I'd like to respond to George Jones' letter about lies in the media (Sept. 8).
There are as many TV programs that discuss "how" the news is covered as "what" the news is.
Up until several years ago, I rarely heard the term "media bias" in conversations. Since Fox News has become so popular, I hear it all the time. It's almost like people can't form their own opinions. They like to repeat what was said on a very popular TV show. The latest term you hear is "Obama is a socialist" (from Glenn Beck).
Sure enough, the latter part of Mr. Jones' letter says it's wrong for the media to denigrate Fox News, Glenn Beck, etc.
I have no problem if a network is from the left or right, as long as they're up front about it. Fox seems so phony, calling itself "fair and balanced."
Bill O'Reilly's show is the most popular. It opens with two commentaries from people on the right (along with O'Reilly's comments). It isn't until he has a guest on that the other side gets their say.
People are going to watch the programs that already lean toward their opinions. Then they will point out comments that back up their own arguments.
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Under Obama the CBO reports that Obama's 2011 budget will cause 10 trillion dollars in budget deficits over the next 10 years. In 2010 the debt will raise to 90% of GDP. A forty percent increase from 2008. These figures are facts from the liberal Washington Times. Makes Bush look like a conservative spender.
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Now are you going to have the grace and dignity to correct yourself, Barb???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times
"The political views of The Washington Times are often described as conservative.[24][25][26] The Washington Post reported: "the Times was established by Moon to combat communism and be a conservative alternative to what he perceived as the liberal bias of The Washington Post."[4] In 1994 Reed Irvine, chairman of Accuracy in Media, a conservative media watchdog group, said: "The Washington Times is one of the few newspapers in the country that provides some balance."
The Times was read every day by President Ronald Reagan during his terms in office.[27] In 1997 he said:
The American people know the truth. You, my friends at The Washington Times, have told it to them. It wasn't always the popular thing to do. But you were a loud and powerful voice. Like me, you arrived in Washington at the beginning of the most momentous decade of the century. Together, we rolled up our sleeves and got to work. And—oh, yes—we won the Cold War.[28]"
24.^ Hall, Mimi (2001-03-22). "Bush, aides boost access of conservative media". USA Today. http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2001-03-22-media.htm#more. Retrieved 2009-07-25.
25.^ Glaberson, William (1994-06-27). "The Media Business; Conservative Daily Tries to Expand National Niche". The New York Times. http://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/27/business/the-media-business-conservati.... Retrieved 2009-07-25.
26.^ New business models for news are not that new, Nikki Usher, Knight Digital Media Center, 2008-12-17, "And the Washington Times' conservative stance pursues its agenda from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church."
27.^ Behind the Times Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting August/September 1987
28.^ Dear Leader's Paper Moon The American Prospect 2005-09-19
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Vertais, The reason Bill Clinton had a surplus is because the "Republicans had control of the house of Representatives, where all bills originate, for the first time in 40 years." I know that president Bush did not veto a lot of spending bills which he should have done. The Obama administration is just more of the last two years of the Bush administration controlled by the democrats, who spend like they are on steroids. Why do you think the tea party was formed? To many weak Republicans who vote with democrats. The people are FED UP with the massive spending and are sending a message. Enough already.
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Reagan began the massive spending orgy back in the 80's. Figured we had a longer line of credit than the Soviet Union and outspent them which the arms race.
Of course, he also brought us Voodoo Economics with the 'Trickle Down' Economy that didn't.....
Clinton had a surplus because the economy boomed and his tax cut was actually paid for; unlike those of Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II.
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Manipulating numbers to reflect a surplus does not ACTUALLY create a surplus. The only ones foolish enough to keep crowing about the Bubba surplus are the ones to stupid to research for themselves, those too ignorant to not believe everything they hear in the Daily Show or read on the Kos, or those who want the ignorant and stupid to keep on being blind, foolish , myrmidons. Oh, and the racist supposed ex cops also. One needs to understand a bit of economics and how the national debt works, to understand that not only did Bubba not have a surplus, there was an increase in debt of almost $300 billion (with a B) dollars. But why let silly things like facts get in the way of an argument about who is telling the truth in the news?
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He attacks other's military service without proof to back it up. OK - No surplus, but reduced debt as percentage of Gross Domestic Product.
So you provided no proof of what you stated, eh Gil?? Of course not. Here's the link: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms
Clinton decreased debt 9.7% yearly GDP.
Reagan raised it 20.6% GDP, Bush I raised it 15% GDP, and Bush II raised it 27.1% of GDP.
And you Tea-Tards "Want Your Country Back?" You have nothing by a history of mismanagement!! Bwa-haa-haa-haaa!!!
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You are one of the dumb masses who insist on seeing only part of the picture and pretending you know what you are talking about. Do some real research, take a course on economics, and get a real understanding of how things work. Bubba's numbers are an end result of borrowing from one fund to make another look better. I can't put it any simpler than that.
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But the only time you ever did that, Gilliam, was to tell me to watch a particular time slot on a VHS. Why not include a web link, with a quote?
You may notice that I've admitted my mistakes here. You? Never. Nada. Not once. That tells us a bit about you. And the fact that you've never referenced your statements.
You may start with your allegation about Clinton. Clock's ticking, Gilliam.
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Do your own research, that's how you find things out for yourself. I know it's easier to just regurgitate the crap you hear and read without verifying it, but I am not here to do your research for you.
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You've obviously never had to cite your own research; just throw out garage and see what sticks.
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well done, Barb; well done.
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You got it, Gurl...
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Biased news channels are any ones that "you" don't agree with. The news channels "you" agree with are the only credible news stations. This applies to everyone.
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that claims to be 'fair and balanced.' And it isn't. That would be fine, but they brag a lie, and keep telling it so often that the amoebas who watch actually believe it. There are more idiots who believe in FOX NEWS? than believe the Daily Show is real news.
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But, T... how do you know what they say isn't true? What do you have to measure it against; Jon Stewart? Katy Couric? Larry King? David Letterman? Bill Maher? I mean, c'mon, man, be realistic.
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Whammo!! Beam me up again, Scottie.
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Presented with simple objective facts, conservative deny, deny, deny. They live in a fantasy world of spirits where the laws of nature can be changed by a whim. Look at Paul LePage. Faced by the well established fact that he gamed the system to save himself tens of thousands of dollars in college costs, his answer was a well considered expletive.
His only qualification for Governor is that he's an expert is selling junk at Marden's and gaming the welfare system. When you look out at Portland harbor he wants you to see a sea of derricks and oil platforms. When you go swimming at OOB, he wants you to take plenty of detergent to wash off the tar balls. When you look down from Katadin he wants you to see nothing but dirt, no trees, no wildlife while will make the Wind Turbines stretching as far as the eye can see more visible. And he wants all of us to have good jobs paying $8/hr. No social security, no medicare, no FED, no Department of Education, no SSI, no Department of Commerce, no DEP, and no BEP, no government intervention in the family, no DHHS. But just as the census requires 100's of thousands of temporary workers. He has many ideas for new government jobs like the pregnancy police who will follow through every day to make certain every pregnancy goes to full term and those dinosaur assistants who feed (no trees no natural food) and care for all those dinosaurs the kids ride on.
A vote for Cutler is a vote for LePage. A vote for LePage is a vote to make the poor and working people of Maine poorer and the rich richer.
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And Libby Mitchell will solve all of Maine's problems after she spent the last 36 years participating in the process of creating all of them. Is that it, jalb?
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Next thing you know there will be a Republican running for a federal office who thinks there are mice running a round with human brains!
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Parrot sez, "Hey, that's heavy s**t, man!!!
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We know there are humans running around with mouse brains--we call 'em Democrats!
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change the channel if you are so afraid of the truth? What channel is your idea of "hard" news? are you Katie Couric fans, lil, tron and company??? baa, baa.....
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I hope, unlike Sarah the Palin, you can actually answer that.... ;)
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Everything I can get my hands on. I even read garbage like USA Today just to see what the nutjobs think. For lighter fare I am reading My Life in France by Julia Child, cuz I am a "foodie". But the Bible is my fave. For funsies right now I am reading thru 287 pages of Comprehensive Land Use Code--checking out the dozens of useless, obstructionist rules that make life miserable....how bout you ?
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Night-time reading now two volumes Short Stories of Somerset Maugham; Bible by my armchair is the Viking Studio printing of the Ltd Ed Pennyroyal-Caxton Press (Barry Moser illustrated) - I wish I could afford an original but the $13,000 is about what LePage saved on tuition by claiming his daughters were Florida residents. Bet you didn't know I owned any.
Living in a book shop is absolute heaven - satellite is out while the roofers are working, I didn't mind but wife is going nuts.
BTW - those obstructionist rules are why life is not so miserable as having slaughter-house offal et al in your ground water and next door, along with many other pains in the butt. Read 'The Jungle' for impetus in re 'Pure Food and Drug Act'
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that some of the rules are necessary, but some are just plain useless. Unfortunately, this particular code is subject to interpretation and needs fine-tuning, as it is causing a degree of hate and discontent, as well as feelings of unfairness. Need to trim off about a hundred pages, (yawn)....dry stuff.
Would love to indulge in heavier reading but Baldy and company have me working long hours to take care of my family. Too tired to read after job number 3. So you live in a book shop? Cool beans, that is something I would certainly enjoy! Maybe someday....
Be patient with your wife---she probably puts up with alot....:)
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Very little new under the sun unless there are unique circumstances in a particular jurisdiction.
I alternate between heavy and lighter reading. Opted for the short stories this go around as I could complete one before I turned the lights out. Maugham's an interesting author; trained as an M.D, he never practiced, was sort of a 'spy' - wrote quite a bit about the East (which I also appreciate) Last book was heavier stuff on British-French conflict in Middle East (Egypt) and India and how collecting of relics (looting) was integral to imperialism - now viewed as archeological treasures. The Louvre vs. British Museum. Interestingly enough, it was an Italian circus strongman, Giovanni Belzoni, who was one of the most successful treasure hunters.
My wife is an absolute Dear; I cook, she gardens, and we live in paradise with two dogs and two cats. Occasionally we even sell a book... ;)
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Living in the bookshop while the 18 room, 8 bedroom, 7 bathroom bungalow is bein built? 0O:)
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I've got a 'Tree-House' apartment on the second storey while the first is jammed with books. But that does give me water views which I would otherwise have to get in the basement after a monsoon....
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LOL...roger that. I get to see Mt. Washington on a clear winter's day, but I think a water view would be preferable, being a pirate and all.
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that I'll bet Parrot's is like a mansion!! (he doesn't leave his dirty socks on the floor, does he?)
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Are you kidding? I can't get him to wear any, although he does like to wear ONE on his head after he's been into the catnip.
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The left thinks Jon Stewart is their guru of the news, never realizing that he's a comedian, and a lousy one at that. Dennis Miller would eat him for lunch and then steal his lunch.
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So if the Bill O'Reilly show is the most popular, And fox news has the highest ratings and viewers , and as you say it is biased to the right .. Wouldnt the popularity tell you that the majority of Americans probably lean to the right?? Well in a country where the majority rules that would lead one to believe that the lefties are in for it come November.. Must be hard for the lefties to swallow but victory in November will be on the right, Because its right..
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You are spot on, KD. Well said.
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John, are you one of the 10 people than tune into MSNBC? Destroy the Obama administration? I think Obama is doing a great job by himself. Obama will spend 280 billion more in 2010 on welfare than Bush spent on the Iraq war. Two years after Bush left office and the 787 billion dollar stimulus that was supposed to keep the unemployment below 8% failed. Oh should I mention that Los Angels created 55 jobs with 11 billion dollars from the porkulus. wow! The unemployment rate is now at 9.7%. In fact the unemployment rate has risen two points since Obama has taken over. The liberal democrats are the no jobs,food stamp and creating more poor party. If the administration was doing an effective job unemployment rates would be dropping and more jobs would be created. I would have given the man the benefit of the doubt had I seen some improvement but the democrats are going a wild spending spree with the help from some liberal Republicans. One would have to be a major idiot to believe that things are getting better and that it is still Bush's fault after almost two years of Obama taking office. Fact "No president can create either a budget deficit or a budget surplus." "All bills originate in the House and all taxes are voted in by Congress." "Both houses of congress were controlled by democrats so it looks like Obama inherited this mess from congressional democrats." You may be able to fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the all of the time.
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The 55 jobs created in LA, are those new or saved government employee's jobs? How much of that money do you think was spent for services contracted out (hint, private employment)? And where do you get your numbers from? Mattel?
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It's out there. Check it out for yourself. I did.
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And all bills are signed by the President, Forget that, Barb? As all budgets are presented by the President.
Big Tax Cuts under Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II - touted as such by the very same administrations - and very large deficits under the same administrations. Clinton, however, ran a surplus, albeit small, during his administration.
It's all right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms
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and some people are born Fox News fools, right Boob?
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Now let me see, you name called Barb Boob? So, what should we call you? How about, Lilly-Nilly?
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I think it's sexist that lilly called Barb, boob. Are you calling her boob because she has breasts? Are you threatened by her breasts? Did your mom not breast feed you as a child? Did she breastfeed you well into your teens? Exactly what is the issue here? Can I start calling people c$%k?
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The reason so many Americans dislike FOX News? is not because of their conservative bias, although some object to it, but mainly their hypocrisy, their insistence that their 'fair and balanced',when in reality they are not. They have an agenda, destroy the Obama administration, for one, then conspire to harp on it continuously. They are NOT a news network, but and opinion network, they do not provide any hard news without a liberal dose of conservative opinion mixed in.
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T, ol' buddy, ol' pal....If so many Americans dislike FOX News, why do they continuously eat everyone else's lunch in the Ratings? No one even comes close to them in ratings. Someone must like them.
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in a very narrow parameters of opinion news. When it comes to mainstream news, they're scraping the bottom of the dung heap in the cellar. Even Jon Stewart beats O'Reilly, their alleged superstar.
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"when it comes to mainstream news, they're scraping the bottom of the dung heap in the cellar." And, you got that little bit of information from where; Media Matters? The very term "mainstream news" defines what you get from the alphabet channels. They give you what they "feel" you ought to have, whereas, FOX gives you what's actually out there; like it or not. I tried watching Wolfy Blitzer's "Situation Room" the other night. That mother is just absolutely nauseating.
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from Kathy Lee Gifford. And if Fox News had no impact, these dopes wouldn't be so nervous and upset...
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Excellent point; momof4...I want someone to step up and defend the creating/saving of 55 jobs jobs in Los Angeles at a cost $111 million. (The sound of crickets can be heard in the background).
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