Question 4: The time for TABOR

Dire predictions always follow initiatives that could decrease the amount of money government may spend. Depending on who's talking, tax-and-spending limiting initiatives like the Taxpayer Bill of Rights will either cause schoolchildren to shiver if enacted, or issue a license to spend if rejected.

Neither side has the monopoly on honesty in this debate. The truth lies somewhere between. That's why TABOR, in Colorado, has been described as the most hated and beloved law in their land. The important question is what TABOR would do to Maine, if Question 4 is approved by voters on Nov. 3.

To answer this question about the future, let's first consider the past. This year's vote is the third tax-capper Maine voters have considered. There was Palesky in 2004 and TABOR I in 2006. Both were rejected, based largely in promises by officials that the message about spending have been heard.

Two major policy initiatives followed Palesky and the senior TABOR: LD 1 and school consolidation, neither of which has had the desired effect of reducing spending or cutting taxes. The limits of LD 1 have been routinely exceeded, and school consolidation has been watered down too much to be considered a comprehensive money-saving policy. It has merits, just not as that.

So despite promises, it's unclear whether Augusta has really gotten the message about spending and taxes. There was a breakthrough this session, when a truly sensible and smart tax reform bill was passed, but it has been put on hiatus by People's Veto. It should be upheld, because it is progress.

But as of this moment, its future is uncertain.

Which leaves us with TABOR, and this question: Do we give Augusta another chance to tackle the spending and taxes problem in Maine through the usual channels? This opportunity has been afforded to the state twice before, without significant results. It appears, then, the process is the problem.

So it must change -- which means the time has come for TABOR. On Nov. 3, we urge a "yes" vote on Question 4, to enact the Taxpayer Bill of Rights.

We are concerned that the timing of this initiative is poor; the recession has caused revenue to plummet, and capping spending at recession levels is disquieting. We have faith, though, in the government to be up-front with voters about its needs, and voters to grant government what it requires to operate.

There is no perfect time for TABOR. Yes, the revenue projections for the state are dismal: yet another $200 million needs to be found in the budget, according to latest calculations, in the next round of bloodletting that has passed for budgeting in Augusta recently.

Blame the economic downturn for this. But also blame the lack of foresight by policymakers in restraining spending during boom times. For years, the message has been clearly sent to the State House that what's coming out is not commensurate with what's going in. It's too much.

The recession is evidence that you reap what you sow.

No more messages. No more chances. At some point, endorsing the same process that has failed to garner results so far is fruitless. That's why we are favoring TABOR. It is time to do things differently in Maine.

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Markweee's picture

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TABOR makes sense by

TABOR makes sense by allowing us to vote on issues which were reserved for the conservative votes and see where that got us. Robert, on the other hand would it be better if you finally admitted and talked to say the Hilton folks and allowed a five star rather then a two star to improve the face of Lewiston? Or is that going to be a conservative movement for you when the Hilton's have stated that they themselves are conservatives. I vote to rein in spending from the conservatives and allow for people to vote on their budgets own future. Of course that should have been before voters rather then allowing the town councilors to turn in on their own before that little e-mail debacle and it could have restored sanity of course doing an about face and voting for that fifty grand to go into the Hope Haven for homeless support and additions would have made more sense then allowing for it to go to facades.

Joseph Ziehm
Lewiston, ME
"Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a master in heaven. Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving;" Colossians 4: 1-2

Pulewog's picture

Lets follow the money,

Lets follow the money, Citizens Unified for Maines Future, the anti TABOR organization recently found guilty by a non-partisan State Fiscal Agency in spreading lies and scare tactics in order to defeat TABOR. A little research into the facts, Colorado Education Commissioner Bill Maloney (1997-2007),debunks the story of "unheated schools, teacher shortages, and reduced funding" as simply stories that never happened. Bill Owens the Governor of Colorado, credits TABOR for turning the State around, setting spending priorities, while fully funding state programs and boosting their economy. The fact that a union led attack to gut out TABOR in 2006 was soundly defeated at the polls, Coloradans recognize the benefits in controlling Government spending increases at a moderate rate. They used a mechanism implemented by TABOR to return their tax rebates back to State coffers for a five year period to offset the ailments brought on by the recession. Citizens Unified for Maines Future, a organization directed by people who have made handsome incomes off the taxpayers of Maine, a organization lobbying for agencies consuming over $600,000,000 of the tax burden carried by Mainers have thrown honesty out of the debate in order to keep the spending throttle in their control. Mainer must do the same, YES ON 4

johnshaven's picture

A Colorado poll indicated

A Colorado poll indicated that voters their want to dump TABOR.

jalbrecht1's picture
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During a recession this bad

During a recession this bad idea becomes even worse. Promoted by Washington Billionaires and their front groups like The Heritage Center, the dire predictions of opponents are likely very moderate and even conservative. Since TABOR I failed, State Government has reduced spending but every budget conformed to TABOR I provisions. This radical experiment in oversimplified goveranced, one size fits all budgeting is not only dangerous its unnecessary.
Jon Albrecht Dixfield

Robert61's picture

Yes, instead the democrats

Yes, instead the democrats want us to spend our way out of a recession, which has never worked...anyone notice the size of the federal deficit since Obama took over...guess Bush might have known what he was doing....

skippy's picture
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Tabor or something like it

Tabor or something like it is needed here. The best solution would be to elect a new group of legislators who would use common sense and realize that the taxpayer fund is not a limitless amount of money and would choose to spend that money wisely. Individuals can waste their money on things others consider frivolous, but public officials spending tax dollars cannot and should not do this. Government is meant to take care of those common needs and only those. When fullfilling those common needs care must be taken not to burden those services with luxury items. Does the police chief or department really need an SUV 4X4? Do the schools need all those administrators and office personnel? Does public works need all those folks on simple repair jobs? These are the items that the taxpayers expect government officials to be vigilant on and Tabor is the result of inefficiencies in government management. YES Maine needs Tabor.

Mac antSaior's picture
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Even as one who works in

Even as one who works in education and with one foot in social work, I agree. Augusta has been given ample opportunities to get their act together and refuses. Don't let the "no emergency services" crowd fool you. They just don't want their own sacred cow touched.

It is the undauntable thought, my friend. The one that says, "I'm right!" ~Bobby Sands

Tony602's picture

While I agree that tax

While I agree that tax reform is needed, and more responsible spending by our legislators undertaken, I can't agree with any kind of "tax capping," as proposed by TABOR, for the foreseeable future. Before anyone asks, yes I am one of those "teacher" types. Currently, I am working in a school that has an administrator from the State of California. Prop 13, enacted upon such tax capping measures and republican reform (not the party, but the form of gov't) crippled the education system in California as we all have heard. This administrator, whom I admire greatly, also has a child in our school. The obvious deficiencies in this child's education are glaring. Basic spelling, grammar and math skills slipped through the cracks of this child's education in the Californian system. Now that this child is in high school, it may be too late to learn these basic skills. I am not proposing that all children educated in the State of California fall into this category, but if the child of one administrator falls into this category, how many thousands of other children have been neglected by the Californian system because of legislation such as Prop 13, and now TABOR. What I fear is that personal responsibility as consumers in society is taking a back seat to legislative reform. I still see people waltzing around with brand new Blackberries...still see people driving those monstrously expensive, gas guzzling SUVs...and still see people filling Fishbones, Starbucks and other similar luxury service industry businesses. Add up that $4 coffee bill you spend, everyday, throughout the course of a year ($1424 for those not doing the math)...how far would that daily cup of coffee go towards your property tax bill? I've said before...and I'll say again...that we Maine citizens want to legislate every little problem/dilemma we have. Distracted driver laws, smoking laws (meaning smokers can't be responsible/polite enough to not blow it in your face), hunting, fishing...now taxation. Why can we not be responsible enough to take it upon ourselves to change? Why do we constantly need gov't to do these things for us? What a sad state of affairs Maine is in...not completely because of its gov't...but also because of its citizens.

lead dog's picture

Do you really think the

Do you really think the state can do any better at getting value from that $1424 than a private individual spending his on money?

Big Love's picture

In agreement with Old Bill,

In agreement with Old Bill, R61 and LSJ . I liked this editorial. TABORS not perfect, and we're going to hear a lot of screaming from the usual crowd; teachers, social workers, and welfare recipients, about how this is going to hurt so many of the wrong people. And we'll get the last minute commercial pleas from those addicted to the taxpayers money. We'll see social workers and teachers holding an emaciated, shivering children as they tell us how TABOR will take the food out of their mouths and the clothes off of their backs and the books out of their classrooms. We'll hear stories from firemen,oops, firepersons, policepersons and a few mayors telling us that the streets wont be safe and our houses will burn down if TABOR passes. Regardless of what dumbass (tron) says, this is much more than the doings of a few self-interested city councilors. This has been a problem a long time in the making in Augusta and "they" won't fix it cause they can't help themselves. They're addicted to our tax money. That goes for R's as well as D's.

Govt2Big's picture
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Robert61 and the Editorial

Robert61 and the Editorial Board are 100% right on this one, as We The People of Maine deserve better! True tax reform will only come if we break the status quo mentality in both Augusta and throughout many town offices around Maine... so, please vote on November 3rd and remember three importanr things:
1) Vote YES on Q.2! (lowers the Excise Tax)
2) Vote YES on Q.4! (TABOR NOW will reduce governmental power in Maine)
3) Get active and help us fix the Maine mess!
FMI: www.MaineTaxpayers.com
Your voice really does count,
but you must first speak in order to be heard!

Old Bill's picture

Sorry, Robert, but I must

Sorry, Robert, but I must disagree. The OpEd stated the REAL problem above: "Do we give Augusta another chance to tackle the spending and taxes problem in Maine through the usual channels? This opportunity has been afforded to the state twice before, without significant results." The real problem is not with the process, but with we, the voters. We keep right on bitching about spending by the state and our local communities, and then we keep right on voting is the same tax-and-spend Gang of Idiots to those same elective offices. No, the only real way - and the simplest - is to stop voting for the liberals who got us into this mess in the first place. Get rid of them, and you will see a drastic turn around, for the better of us all!
"The democracy will cease to exist when the government takes from those who would work and gives to those who would not." - Thomas Jefferson.

Robert61's picture

Old BIll, well said, I

Old BIll, well said, I cannot disagree, how long before the voters wake up....other than those who suck at the teets of our states welfare system.

tron's picture

Blame the liberals all you

Blame the liberals all you want, but the right wing wackos are the same. Two years ago the votes of Lewiston elect a rabid bunch of right wingers to the city council, all vowing to reduce spending and property taxes. They turned out to be the same tax and spend officials they campaigned against. Now in the waning days of their tenure, they're about to bond eight million more dollars for road improvements, and probably three million to razed Bates Mill NO5. They spend like drunken sailors, yet all firmly believe in supporting TABOR. Go figure!

Robert61's picture

tron, as you live in Auburn,

tron, as you live in Auburn, I wish you had as much passion for your own perils....

Robert61's picture

ON rare occasion I do agree

ON rare occasion I do agree with these OP eds...this is one time I agree....Tabor is needed in Maine, immediately!

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