On Sept. 2, Jared Bristol of Hebron stated in a letter that the proposed Park 51 Islamic Community Center is “a travesty of all that is decent in this country,” and speculated that there are not “more than a handful” of moderate Muslims to be found.
To all who share Bristol’s views, I have two questions:
• How many Muslims do you know personally?
Probably not many, or people would know that not all Muslims are radical terrorists any more than all Christians are obnoxious TV preachers.
• Do you understand the concept of freedom of religion?
Again, maybe not.
In America we have the right to practice any religion, anywhere we like, in any way we see fit, as long as we’re not breaking the law. It doesn’t matter if the majority doesn’t like a certain church. We can’t make laws that say, “Don’t build that church here — move it across town.”
It’s not religious freedom if Christians have it and Muslims don’t.
You know what’s a real travesty? All the self-proclaimed “patriots” spewing hatred and bigotry in the name of the 9/11 victims; that’s what.
Mary Karren-Landry, Poland
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Only stating the facts. If you want hate then just go to any liberal web site or any liberal television station. MSNBC has plenty. Or you could start with Howard Dean. You admire and stick up for any thing that is not right. You live by ideology, feelings and guilt. Political correctness gone amok. You look down your nose at people that embrace conservative views. You consider yourself above others and consider yourself part of the elite. To you anyone with a conservative view is stupid and you have all the right answers. I have read most of your posts and have seen many that have been removed by the staff. I have endured your name calling and really you get tiring. When you can't say something constructive or state a fact which is most of the time then you resort to name calling. Get a grip.
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Ed, Get off your high horse and stop condemning me as if I am a hater of Muslims because I disagree that the mosque should be built at ground zero. I guess according to you if others don't agree with your way of thinking you label them as haters. I never ever said that Muslims don't have a right to build a mosque. If everyone has freedom of religion in this country why doesn't Pastor Jones in Florida have the right to burn the Koran? It seems everyone is up in arms that Muslims will be offended and they will get violent. Well that is an understatement. They really need another excuse to kill? I feel though Pastor Jones has the right to burn the Koran, he should not do so out of respect for the Muslim religion. I also believe Muslims should build their mosque away from ground zero out of respect for the 911 families. I believe that respect for others and common sense is more important. I have read the posts that vicious hating liberals have written in these blogs against catholic priests, the catholic religion, Jesus and God to name a few. Maybe you need to work on your own tolerance and accept that others have different views than yourself.
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We do hate viciousness, Barb - and where do we hear none so more than on the daily diatribes of Fox, Rush, et al.....???
While these allege the 'Media' is liberal - yet one does not hear constant reference to "Conservatives" this and that from the MSM - as one does the constant mention and harangue of "Liberal" from your spectrum.
While you squint at the splinter in our eye, you fail to see the log in yours.
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I never said it was , but pay attention ok?..I just pointed out your reference to someone else mentioning religion....
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Funny, the writer fails to mention how many people are being killed by radical Muslims on a daily basis, but is able to provide the stats of killings by the Christan faith. It's acceptable to blow others up in the name of Allah.I guess that in the liberal arena Christians are the only ones not tolerant of other's religions. Of course we know that under the constutition Muslims have a right to build a mosque. That is not the issue. Liberals, always preaching sensitivity fail to have any feelings of the 911 victims families. Most don't care if there is a Mosque built, just not at the 911 site. It is a matter of respect. Of course the anti religious liberals who hate Christians fail to even mention or denounce the hate perpetrated against Christians. There was a an HBO program titled "Curb your enthusiasm"where the main actor urinates on a picture of Jesus. A pastor Walter Hoye of Oakland, CA jailed for exercising pro-life speech. The "Antichrist"movie that is the most vile form of filth against Christians going. The appointment of Obama's czars,John Holdren who views "adult dogs as more rational than a human baby"and "abortion can save the planet" Then of course we have the ACLU who has fought to remove crosses from buildings, prevented prayer in schools and any other removal of any form of Christianity from schools at Christmas time. Any and all attacks on Christianity are tolerated and never denounced by the liberal left. The silence is deafening. The issue is "freedom OF religion" not from religion as most liberals in here believe.
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A New York Cop who lost his wife on 9/11 - another New York Cop, was mostly aggrieved by the fact that the new World Trade Center had not yet been built in nine years.
He had no problem with the Islamic Community Center being built in the old Burlington Coat building on Park Place.
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the fact that while this nation may have been founded by Christians, it was never meant to be a "Christian" nation. It was founded to be a nation that was tolerant of all religions. That's why they put that "separation of church and state" thing in the Constitution. Remember that???
We all have feelings for the families of the people lost in the 9/11 attacks but the only difference between them and the people who lost family members on the Timothy McVeigh attack are that the attackers were not from this country. It's a lot easier to hate on the foreigner than it is on the "misguided" American. Focusing our anger and hatred on one particular sect or religious group is not the way to achieve peace and harmony on this planet. Admitting that there are factions within all groups whose beliefs run contrary to our own is a great first step. Realizing that all people who are of a certain belief code are not bad just because some are is a second step.
If we go with the idea that all Muslims are bad because some of them blew up the World Trade Center, then we also have to believe that all Catholics are child molesters. As for the rest of your rant, If you really read the Bible, rather than spout rhetoric, you'll see that Christ himself was one of those liberals you speak so poorly of. His father might have been a little harsh, but then Christians don't worship him, do they? He's Old Testament and Christianity is based on the New Testament, which says to love your neighbor.
You can't mix the two, old and new, without sounding like a mad man. Oh, last but not least, freedom of religion means that, should I or any one else choose not to worship the way you do, or not at all, that's OK. It doesn't mean that you can try to stuff your beliefs down our throats.
I am not a Liberal, nor am I Conservative. What I am is a person who believes that everybody should be left to their own devices until they commit an act that jeopardizes the general welfare. Then, and only then, should they be dealt with in such a manner that they never want to do it again.
Osama Bin Laden and his groupies need to be stopped, I agree. That doesn't mean that every Muslim in the country needs to be harassed based on his name. The Pope and most of the Catholic Hierarchy needs to be put in jail but that doesn't mean that all Catholics need to be harassed.
Barb, take off your blinders and look at your neighbors, the people at your local convenience store, the staff at you hospital and you'll see that there are many of them who fall into the groups of people you have condemned, yet you smile and say hello to them every day without realizing who or what they are.
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No???
Perhaps that's why the silence is deafening.
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No, we don't burn Christians today,
What I want to know is why you even bring this up as an argument, when you are the one that keeps bringing up "the crusades"?
I am pretty sure that the "crusades" took place many years before any Christian got burned.
So what is your beef?
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Crusades: 11th - 13th Centuries
Roman persecution of Christians, including burning in the tunica molest* - A.D. 64 through the 3rd Century
(Latin for "annoying shirt") was a shirt impregnated with flammable substances such as naphtha, used to execute people by burning in ancient Rome. The Roman emperor Nero executed some Christians in this way, according to Seneca.
Also - "In their very deaths they were made the subjects of sport: for they were covered with the hides of wild beasts, and worried to death by dogs, or nailed to crosses, or set fire to, and when the day waned, burned to serve for the evening lights."
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Great letter! Vzep, you miss the point.
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Great letter Mary- Karen Bravo tolerant America!
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Bravo!!
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No Fundamentalist Christians have killed 3000 people in one day in recent history have they?
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Try Six Million - but not in a single day.
Gott Mit Uns - God With Us
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70 years ago isn't recent history.
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Just so it fits your agenda, hey vzep....
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I wasn't aware the Nazi's were a religious group either, but why let facts fet in the way if you want to make a point and hope no one will counter it because of the vileness of the group you point at....nice try though.
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But a political one: "Al Qaeda" - that retaliated against us for security reasons.*
*Statement of Osama bin Ladin in his video of October, 2004
So it is you, Rob, who are also misrepresenting reality. As the Nazi's misrepresented their affilitation with God.
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And it seems the crusades are recent enough for your agenda veritas.
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