Wind ordinance hearing draws few

RUMFORD — Few people turned out Monday night for a public hearing on a proposed wind ordinance that residents will decide on Nov. 2.

Eileen M. Adams/Sun Journal

Neil Kiely, director of development for New England for First Wind LLC, spoke of the benefits of wind power development in Rumford at Monday's Rotary Club weekly meeting.

Those who spoke, however, said the ordinance was a protective measure for Rumford residents.

“If there is no wind ordinance, citizens are at the mercy of developers,” said Jim Thibodeau, a member of the Wind Advisory Committee “If there is no ordinance and you have an issue, you have no power. This is protective. Please vote this in.”

Also speaking were Dan McKay, who opposes a similar project in Dixfield and wind development in general, Rumford resident Len Greaney and Dr. Albert Aniel, who has also opposed the the development of wind projects in the area because of what he said is a danger to peoples' health.

Representatives of potential developers First Wind LLC of Boston, Mass., did not speak during the hearing.

Following the hearing, Neil Kiely, First Wind's director of development for New England, said that there will be opportunities to speak at two more Rumford meetings set for Oct. 12 at Mountain Valley High School, which will also include a hearing on proposed charter changes, and Oct. 14 in the Rumford Falls Auditorium.

Earlier in the day, Kiely spoke before the weekly Rotary Club meeting.

At that time, he said the company plans to begin holding a series of informational meetings with various groups to let people know the benefits of developing the ridges of Black Mountain and two adjacent mountains.

Kiely said that the ordinance, as proposed, would not allow his company to develop the tentatively planned project that calls for building 12 turbines in Rumford and seven in adjacent Roxbury on privately owned, leased land. That project would add about $65 million to the towns' tax value, he said.

The proposed ordinance, he said, is as restrictive as one developed in Dixmont that he said effectively banned wind project development.

At the Rotary meeting, he said First Wind uses a variety of scientific experts to study plants, wildlife, sound and other aspects of wind development. He said the company is also a good corporate citizen by supporting youth projects and scholarships, conservation efforts, and other socially positive activities.

He asked Rotarians to oppose the current proposed ordinance, then start over with the development of another ordinance.

Aniel, a Mexico resident, said at Monday's hearing that the 40 decibel limit for nighttime noise called for in the ordinance mirrors guidelines written in a State Planning Office document issued in 2000.

Later state regulations allow 45 decibels at night and 55 during the day.

Prior to Monday's hearing, one selectman said First Wind should have presented its perspective at a wind forum held last week which about 50 people attended, with the vast majority opposed to wind development.

Kiely said Monday night that his company did not receive the invitation until the day before the Tuesday event.

At the Rotary meeting, President Rich Allen said he has heard much publicity against wind development. He questioned whether the objections were widespread or confined to a small vocal group.

A spokeswoman for First Wind said Monday night that the company plans to present the benefits of wind turbine development at both the Oct. 12 and Oct. 14 meetings.

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windsprawl's picture

time

In Lincoln we were told we couldn't speak for more than two minutes. I guess the Town Council was coached by FirstWind's lawyers , so Rumford cirizens beware. The back room deals are well on the way. I hope enough on your council will not stand for the Boston politics and remember they should protect the citizens first. FirstCitizens not FirstWind. Please note the "science" FirstWind boasts of having done are skewed toward their desired result and so are not INDEPENDENT studies. The Lincoln permit notes there is bird and bat mortality, but it is "not unreasonable". They 'extrapolated" data from Rollins 1 to Rollins 2 ao as not to have to count the 4 eagles nests on Rollins 2. Sneaky, no? There are wetlands being filled in. That also is "not unreasonable", though they will pay a mitigation fee for doing it. The DEP and DIFW couldn't care less and rubber stamped everything. I guess when you are told if you do not play by the Gov's rules you will be terminated, it gets your attention. I have been told in confidence that many do not want or agree with windsprawl but jobs are so scarce now they do not dare to rock the boat. What a corrupt aligning of everything which will ruin the outdoors here in Maine. The only chance is for local ordinances unless they change those laws too. They are trying. Rumford, protect yourselves while you still are legally able and enact a tough ordinance. Let the greedy leasers whine, and the Boston Enronners take their shell companies back to the city. Thank you.

dj_inda_am's picture

oh, poor Kevin,

did he hurt your feelings?

KNSaisi's picture
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no

not at all

rumforddude's picture

Kevin quick!!

Do something! Candiceanne is encroaching on your village idiot title. Now there is something that should be on the ballot! ;-)

dj_inda_am's picture

No worries Rumforddude,

the king is alive and well; long live the king. Kevin is the moderator so there is virtually no chance he loses the title.

KNSaisi's picture
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Sad

It is sad that you feel so threatened by CandiceAnne's comments that you need to resort to personal attacks. Nobody deserves to be dubbed the village idiot. It is rude and insensitive.

dxs0ttq's picture

I guess before you make fun

I guess before you make fun of someone else's grammar you might want to check your own.

dxs0ttq's picture

Last message was for Tron.

Last message was for Tron.

CommonSense's picture

If candiceann went out and

If candiceann went out and infected Tron with her flu, we would have to try and muster up some sympathy for him. On second thought, the sympathy would have to go to candiceann for getting close enough to him to infect him. ewwwwwww I feel sorry for her just thinking about it.

PenobScot's picture

You are not fooling anyone

...by dropping the e on candiceanne.

We know you ARE candiceanne and it's pathetic. And when we say KNOW, we mean KNOW.

PenobScot's picture

Wind turbines are corporate welfare

Candiceanne - how can someone who is so against welfare for people be so for welfare for corporations like First Wind? If they are so great, why must they be so heavily reliant on federal subsidies, which already use borrowed money we don't have in this country? Particularly when most of the turbines are built in foreign countries?

So again, an individual shouldn't get welfare, but a company that is tied into Obama's friend Larry Summer should.

DWilson's picture

looud pipes don't save lives

Why can't we have one ordnance that covers it all, the mill, wind turbbins, loud pipes on motorcycles, the horrible noise from loggers, any future industry? Why are we nitpicking one at a time? The committee has found a noise level that is supposed to be the right level, why can't we have it fore everything? The roads for the wind turbines are going to be a probelem, well have you seen these logging roads and the roads to the cell towers? They are a mess and cause terrible runoff and polllution to the lakes, rivers and streams same as the turbine roads would. Something needs to be done about them, the committee is right about that to. They are also right about how ugly the turbines are in the landscape just like the staks with that awuful flashing light at the mill day and night and all those ugly cellphone towars on the mountains. Those took blasting away the mountain tops ya no. That should not be allowed. They cut a lot of trees for one tower. And for what, so the cellphone people can get rich, thats for what. and they are really ugly plus they have those ugly flashing red lights all the time. who pays to get rid of them in 5 years when they are out of date? huh? Why are we allowing any of it?

DWilson's picture

looud pipes don't save lives

Why can't we have one ordnance that covers it all, the mill, wind turbbins, loud pipes on motorcycles, the horrible noise from loggers, any future industry? Why are we nitpicking one at a time? The committee has found a noise level that is supposed to be the right level, why can't we have it fore everything? The roads for the wind turbines are going to be a probelem, well have you seen these logging roads and the roads to the cell towers? They are a mess and cause terrible runoff and polllution to the lakes, rivers and streams same as the turbine roads would. Something needs to be done about them, the committee is right about that to. They are also right about how ugly the turbines are in the landscape just like the staks with that awuful flashing light at the mill day and night and all those ugly cellphone towars on the mountains. Those took blasting away the mountain tops ya no. That should not be allowed. They cut a lot of trees for one tower. And for what, so the cellphone people can get rich, thats for what. and they are really ugly plus they have those ugly flashing red lights all the time. who pays to get rid of them in 5 years when they are out of date? huh? Why are we allowing any of it?

my view's picture
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When this

comes up to a vote 75% of the people voting on it wont have a clue how to vote because they wont understand the ordinance, they will just vote based on what they are being told from either side of the issue.

Blueyes1119's picture

Conspiracy & Discrimination

Candiceanne has been harping on for months about her perspective that the proposed wind ordinance in Rumford is a conspiracy and today she claims the proposed ordinance discriminates against the wind industry. Well, le grippe has addled Candiceanne's brain, as she fails to realize that the entire wind industry as we know it in the USA is a conspiracy between the Enron Wind guys after Enron--remember Enron?--collapsed and major turbine component manufacturers like GE. They heavily lobbied Congress and state legislatures to create subsidies to support an industry that can't stand on its own in a free market. They masterfully co-opted the concerns about greenhouse gasses, global warming, climate change---choose your fright du jour---turning the useless wind turbine into a pop icon. That is conspiracy, not writing an ordinance to protect all citizens from a new and unique form of noise and health impacts from low frequency infrasound. Just ask the 18 people in Mars Hill who are suing First Wind about the need for protective ordinances.

Regarding discrimination, there is nothing more discriminatory in this state than the heinous Expedited Wind Permitting statute that sets aside normal environmental review, speeds up processes such that it curtails citizen participation, outright excludes visual impact, and relies on noise standards adopted more than 30 years ago which do not apply to industrial wind turbines (including no measure of dBC scale noise), and takes away local citizens' right to determine whether or not there should be industrial wind sites in their communities or how to appropriately site them. Given this, the wise communities enact wind turbine ordinances, the only sure way to protect the health and well being of all citizens. There are far too many politicians on every level who are too willing to say a portion of the citizens are expendable in order to welcome the scourge of the wind industry to their town. Sounds like a conspiracy, doesn't it?

charlie's picture

Timber Harvesting

Really, Candiceanne--You mean if I were a logger and had landowner permission, I could harvest timber anywhere in Rumford 24/7 - 365 days/year for 20 years and I wouldn't be restricted?? I am moving into the area!! Are you on the Planning Board in Rumford?

candiceanne's picture

Charlie, I asked the folks

Charlie, I asked the folks that drafted the anti-wind power ordinance, "If we delete all references to 'wind power' from this and apply it accross the board would the business, industry and activity would the mill, gas plant, hydro plant, construction, traffic, and personal activities be permitted." The answer was a resounding no, the paper mill, gas plant and hydro plant would all be gone, construction would be gone, traffic a problem as would many personal activities and buildings as we now know them. Logging would not be permitted at all.

Rumford does not have a noise, visual, or other ordiance for operations at this time. There are supposed "quiet hours" but those relate to disturbing the peace issues i.e. load music, fighting and good luck getting them enforced.

Charlie, harvesting timber in the dark sounds like a really good way for you to hurt yourself. I previously served on the Planning Board, a complete set of by-laws, ordinances and the town charter are available on the Town of Rumford's website http://www.rumfordmaine.net/

candiceanne's picture

I was not at last night's

I was not at last night's meeting do to illness. I have been trained very well by Healthy Community Director Patty Dugay on how not to spred the Flu including staying home.

For those who Disagree with Kevin Saisi on his comment, he is the Town Moderator, good luck if you think you are going to conduct your self other than in accordance to the rules at the next meeting. Kevin is very fair, he holds everyone to the rules.

As to a Wind Ordinance, we don't need one. It is bad practice to chase after every individual development prospect and activity individually. We need comprehensive ordinances that will apply to everyone and everything. I have read the ordiance proposed and asked if you took out the words "wind power" and applied it to all activities and industries that exist or we would like to have in our town would they be permitted and the answer was a resounding NO. On visual and sound grounds we could not have the paper mill, the gas power plant in the industrial park or the hydro plant just for starters. We would have problems with transportation (traffic noise), lawnmowers, construction ie saws, sanders, glint from vehicles as well as home and comercial building windows just for starters. On noise alone timber harvesting would have to cease. In short, the proposed ordinance is discriminatory. I am also concerned that by discriminating against one we set ourselves up for a successful lawsuit.

I suggest we develop ordinances on noise, visual impact, et cetera that we will apply to all current and future industry and activity and not just wind power. What is bad for the people of Rumford, is bad for the people of Rumford whether it comes from wind power, the mill, or a homeowners lawnmower. What is good for Rumford is good for Rumford no matter where it comes from.

dj_inda_am's picture

Kevin

barely understands the rules, much less is able to hold anyone accountable to them. It's really a sign of how far the town of Rumford has fallen that someone like Kevin Saisi gets elected moderator. Have literally all the good people thrown up their hands and quit on town politics?

KNSaisi's picture
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Actually...

I spent many hours this summer reading and understanding the 740+ page book Roberts Rules of Order. I also have a good comprehension of the Rumford Town Charter and the applicable Ordinances. At town meeting, I have all of these documents for reference if needed, as well as the competent guidance of our Town Attorney. At the last meeting, the only correction made to me personally is when I misread a date.

As they say on MSNBC; You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

tron's picture

one great way for you to not spread the flu

is to move back to alaska. and you missed DUE to illness, not DO. What kind of schooling did you get, anyways?

candiceanne's picture

Unfortunately, Tron, my

Unfortunately, Tron, my parents weren't smart enough to move out of Maine to get me a good education, I got all my education in the good old State of Maine. See what you get for your tax dollars. Oh, I forgot you don't pay taxes; our tax dollars pay for you.

tron's picture

As usual, you are

a dang liar, but what should we expect from people like you!

candiceanne's picture

Tron, I attended Rumford

Tron, I attended Rumford schools, graduated from Rumford High School. Went on to the University of Maine at Orono. Returned to continue my education at the University of Maine at Farmington. Then through great circumstance was able to get a third degree in something I just enjoyed doing at Central Maine Community College before moving to Florida, not Alaska. I hate the cold. Now I am in graduate school.

dj_inda_am's picture

Tron,

there you go! That should answer it for you.

Kevin Saisi's picture

October 12th

Please be advised that the October 12th meeting is a formal Town Meeting for discussion of the issue. There are limits on how long a person can speak, and those who are not residents need approval form the citizens present to be allowed to speak.

tron's picture

ans where does one get

the approval form?

KNSaisi's picture
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from not form

Sorry, that was a typo. Non-residents wishing to speak require permission of the voters present.

KNSaisi's picture
verified

HA!

The "disagree" above only proves that some people will disagree with me regardless of what I say. The requirement that non-residents (non-member of the assembly) obtain approval to speak is not only part of Roberts Rules of Order, but also the way our town has been handling the issue since town meetings began. You may disagree with the policy, but the procedure is well established.

dj_inda_am's picture

Why

would you even want one?

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