Somali clothing store offers different cultures, styles

Daryn Slover/Sun Journal

Farhiya Mahamud, a 2003 graduate of Lewiston High School, manages the family owned business, Mama Shukri Plaza, on Lisbon Street. The store has a hip-hop appearance, but has customers of all ages.

LEWISTON — At the clothing store at 229 Lisbon St., the hip-hop music coming from inside and the shimmering garments in the window make some curious.

Daryn Slover/Sun Journal

Items that feature the Rastafarian colors of red, gold and green are common throughout Mama Shukri Plaza. The flag of Ethiopia has the same colors.

Daryn Slover/Sun Journal

Teenagers and young adults run to "Mama Shukri Plaza" once a month to see what new style of sneakers have arrived, said store manager Farhiya Mahamud.

New face of Lisbon Street in Lewiston
Russ Dillingham/Sun Journal

As all but one social club have left downtown Lewiston, a new ethnic "flavor" has taken over the lower end.

“When they walk by (and) they hear the music or they like something in the window, some shy people peek in and ask, 'Is this a Somali store? What is this?'” manager Farhiya Mahamud said with a chuckle.

It is a Somali store, she tells them, but also more. Customers range from high school students to locals, Jamaicans, reggae fans, Franco-American seniors from Oak Park and Somalis.

Mama Shukri Plaza opened in October, but there's no sign up yet. She and her mother, the owner, are saving up for it.

The store has racks of traditional American clothes, basketball jerseys, jeans and striped and plain tops in all sizes.

“Over here we have African style. Here are all our scarves,” Mahamud said, showing off the bright colors as the hip-hop music blared. There were fancy Somali skirts with matching tops and scarves. The dressy outfits, which sell for $40, are suitable for weddings, Mahamud explained.

A few feet away are household goods, Muslim clocks, quilts, sheets and curtains with rich colors and patterns; no plaids or solids. “Some don't like the styles Walmart has. These are more like Middle Eastern.”

Other household goods include inexpensive items similar to those at dollar stores, and matching, fancy coffee and tea sets. In Somalia, tea time is a big deal, she said, “especially in the afternoon when it was too hot to go outside. A lot of people drink tea, go to sleep or hang out.” In Lewiston, tea time is enjoyed after work. “When people visit, this is what you would present at the table.”

There are sandals and shoes on clearance, purses and clutch wallets, dangling earrings and other jewelry, Jamaican-style Rastafarian hats and shirts.

Mahamud is particularly proud of the sneakers she finds online and displays. Several are high-tops with different patterns and designs. “The youth love our sneakers,” she said. “Every time we have a new sneaker coming, in they have to get it. They don't want to run into their friends and have the same shoes.”

Somali stores offer a range of goods, she said, because some customers don't have cars and can't easily get to stores near the mall.

Mahamud, 26, does not always wear a head covering. On this day she wore jeans, a shirt and dangling earrings. Outgoing, she seems to smile easily.

Some conservative Muslims come into her store and tell her she shouldn't be dressed like that, she said.

“'You shouldn't be playing this music' or 'You shouldn't be selling this. It's not good.'” Mahamud shrugs off such comments.

Born in Somalia, she came to the United States at 14, first to Atlanta, Ga. Her family moved to Lewiston when she was a high school senior. After graduating from Lewiston High School in 2003, she attended the University of Maine in Orono. After two years there, she moved to Florida and graduated from Florida Atlantic University in 2008 with a business degree. Last year she worked in Miami for an accounting firm.

Last winter her sister was running the clothing store and got accepted to medical school. Her mother asked Mahamud if she'd come home and manage the store. She loved Florida, “but I missed my family a lot,” she said. “I said, 'If I'm going to help you I want to get a little bit of my style.'”

The store is named after her mother, who everyone calls “Mama Shukri,” Mahamud said. “She works over there, at the Mogadishu Store.” When someone is new in town, “she welcomes them and introduces them to things. A lot of people say she's almost like family.”

Her parents opened the clothing store after the building was put on the market. Her mother wanted one store to focus on food, the other on goods.

“She saw this building for sale” and bought it because it was right across the street from the first store.

Lisbon Street is livelier than it used to be. “I like it,” Mahamud said.

She hopes to grow her business, attract more customers and buy advertising. And maybe a sign.

bwashuk@sunjournal.com

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Warren5874's picture

Somalis superior to your white children.

To my knowledge, Somalis are non-white. As such, they qualify for affirmative action. This gives them rights superior to our white children. This jumps them ahead of the line, ahead of white children no matter how poor the whites may be. Somalis will receive preferences for government jobs, education, pity and compassion, all programs designed for minorities such as business loans.

It matters not how long your ancestors have been in country, industrious and paying taxes. White children become second class in the eyes of government and affirmative action.

Did our leadership realize that they would be punishing our white children when introducing a non-white population in our community?

Warren5874's picture

Where is the money coming from?

We are told that Somalis are good for Lewiston, that they are opening shops and revitalizing parts of town.

Shops mean shopping. Shopping take smoney. How are the Somalis earning their income to do all this shopping? Locally, people earn money working at a paper mill. This give them money to shop. Where do Somalis work in order to earn their money

seekingthetruth's picture

Preaves? Are you going to stop xyz from calling me a liar or not

I have reported all of your offensive posts. I am not going to argue with you, and hopefully Preaves will take care of this.

I don't know how many reports it takes to get someone banned, but I am for sure going to help you get there.

cammydawg19's picture

Not long ago, it may have been you

I am a newer resident of the Lewiston-Auburn area and what I've been reading in these blogs is troubling.

The Somali community is is a no-win situation when it comes to the bloggers. If Somali's are not working, they are deemed as 'feeding off the system' and told to 'go back home.'

Now, there's a story in the paper about tax-paying U.S. citizens who were offered asylum from a war-ravaged nation by the our federal government, living the American dream. They are paying taxes and revitalizing an area that could never return to the Lewiston of the olden days.

Instead of praising the effort, the anti-Somali racist commentary continues. What's troubling about this, is Lewiston is a Franco-American city - and other than the Irish, what nationality was more oppressed?

How long did it take for French immigrants to learn the language? I know of many Lewiston-Auburn people who still speak only French. Should we rip them to shreds too? French culture, the negative and the positive, permeate the L/A area and Franco-Amricans are proud of their heritage, as they should be.

Why should we not treat the Somali culture the same way? The bottom line is that there are now more bsuinesses on Lisbon Strett fueling the economy. Should we really care what the nationality of the owner is and who buys their product? It's tax money and econoimic infusion.

The Somali culture is found money for L/A. Millions of dollars have flowed here. It's amazing to me that if these were white or Franco-American-run businesses, the bloggers would be praising this series.

Way back when your parents came here, they spoke French, they struggled to learn English and they were not immeditely accepted.

The anti-Somali bloggers should remember this, see the good that has come from this infusion of business and culture and find a way to embrace it. That's what happened with the French, Irish and English - and that's what has made our country great.

BenHarrison's picture

Great Now The "TRUE SOMALIAN

Great Now The "TRUE SOMALIAN BLOOD BLOODS" have a place to buy "THEIR COLORS" nice!! Well Sun Journal where is the "NEWS" on that Violent street gangs in Lewiston and Portland!! Well Pattie I am sure I missed them so if you could post the links to those articles that would be great!! YA Somalians thanks for "Saving Lewiston".

amo's picture

Do you have evidence backing

Do you have evidence backing up what you are accusing this young lady of doing? Are you a law enforcement officer? Or do you just want to spread rumors? You sound like an anti-Franco/anti-Irish KKK member from the 1920s.

Jo's picture

There's a difference...

And a huge one between immigrants and refugees. Legal immigrants to this country have many conditions, expectations to fulfill before even considered for admission. Somalia is in a constant state of civil war ( has been for decades) giving them "special" status. Probably always will be too, making repatriation/deportation nearly impossible. So even the most egregious of criminals can't be sent back. They are entitiled, and know it. Legal immigrants can be sent back to their country of origin even if they are deemed not productive enough. I don't dig that...
Traditionally immigrants have had to prove they will CONTRIBUTE to our country, not suck it dry. The process to legally immigrate to the US is not easy. Decades earlier it was even more arduous. In fact, it would behoove every American to educate themselves on Ellis Island. Fascinating, enlightening stuff. To even attempt to equate our historically hard working, sacrificial immigrants to somali refugees is a slap in the face to our ancestors and the back breaking endeavors that made this country GREAT. The differences in circumstance, sacrifice and expectations are completely different. I wish the SJ would do a prideful story about what real immigration truly involved back in the hay day of Ellis Island and what immigrants have to go through even today to settle here. Knock off the love fest with the Somalis, will ya? It's annoying as hell...

amo's picture

And about those 22K+ European

And about those 22K+ European refugees admitted to the US following WWII, were they also not "legal immigrants"?

amo's picture

This is ridiculous. Yes, our

This is ridiculous. Yes, our Ellis Island (mine included) immigrants were largely great... I'm sure a few criminals snuck in here or there, like with all mass movements of people... but you are comparing two historically different time periods and attempting to make the claim that only one of the them is legit. One period of history is not more legitimate than another! It does not hold more truth than another. Because the world is not as it was c 1880 - 1915, then contemporary immigrants and refugees are invalid? Weak argument. And why are you making the false claim that refugees are not "legal immigrants" (as you attempt to in your opening paragraph)?

Secondly, YOU may feel proud of the immigrants of the past, but they certainly encountered an American society that was very UNWELCOMING of their presence. They were accused of being/doing the same things that modern-day immigrants are accused of doing/being. Rumors and propaganda were spread about their languages, lifestyles, and religion. Editorials were written about them, and native-born Americans organized against them. However, the government wanted to increase population, so the doors were open.

I support immigrants and refugees whether they came in the past or the present, whether they are European or not. It would be hypocritical not to.

Jo's picture

Baloney

And that's all I have to say about that. If you don't know the difference between legal immigartion and refugee status, then it's futile trying to educate you.
Good for you "I support immigrants and refugees whether they came in the past or the present, whether they are European or not. It would be hypocritical not to."
I respectfully disagree....and absolutely expect/demand anyone coming to this magnificent country pull their own weight. If they won't? Stay home and make your own country a better place to live. Coward.

amo's picture

"Give us your tired, huddled

"Give us your tired, huddled masses". Meaningless words, eh? Only applicable to the Ellis Island generation, I suppose (doesn't matter that they were hated and ridiculed in their time, even though we think of them as heroic in hindsight). Too bad we couldn't just freeze time.

amo's picture

"Stay home and make your own

"Stay home and make your own country a better place to live. Coward."

I hope you are strong enough to hold yourself to that same standard should you ever find yourself in the midst of a genocide, dictatorship, or civil war. Hopefully you won't ever have to find out.

"If you don't know the difference between legal immigartion and refugee status, then it's futile trying to educate you."

You are intentionally attempting to infer that refugees do not have a legal status, or that they are by default, illegal. This is untrue. Designation as a refugee is a legal status and is NOT the same as being in a country illegally.

amo's picture

Kudos.

It's never easy being an immigrant. I know things must have been hard for my Italian great-grandparents, and the backlash against Catholic Irish and Franco immigrants in Maine is well documented in our state archives and museums, and well alive in the memories of our elderly community members. This is why it's disheartening that some of their descendants take it upon themselves to reject so easily the new immigrants, rehashing the same accusations and rumors used against their very own ancestors.

Congrats to all successful small business owners. To the Somali biz owners, many of us support your efforts. It's too bad some continue to say such nasty things towards you, especially since you are doing exactly what they accuse the immigrants of not doing- working and creating growth in the Maine local economy. But, as history proves, the new immigrant community will continue to make contributions and in a couple generations, our descendants will wonder what all the fear and fuss was all about.

amo's picture

Oh, and it shouldn't go

Oh, and it shouldn't go without mention the overwhelming humanitarian crisis - brutal civil war, dictatorship, and history of European colonialism - which was the impetus for east Africans to come here in the first place. Many dismiss this, saying that after a few years and trying to find a safe home in a new country, that the immigrants should essentially just get over it. I would contend that most Americans have no concept of the horrors these folks lived through. Read a book and you may get an inkling. That kind of trauma doesn't disappear quickly, it takes decades to overcome. Hopefully their children will have enough memories of positive experiences in the US that the trauma will begin to heal.

seekingthetruth's picture

Actually I have seen pictures and books

of my family after the Yankees came through and raped my gggrandmother, my aunts and cousins, stole all the livestock and burned the houses and crops. I have documentation of two of uncles bring captured and taken to a Yankee prison camp in Maryland. One died in the prison, the other made it home but died 2 months later. BTW, on my gggrandfather's farm they didn't liberate the blacks....they shot some and they hung some.

But my ancestors didn't seek refuge in Somalia or anywhere else. They rebuilt.

seekingthetruth's picture

Let my clarify the above post

After rereading it I wanted make sure it was clear.

When the Yankees attacked the farm, they are the ones that killed the blacks. I assume they did it to prevent the women left from having any help in rebuilding or replanting. But the old belief that the Yankees came to liberate the blacks is a lie, at least in some cases, because they killed the ones on my families farm. BTW, that farm is still in the family, and my Dad was born there on it. But now there's nothing there but old house and chimney foundations, weeds, and lots of graves. They never recovered financially after the war. My cousin that owns it rents it out to deer hunting clubs.

But they didn't move to Somalia

xyz's picture

You lie in every one of your posts...

so why don't you ST_U.
By the way let me cry for your poor poor gggfarter BOO HOO. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. You are a racist and you just won't admit it. You tell people your part Black but the racist white side is all you show.

preaves's picture
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Admin warning

You need to knock off the personal attacks, xyz.

xyz's picture

This was aimed a seekingtruth what a falsehood...

He or she would not know the truth if it slapped them upside the head.

seekingthetruth's picture

Preaves, help me out here

I have reported all of your offensive posts. I am not going to argue with you, and hopefully Preaves will take care of this.

I don't know how many reports it takes to get someone banned, but I am for sure going to help you get there.

amo's picture

Um, I fail to see how your

Um, I fail to see how your family anecdote from the Civil War era has relevance to this discussion. So, your ancestors didn't move to Somalia? Well yeah, in historical context that wouldn't have made any since, especially since "Somalia" didn't exist during the the time of the American Civil War, and travel to and from the African continent was not exactly a regular thing back then. But, westwards expansion after the Civil War DID greatly increase, to a part of the North American continent (not all of it US states at that point) largely unknown to thousands of Easterners at that point. I suppose a comparison could be made placing Civil War survivors as refugees seeking peace and opportunity elsewhere. And many African-Americans escaped slavery and the war to Canada (you do accept the fact that African Americans are Americans, right?). But you are really setting up a false test here.

One civil war doesn't not necessarily correlate neatly to another. Should the reactions of all the world's civil war survivors, past and present, be exactly the same as the (varied) responses by Americans after our Civil War? I think not. Or are you simply making a veiled attempt at stating your belief that Americans are inherently superior to everyone else on the planet?

seekingthetruth's picture

Lots of posts on here keep using Somali civil war as an excuse

for the migration to the US. I am simply pointing out that our own Civil War caused great harm and devastation but we did not flee to another country.

As far as your comment "you do accept the fact that African Americans are Americans, right?). "?

I am white in skin color, but I am a direct descendant of a slave. My Dad was born on the family land and his birth certificate lists him as a "mulatto". You could definitely tell my Dad and his parents/grandparents were of black ancestry. I was born up here so my birth certificate says "Caucasian". But I was raised back down south, and my upbringing was heavily influenced by the prejudice against my family. For instance, I was the first of the mulatto side of the family to go to college. Before my generation college was just unheard of. I do have some cousins that are actually black. They have white in them, but they look completely black.

No, I am not a bigot over skin color, but I am adamant about personal responsibility, and that's what I don't see much of in the Somalian community. I see a negative effect on our community, and not much positive. I see them taking from the community with very little contribution. I know, some of you think that exposing us to their culture is a contribution, but cultural education doesn't put bread on the table. As far as the economy goes, culture is useless.

So don't preach to me about ancestry, skin color, race, or intolerance. I have dealt with them all my life.

amo's picture

sidenote.

Cultural isn't useless in the economy. It's called the creative economy, and is a growing sector of Maine's economy. Look it up. Arts = jobs.

www.maine.gov/spo/.../CE%20white%20paper%2006-14-07.pdf
http://www.juiceconference.org/

seekingthetruth's picture

Give me an example of cultural arts jobs

What jobs have been created here in lewiston by Cultural Arts?

For every Somalian you can find in Lewiston that have a job, I bet I can find you ten that don't.

amo's picture

Oh gosh where to start.

Oh gosh where to start. People employed by Museum l/a, the franco American collection, bates college museums and art departments, people who are freelance designers or are employed by companies in web design, photographers, musicians that are hired for events, etc. Any restaurant based on an ethnic food group. Dance teachers. Ethnographers that are hired to document cultural changes in Lewiston, I know at least one study has been done. Maybe these jobs don't mean much to you, but they do to the people employed by them and to the state!

amo's picture

The Somali Civil War is a

The Somali Civil War is a current situation, hence why there is outmigration happening from that country in the present day. As I said above, there actually was outmigration from the states involved in the US Civil War to territories located in the western part of the continent and to Canada -- war refugees who were unable or unwilling to stay in the East in the postbellum period. Your family may have stayed, others didn't. One isn't weaker or worse than the other.

Kudos to you for rising above a difficult situation. Kudos to the African immigrants making a go of it here. This particular news piece has two examples of Somalis taking responsibility in their adopted community, and examples of them expressing a desire to include non-Somali customers in their shops. However, I see very little positive feedback given to these two individuals in the responses here, responses that are calling for the very thing that these folks are doing! They just continued to be lumped in with negative perceptions and attitudes, blanket statements. We should be throwing our support behind this rather than continue to trash these folks as if they were a monolith.

seekingthetruth's picture

Actually I did go shopping on Lisbon st

last fall. I didn't find much that I use.

And the Somalians treated me really rude. It was obvious that they didnt like me or want me being in their stores.

How many of the posters on this thread have actually went to Lisbon St to shop? Well, until you do I'd keep my opinion to myself because it just might change after an hour of strolling the Somalian shops.

amo's picture

I have. Would return. And I

I have. Would return. And I have positive relationships with people who are African immigrants. So do others that I know. I hope this isn't too shocking. Did you go to the shops of either person featured here?

amo's picture

Oh boo hoo. You posted an

Oh boo hoo. You posted an irrelevant, derisive anecdote about two individuals you say you encountered, then made insinuations about the bright young lady profiled in this story based on your anecdote. You're hardly a victim of eeeevil liberal censorship. Come back with something insightful to say rather than peddling rumors and personal attacks about the lady in the article.

BearBug's picture
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This young Lady

This young lady will do well, and I wish her well. She is far from the "norm" of the Somali women however. She has gone on to become well educated, she is not afraid to dress out of the Simali ways. This young lady has a smile that is a ray of sunshine, an it can be said she is truly Americanized. from what all of the stores offer, hers will do the best, because what she carries in it is very diversified. She not only has the things a Somali would want to buy, but she has many things for the American also. By playing the music that she plays, she knows how to draw in the attention of all who walk past. She not only has regards for the Somali's but she also has respect for the Americans too. She has it all, and as far as I can see, her store will do the best. Her merchandise 8is a collection of things for everyone, not just for one certain culture.

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She's not far from the norm at all

She may not be the image you think of when you think of Somali women, BearBug, but that's because your image comes from her parents' generation. Like any immigrant culture, as more and more generations grow up as a part of their new nation, they start to assimilate into that culture. We also see a tentativeness to assimilate from the older generation, just like you see in any other culture. People here complain about the lack of assimilation, but the Somalis are following the same path as any other immigrant population. I graduated high school a couple years after this girl did, and I graduated with several Somali girls who had assimilated just like this one. The next generation will have even more, and so on.

BearBug's picture
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my point....

My point was, that she was not afraid to assimilate from her older generations. Many still don't, and I give her kudos on being her own person.

seekingthetruth's picture

I hope she has learned to bathe

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This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy.

seekingthetruth's picture

Preaves, you are partial to Liberals and Somalians

My post you deleted was a true experience I had at Hannaford's with 2 Somalian women, and you found it "violated our commenting policy".

I think it only violated Preaves' personal beliefs and biases.

You let the liberals insult the conservative people on here continually, and you even permit the liberals to call names like "right-wing wacko", and "homophone". But if a conservative even looks sideways you delete his comments.

It's the same with the Somalians. You may not agree with my opinion, but I think you should give me the right to express it. You are the the ultimate censor, and I believe you are violating my constitutional right to express my opinion (as long as it is not vulgar or threatening to anyone)

Again, you may not like my opinion, but if you don't like it then you shouldn't have this forum open to the public and asking for opinions.

seekingthetruth's picture

Preaves? Please respect all opinions, not just ones like yours

This is from your commenting policy

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My post that you deleted did not violate any of these rules. You just didn't agree with what I said, but how could you disagree? You weren't there.

You only allow comments and commentators that reflect your view, and you deny any opposing view any chance you get.

If you are to ask for opinions then you should allow ALL opinions, not just the ones that project your view.

BTW, you should have known that this series about the Somalians would incite arguments and fierce debate.

hurumble's picture
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That scent

That scent is a cultural aroma/perfume they put on themselves. I forget what it's called. Surely that's one cultural difference you can respect?

seekingthetruth's picture

No, the scent I smelled

was a combination of foot smell, human sweat and animal sweat. It was no perfume.

hurumble's picture
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Well..

If that's the case, it sounds no different than a large percentage of white males in this city. Get over it. You aren't helping your case.

lawntobemowed's picture

Nice warm smile

and a very pretty girl. She will do fine. Good luck and best wishes with your family's business!

BearBug's picture
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she will do well

she will do well, because as she said, she told her mother, in order to come from florida and run the store, she had to be allowed to bring her own style to the store also. By doing that, SHE is what will make it a success ! Her merchandise is for EVRYONE, not just the Somali Community.

Auburnkid's picture

L/A NOT HERE NOT NOW

I hate people who act like somalis are great fit for the L/A area. There like a cancer here sucking all the resources they can and people give it to them with open arms.While born and raised americans have to wait in the back of the line and pray there will be scraps left over.L/A NOT HERE NOT NOW.

Sun Journal, what the F@*&!!, is up with all the Somali articles.Every article does not reflect the real story.You surger up every damn thing the somalis are doing.Get real you live in a somali bubble.
THE SUN JOURNAL SHOULD BE MOVED TO LISBON STREET AND RENAMED SOMALI SON

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If you think "There like a

If you think "There like a cancer here sucking all the resources they can," what do you think of this: In March 2006 Forbes reported 793 billionaires in the US with combined net worth of $2.6 trillion. In March 2007 Forbes reported 946 billionaires in the US with combined net worth of $3.5 trillion. That is a 1-year increase of 19% in the number of billionaires and an increase of 35% in their net worth during a time of increasing poverty. This trend is not decelerating. Severe poverty is at its highest point in three decades. You can Google all this stuff.
Who is it that is sucking up all the resources?
About nine hundred billion dollars ($.9 trillion) more was in the hands of those whose labors made them billionaires. Or maybe it wasn't their labors that made them billionaires. Maybe it was their financial advisors and managers that made them billionaires. How many working stiffs would you have to gather up to to have a group with the same assets those 946 billionaires had?
On a more down to earth note, the ratio of CEO pay to factory worker pay rose from 42:1 in 1960 to as high as 531:1 in 2000, at the height of the stock market bubble, when CEOs were cashing in big stock options. They didn't become billionaires, but they weren't doing badly. The ratio was at 411:1 in 2005 and 344:1 in 2007, according to research by United for a Fair Economy. By way of comparison, the same ratio is about 25:1 in Europe.
In the US it isn't the poor who are sucking up all the resources. And if you will do the arithmetic, I think you'll find that in Lewiston it isn't the Somalis who are sucking up the resources.

jayla's picture

I love all the different

I love all the different styles they show the pictures. Don't even sweat these people Ms. Mahamud. With a smile like that, how could anybody not feel welcomed?! Ignorance is bliss. Sit behind your computer screens and complain, rather than getting out and about and meeting some new people! Who needs your negativity anyway?

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you can say ignorance is bliss all you want to...

Ms. Muhamud is an exception. She went on to get educated, she has no problem with dressing out of the "norm" of the Somali women. Ms. Muhamud still had her beliefs that she was brought up in, listen to music that is not in the "norm" for the SOmali's, but she can be concidered "Americanized". There is no problem with her. Her radiant smile is very welcoming. This is not a matter if ignorance, it is just a matter of seeing what is happening to Lewiston! How long have you lived in Lewiston jayla? Are you even old enough to remember the way things always were and used to be? People are not merely complaining, they are voicing their opinions over a city they know and love !

jayla's picture

Yes nosey, I've lived in

Yes nosey, I've lived in Lewiston for most of my life. Maybe you should take a walk outside your apartment and into one of the local colleges to see the many Somali women and men getting a college education. Perhaps you should get one yourself.

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Live in Lewiston All my life until the past couple of years...

so since yu have live in Lewiston "part" of your life, there are obviously things you are unknowledged on. Call someone nosey all you want, it wasn't nosey, it was simply asking a question. I have walked out the door to my House...I am quite aware of life around me, I am quite educated, are you?

007's picture

Oh great!

Oh great.....this is all we need. This article is only going to inflate the the already over inflated egos of the Somalians. The so called "elders" of the the so called "Somali community" will start demanding one thing after another. Sooner or later they'll want to seceed from Lewiston ,start their own charter..... then we "french frogs" who built L/A with blood,sweat and many tears will be the minority. I have had business dealings .......rather, tried to deal with several of the Somalis and was treated rudely,offered UNrealisict prices for my products, made to feel I was ripping them off and that if you did do business with them if they were not happy that some form of legal action was going to take place. Happy to see they have their own stores!! One question that is realy bothering me though is .........WHERE DO THEY GET THE MONEY TO GO SHOPPING WITH???? I have't seen but a hanfull of Somalis working.

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WHERE DO THEY GET THE MONEY TO GO SHOPPING WITH????

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BearBug's picture
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Well of course...

Well of course the comment was removed. Because it wasn't agreed with? Too bad the truth is the truth, and sometimes the truth stings.

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Jo's picture

Good Grief

SJ, couldn't you have combined all these articles about Somali stores? I fully expect individual articles about American owned businesses next week, right?
BTW, send in an anonymous caucasian mystery shopper into those "stores", and see the reception they get.

BearBug's picture
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you are so right....

All of these Somali stories could have been all summed up in one story. So let's see, we get ONE story about the last standing Club on Lisbon Street, and how many about the Somali Community? SJ...come on....who do you think reads your papers anyway? The majority of the older Somali's can't even Speak english, much less read it ! Are you going to begin circulation a "Somali Community" news paper next?

preaves's picture
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There were two stories about

There were two stories about social clubs. What part of the story do you think we left out? If there are still questions, we can always write more stories.

Do you live in this community? Are you telling me that, as a member of this community, these stories don't matter to you at all? What would make them matter more to you?

BearBug's picture
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Was born and raised in Lewiston

I was born and raised in Lewiston. Lived there for 49 years, and even though I have been away for a few years, I still come back "home" to visit. My point was that the SJ just keeps going on and on with these Somali stories. Ya'll knew from the beginning that they would cause contraversy. You say there were 2 stories on the social clubs? I saw one...two links yes, but they both took you to the same story. Ya'll also make it sound as though Lisbon Street was only known for all of the bars and bar brawls, Lisbon Street offered alot more then that. There may have been an over abundance of bars and clubs, but at least they were all contained in one general area, and it wasn't that hard to keep an eye on things. It was a person's choice if they wanted to be in that general area or not. Even as a child, I walked through that area, and I never got hurt. They make it sound like the slums, and the worst of the worst. Move on up the street a ways, and it was entirely different. We had stores to shop in, we had restaurants,and diners, other small businesses, and at one time there was even a place for the teens to hang out at, to play music, play pool, ping pong, and just hang out together with their friends, to keep them off the streets. If we are going to get into the history if Lewiston, or more specifically Lisbon Street, let's do it all. Not everything was bad about it.

Brain's picture

How about covering the raids on Somalie businesses?

What ever happened?

The FBI and the Dept. of Justice wasn't making a social call on the Somali businesses this past year in Lewiston.

All quiet from the the S&J on this subject

amo's picture

well, shoot.

You mean this one?: http://www.sunjournal.com/node/804435

Yeah, the SJ covered that, when it happened, back in February. I've looked it up on Google and it doesn't look like any new news has been reported (by any news outlet) about that incident since the time it occurred.

By your 1:1 logic, do you require that all positive reports of successful, law abiding American-native owned businesses be directly followed by a story about one that was fraudulent, too?

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Did you read this one:

Did you read this one:

Somali stores bring people back to Lisbon Street

or this one?

On Lisbon Street, social clubs and taverns' heyday long gone

or this one?

Lewiston Social is lower Lisbon Street's last club standing

They explore the other sides of the issue. You can see them all at the project page, http://www.sunjournal.com/lisbonstreet.

If you go to the project page, you can also scroll down to the bottom to see a diagram of when the storefronts have been occupied over the years. In 1949, there were 97 occupied storefronts. In 2009, there were 24. In the past year, there were 12 stores which opened on that area of Lisbon Street, the only point in time in the past 5 decades that the number of stores on the street has increased.

You can see a chart of the names of all the stores in the past 50 years here.

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That's all fine and well...but..........

I guess the point is, these people are given more then enough hand outs, while the American born and raised wait int he back of the line and hope there will still be something left at their turn. Your story talks about the bars, clubs and "bar brawls", but are you even old enough to remember we had stores too? There was Wards, Kresgee's, Woolworths just to name a few, we had diners, we had much more then just the bars! Now had any of these businesses been given the opportunities that the Somali's have now, there would not have been all of the empty store fronts. Are you aware of the fact that a special loan was opened, for the small businessman. So he could open his own small business, or to be able to make much needed repairs to his exsisting one? AN AMERICAN VET. went to apply for this loan on day 1. Now here is a man who put his life on the line for his country, and when it came to his turn, he was turned away, because all of the funds were gone! Who got all of the funds? Well look at Lisbon Street now, and that will give you a clue !I am not a biggot, and I am in no means prejudice, but you know, enough is enough ! Even with their stores, they still get food stamps, they still get everything they want handed to them. When an American Veteran is put in the back seat,a man who risked his life for his Country and can not get a small business loan to open his own little store, because all of the money went to the Somali's, it has become a very sad day.
So before it is written that all Lisbon Street was, were bars and bar brawls, check the facts more carefully. Lisbon Street may have had an over abundance of bars and clubs, but it still offered so much more then just that too. Go back and ask anyone who is over the age of 50 and they can tell you.

tron's picture

Pattie you

should read your email. Two of these stories link to the same article.

preaves's picture
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Sorry, here's the one that's

Sorry, here's the one that's missing:

On Lisbon Street, social clubs and taverns' heyday long gone.

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This WHOLE section

I Can't believe the Sun URINAL would print this RUBBISH !!! This is NO LONGER Lisbon Street Lewiston Maine... it's Lisbon Street Mogadishu Somalia.... This paper has NO BACKBONE but to give in to these people.

georgie anna's picture

yea

born and raise and shopped downtown lewiston for shoes, clothes, records and household goods...Should I adopt a new culture. I sooooooo miss our old Lewiston. None of us natives have a fighting chance...What is wrong with America anymore. Land of the free -- cool. Who are the free. And, Does home of the brave mean those of us born in this land are sacrificial beings to bring other into freedom and taking over what was once our means of survival. Not prejudiced, just confused by all this!

melora's picture

Sad to see it turning into Islamic world

The article stresses the "ethnic flavor" but I can't help but bemoan the fact that the area is turning into a region of isolated Islamic businesses. This isn't just a cultural sharing because they sell products that only appeal to their religion (such as meat that is only prepared a certain way according to Islam) and even the owner of the clothing shop mentions Muslim customers chiding her for wearing more American attire or playing modern music. It is just sad to me that those who come to Maine wish to change it into their own country rather than respect the traditions we have here.

amo's picture

Islamic store?

Melora, the emphasis of this article is that she is selling a lot of Western goods. She's playing American-style music in the store. Some (presumably older) members of the community chiding her about that? Unsurprising... it's well documented across cultures that older/first generation immigrants often bemoan the young folks straying outside the home-culture lines a bit (it's safe to say the same applied to traditional Italian, Irish, or Franco immigrants when seeing their young folk adopt American ways more fluidly). Did you notice how she "laughed it off"?

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you're right

you are so right melora, now if we were to move to their country, or any other country, we would be expected to learn their ways, cultures and beliefs. We would eat as they eat. We would be expected to dress as they dress. It's one thing for the older woman to want to still dress in a way they are accustomed to, but I see the little children(girls) still dressed as their mothers are. These children should be given a choice. Let these children also learn the American ways, I mean after all it is America they choose to stay living in. If all of their Islamic,Sumali,Muslim ways are so wonderful, why did they leave Somalia in the first place? Granted there they were living in poverty, yet here, they get all of the free handouts, when it's first come first served, you Know who will be the first in line! They may be living by their own ways, but by doing so, so emphaticly, they are also disrespecting America, why disrespect a country that just made it possible for them to live free, and practically go from "rags to riches"

Pericles's picture

Ignorance

Umm, the reason they left may have had something to do with the failed state and twenty year long civil war. Also every complaint you voice has been voiced about every immigrant group in American history from the first German and Irish arrivals during the colonial period right up through the French Canadians

Brain's picture

It's Over

With this issue the Lewiston Sun & Journal has put the nail in the coffin for Economic Development and a future for the City. The City is officially now living in the third world. City officials, Catholic Charities, St. Mary's Hospital, Section 9 Slumlords, Newsweek Magazine, and Bates College have created this environment. The African clans will strip the City like locusts (take a look at Africa). Lewiston is on track to become an example of "social engineering" run a muck.

The L/A Social Clubs are portrayed as a stigma. We forget the "Snow Shoe Clubs" and winter parades that brought great income and culture to the City.

It is time for another newspaper or a boycott of the existing Sun and Journal.
The S&J is greatly biased and damaging the City and the taxpayers, residents, and subscribers.

I will no longer participate in any S&J activities. This Sunday Section and the latest rewrite of the "Great Shoe Giveaway" was enough.
I can't stomach such journalism. I weep for my City and Maine Culture that was..... it's been hijacked by pirates.

Good Bye,

-- Brain

georgie anna's picture

HOLY MOLY

Pardon the expression but hopefully, here in America we still have Freedom of Speech. This is so getting out of hand--hard and fast. What is going to happen in the next few years or so with all of this. Are these invited to our free America going to rule or something. I truly am afraid. I hear other's concerns over it all as well. I am not alone in my worries and concerns. Our very government which we the people supposedly have say, is not truly taking care of their "fellow" americans. Is there something going on that we don't know about? Just my opinion but I truly think, the "goverment", the powers that be, are not being forth coming with what is really going on. Again, just my opinion....By the way, should I just go ahead and open a Somalian clothing or food store downtown because I need to survive too! As it stands, I am barely enjoying the fruits of my own labor trying to get a business going! Personally, I am very afraid--I know I am not alone!

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Very true......

Where is the Lewiston we grew up in? Where is the Lewiston we all loved ? But it seems as though Government and Somalia are going hand in hand. I mean after all, we now apparently have a Muslam President. Will religion be the next thing they try to change on us, and force us to accept as our own? I don't think so !! Not for me anyway !

xyz's picture

You mean the one where you walked down Lisbon street and...

all you heard was French, because the second and third generation Canucks still could not talk english. LOL..............

BearBug's picture
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for your information the

for your information the "canucks" could speak English, and as with all the other cultures , they spoke in french to each other. If someone asked them a question in English, they answered in English. It was and is called good manners. I am a "canuck" and proud of it .

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