on Sen. Snowe

I read in the July 29 Sun Journal that Sen. Olympia Snowe is going to support the elevation of Elena Kagan to the U.S. Supreme Court. Shame on Sen. Snowe.

Snowe claims that the nominee has "respect for the rule of law." That is demonstrably false.

Kagan barred military recruiters from Harvard University. Her explanation for doing that was utterly inadequate. Her evasive testimony to the Judiciary Committee was characterized by Sen. Jeff Sessions as "totally divorced from reality." That's a polite way of saying that she lied.

Congress had passed a law explicitly making her actions illegal. As long as Harvard received federal funds, she had no right to refuse military recruiters access to students on campus.

Beyond that, she has shown a hostility to the Second Amendment right of Americans to "keep and bear arms" for personal protection. She apparently thinks that we may safely rely on the police to protect the public from rapists and murderers. We all know that in every case, the police arrive after the murder has occurred. Through the years, thousands of women have been murdered while they were supposedly under a protection order.

Finally, we learn that Snowe is willing to elevate to the nation's highest court a person who has had no real courtroom experience as a judge, never had any business experience, never met a payroll, has been primarily a very liberal political activist, and will certainly have an enormous impact on life in the U.S.A. if confirmed.

Harvey Lord, South Paris

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RONALD RIML's picture

Damn, Harvey!!! Judges should have had to meet Payrolls??

Who did you want them to have on the take???

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To Veritas....a police/gun question

I reposted this comment again in the hope you will see it. Sorry for the inconvenience this may have caused anyone.

Veritas, I know we had a *testy* exchange in a separate thread, but I actually have a question that you may be able to answer...

I know you said you are a retired police officer. It seems like a few people participating in this thread seem to think that the police are not doing their jobs and that it is up to the civilian to arm themselves and take the law into their own hands. What is your take, as a former officer, on the notion of people arming themselves as self-defense? Clearly people already do this, but I wonder how things would need to change at the police level to deal with such a shift? I know police already are overworked and underpaid, but I only see carrying guns as contributing to the obstacles police already face. I am not understanding how this could create a more stable, lawful society.

I live in Arizona, and it seems like everyone and their brother carry weapons here (I dont think you can conceal them in AZ). Was in walmart last week and this dude went to bend over and pick up something from a botton asile shelf and his handgun fell out of his sweatpants and onto the floor. Sure glad it did not go off. My fiance and I were also walking the dogs and one of my neighbors walked by and petted the dogs, and I could not help but notice his handgun (he saw that my eyes got big and explained it was a 9mm, whatever that is). I was also in a restaurant, and a man and woman had matching guns and hosters...It just scares me to think that just about anyone can carry a gun.

Just a couple of thoughts.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Well thought out and

Well thought out and brilliantly constructed comment. I'll bet it's all true, too.

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2nd Amendment

The second amendment applied to a time of war against the British and not to the present tense of America. What we have now is a failure to communicate to paraphrase Cool Hand Luke. We have the zealots of arms control in open frankness about their intentions for weaponry. All the while during the time of the second there was no such thing as full automatic sub-machine guns, assault rifles, and who can forget the sniper and school shootings. Let alone how Bush protected the black market in his ruling against suing gun makers. As the gun makers slowly sell into the black market and provide access to weaponry gee would the founding fathers have hung Bush as a traitor and made examples of his treacherous cronies such as Rove by the same examples?

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Invading force

You sight it like a paranoid case living a charade under the facade of American consumerism in love with the free market for illegal arms sales. This is nothing except a ploy to exploit you're own lackluster sense of self-determination within the conventional arms market. Let us see here now that you express having semi-automatic and fully automatic weapons imagine those in the hands of KKK leaders, Neo-Nazi leaders, and last but not least home grown terrorists of different inclinations and pathologies. The extreme Christian Right and other such facets of their ilk. As for protecting the gun companies you limp the company line really well, so the families of Columbine should not be reimbursed? Despite, the factors that certain marketers had sold the weapons on the black market?

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What

They went through a black market arms dealers and obtained the weapons which was well documented by Fox and even by MSNBC. Do you want to keep pulling the ruse? Even the dealer admitted he was pressured by the manufactures to sell them on the street. After having that information though President Bush stopped all investigations and signed his little bill into law to protect those in the black market and the weapons makers themselves. You took my point and spun it all like Karl Rove so enjoy these little points.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

We must never forget, KD,

We must never forget, KD, everything they've been doing to us so far, they've been doing while we still have guns. Just think for a minute...about what will happen if we EVER allow them to take those guns away frum us.

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Gee...sorry but it sounds

Gee...sorry but it sounds like you are CON-fused about the CON-stitution. Are you a CON-stitutional attorney? If not, were you there when the founding fathers wrote the CON-stitution? If you were you are one OLD cranky yankee. It seems the "chicken little" anti second amendment people want to paint a picture that if everyone had guns it would be the wild west all over again. Guess what, there are hundreds of millions of weapons in our society and the rampent "guns-a-blazin'" isn't happening. Just take a look at what happened in Kennesaw GA. back in the early 80's every houshold had to have a gun and subsiquently violent home burgleries when done I've read as much as 89% but as we all know statistics are only as valid as who is collecting the information. I do however believe there was a significant reduction of violent crime and The city of Kennesaw was selected by Family Circle magazine as one of the nation's "10 best towns for families". So sorry to CON-tradict your post but I fail to see why you are attempting to paint such a vile picture of gun owership.

One last thing...what do you derive from the name calling anyway? It is clear you are an intelligent person who could make their case with out the "Republi-CON" name calling. It detracts and debases your arguments. Maybe just notch it down a bit and make your points...I think the board and its posters would appreciate it if we all, yes including me since I tend to react to tron, SSDD, Lil, veritas...et.al. So what is it that makes you cross the line of logical argument to emmotionally driven argument? I sincerely would like to know.

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Honestly, at times it is more

Honestly, at times it is more of little brothers and sisters fighting than an open discussion that adds anything to the subject matter.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Very keen observation

Very keen observation

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wow

Lil, your comment really is out of line here. Just because someone has a 'school' education does not mean they are smarter then someone else. I know people with 'street' smarts that are more knowledgeable then someone with a 'school' education. Some people with street smarts are smarter then someone with a masters degree! It all starts with 'common sense'...

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I agree

I agree a piece of paper does not confer intelligence, and I think you may have misinterpreted my comment. It was in reply to thinkingman's comment about how he's oh so smart, but couldn't spell graduation.

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rants

And your juvenile rants against tron add what?

RONALD RIML's picture

If you don't want to be outsmarted by 'Street-People'

Then don't 'Play in the Street'

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"Now you know how normal

"Now you know how normal people felt when Bush put his Zealots in there."

Interesting that you consider yourself to be "normal Ralphie." Can you describe what normal is.

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thank you

thank you cranky yankee. What was meant by the second amendment over two hundred years ago has changed as our society has evolved. Regardless, people will read it word for word and interpret it out of context.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

We have the right to own,

We have the right to own, bear and carry guns. Why does that require so much interpretation? Seems pretty simple; even the parrot gets it and he's a lib, as most of you should know by now.

RONALD RIML's picture

You'de better read the decision.

The court didn't uphold the Amendment as written. Scalia, in a 5-4 decision, amputated the prefatory clause of the 2nd Amendment.

But hey, what's the Constitution when we completely ignore a few clauses, more or less. The Framers didn't know what the flock they were wasting ink on, anyway.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Well put, pub....

Well put, pub....

RONALD RIML's picture

Second Amendment Remedies.....

That's what Tea-Party Activist Sharon Angle - now Republican Senatorial Candidate in Nevada preaches as a solution to her Democratic foe Harry Reid.

Sure...like Lee Harvey Oswald exercised a 'Second Amendment Remedy' against the Kennedy Administration.

Where do these freakin' whack jobs come from????

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Second Amendment, I do have a legit question

Veritas, I know we had a *testy* exchange in a separate thread, but I actually have a question that you may be able to answer...

I know you said you are a retired police officer. It seems like a few people participating in this thread seem to think that the police are not doing their jobs and that it is up to the civilian to arm themselves and take the law into their own hands. What is your take, as a former officer, on the notion of people arming themselves as self-defense? Clearly people already do this, but I wonder how things would need to change at the police level to deal with such a shift? I know police already are overworked and underpaid, but I only see carrying guns as contributing to the obstacles police already face. I am not understanding how this could create a more stable, lawful society.

I live in Arizona, and it seems like everyone and their brother carry weapons here (I dont think you can conceal them in AZ). Was in walmart last week and this dude went to bend over and pick up something from a botton asile shelf and his handgun fell out of his sweatpants and onto the floor. Sure glad it did not go off. My fiance and I were also walking the dogs and one of my neighbors walked by and petted the dogs, and I could not help but notice his handgun (he saw that my eyes got big and explained it was a 9mm, whatever that is). I was also in a restaurant, and a man and woman had matching guns and hosters...It just scares me to think that just about anyone can carry a gun.

Just a couple of thoughts.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

America...land of the free;

America...land of the free; home of the well armed.

RONALD RIML's picture

Well Armed - but Clueless....

Add booze and Faux-snooze and you've got a real recipe for disaster!!!!

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

I know...ain't it cool?

I know...ain't it cool? (paraphrasing the parrot here)

RONALD RIML's picture

Why not?? Justice Scalia had no problem with that.....

Under District of Columbia V. Heller, 554US(2008) He ruled that the prefatory clause of the 2nd Amendment: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State", had absolutly no bearing on the Amendment's meaning.

So he essential lopped it off.

Yep - performed a frontal lobotomy right there on the Second Amendment; in fact, basing much of his opinion on 'English Common Law' - the same Law which now forbids Britons the private ownership of firearms.

Neato!! Jurisprudential gymnastics capable of only the most activist judges. Activities Conservatives always decry - unless it benefits them.

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I always vote Democrat

That's why I voted for Snowe! Keep up the great work Republican Senators. (wink, wink)

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confirmed

She's been confirmed, take that!

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HA HA

How do you like it now!!!!! Now you know how normal people felt when Bush put his Zealots in there. Take some rolaids and wait 6 more years and MAYBE by then people will have forgot about your BUSH so you get another Bush in. Jeb could finish where W left off.

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Second Amendment

Ok, strictly speaking, the Second Amendment does state the right to "keep and bear arms" like you said. It think it is apparent, though, that with time our definitions of this right has changed or at least should be re-evaluated. I have a difficult time with the rationale that everyone should bear arms for "self-defense". Have we, as a society, reverted back to the ideas so prominent in the days of the "Wild West"??? I find it disturbing that everyone has a right to bear arms and the "winner" will be the one who draws the quickest. What would happen if everyone decided to take the law into their own hands????

Is shooting people a logical solution many problems? This notion is so renegade!! I absolutely do not condone rapists (they disgust me), but isnt it hypocritical to declare someone guilty without giving one the benefit of doubt, and shooting them because we presume they are guilty?? I find this poor justification for the right to bear arms. Furthermore, police are overburdened and underpaid. Please do not blame them for all that goes wrong. It is unfortunate, but the police cannot be "Everywhere" all the time.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

"What would happen if

"What would happen if everyone decided to take the law into their own hands???"...Easy..law and order would prevail. An armed society would be a polite society. How's the current system working? Do you see the national crime rate going down any?

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well...

If it was left up to people like you, well, we would have a bunch of lawless, renegade pirates!!!

Not sure what your definition of "law and order" is, but it scares the hell out of me.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

People like ME? What do YOU

People like ME? What do YOU know about people like ME? My definition of law and order SHOULD scare the hell out of you because it's what we're going to end up with if the democrats remain in power. It's called ANARCHY.

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problem

Notice any problem here? "only one of us gradated from high school and college, so yes we do know who the stupid one is" And what was that about stones?

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Wow....is that true? That

Wow....is that true?
That explains a whole bunch of stuff on so many levels.

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