Obama capitulated to Muslims

The recent TV broadcast where President Obama goes to the defense of building a mosque at ground zero, citing the Constitution, reminded me of a scene from "The Godfather" where a congressman or senator, I forget which, ticked off the Godfather, was abducted and then subjected to convincing atrocities.

Next scene, the contrite representative, at a hearing investigating Mafia influences, rises to defend his friends, vilifying the hearing.

In my opinion, the White House TV broadcast, attended by many Muslims and broadcast throughout the Muslim world, was just such an appeasement, a capitulation.

Teddy Roosevelt was right. When dealing with our enemies, "speak softly and carry a big stick."

It is time to use the stick.

Albert Grandmaison, Lewiston

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Ug...can't argue the points so you decide to insult me. I really appreciate it. I don't mind being the catalyst for you showing your true colors. But I'm not sure how anti-semetic rioting relates to building a mosque near ground zero.

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It's common decency....since when is is that a commie racist trait? Well, it's obvious it's not a lefty trait.


Well since my age is suspect and seeing how my intelligence clearly is not; I like the fact that you're going to at least shut up. As for you and Conserva did you forget about pogroms? If you want to call me stupid though maybe it is better that an old dog like you keep barking and baying at moon; while the younger dog does all the foot work and gathers intelligence.

Not Lemon Juice

This is not lemon juice just pretty typical conserva-commie racist tactics from a mother who should not have raised her children to listen to Prussian Blue. As for looking to cause trouble there were Muslims that day who had lost loved family members; so I can see why this is a sense of closure for them. I love how a conserva-commie loves bringing in the old Russian pogrom debating techniques. You are a real mench for a conserva-commie.


You state Muslims as if it encompasses every Muslim in the general area of religious philosophy this is more racist rhetoric from the Conservatives. When you deny the rights of worship you deny tolerance and cooperation; this is a closure for Muslims who had lost family members I can understand why they sought to build two blocks away. In being hateful you embrace the rhetoric of all Muslims being the same even if they did lose loved ones. Congratulations if this is American tolerance; move to China and join the Government sponsored Church.

RONALD RIML's picture

RWB - So you gave up your chance to purchase it???

You could have posted a 'Remembrance Memorial' honoring all that died at the 45-47 Park Place location, and charged admission for your 'Mourn-a-Torium"

What - Nobody was killed there?


RONALD RIML's picture

We see what's going on...... Your mind has been hijacked.

Your mind has been hijacked.

I was on the gut side of "Love It or Leave It" forty-five years ago, and this time around chose the cerebral position.

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The constitution outlines who won

a presidential election. Check it out. Bush won. It was in all the papers. Whining about it and stomping your feet won't change it. Ask Al Gore. He tried it.

RONALD RIML's picture

'Strip Joints' Republicans can relate to.....

So cut them a huss.......

Smiting? Ya we have a lot of those in our book too,

that doesn't mean all Christians are going to start doing it.
1 Samuel 23: Therefore David enquired of the LORD, saying, Shall I go and SMITE these Philistines? And the LORD said unto David, Go, and SMITE the Philistines, and save Keilah. Numbers 25:17 Vex the Midianites, and SMITE them: Jeremiah 21:6 And I will SMITE the inhabitants of this city, both man and beast: they shall die of a great pestilence.
Ah, but the most important one that republicans are ignoring in their race to out their "enemies" including anyone that may utter a liberal thought? Deuteronomy 19:11 But if any man hate his neighbor, and lie in wait for him, and rise up against him, and SMITE him mortally that he die, and fleeth into one of these cities: 12 Then the elders of his city shall send and fetch him thence, and deliver him into the hand of the avenger of blood, that he may die.
Anyone can cherry pick a religious book. Want scary? Done. Want joy? Done. Want to feel self righteous without feeling guilty about your own sin? Done. Being a Selective Christian won't get you into heaven and being a Muslim doesn't automatically send you to hell.

RONALD RIML's picture

Read the "Warm & Fuzzy" in the Bible, also...

Zechariah 14:1-2

Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city.

One Vengeful Lord - many Religions


I agree with you considering Christians love using the Old Testament as a way of keeping violence positive and charity negative let us consider this gem from the epistle of James.

2: 1-4
"My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?"

That's what I just said

That's what I just said except it's been dumbed down for easier interpretation for various audience members. Veritas I'm done have reviews to write for the day good luck.

The Picture

The USSR sign, Jewish Star of David common of Israeli signature of support, and the American colors. Tell me something since you are using the anti-semitic, Pro-USSR theme, and an oft misquoted phrase did you know that the Quar'an states that of atheists and heathens; yet does not say to attack Christians or Jews but rather says to live in peace with them? Do you lick David Duke's boots in you're sleep considering the picture that you use?

RONALD RIML's picture

We're brighter than you.....

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No, I stated that you did not support Israel are you really this dense at home or just on purpose? I phrased anti-semitic which you did not quite understand so that nullifies you're intelligence for this debate. Kind of like the pointy Haired Boss and being almost hot enough to boil water. In the past tense I stated that you were anti-semitic toward the Jewish state; of course Conservative logic versus Republican logic and we see how the moderates fair when intelligence becomes a failed word for RedWhiteBlue. I did not realize that the Sickle and star were part of the old USSR but I can realize now that you cannot separate anti-semitic from you're David Duke love fest. I associated that you were using the sickle and star with what a Conservative had stated. That Israel when electing certain leaders was embracing leftist agendas when wanting to investigate human rights abuses toward Muslim citizens.


I defended myself and have done so in the past unlike Conservatives the difference are that Republicans see through their own mistakes and apologize. As much as I liked Reagan however the new age Christian animosity and Religious Right has been the framework for several atrocious against none Christians. Even in that it can stem from and be directed toward Christians as well; as a Christian I questioned my faith due to the Religious Right in events such as this. There were whispers in High School and directed attacks by teammates on my own football team that I was indeed a closet Muslim and during Freshman year that several students were suspected of being closet Jews. No wonder why I studied Taoism and Talmud just to finally see the real "light" of a loving Savior in Jesus Christ. Which is apart from political motivations such as the one now facing New York. I agree with John Ashcroft whether or not we choose to take it; this is a symbol of closure for a majority of New York Muslims who had lost loved ones. Just as the icons of a Baptist Church, Jewish Synagogue, Mormon Temple, and Catholic Cathedral are points of closure for New York first responders. You were smug when had called me a liar do you want every detail explicitly labeled and sampled with the APA or MLA college formats? Just that my postings on here will not be rank and file lies and so that my sources are correct?


You know if you wanted to be really pent up about it and think in smugness then enjoy yourself. When you state anything invalid from here on out I'll take it under my own conclusions to point it out as such. If you wanted to get under my skin good job Conserva-commie.

Sabine Christakis's picture

You interpret the "picture"

You interpret the "picture" wrong. There is no Star of David. The star you are seeing is part of the symbol of the former Soviet Union ... The O stands for Obama and our contries colors. It symbolises the direction to communism Obama is going. the jews have nothing to do with it.

RONALD RIML's picture

Obama's Baptism

"Obama was baptised by Mullah Omar and Louis Farrakhan in the blood of puppies. White puppies. Who loved America."

I know it's true because I saw it on the Internet

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Campaign of hate

"The terrorists have done a fantastic job of making Americans associate Muslims with terrorists." No they did not. The right-wing is promoting two ideas - all muslims are terrorists, Obama is a muslim. Therefore Obama has capitualted and sold America out. Its the old "Jews stabbed us in the back" propaganda from Nazi Germany. Funny, because many leading muslims supported Nazi Germany.
Obama is not a muslim and never has been a muslim.
At its peak, al-Qeada had support of maybe 20,000 muslims out of 1.6 billion. Today, they may have support from a few hundred.
This campaign of hate lead by the right is the strongest support al-Qeada has in the world.


Do you have even one link ...

... to some non-left-wing pandering site with evidence that the right-wing is promoting your bilge? I love it how easily you and some others here slide back and show your nostalgia for the good-old-days of the 1930s.

Obama acknowledged that he became a Christian, without specifying what he had been, when he started listening to that foaming-at-the-mouth racist bigot J. Wright. What a great way to convert!

The right has joined with many others to say: Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Hatred is purposely warping that to suit your twisted ends, hiding behind a pretense of tolerance and diversity.


Frost what you are saying was debunked by Mike Huckabee live on Fox News and in several interviews when he praised Wright for enduring the struggles of the several rights movement and talking about it within his church. As Huckabee had stated we are not African-American and we do not know the tensions that existed. Which also debunks you're favored status, and attack because Huckabee is a moderate right leaning Republican on a platform news show. That takes away the cadence of attacking that you favor in wanting a non-left leaning site. [This comment has been edited by the administrator]


Ignoring, for the moment,

Ignoring, for the moment, your verbal sewage, Albrecht made the accusation: The right-wing is promoting two ideas - all muslims are terrorists, Obama is a muslim. Publish any link, then. Forget the request for one to a non-left-wing site. Most of us are more than able to judge sources when they are actually mentioned.

Morning Joe


Morning Joe is also a Republican and this carries forth the message that Pastors do get caught up in the moment and Huckabee defends both sides of the issue.

Two Blocks

It is still two blocks away from Ground Zero imagine how the Muslim families who lost members during 9/11 now feel in a bitter and cold unrealistic American society dominated by Conservatives lacking the true nature of being understanding to others. While, they process xenophobic relations to others this is bitterly ugly. The "victory Mosque" is a racist form of creating an idealistic enemy to indulge and whet you're own appetite. As a Mosque it would represent a better understanding and more equal opportunity for Muslims who had lost family members to express their grief from losing loved ones. Call that a "victory Mosque" considering there were large numbers of Muslims who had lost their lives as well. How comforting would it be for closure if you're son or daughter had died and as a professed Muslim you were not allowed to have closure and security at the place where they had lost their lives.

RONALD RIML's picture

Too much Faux News.....

Someone tell Albert we were attacked by Al Qaeda because of the security threat we've posed to the Middle East, and not by Islam for religious purposes.*

Some folks never get the word.

Words of Osama bin Ladin - http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/29/bin.laden.transcript/

RONALD RIML's picture

Really?? Japanese Kamikaze Pilots in the name of Allah??

vzep writes: 9-11 was a suicide mission, which is always in the name of Allah.

Your imagination is obviously not limited by your ignorance, vzep.

Suicide is an equal opportunity departure......

RONALD RIML's picture

"You thought it was implied?"

And then you tell me to be careful about whom I call ignorant....

Wow. Rocket scientist on a stick.

RONALD RIML's picture

Sorry - that's not what vzep wrote. Clear it up for yourself.

And 9/11 wasn't a 'Religious' attack.

Osama bin Ladin told us exactly why he did it - 'Security reasons'

Though anyone on a suicide mission probably will invoke their God simply to cover their bases....

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Thats what I was thinking

The terrorists have done a fantastic job of making Americans associate Muslims with terrorists. There are 1 billion Muslims in the world. Are we ready to declare war on them all?

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Actually, there are 1.6

Actually, there are 1.6 billion of them. And, what if only 1% are "radical islamists"? That's 16 million muslims who want to wipe us off the face of the earth. Comforting thought, eh?

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Albert, are all Muslims our enemies? If not, what's the stick for? I thought it was a few Al Qaeda extremists. And just how does denigrating all Muslims help win the hearts and minds of Afghanis?

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You watch to many movies.

Maybe Obama truly believes in upholding the Constitution, unlike the previous President.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

Yeah, as long as he gets to

Yeah, as long as he gets to rewrite it.


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