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A missing story

Sun Journal Staff
Karen Lane,
Letters |
Thursday, September 2, 2010

I don't usually get my news from the "Daily Show," but in this case it seems to me that it picked up something that the newspapers have missed.

Fox News, in its coverage of the Manhattan mosque, implied that the man promoting the mosque is linked to terrorism by a Saudi man who has been supporting him. Fox News neglected to mention that the same Saudi — Prince Alwaleed bin Talal — is part owner of Fox News' parent company.

Shouldn't somebody tell the viewers of Fox (who are unlikely to watch the "Daily Show") that they are being misled?

And if that isn't the role of the newspapers, whose could it be?

Karen Lane, Lewiston

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franklincop's picture

Who Cares

By franklincop, unverified — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 11:23

My God! Who cares about this BS. Arguing about a muslim community center in New York City? Really? How about arguing about our burning economy, or, oh I don't know, something a little more pressing and important to our country. People need to grow up and stop fighting over all of this measly garbage. I tell you what, when we fix everything els thats wrong with this country then we can re-visit this issue and see if it's as important as we all once thought.

brian_l's picture

Well news programs never seem

By brian_l, unverified — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 04:35

Well news programs never seem to get good ratings over fictional programing.

xyz's picture

So many brain dead people actually believe...

By xyz, unverified — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 18:50

FoxSnooze, that should be the story. Makes one scared of this countries future when an Australian can come and make zombies out of Fox viewers by feeding them what they want to hear. Here is a suggestion http://www.newshounds.us/ they watch fox so you don't have to. LOL!

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We sure are lucky to have Jon

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 17:00

We sure are lucky to have Jon Stewart and Whoopi Goldberg to show us the way, aren't we xyz?

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Pretty Dern #1 Quite Lucky!!!

By Ronald Riml, verified user — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 18:11

As opposed to Steve Doocy and Gretchen Carlson.

Fox's non-too thinly disguised Poster-Children for post-Götterdämmerung Nordic-Aryan genetic experimentation.... (gone awry)

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one example

By Ray St. Onge, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 19:10

xyz, can you give me one specific example of what Fox has made up the news. If they are always so wrong, this should be easy.

By the way, where do you get your national news?

Scotty_O's picture

And "The View" dosen't count!

By Scotty_O, unverified — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 19:28

And "The View" dosen't count!

brian_l's picture

OMG!

By brian_l, unverified — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 13:26

Oh my God! The terrorist plot goes further then I thought.
Nice try Dave but what Jon Stewart and the Daily Show was pointing out is that Fox News is hypocritical for saying that the mosque is funded by a person who is supposedly also funding terrorist hence trying to make it sound like the mosque is somehow linked to terrorist somehow from guilt by association. Yet Fox News doesn't say who he is or that he is also linked to the very businesses you mentioned because it would prove that there would be no reason to fear the New York City Mosque.
So the Daily show was saying is if Fox News says that the Mosque is linked to terrorist because this Prince therefore the mosque is bad then in Fox News logic (I know the oxymorons isn't it) If this Prince is part owner on Fox News then Fox News is helping terrorist.

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OMG is right.

By Mike LeBlanc, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 14:00

My computer crashed trying to parse your run-on sentences. Is this what non-FOX "news" means by cyber terrorism?

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missing story

By Ed Enos, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 11:57

This is such a non story and has been for the months it has running. Yawning sooooo wide a cricket just fell in...

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But wait --

By Karen Lane, unverified — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 08:34

Fox started this by implying that the imam who is promoting the community center in Manhattan is wrong for taking his money! That was my point -- and you seem to agree with me-- that taking his money was okay. So now we AGREE that Fox was being misleading in suggesting that the Prince is a link to terrorism?

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But wait; there's

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 16:55

But wait; there's more......Where's Billy Mays when you need him.?

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No I was not agreeing with

By David A. Gagnon, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 09:43

No I was not agreeing with you. What you were implying through John Stewart's report from the Daily Show that Fox should be condemned for reporting what it should have reported. I am certainly not implying that the transaction between the imham and the Price was a good thing and neither was Fox. Fox was doing its job of reporting the affiliation. Stewart's only purpose in his report was to try and damage Fox by reporting the Prince's 7% ownership in Fox(ie: they are affiliated to a terrorist supporter). Another attempt at dragging Fox by hashing over old news. Lets face it folks. Fox is kicking ass out there and your beloved MSM isn't liking it. Their viewership is way down in the tank and their only means of fighting back is to dig up old worn out news. The Prince will never sell off his 7% in Fox because he is making money off of Fox's success.

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"Stewart's only purpose in

By Brian_L, unverified — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 13:34

"Stewart's only purpose in his report was to try and damage Fox" Fox News only purpose was to make people fear the Mosque by making look as though it somehow is tied to terrorist but that doesn't work if Fox News would mention who he is and that he is also tied to Fox News so Fox News omitted it on purpose.

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Brian-L its old news about

By David A. Gagnon, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 18:01

Brian-L its old news about the Princes ties to Fox. He bought shares in Fox back in 1997. Fox didn't to report on something people already knew if they were paying attention back in 200i after 911. It all came out when Giuliani stuffed the 10 million dollars back into the Princes hand. Its old news.

Brian_L's picture

So Fox News masterminded

By Brian_L, unverified — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 04:49

So Fox News masterminded 9/11. This is like something out of the Matrix.

Pirate's picture
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I thought Bush did that? Ask

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 16:58

I thought Bush did that? Ask Charlie Sheen.

Brian_L's picture

There by your logic 9/11 is

By Brian_L, unverified — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 04:40

There by your logic 9/11 is old news and the mosque should be allowed to be built. I guess we are all in agreement then.

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The mosque SHOULD be allowed

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 16:58

The mosque SHOULD be allowed to be built; but it SHOULDN'T be built on the designated site. Get it?

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Stewart's nothing but a Fox

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 16:10

Stewart's nothing but a Fox wannabe. He'd jump ship if they made him an offer, faster than you could say Borat.

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"small 7%"?

By Mark Wrenn, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 07:19

He owns the second largest voting block of Newscorp stock, but that's peanuts? How many billions is 7%? AND - he gives quite a bit of money to Feisal Abdul Rauf, the scary Imam behind the Cordoba House - one of his biggest financial supporters. I guess the only difference is one is a terrorist organization, and the other wants to build a Muslim community center on private property.

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Spin it how you will, Lilly,

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 16:06

Spin it how you will, Lilly, but 7% is 7%. There's still 93% of it that belongs to "others".

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And yet Pirate....

By Scotty_O, unverified — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 19:02

Karen's letter may perhaps insinuate that Fox is not a shill for its investors. In perspective, If Fox is telling people to eat 3 Big Macs a day because it will make you thin, and Karen does an Exposé and finds out that McDonald's is an investor in the network, I guess her LTTE would make more sense.

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Excellent points,

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 16:54

Excellent points, Scotty....Beam me up.

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Typical Lil response, lets

By David A. Gagnon, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 07:33

Typical Lil response, lets ignore the fact that Prince owns huge interests in AOL, Motorola, Apple, City Bank and likes. But lets nail Fox for the meager 7% that the Prince owns and that people already know about. Lil you go ahead and keep worshiping the likes of John Stewart and Keith Obermeyer. Their really going to give you the truth.

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controversies

By Mark Wrenn, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 07:50

When was the last time "AOL, Motorola, Apple, City Bank and likes" started up their own propaganda network and ginned up fake controversies with their spokesmodels to stir up the misinformed ignorant masses who willing believe?

Scotty_O's picture

Is AOL still around?

By Scotty_O, unverified — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 18:46

Don't forget it used to be "AOL Time Warner" until the end of last year...ah yes, Time Magazine, no propaganda there! and Turner Broadcasting , a conservative safe haven! Ooooooo, and that CNN...yup Anderson Cooper, a champion for the conservative cause.

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How's that "propaganda

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 16:08

How's that "propaganda network" doing in the ratings, lately?

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Like Marshall Field used to say......

By Ronald Riml, verified user — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 14:24

"Give the Lady what She Wants"

So Rupert Murdoch gives the Unlearned Masses the red meat they want......

Pirate's picture
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The parrot thinks Marshal

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 16:51

The parrot thinks Marshal Field is some WWI military guy.

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That was Field Marshall Field.... ;)

By Ronald Riml, verified user — Sat, 09/04/2010 - 14:37

as opposed to Feldmarschalleutnant Franz Riml von Altrosenburg, Austro-Hungarian Army

Pirate's picture
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Pretty creative.. You do keep

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 16:35

Pretty creative.. You do keep us entertained. That's why the parrot likes you so much. He used to like Tron, but "he's become just plain mean", sez the parrot.

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If you're talking about Lil,

By momof4, unverified — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 15:22

he's a guy. I think. How are you doing, veritas?

veritas's picture
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Secured Ship for Heavy Weather, Mum...

By Ronald Riml, verified user — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 17:50

You should be O.K. there inland.....

Other than that - I'm obviously still sassy as ever..... LOL

Pirate's picture
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I think you're right, momof4;

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 16:52

I think you're right, momof4; suspect he and Tron are roomies.

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Obama inherited this mess!

By Douglas Mac antSaior, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 07:19

Obama inherited this mess! Oh, wait....that montra doesn't work here?

Pirate's picture
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Yeah, and Bush inherited

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 16:05

Yeah, and Bush inherited Katrina. Clinton was the one who started it.

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Who owns CNN?

By Mike LeBlanc, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 06:26

Thanks, Mr. Gagnon, for mentioning the subject. Ted Turner, well-known anti-Semite, is the largest stock-holder in the parent company of CNN. If Ms. Lane implied that Ted was behind the anti-Israel tirades regularly broadcast on that unbiased and meticulously truthful "news" channel, then we would have a juicy story.

Regarding the letter's ending question. Are you suggesting that newspapers should actually practice .. gasp! .. journalism? It would be nice, but don't hold your breath.

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Oh crap, wasn't meaning to

By David A. Gagnon, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 07:02

Oh crap, wasn't meaning to imply that. Sorry.

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No apology needed. I agree

By Mike LeBlanc, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 07:07

No apology needed. I agree with your comment. I was just pointing out that the letter writer is a wee bit selective in pointing out missing stories.

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Nice Karen, real nice. But

By David A. Gagnon, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 06:11

Nice Karen, real nice. But you also are misleading the folks who will read your missing story. As of 2010 the Prince owns only a small 7% interest in News Corp. parent company of Fox News. I don't consider that meager 7% slice of ownership, made prior to 1997, gives much of a voice in what goes on at Fox. But lets check the rest of his investments that you have conveniently failed to mention as well as the Daily Show has, in trying to damage Fox. Let me start with this. He has also made large investments, large meaning more than 7%, in AOL, Apple Inc., MCI Inc., Motorola, and other technology and media companies. He has a voice in these companies because of his larger than 7% piece of the pie. He has made investments in London's Savoy Hotel and Monaco's Monte Carlo Grand Hotel. He currently holds a 10% stake in Euro Disney SCA, the company that owns, manages and maintains Disneyland Paris in Marne-la-Vallee, France. And he also owns 14.9% of City Bank. Hope you don't have a City Bank credit card. That's just like all the folks who like to feed Hugo Chavez money coffers by purchasing CITCO gas. So in the end, if your purchasing any products or services from any of the above mentioned companies, your feeding into the Princes wealth that he uses to support terrorism. Oh, one more thing, this is the same dude that on October 2001, following the World Trade Center attacks, New York mayor Rudy Giuliani turned down a $10 million donation from. So his investments in News Corp parent company of Fox have not been hidden like you are trying to pretend. Old news that the Daily Show is trying to use in its quest against Fox. I don't consider John Stewart and his fiends at CNN the kind of stand up guys you might think they are. But then who is in the line up of Main Stream Media (CNN, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, NBC) commentators.

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Nice Karen, real nice. But

By David A. Gagnon, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 06:06

Nice Karen, real nice. But you also are misleading the folks who will read your missing story. As of 2010 the Prince owns only a small 7% interest in News Corp. parent company of Fox News. I don't consider that meager 7% slice of ownership, made prior to 1997, gives much of a voice in what goes on at Fox. But lets check the rest of his investments that you have conveniently failed to mention as well as the Daily Show has, in trying to damage Fox. Let me start with this. He has also made large investments, large meaning more than 7%, in AOL, Apple Inc., MCI Inc., Motorola, and other technology and media companies. He has a voice in these companies because of his larger than 7% piece of the pie. He has made investments in London's Savoy Hotel and Monaco's Monte Carlo Grand Hotel. He currently holds a 10% stake in Euro Disney SCA, the company that owns, manages and maintains Disneyland Paris in Marne-la-Vallee, France. And he also owns 14.9% of City Bank. Hope you don't have a City Bank credit card. That's just like all the folks who like to feed Hugo Chavez money coffers by purchasing CITCO gas. So in the end, if your purchasing any products or services from any of the above mentioned companies, your feeding into the Princes wealth that he uses to support terrorism. Oh, one more thing, this is the same dude that on October 2001, following the World Trade Center attacks, New York mayor Rudy Giuliani turned down a $10 million donation from. So his investments in News Corp parent company of Fox have not been hidden like you are trying to pretend. Old news that the Daily Show is using trying to use against Fox. I don't consider John Stewart and his fiends at CNN the kind of stand up guys you might think they are. But then who is in the line up of Main Stream Media (CNN, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, NBC) commentators.

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OMG!

By Brian_L, unverified — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 13:35

Oh my God! The terrorist plot goes further then I thought.
Nice try Dave but what Jon Stewart and the Daily Show was pointing out is that Fox News is hypocritical for saying that the mosque is funded by a person who is supposedly also funding terrorist hence trying to make it sound like the mosque is somehow linked to terrorist somehow from guilt by association. Yet Fox News doesn't say who he is or that he is also linked to the very businesses you mentioned because it would prove that there would be no reason to fear the New York City Mosque.
So the Daily show was saying is if Fox News says that the Mosque is linked to terrorist because this Prince therefore the mosque is bad then in Fox News logic (I know the oxymorons isn't it) If this Prince is part owner on Fox News then Fox News is helping terrorist.

Pirate's picture
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What do you think Jon

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Thu, 09/02/2010 - 16:03

What do you think Jon Stewart's gonna do? Fox is handing him his ass every night in the ratings.

Brian_L's picture

Better ratings doesn't mean

By Brian_L, unverified — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 04:46

Better ratings doesn't mean Fox News reports "fair & Balanced" "news". It just means more sheep are watching.

Pirate's picture
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Jon Stewart is a

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 16:48

Jon Stewart is a COMEDIAN---pretending to be a serious news commentator. Don't you even get that? How old are you; 14?

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You must be one of them or

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 16:32

You must be one of them or you wouldn't know the difference, now, would you?

Brian_L's picture

Well news programs never seem

By Brian_L, unverified — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 04:36

Well news programs never seem to get good ratings over fictional programing.

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Yup...and Jimmy Carter isn't

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Fri, 09/03/2010 - 16:30

Yup...and Jimmy Carter isn't related to Howdy Doody.

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