Coverage is American right

Working as a policy intern at Consumers for Affordable Health Care this summer placed me into the center of the health-care reform debate. I now speak from my experience to all Maine residents.

With Congress crafting a health reform bill, it's essential for Mainers to voice support for change. American families need access to care they can afford.

A necessary component of reform is having a public health insurance option. Not offering a quality, affordable public option will leave thousands of Mainers and millions of Americans uninsured. People will continue entering emergency rooms rather than seeing primary care physicians — avoiding more effective, less expensive preventive care. This results in billions of dollars in unnecessary costs, forcing our most vulnerable population into enormous debt.

A public option will provide competition — keeping insurance companies in check. An insurance company's main business incentive is to make money. This industry makes multi-billion dollar profits by exploiting customers with exorbitant rates and sparse coverage. Leaving health coverage solely in the hands of for-profit enterprises is ludicrous.

Liken the situation to public school systems. Public schools offer a government-subsidized alternative to private schools. This option exists because sending millions of children who can't afford private school into the world without an education is wrong and would tear the country apart. The same concept applies to health care.

Having quality, affordable health coverage should be every American's right.

Zachary Jylkka, Lewiston

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Frosty kids die because of

Frosty kids die because of HIV/AIDS and you sit here so pious and full of your own pomp along with Gil, Barb, and Jabba its a wonder you give out distorted facts, and when it comes down to reforming it; that is when it starts to become to much for all of you. So kids steal from you when they have cancer gee, Jabba you've a great heart right there and you prove it. Eye to eye your not a man just a pious little child who screams about unfair treatment when you are part of the reasoning behind the unfair treatment. For children who die of cancer in that justification then rightly so they should correct Jabba because they are unemployed as you surmised it correct?

As you stated unemployed leeches who give nothing back to the community because its just so as you phrase it with correct bearings that due to out sourcing and hiring illegal migrant workers such as Wyman's does that takes away American jobs correct? Enough is enough Jabba if I didn't know any better think that you could be a rat manager in a call center cutting commissions or a manager deciding on which worker to ax just for fun. Justification you stated that point clearly of unworking leeches which would also include children with terminal cancers because they are unable to work. Enjoy the food for thought Jabba hope to hear from you soon and Barb can you support children dying of cancer so long as it does not effect the air at your country club?

Joe Ziehm
Lewiston ME

There are two kinds of Republicans in this world moderate and conservative for so long I've picked the moderate that now it is time to consider the path less traveled.

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Joe, In the first place you

Joe, In the first place you are spouting incoherent jibberish. Are you an illegal immigrant by chance? And/or on public assistance? There are places children with cancer can go to get free treatment. St. Judes Hospital, to which I donate money every year, for example. But I CHOOSE to give that money, and am glad to do it. I would give more if you would get your hand out of my pocket and leave me more to give. I give hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars every year Joe, to help people less fortunate than I am. And I love doing it. And that Joe, is the way America is supposed to work. Those that are fortunate help those that are less fortunate. VOLUNTARILY. It happens everyday in America. Many don't give, or give more, because the government hasn't left them enough to feel comfortable, because the government has to support you and your ilk. And Joe it's ok to need help. It's ok to let us know you need help. It's ok to ASK for help. But I rankle when some one DEMANDS help. I rankle when an overly liberal government FORCES me to help. I rankle when the leeches who have figured out how to get something for nothing don't even try to help themselves, but instead demand that I do it for them. And Joe I am not a manager. I am guy WORKING every day for 8-10 hours so that I can pay my own bills, and feed my own children, and save a little for retirement, and yes Joe, give some to those that are less fortunate.

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So then you lied then you

So then you lied then you can afford the donations next question why not afford that donation under a public system? Whats wrong how much do you donate? What is your hourly pay rate? Does it come under commission? Or, does it go to piecemeal work? If you get so offended and rankled by questions and by having that amount can you explain why you do not want that to happen? If its so incoherent then why not place yourself at the forefront and admit something to us if its a donation it feels good; if its for a public option then because of that not being a donation you feel it viable to let children die? Just think those over and get rankled again and call it incoherent that seems to be the reply for anything over your head and why you slickly fade away when it gets overly intelligent for your liking Jabba.

Joe Ziehm
Lewiston ME

There are two kinds of Republicans in this world moderate and conservative for so long I've picked the moderate that now it is time to consider the path less traveled.

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Joe, You are being over

Joe, You are being over dramatic. I have clearly stated that I do good things with my money. You are just being an ass. I also clearly stated that I am not upset about people needing help or asking for help, only those that demand help, and a government that steals from me on their behalf. It's MY money. I earned it. (A concept that may be alien to you.) I should get to decide what to do with it. Again you are either intentionally acting ignorant or are indeed actually ignorant. And yes Joe, there are people who left to their own devices will not give any body any thing. But by-and-large most people want to help their fellow man. We just need the government to leave us enough resources to do that. I once again renew my invitation.

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If you cannot stand the

If you cannot stand the dramatics and questioning then you picked the wrong line of dissertations in public affective area's to deliver your own opinions when you merely back questions stated as fundamentally incoherent when you in truth answer those questions as toward a sliding pay scale. Which of course means due to the donations and public face of turning that card if the donations were made straight to a public option that means then that you would not disagree as it goes toward a better cause. Had to stand up you call children who cannot work leeches on our society then its only fair you answer up to it. Thats why it is strikingly an answer when you use suggestive mediums to approach the aspects of questions not coming when you, yourself cannot answer them. If you call me ignorant then yes you gave your answer to how you feel about it and when asked upon further you gave the donations and then why you don't answer the pay scale question is beyond me.

Joe Ziehm
Lewiston ME

There are two kinds of Republicans in this world moderate and conservative for so long I've picked the moderate that now it is time to consider the path less traveled.

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Joe, You are quite simply

Joe,

You are quite simply looney toons. I can't even tell what you are saying anymore.

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Hey, Jabba, great comment.

Hey, Jabba, great comment. You hit the nail right on the head.

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Just to clarify -- HEALTH

Just to clarify -- HEALTH CARE in the United States is not broken. It's the best in the world. People come to the U.S. in droves to receive our health care. What is broken is the HEALTH INSURANCE industry. It's easy for you jobless leeches to sit your unemployed asses at home and blog about how every one deserves health insurance. Those of us working 40 - 60 hours a week to provide for our families and make ends meet are just wondering how much you think you can take (steal) from us before we get pissed off and say enough is enough? If you look at other countries that have socialized medicine, you will see that the (working) citizenry is taxed at a rate well above sixty percent. I, for one, am not able (or willing) to bear that burden. If you want to talk about rights then I say --- I have a right to keep the money I have worked hard to earn. I have a right to decide to whom, and when, I give that money to some one else. I have a right, when I do give that money to some one else, to put controls on how they spend that money. I have a right to demand that they spend it on food staples and not luxury items like steak and lobster, which I myself can not afford. -- I challenge all of you not working, not supporting yourselves or your families, or your hordes of illegitimate children to just shut up. Stop talking, stop blogging, and in the name of all that is good, for Pete's sake stop demanding more. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

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Freedom of speech is not a

Freedom of speech is not a right you reserve for yourself Jabba and you fight the notion perfectly of how you view that mind set and standard of you and everyone else as the Ubermench in society. I challenge you to stop talking, stop blogging, and stop infringing on the rights of everyone else as we are American citizens. As that right we do have the rights for freedom of speech which you have taken and officially stated as reserved for yourself utterly and completely which is indicative of your last statement. I wonder how much you steal from workers on an hourly rate and base pay. Which also means even under minimum wage that you can afford lobsters credited to the 40-60 hours as is indicated in your own self-supporting statements even with wife kids and that lot. Listen if you want to talk straight, talk straight, and don't you lie just to restrict the rights of speech for others and the rights you grant yourself that would make a perfect communist banter and banner.

Joe Ziehm
Lewiston ME

There are two kinds of Republicans in this world moderate and conservative for so long I've picked the moderate that now it is time to consider the path less traveled.

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Joe, I simply extended an

Joe, I simply extended an ivitation and restricted no one's rights. It is clear by your response here that you neither understood what I said nor are capable of formulating an intelligent response. I now re-extend that invitation.

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You don't people to stop it

You don't people to stop it re-read what you wrote for a second Jabba stop blogging I do believe was a key word. Is that because of an invitation you are more liable to state that case as your own then to bridge into truthfully listening to what others say. Just an invitation not everyone has to listen to you that was more used in McCarthyism as an end result which ended the career or nearly did of Howard Fast. His invitation was losing his career remember that; simple invitations, the Kennedy's, HUAC? I extend this as an invitation if that intensive look is so that you do not have to view any other opinions and leave it as a status quo for others then that will have to be not listed as an invitation. However, rather that could come into play as your singular logical assumption that we have to listen to what you say rather then posting how we fell. I do not accept the invitation and call you out sir as someone whose restrictive outlook is more designated toward how you were raised without a backbone to listen to the opinions of others.

Joe Ziehm
Lewiston ME

There are two kinds of Republicans in this world moderate and conservative for so long I've picked the moderate that now it is time to consider the path less traveled.

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Wow Zach, you rule!! You

Wow Zach, you rule!! You spent an entire summer in a liberal office working without pay because they realize what your skills are worth, and now you are an expert. I am so excited and all aflutter knowing that with your vast wisdom, knowledge, and experience gained in a whole summer that you now are going to tell us peons what we need to know about the non-existent "right" to health care. It's a shame that the founders didn't have access to your fount of knowledge, gained in one whole 3 month summer, when actually designing the Republic. Too damn easy. I Hope You Fail
"In the history of the nation, there has never been a political party so ridiculous as today's Democrats. It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc." Ann Coulter

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By the way, no one should be

By the way, no one should be throughing Nazi around in these blogs. A few exist but you have combine nationalism, racism, militarism, and authoritarianism before you have a Nazi point of view. Many Americans are fascist though.
Jon Albrecht Dixfield

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Rights come from our

Rights come from our consciousness, our evolution as human beings and from our superiority to other creatures (as we see it and for the time being as we see it)
Jon Albrecht Dixfield

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Frostproof, "Rights come

Frostproof,
"Rights come from God". You may believe that but nothing in the founding documents supports such a conclusion. The Declaration of Independence says "creator, not god". Thomas Jefferson was a pure enlightenment rationalist. He believed in nothing supernatural much less a "god". In fact, he wrote the Jefferson bible by removing all supernatural references. His creator was nature pure and simple. No one challenged his reference to creator. Had they they would not be referring to the "Christian" undeerstanding of god today. A "Christian Church" as we mean it today did not exist. You have to go through the changes in dogma brought about by the 2nd Great Awakening and 209 years of religious change which was a reaction to enlightenment rationalism to come to a Christian Church today.
The Constitution includes no reference to god except the legalistic formalism in the date. A Constitutional Amendment was proposed almost from day one praising the debt owe to God. Never been passed. A midwest society still promotes it. No documents appear that place a "Christian" God in the center of politics until the mid- 1820's long after the death of most of the founders.
Jon Albrecht Dixfield

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joeziehmer, of course it's

joeziehmer, of course it's your right to call me a Nazi, just as it's your right to make a fool of yourself in public at every chance you get. You exercise that right very well.

... rights such as those established for the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution ...

Holy crow. No wonder the country is crumbling in front of us. Rights come from God. Our founding documents mention them as rights that cannot be taken away by federal government, not created by federal government. There is no right to health care, to a job, to a house. Why are you obsessed with a right to health care for HIV/AIDS? Having you been sticking it somewhere you shouldn't?

Never mind. Heil Ziehmer! Unser liebe Fuehrer.

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jalbreicht1- Thank you for

jalbreicht1- Thank you for you clarity on these documents.

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Hey frostproof. maybe it was

Hey frostproof. maybe it was the declaration of independence. sorry i couldnt backcheck the exact source but for sure the line is there somewhere in the Constitution/ declaration of independence/ Bill pf rights. But did you read the rest of the post. is it that because my source was wrong that the point is mute. Or is there something worth reading or saying there. Ill be sure to include a bibliography with my next posts. Are you a lawyer? You sure its not law? It is the foundation of our country.

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concerned KD says "sorry i

concerned KD says "sorry i couldnt backcheck the exact source". Let me repeat that - in caps - "I COULDNT BACKCHECK THE EXACT SOURCE" How f'in brain dead do you have to be to be a liberal anyway? First the moron cites the wrong document because he is too ignorant to know better, and too lazy to look it up. Then he defines the rights misquoted as some divine inspiration that allows him and other parasites to reach into the pockets of others for this "right" to health care. When called on his idiocy, he throws out a half ass mea culpa and uses the rest of his idiotic post to justify his ignorance, misspelling all the way. And by the way, the word you are looking for is M_O_OT, not M_U_T_E! It's just too easy with you fools. I Hope You Fail.
"In the history of the nation, there has never been a political party so ridiculous as today's Democrats. It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc." Ann Coulter

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Publikwerks is almost right

Publikwerks is almost right about the IX Amendment. Madison's great fear was that by enumerating (listing) specific rights people would think there are no other rights. He was afraid that people would say, if its not listed in the Constitution, it is not a right. And they did. But the right to life does not come from the Declaration. It comes from the inherent powers of government. The whole point of collective governance is to protect life and to make it better. The people would never form a government for any other reason.
Jon Albrecht Dixfield

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The Declaration of

The Declaration of Independence was approved by the first Continential Congress. No Constitutional government existed at all. It can be best characterized as a "Dear John" letter to the world explaining why we as a people were leaving British control. The Articles of Confederation for Perpetual Union of the States, our first government, was adopted March 1, 1781 five years after the Declaration. The Declaration had no relationship to the Articles which as you see was a confederation between state governments not the people. The Constitution was adopted in 1787 and ratified in 1788. None of the procedures, powers, or principles of the Constitution have any relationship to the Declaration. The Constitution was a government formed by the people of the US (We the People). The Articles granted no implied powers to the Federal Government. The Consitution defined implied powers clearly giving the government wide ranging authority to fix the problems that beset the people. So while the Declaration is an important historic document, it is a deadend politically and it never had any legal worth.
Jon Albrecht Dixfield

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To you Constitutional

To you Constitutional experts: I believe the phrase LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS is from the Declaration of Independence which, a remarkable document, is not part of the Constitution and is not law.

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It was part of the law

It was part of the law during its day and it still considers to be so yet it seems easier for the American Nazi's to craft it into their own style and take away rights which are part of the American foundation. Can bet you work a pretty crooked field there Frosty what is it about answering treatment for child concerning cancer, HIV/AIDS, substance abuse, and research that for the people gets you so riled that there are people who need their rights to health care as well. Why do those questions make you suddenly ignore what is ever present judging that you like pulling rights such as those established for the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution then and there. But though manipulations Nazi's like you saw a way to end it Frosty I'm not scared to call you that right now. If its right to kill someone and deny them treatment then you grab that Lugar and you pull that trigger and you pray that theres an afterlife for whoever dies because it is a "noble" kill for you. So, go ahead deny everyone treatment judging your type of personality you seem to ignore issues of care for those with HIV/AIDS is it to taboo a subject for you to even issue a comment on?

Notice deep down inside that you had no real answers for anything which comes up nor the other lot that makes itself known through the so called "Conservative" movement. You deny that cocktail treatment for a teenager, that research into childhood cancers, and the substance abuse programs to help addicts. Go ahead because it makes you feel good to make a stand believe all that misinformation and because if it feels good deem them for killing. I think Hitler would like your mindset.

Joe Ziehm
Lewiston ME

There are two kinds of Republicans in this world moderate and conservative for so long I've picked the moderate that now it is time to consider the path less traveled.

Frostproof's picture
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Pretty sure it was

Pretty sure it was 'concerned KD'. Scroll down a ways.

Lil's picture
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"We the people of the United

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

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"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill

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Our constitution/Bill of

Our constitution/Bill of rights States we have the RIGHT to LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. The right to life tells me that we all have the right to recieve treatment no matter what the cost or regardless of weather we have insurance. This does not mean we should expect to not pay for it. 2 ways to reform health care and make it more affordable for americans thus increasing the number of covered americans.
1) Allow us to purchase policies from companies that are out of state. Change the rules they live by and make them compete nationally instead of only within each state. This makes it harder for them to keep raising the prices every year because now they have more competitors. If the competitor does not increase the rate and your company does then we can jump ship and go to a new company. Gives us better choices. Also legislate that as americans we do have the right to life and thus we can never be refused coverage by our ins company. In my opinion it would violate our civil rights.
2)Hold the doctors and hospitals responsible for the wasted money. If you or I have gone to a doctor and had a test or a procedure done and we get referred to another specialist, then that specialist does a procedure for a second time because he doesnt have needed information from the doctor then make them absorb the cost of the second test. If they know beforehand that if the procedure they are about to do has already been done and they might end up paying for the second one themselves then I think they will make better efforts to get the proper information prior to the scheduled vist. In all of my referrals I have recieved to a specialist the specialist has always had 72 hours to a week to prepare for my visit. In my oppinion this is plenty of time to make sure all the information is where it needs to be.If we start with little steps in the right direction we will see clearly where we need to be. Then we make the changes necessary. Not change the whole system and stumble our way through it just to hope it works.

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Let me ask you all a

Let me ask you all a question. Who decided that health care for a right? I am old enough to have gone to school when they actually taught in the schools and you learned all about the constitution etc. I have followed changes in governement and in all this time I do not remember where there was a law that said that we had a right to health care. Can someone site this law to me. I may be a human rights issue but that is something else again.

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Let me ask you all a

Let me ask you all a question. Who decided that health care for a right? I am old enough to have gone to school when they actually taught in the schools and you learned all about the constitution etc. I have followed changes in governement and in all this time I do not remember where there was a law that said that we had a right to health care. Can someone site this law to me. I may be a human rights issue but that is something else again.

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2003-03-04-malpractice-debate_x.htm

Interesting story in a non-right-wing paper. Note they were talking about this just before we left to blow up the Middle East.

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Truth is the ones railing

Truth is the ones railing for tort reform are the first ones in line to sue. Principles only go so far.
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"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill

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Principles again. Do you

Principles again. Do you have any evidence you can provide to support your truth? Or is that against your principles?

Lil's picture
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Here'es the Bork source:

Here'es the Bork source: "Judge Robert Bork, a prominent and unabashed judicial conservative whose nomination to the Supreme Court was rejected by the Senate, is seeking $1,000,000 in compensatory damages, plus punitive damages, in a personal injury lawsuit against the Yale Club of New York City." "Judge Bork has been a leading proponent of tort reform--laws restricting the right of injured persons from obtaining full and fair compensation for their injuries from juries." http://www.illinoiscarandtruckaccidentlawyerblog.com/2007/06/add_robert_...
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"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill

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Here are a few: George W

Here are a few: George W Bush, John Stossel, Robert Bork, Rick Santorum, Aetna, Anheuser Busch, Eli Lilly, Ford, Exxon, Enterprise, GEICO, Honeywell, etc... http://www.kraftlaw.com/Articles/Hypocrites.htm
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"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill

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OK. You said tort reform is

OK. You said tort reform is a red herring. Same nit-picking question to you: What's your evidence? I mean, aside from your own personal inspiration which everyone else is supposed to accept as the revealed truth.

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"Coverage is American right"

"Coverage is American right" ????? Zachary, show me where it states that medical coverage is an American right.

"A necessary component of reform is having a public health insurance option. Not offering a quality, affordable public option will leave thousands of Mainers and millions of Americans uninsured" Don't we already HAVE a public insurance option? Isn't is called Medicare?

"Having quality, affordable health coverage should be every American's right" Ahhh, it SHOULD be every Americans right. Don't we all have the choice for medical coverage now? If you work at a job that doesn't offer coverage, don't you have the choice to find one that does? Don't you have the choice to better your lot in life by obtaining an education, which should give you better job opertunities?

Zachary, as an intern, I can only guess that you are attending college, hence giving you the tools you will need to succeed later in life. Why would you want to become reliant upon the black hole which Washington and Augusta have become? They can not handle the roles they now have, do you really think they can handle OUR lives?

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Tort reform is a good idea,

Tort reform is a good idea, IF you can find an efficient way to get rid of bad doctors. Now they cannot get insurance, so they don't practice, but it usually takes several costly mistakes before that can happen.

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Every state has a government

Every state has a government group that oversees doctors - or they are supposed to - supported by taxes. The AMA has a similar private group in every state, supported by dues from doctors - that is, from patients. If these groups aren't doing their jobs, lets get rid of them. But the solution is not shoveling mountains of money to literal ambulance chasers. The current situation does get rid of bad doctors, but it converts good doctors to mediocre doctors.

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Ask your doctor what his

Ask your doctor what his biggest expense is, after employee costs. I'll bet his answer is malpractice insurance, even ahead of rent. Five years ago mine told me his premium was $40,000 per year. I'll take a wild guess that it's a lot more now. It is that high because of the American addiction to huge lawsuits whose sole purpose is to enrich lawyers. Tort reform would control this, reduce expenses and let doctors pay more attention to the practice of medicine than accounting.

Lil, Churchill also said: "If you are not a liberal at 20, you have no heart; if you are not a conservative at 40, you have no head."

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So the Insurance Industry is

So the Insurance Industry is screwing your Doctor, also.

Just more evidence that we don't need insurance, we need health care. And mediation/correction on medical screw-ups.
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When I was a young Sailor - I drank like a Sailor, fought like a Sailor, and screwed like a Sailor. Now that I am old and wise - I have a few scars, but many fond memories.

Lil's picture
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So, what you're promoting is

So, what you're promoting is the idea that if your doctor maims or kills you through ineptness, you should just give up any thoughts of recourse?
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"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill

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If someone maims or kills

If someone maims or kills you through gross negligence, they may be charged under criminal statutes.

Perhaps the patients and/or families aren't after Justice, just Buck$$

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When I was a young Sailor - I drank like a Sailor, fought like a Sailor, and screwed like a Sailor. Now that I am old and wise - I have a few scars, but many fond memories.

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No Lil; MadDad, Deimos, and

No Lil; MadDad, Deimos, and Gil completely got wiped out on the last insurance debate with the commissioned markets as it is and the corruption of the larger fraud at hand. Can I sink their battle ships again as they prey on the logical misconceptions that life is not valued by their stand points? Of course Deimos and MadDad ignore the rights of HIV/AIDS treatments for children and intervention programs designed for those in substance abuse. I seem to back off Stone and Frosty, so tell me Deimos, and MadDad; what's your games what type of businesses are you involved in?

Joe Ziehm
Lewiston ME

There are two kinds of Republicans in this world moderate and conservative for so long I've picked the moderate that now it is time to consider the path less traveled.

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OK we have MAddad and deimos

OK we have MAddad and deimos now where is Gil telling us all that because he has coverage no one else needs it.

Lil's picture
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Truth is malpractice

Truth is malpractice insurance claims and premiums amount to less than 2% of health care spending. Premiums are rising due to preventable errors - doctors making mistakes - not some increase in lawsuits. (http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/180/7/E4) Dad - try to get your chemo, insulin, dialysis, etc at the emergency room.______________________

"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill

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Everyone has a "right" to go

Everyone has a "right" to go to a hospital emergency room and be treated whether they have insurance or not. Everyone has a "right" to get a job and buy their own insurance. Maybe if more people worked instead of looking for a free ride through life the insurance costs would go down.

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insurance companies have to

insurance companies have to make money in order to pay claims, plus a lot of pension funds are invested (read: responsible people that have jobs) in the compaines so there is the obligation to investors and the 4 million people that work in the field. The most necessary part of reform is tort reform, estimates are that 25-30% of fees for doctors are to cover the high cost of malpractice insurance. why are you leftists so adamant about companies being evil if they should (gasp!) make a profit? how about if we all work together to keep the government in check? you have to realise that when it is for profit the incentive is to create new and better drugs and equipment to treat people. that costs money for research and development. the populist, histrionics of the letter is funny since we have to assume you are smarter than us in that you know how much to charge for services and how much profit a company should make. If you are that smart why aren't you king of the world? but I must say I really love the comparision to public schools since they do such a terrible job educating students today. you want to see quality education go to almost any private school. health care is not a right, but people have an obligation to behave responsible. get some exercise, don't stuff double cheeseburgers down your mouth daily, and don't abuse drugs and alcohol, and maybe you will live a long healthy life. fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life. Don't confuse access to health insurance with access to health care they are not the same thing. The real question about government care is not will the government pull the plug on grandma but will they even let her get plugged in in the first place?

"you aren't smart enough to tell me how to live"

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