LEWISTON — The presumptive speaker of the state House of Representatives is facing renewed scrutiny for overbilling state and federal agencies more than $1.6 million for Medicaid reimbursements.
About $1.2 million of that sum remains unpaid and unrecoverable, according to the state.
Rep. Robert Nutting, R-Oakland, last week was elected by a Republican caucus to lead the new GOP majority in the next legislative session, all but ensuring that he'll become the first Republican to preside over the chamber in 36 years.
However, what was supposed to have been a career achievement for the five-term legislator has become mired in questions about Nutting's business practices at True's Pharmacy. In 2003, Nutting closed the business after a settlement ordered him to repay $1.6 million for overcharging the state in Medicaid reimbursements for shipments of adult diapers, latex gloves and bed liners.
The case received significant media attention between 2002 and 2004, as the Maine Department of Health and Human Services originally alleged that Nutting, at the time a sitting legislator, defrauded the state for $3.6 million over five years. A subsequent investigation and settlement lowered the figure.
Nutting consistently countered that the issue stemmed from misinterpreting the state's prescribed reimbursement formula.
On Wednesday, Nutting agreed to a series of interviews with media outlets to explain the issue, which he claimed was largely driven by "confusing regulations" enforced by DHHS and other state departments that hurt Maine's small businesses.
"This is what we're working on," said Nutting, a reference to the new Republican majority's vow to dial back rules they say are strangling economic growth.
Nutting also contends that the state's vigorous pursuit of the case forced him to close his business and liquidate its assets after True's Pharmacy paid back just more than $433,000, 26 percent of the settlement.
"When an honest company, an honest business, an honest individual makes a mistake, instead of working through the problem ... instead of collecting more money back, (the state) just takes out a hammer when it's not necessary," he said.
According to documents obtained from DHHS through a Freedom of Access request, Nutting repaid $433,188 of the settlement. Shortly after filing a lawsuit to contest the sum, True's Pharmacy declared bankruptcy, forcing the Department of Health and Human Services and Medicaid to eat the remaining $1.2 million.
True filed Chapter 7 rather than Chapter 11. The distinction is significant because Chapter 11 would have allowed Nutting to hold off True's creditors and delay liquidation while he attempted to repay the balance of the settlement.
Asked why True's Pharmacy filed Chapter 7 instead of Chapter 11, Nutting said Wednesday that he didn't know the particular ramifications of either filing. He said he acted on the advice of his lawyers and that the state urged him to file for bankruptcy.
"They were anxious to get their money," Nutting said, adding that the settlement schedule forced him to shutter the business and file for bankruptcy.
Press accounts from the time indicate that Nutting's team of lawyers in 2004 filed a countersuit to reduce the final settlement amount. However, shortly thereafter, True's Pharmacy dropped the suit and filed Chapter 7.
Nutting initially said he didn't recall the countersuit to reduce the settlement. However, when read a press account from that period, he said his decision to file Chapter 7 came at the state's suggestion.
"They wouldn't allow us a long enough period to pay the money back," he said.
Bankruptcy files showed that True's sold off its assets — a van, computers, tables and even soda fountain stools — for $128,000.
That amount, plus other assets, left True's with $189,882 in proceeds to go to the state.
The $433,000 amount was the result of the liquidation, plus the state's decision to choke off True's Medicaid reimbursements during the investigation.
Nutting said he found no contradiction between his new role as leader of the House, which oversees programs such as MaineCare, and his unpaid debt.
He said the errors he made were “unintentional” and that the overpayments did not make him wealthy.
Lance Dutson, communications director for the Maine Republican Party, said Nutting pumped the $1.6 million back into business operations. Dutson said the company didn't expand, nor did Nutting use the money for personal gain.
"It's not like there's a house in Costa Rica, or something," Dutson said.
Nutting said he paid his three lawyers "over six figures" during the case. He couldn't give a specific amount.
The 2004 final decision on the case said True's Pharmacy didn't keep accurate records for an extended period, making it difficult for auditors to determine exactly how much he overcharged the state.
Nutting denied that claim, saying 96 percent of the documents the pharmacy provided were verifiable by state standards. He also refuted early charges that his employees had destroyed records to thwart the investigation.
Nutting said early accusations withered once the public understood that he'd made "an honest mistake."
"When this first came out, the stories said things like 'fraud', 'deceit' and 'bilked' and those sorts of things," he said. "Over the timeline you saw the dollar amount come down ... those words disappeared. It became much more about an honest mistake."
Press accounts from the period showed Nutting garnering support from Oakland residents, doctors and party members. During a hearing process that extended into August 2003, a Waterville Sentinel story detailed a rally at the State House in which supporters urged the state to halt the investigation. Some attendees carried signs that read, "If the diaper fits, you must acquit," and, "Stop the insanity."
Later that summer, Nutting closed True's Pharmacy and laid off its 23 employees.
In 2004, the state filed its final report, saying Nutting owed $1.6 million. An April 2004 Waterville Sentinel story quoted Nutting as saying, "There's no hope that True's will be able to repay anywhere near that. There's no source of income. We will file for bankruptcy at some point. The state will get whatever assets they will get."
Four months later, True's dropped its countersuit and filed for Chapter 7.
Nutting was serving his third term in the Legislature at the time. He won a fourth term in November, edging out two challengers.
Nutting said Wednesday that voters' endorsement of him despite the high profile of the True's case showed that the community supported him.
"Since this occurred, since the people who know me the best in Oakland and Sidney have seen this play out in real time, they have elected me three consecutive occasions," he said. "I think that should tell the people who don't know me very well, that if you did know me very well, that this is an honest mistake."
Nutting said he still intends to seek the House speaker position.
"Not only do I have the support of the House Republican Caucus, I think you will see that I have the support of the House Democratic Caucus as well," he said.
John Christie of the Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting contributed to this report




I Watched Mr. Nutting...
On News Channel 8 (WMTW) last night (Thursday) give an interview...Boy you could tell how nervous he was...and all he did was offer up excuses...To the "regular" citizen of Maine...if you/we had done what Mr. Nutting has done..yes..charges would have been brought...He did say that he "Knew This Would Come Out...Eventually"....wow..admitting guilt..right on public TV...Thought I was watching an episode of "America's Most Wanted" for a minute there...
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That was pathetic, wasn't it?
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Time to resign. You ripped off the state.
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for the Republican party, fit right in unfortunately. Nothing a couple weeks in church will not fix, confession is a wonderful thing, and besides he is probably against abortion and gays and supports all members of the GOP. I am sure there are lots of people who support him as they are just like him and they are in ALL political parties. Just seems more blatant for a republican but still par for the course. May your gods help us all/ Pray for the rapture and we could have jobs because these thief's are not interested in jobs, or working people they are interested in Dubai where their peers are. FYI when they refer to the political parties. They are not kidding about the word PARTY. Drug tests them, it would put most of them on the streets and clean house while clearing their heads. Nutting probably ate and or sold 1 million worth of the drugs on the street that is why he cannot account for the money and the people who bought the drugs are his supporters. Yes this is sarcasm what do you expect from a dumb clamma? They let anyone write here and it feels good sometime.
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for the Republican party, fit right in unfortunately. Nothing a couple weeks in church will not fix, confession is a wonderful thing, and besides he is probably against abortion and gays and supports all members of the GOP. Im sure there are lots of people who support him as they are just like him and they are in all political parties. Just seems more blatant for a republican but still par for the course. May your gods help us all/ Pray for the rapture and we could have jobs because these thiefs are not interested in jobs, or working people they are interested in Dubai where their peers are.
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Time to resign. You ripped off the state.
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Nutting belongs in a jail cell with his (Bubba) yanking on his beard!
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i'm thinking a cell block romance would be fitting
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You mean like, "C'mere, boy; Bubba gonnn make yewww, a star".
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...and I don't believe he has earned the respect the Speaker's position should garner. To put it succintly, I don't like the cut of this guy's jib.
I am deeply disappointed in this consideration, and can't help but wonder what the Republicans are thinking. Seriously, you folks are your own worst emeny...please reconsider.
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Come on....Really?....Your acting like a kid...it will just be a matter of time before you get banned again...and since you publically announced right here that you share (wink wink) a computor with someone else...the SJ can block the IP on the person's computor...thus making it so you can't "blog" and the other person can't comment or blog either...This is a part of the SJ to post one's opinion...be the bigger person here and don't buy into the negative comments that you may think are directed to you...Just saying...
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Good luck with THAT speech, Angels.
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As a conservative and citizen, I am appalled at this bone-headed choice for Speaker of the House in Augusta. This man should have resigned his office long ago, or been voted out of office when he last ran. Republicans, Shame On You!
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Once again, lacking in an intelligent argument the troll resorts to name calling and threats....glad to see somethings never change, have a great day.
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Good luck, man.
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as a conservative i totally agree with you on this Jon, he really should be out of there if not in jail.
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criminal. I've sent email to the Stage AG, and federal prosecutor suggesting he be charged with fraud.
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Who is the stage AG?
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probably a fake like most of the ones before them.
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about so-called "Welfare Queens?"
Meet the Emperor!!
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I recently remember commenting on a story about the women from South Portland who was arrested for defrauding the State of Maine 10,000....They showed her in an orange jump suit...in front of a judge...requesting bail...It was all over the news...Now...we have this guy....defrauding the state into the "3 digit" category and nothing is being done to him...by the State.....Does this make any sense?...I don't care if he's involved in State government or not...I don't care what he does...He committed a "crime"....big deal..he paid the state back "some" of the money...which is what is going to happen to the lady I am referring too...And she will probably do some jail time...but she will forever have a "criminal" record...And Mr. Nutting says he "can't" remember how much it was he paid his lawyers to basically "get him out of this".....An "honest" mistake?...Goody Goody Gum Drops...Are you kidding me?...Can this women from South Portland use the same excuse...and get away with it?...I think not...I wonder how many more "skeletons" are going to come out of the "closet" here with our newly elected Governor's Cabinet....
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While I agree that Nutting is a very bad choice and an embarrassment to the Republican party, I disagree with lumping all members of the cabinet in with that bad apple. Let's not go overboard and condemn the entire administration before it's even started.
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it all started with electing a known tax cheat as governor. It appears to be permeating throughout his entire administration. Fortunately they only have to weather the storm for another month and a half, afterwards they'll have the judiciary in their firm grasp, so they can plunder with wild abandon without any fear or accountability.
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Was he ever convicted?
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Point of order....Speaker of the House is part of the legislative arm, governor is part of the executive arm, thus he is not part of the administration. Lets try to stick with facts on this one okay? You'll see I agree he should not be speaker, but come on, keep it between the lines.
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They are all part of the same vast right wing wacko conspiracy. You know that, so take your point of order and point it......
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Ben, you allowed hime to provoke you into getting yourself canned. Gotta stay cool, man.
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This comment and the one below it were removed for violating our commenting policy. Ben, I have already warned you once and therefore I am banning your account for one week. You may reapply for membership on Nov. 26.
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There is no commenting policy, it has the backbone of a jellyfish and is waved like a flag when a "certain somebody" is offended and cries about it, and it changes about as often as people change their undies. Neither comment had anything vulgar in it or even a personal attack. Apparently humor or jokes aren't allowed in here, so i'll go put on my Russian military hat and start practicing my stiff legged march. Smarten up and have ONE policy for ALL.
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Well stated, LAS
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The Republicans have been praying for the day when they will be in charge. So what do they do when it happens; they appoint a crook to be Speaker of the House. GOOD MOVE! Your first opportunity to truly lead this state in another direction and you elect to do this! I can wait to see what's next. This is not your finest hour.
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The speaker is elected by the members of the house, he is not appointed..
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the speaker is appointed by the republicans in secret. The 'election is a mere formality' Only repbulicans can change this selection
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So you're saying that for the past 40 years the speaker has been appointed by the democrats in secret? Can't have it both ways little man...if you actually followed what happened last week you'd see there was a very public caucus beginning with 5 candidates and each round whittled down one more until it was down to two of which Nutting was elected. But thats at least 4 rounds of votes, as opposed to your unbased suggestion that it was done behind closed doors or secretly. The only thing dumber than your comment is the fact that two people were dumb enough to agree with you, or did you just use your other signons to vote again?
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Great to see virtual unanimity that this is an unwise choice for speaker. We should all email our local representative's office and the governor elect to request this man not be appointed as Speaker.
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Amazing the arrogance of businessman.
Had someone stolen $1.6 million dollars from his pharmacy, Nutting would be asking the state to prosecute them to the limits of the law. But let him defraud the state and well its just an "honest" mistake.
You can see this in his statement "...he didn't know the particular ramifications of either filing." Unbelieveable. He has a team of lawyers advising him on these filings. He's a legislator. Does he expect anyone to believe that he doesn't understand legislation. At least, his own statement disqualifies him from serving in the legislature.
But he compounds the lie by stating that he is working on changing state regulations so that the next time he defrauds the state he will not be personally responsible for his actions.
Nutting should be in jail.
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Kind of makes going after welfare fraud a little tricky. How can you claim to want to reform the system when one of your leaders is one the biggest frauds there is?
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Lil, remember last week the bloggers were complaining about what the poor people ate with their food cards. Go figure? Seems petty compaired to this? Where are all those people today? I'll keep looking.
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"Rep. Robert Nutting, R-Oakland, last week was elected by a Republican caucus to lead the new GOP majority in the next legislative session"
Uh oh. I guess the members of the caucus must have had something more important on their minds, distracting them from what they were supposed to be getting done at the time. But what could it have been?
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How does someone like Nutting, who appears to be easily confused for many years, going to be able to run the Maine House of Representatives? The Legislative session is very stressful for all involved. I just question his ability to be able to do a good job. I also question why he should influence the operation of these programs after he has so skillfully cheated these programs. Remember, that every time he defrauded the State and Feds, he negatively impacted the amount of money available to our needy citizens.
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This will be part of LePage's legacy now, unfortunately, not a good sign if he's even considerign re-election. Mr. Nutting shoudl have resigned as a legislator when it occured and there is no way he should be running the show in the House now. If its an honest mistake in how you interpretted the rules, than you pay back the money, don;t file bankruptcy having spent the money and act liek "oh well, bummer for the state, I got mine". As a Republican i cannot support this nomination.
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LePage screwed up on this one. As you stated, it'll probably define his term as governor.
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Wow, Ben Dare this is the second time in two days I agree with you, and I usually never do. You must be changing? Good for you. :)
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Check your spelling before you post.
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This is a brain fart on the part of the Republicans. Not a good PR move, and not a good start toward the credibilty that they are seeking.
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I thought the Republican mantra was that people were supposed to take "personal responsibility" for their shortcomings and troubles and not play the "blame game". I've never seen a bigger example of weasleness than this Nutting character. "It was the regulations fault, my lawyers told me to do it" etc. etc. Is this the best the tea party revolutionaries can offer? Good lord, I don't want to tread on them because of the nasty stuff I have to wipe off my shoes.
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Steal a million bucks - become Speaker of the House.
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America; land of opportunity. That's why all the immigrants want IN.
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"When an honest company, an honest business, an honest individual" true, but what about you?
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You are such a CONfused simpleton...are you a 2year old with the "CON" thing? Instead of making an "adult" argument you go the predictable juvenile route. Thanks for not disappointing....
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Typical example of a crook trying to spin the facts.
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My father had a great saying that rings true "show me a politician and l"ll show you a crook".
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Show me one who's lips are moving and I'll show you a liar.
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Wow! This guy is the slickest of slick. Claims that overcharging the government nearly $2 million for gloves, diapers and bed liners? That's enough of those items to outfit the whole state, awful lot for one little pharmacy isn't it?
And so he files bankruptcy chapter 7, asked about why he filed that way. "he didn't know the particular ramifications of either filing. He said he acted on the advice of his lawyers and that the state urged him to file for bankruptcy." In my opinion, either a liar or an idiot. That's like saying that you didn't know your wife was changing her state of residence, isn't it?
How about this for a good person to help lead the state in a period of financial crisis?
"True's Pharmacy didn't keep accurate records for an extended period, making it difficult for auditors to determine exactly how much he overcharged the state."
and lastly,
"Nutting said he found no contradiction between his new role as leader of the House, which oversees programs such as MaineCare, and his unpaid debt."
Wow, how stupid are we?
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what else will he and does he misinterpret ?
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If he claims the "mistakes" were made because of the confusing rules Maine has on business, why didn't anyone else with a pharmacy make the same mistakes and bill millions to the State? Only his pharmacy got all that money out of the State because of the so-called billing "mistakes". Hold onto your hats, there's more to come. So much for transparency, the Governor elect and Republicans chose him!
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And you can add to that list of businesses going belly up, and sticking the people with the tab, Prime Tanning in Hartland which owes the town $300,000 in back taxes. Who knows what kind of clean up will have to be done, and how much it will cost, when they close up.
Nutting is a prime example of the Republi-CON mentality. Slam the system with the one hand and over bill and steal from it with the other. To the people that elected Robert Nutting, this man stole from you, and all of the other taxpayers of Maine, and you reward him by re-electing him, and his cronies reward him by making him house speaker. Ah....Maine, the way life should be. Typical Republi-CON HYPOCRITES!
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"he claimed was largely driven by "confusing regulations" enforced by DHHS and other state departments that hurt Maine's small businesses."
This has to be the "spin of the century"!! Blame everything on the big, bad government.
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When you have a lot of money for lawyers like Lepage ,Nutting, and Charlie Rangel, you get to call these things "mistakes" .
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Yeah, they do; ask Pelosi, Reid, Rangel, and Geithner. They're pretty knowledgeable on the matter. Let's face it; they're ALL scoundrels. Republicans democrats, it doesn't really matter any more. No one is CLEAN. Sad situation.
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Of course it is and that is what we are in for the next 4 years. Businesses coming in and going belly up, expecting us, the taxpayers to pick up the tab for cleaning up their messes. How many superfund sites are there in Maine left over from failed businesses? Anyone? They will cheat us and leave us with the debt or clean-up. I remember Maine Oil Recovery in Buckfield, that left the town with the bill after it was bankrupt, then there is the one in Winthrop, and ............ Jack DeCoster would probably go that route if Turner ever went after him for the mess he has left on the Plains road in that town. Yep we are in for fun. Happy days are here again. Republicans are good at being evil on the environment and the taxpayers, and enriching themselves in the process just to walk away from the mess.
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