Skidder tracks make us doubt Council's motives

For an organization that depends upon public support, the Pine Tree Council, Boy Scouts of America, seems completely inept at public relations.

Local users of Camp Gustin in Sabattus were shocked this week to learn that the Council has begun an aggressive tree-cutting program at the camp.

The fate of the land has been in limbo for about a year, since it was learned the organization's property committee recommended selling the camp for development.

Supporters argue that the land was deeded to the Scouts by Charles W. Gustin in 1933 for use as a wilderness camp. Indeed, over the decades thousands of Scouts have had fun and learned outdoor skills there.

The Council's Executive Committee says Gustin is the most lightly used of the Council's camps and is a burden to the financially strapped district.

It is, however, hard to see how. The district pays no taxes on the land, maintenance is done by volunteers and the road is plowed free of charge.

All of which has led local supporters to conclude the district is only after the money a sale would generate.

A visit to the site Friday showed that the district is certainly not clearing the land. In fact, the area nearest to Loon Pond is untouched.

Yet, the work certainly doesn't resemble a selective thinning of trees. Muddy skidder trails run through campsites and all over the once heavily wooded back side of the camp, away from the lake.

Gustin clearly won't look like its former self, at least not for a long time.

Several facts make us suspicious of the Council's stated  intentions.

First, this work could have been done when the ground was frozen. Instead, the large, chained wheels of a skidder have chewed up the ground beyond recognition.

Campers next year will be pitching tents in the mud.

Second, the Council says this is part of an ordinary harvesting program. Yet, scouting sources say none of the district's other camps have been chewed up like this.

Finally, if it is part of a regular program, why start here? Why now? Why without even notifying local supporters that this was coming?

With the controversy over Gustin raging, why not start the cutting program at a camp that is not in dispute?

The Council says the tree-cutting is unrelated to the question of selling the property.

But they certainly should have seen how all of this, especially the secrecy, would be interpreted by the camp supporters.

In November, the sale question comes again before the Council for what may be a final vote.

We will repeat what we've said before:

As long as local Scouts choose to use Gustin for scouting purposes, the Council has a moral duty to abide by the wishes of Charles W. Gustin and his heirs.

If the district finds the camp burdensome, it should either deed it to a local group that will maintain it for scouting or return it to the Gustin family.

The first two requirements of the Scout Law say Scouts must be trustworthy and loyal.

Selling Camp Gustin would show that Council leaders are neither.

editorialboard@sunjournal.com

Rex Rhoades

Camp Gustin

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tireguy2008's picture

can you say something smells in the air?

this has the smell of a certain district exec from canton all over it. those people dont realize they are running themselves out of their own cushy jobs.

ojhuig's picture

can't see the forest for the trees?

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fatandhappy's picture

I don't get it????

What's the problem?

BWright's picture
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jojones80, I imagine some of

jojones80, I imagine some of the money is going towards the debt on the Taj Mahal in Portland. Instead of punishing the children with the raping and selling of the camp, sell the GD Taj Mahal and make the higher ups live within the means. These kids are busting their humps to support the elite within the council. The council needs to be replaced!

jojones80's picture

A SunJournal report on where

A SunJournal report on where the money is going (i.e., follow the money) might be interesting.

where did the values go's picture

Until Trust is restorn we are fighting a loosing battle

Replace all executives at the council level. Task the new leaders with rebuilding the confidence in our council, give them 3 years to regain public support, have them put their primary focus on helping units build stronger programs to increase enrollment. I can only imagine that under the right leadership the financial woes can be solved and then there will be no need to sell ANY scout camps. Until public trust can be rebuilt in the leadership we will be fighting a fundraising battle that we cant win.

I can on assume that once that has been done, and units and council work together towards the greater good that as a team we can rebuild and be successful. Right now the divide between Units and Council is too strong because trust has been broken. I think all the units involved want is transparency, honesty, and a fair shot to help right the wrongs.

BWright's picture
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Marckus, the kids and the

Marckus, the kids and the local dens keep the majority of the popcorn money. It pays for the kids activities and camp. I agree with Skippy, clean house at the top.

Ben Dare's picture

Council profit on popcorn is

Council profit on popcorn is almost equal to what the local units make, about 32% each....this is the big push by council...not purchasing popcorn, not supporting friends of scouting and instead making a donation to the local pack or trop will still help the boys but will put a hurt on the council. Don't punish the boys or the local volunteers!

candiceanne's picture

As a former webelos and boy

As a former webelos and boy scout leader in Abenaki District I hated subjected families to the mandatory begging session with Pine Tree Council begging for land donations and bequests and cash. We used to make our camp on Concord Pond available year round to the boys. I am so glad we didn't give it to the council, commit it in a life estate or anything else they would be looking to sell it instead of have it available for the boys. And this affidavit thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find out it is saying the heirs surrender their claim and relinquish it to the council so the council can get around the terms. That building in Portland should never have been built. I would much prefer to make a cash donation to the local troop than buy pop corn or anything else where any part may go to Pine Tree Council. I bet the council beggars aren't getting a very good reception anywhere.

Marckus's picture

No more overpriced popcorn

No more overpriced popcorn for me.

BWright's picture
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Instead of raping Camp

Instead of raping Camp Gustin, then selling it, where plenty of kids gain confidence and self esteem, a place where friendships are made, why don't the scouts sell the Taj Mahal in Portland. The council can pay the debt and get a smaller more modest building. Let us also look at some of the salaries that people draw on the backs of the children.

skippy's picture
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It is time for local scout

It is time for local scout leaders from the entire State to open their eyes and take over command of scouting n Maine and oust the scoundrels currently running the program. Certainly the powers that be can be ousted and are not divinely appointed for life.

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