No government intervention

Government intervention in health care will mean higher taxes, worse and rationed care (except for members of Congress, who are exempt), and outrageous deficits for generations. If the Obama administration and Congress think Americans believe reform will be deficit-neutral, with costs borne by the rich, perhaps they will consider another line of work — hawking stuff on late-night television.

A good start to reform is to limit out-of-control lawsuits, which increase everyone's costs, by capping awards and assessing court costs on the losing party. Insurers also should be allowed to offer coverage in all states.

Everyone should be able to choose insurance they want and not forced to pay for unwanted coverage.

Insurance should be available for those who have been denied coverage due to pre-existing conditions, but at higher premiums to reflect the added costs of care (or perhaps be subsidized by the government where needed).

Private insurers cannot compete with government-run insurance because government has unlimited capital (from taxes) to offer lower rates than private insurers, giving them a great advantage. Government involvement in anything increases costs and decreases services.

Proponents cannot (or won't) explain how reform will only cost the rich. Repeating the same statements endlessly is no explanation. I want concrete proof how proponents expect "reform" to be deficit-neutral. Medicare savings will take place ... how? Recovering money from fraud and abuse? Unlikely.

Susan Longley, Norway

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Suzzsin's picture

Well, to everyone who's

Well, to everyone who's responded negatively to my opinion on the proposed federal government health care overhaul, it is only MY opinion--it doesn't make it right or wrong--it doesn't make me a liar, in need of therapy, or a right-wing batxxxx Fox-watching moron. Name calling really doesn't advance anyone's cause. In MY opinion, the current proposals and "explanations" advanced thus far just don't make sense--the costs and promises just do not compute. I do agree that reforms are necessary, but do not agree that the entire system needs complete dismantling as some of you suggest. People should certainly have a choice of health insurance--I chose an HMO because it is less expensive than Fee for Service or other plans, but it is MY choice; some people choose not to have any health insurance at all--that is their own choice. I understand that around 80% of the insured are satisfied with their insurance; I believe the issue that should be resolved is covering the uninsured citizens of our country and somehow providing coverage for pre-existing conditions. It's local governments who provide access to clean drinking water, fire and police protection--the federal government should not be involved in local decisions or decisions made between my local doctor and me.

Susan Longley, Norway

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How much do you make? Do

How much do you make? Do you realize training is provided for fire fighting unions by the government, oh no a union, police officers union sometimes do not cover the costs associated with some diseases how much do you make? Much of the training established by police protection is based off of international efforts and their training is provided by the federal government. Honestly did you get your information from the police officers training manual circa nineteen-forty-five? Federal funding also benefits the projects for bullet proof vests and hand guns as well as training in various tactical situations that is federally funded. Which the federal funding as an established product President Obama endorsed more bullet proof vests, training, and keeping police officers on the job in the worst gang crime area's.

Come back when you have your figures correct as for federal funding and established information. What you cite is beyond anything which is translated now into the law enforcement guide books. The federal government is involved oh, yes thank Bush for cutting back on bullet proof vests, such as the officer killed in Baltimore who promoted "Keep Talking" when his department was hard hit by budget cuts during the Bush administration. Of course federal funding went into getting those videos on the street! Keep pretending you are alright as the rest of us have to keep watching Miss. Longley and do yourself a favor federal funding also provides the fire fighters with emergency training, interacting with arson investigations, and specialists in that field. If there are more accurate numbers I'll research and find them Miss. Longley right now you are hardly worth the breath.

Joe Ziehm
Lewiston ME

There are two kinds of Republicans in this world moderate and conservative for so long I've picked the moderate that now it is time to consider the path less traveled.

deimos's picture
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Susan, don't worry what the

Susan, don't worry what the marxists say since they are always on the wrong side of history, keep speaking up for what you think is right. the arrogance of the left is exceeded only by their ignorance.

tron's picture

I'm not the one who has a

I'm not the one who has a picture of Leonid Brezhnev next to there name. And he is definitely to the right of middle America.

Jabba's picture
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The tenth amendment of the

The tenth amendment of the U.S. Constitution states, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Since the Constitution does not delegate health care to the United States, it is reserved to the states, or to the people.

Federal involvement in health care is unconstitutional. Why is any discussion needed beyond that?

Lil's picture
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If so, wouldn't Medicare

If so, wouldn't Medicare have been abolished long ago?
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Winston Churchill

Jabba's picture
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Medicare should never have

Medicare should never have happened and steps should be taken to abolish it now.

Lil's picture
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Sounds like you want to be

Sounds like you want to be the death panel of one.
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tron's picture

Is that your solution to

Is that your solution to Social Security solvency? Let millions of senior die because of inadequet medical care?

Jabba's picture
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tron, you and lil are both

tron, you and lil are both very dramatic. So much so, that it is actually difficult to have an intelligent conversation with you. So I won't bother any longer.

Lil's picture
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Birth certificates, death

Birth certificates, death panels, tenth amendment - there is no intelligence there.
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Winston Churchill

tron's picture

Because healthcare falls

Because healthcare falls under the commerce clause of the Constitution, and that is to be regulated by Congress. Next time actually read the Constitution, not just the parts Fox News reads to you at bedtime.

Jabba's picture
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Article I, Section 8, Clause

Article I, Section 8, Clause 3:
“ [The Congress shall have power] To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes; ”

Since healthcare does not involve commerce between nations or states or native American tribes, how can it possibly be covered by the commerce clause?

Based on their experiences with the government of England, the framers were distrustful of a powerful central government. Everything they did was to stop the federal government from having too much power. The federal government has usurped power from the states for decades and it's contrary to the intent of the founding fathers. Federal health care is just one more usurpation of that power.

To be clear, I think everyone deserves health care. I believe everyone has a right to health care. It's just not the federal governments job to do it.

tron's picture

Nice quoting, now if only

Nice quoting, now if only you understood what you quoted, mainly, ..."and among the several states" Since health care easily transcends states borders, in either procurement or payment, the Congress has the duty to regulate it.

Jabba's picture
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Commerce among the several

Commerce among the several states is not the same as interstate commerce.

tron's picture

Unfortunately for you,

Unfortunately for you, people much smarter than you disagree with you, including the Supreme Court of the United States.

Scotty-O's picture

You know whats really messed

You know whats really messed up? That they won't concentrate on fixing this economy so people can get back to work. Get the economy back on track, then lets talk about new spending.

Proudliberal's picture

Government run, or a hybrid

Government run, or a hybrid government/private run, health care system is how the rest of the industrialized world provides health care to it's citizens and they all do it at significant savings compared to us. Are you really worried about HMO CEOs and the financial hit they'll take once everyone is covered by either public or private means?
The stupidity of Republicans and particular Senator Snowe on this issue has been breathtaking. Very simply put we need to break the insurance companies, who ration care and choice through price, and give power back to doctors and patients where it belongs.
All you fox watching morons who think government sponsored healthcare is socialist need to make a pledge to not use Medicare, accept Social Security payments or utilize the Veterans administration since in your worldview those are all socialist programs as well.

Pirate's picture
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"Fox watching morons"? You

"Fox watching morons"? You &*%$#@ libmos can't open your mouths or whack a keyboard without name calling can you?

Lil's picture
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"Government involvement in

"Government involvement in anything increases costs and decreases services." A fine example would be the public water supply systems. We should all water our gardens and flush our toilets with Aquafina. Maybe all fire departments should be privatized, and they could ask for your credit card before they put out your house with Poland Spring (or Sam's Choice for trailers).
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"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill

Lil's picture
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What do you call it when the

What do you call it when the insurance company tells you which doctors you can see, and which treatments they'll cover, who and how much they'll pay? Sounds like rationing to me.
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"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill

Pirate's picture
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Some might see it as cost

Some might see it as cost control. But a lib wouldn't understand that concept.

tron's picture

No, that's patient control,

No, that's patient control, kill off the ones that cost the most money.

Govt2Big's picture
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Susan nailed it with that

Susan nailed it with that letter, but it's unfortunate the liberals just don't get it... and that ACORN seems determined to ruin our USA.

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Four hundred million missing

Four hundred million missing from the accounts at DieBold after the loss of McCain and ZDNet had reported and broken that story as well remember DieBold the company which put millions in the Bush accounts? It's people like that who scare me that information they try to do a clean sweep with in their minds. I'm sorry and apologize that you cannot answer the HMO debate on the previous question.

Joe Ziehm
Lewiston ME

There are two kinds of Republicans in this world moderate and conservative for so long I've picked the moderate that now it is time to consider the path less traveled.

Lil's picture
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She did nail it. She got all

She did nail it. She got all the right wing talking points down, and did it probably with a straight face. Too bad she has such a tenuous grip on reality. Maybe she could get some of that rationed mental health care. What causes seemingly rational people to believe the most batsh*t insane right wing talking points?
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"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill

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Reform the law suit system

Reform the law suit system so if an HMO denies the chemotherapy and drug treatment of a teenager they are not at fault? All of you get scared and you have a right to and making that stance that others deserve to die while you prosper that creates the Sarah Palin death panel correct? Except, this time its a reform toward disabling the HMO who denies care and while you debate that the talking points are in circumventing all those who try to push away from corruption in the system. Then you go one to exude confidence in a broken system is your role in working with an insurance company? Pardon the rudeness and straight forwardness of the questions but it appears that you endorse a system which would also be viable if you were invested into it correct?

So in reverse engineering the false assumptions of the GOP is to instate a fear of anything that would prosper others such as saving the teenager. I have no fear of those who create the lying points to prosper themselves.

Joe Ziehm
Lewiston ME

There are two kinds of Republicans in this world moderate and conservative for so long I've picked the moderate that now it is time to consider the path less traveled.

tron's picture

Repeating the same lies over

Repeating the same lies over and over, Susan, will never make them true. Congress is not exempting itself, it would merely have the right to change plans just like you do. No one is going to force you to buy the federal program over your current one. Period. Freedom to choose, only now there would be a choice and for some that will be only one choice, but it's alot better than having none. So rant all you want, just stop with the lies.

Pirate's picture
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The parrot wants to know,

The parrot wants to know, "if repeating the same lies over and over will never make them true", why do the liberals keep doing it?

tron's picture

Tell your parrot to prove

Tell your parrot to prove it. It appears it is the only intelligent one of the two of you, unfortunately it's listening to you.

Pirate's picture
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The Pirate finds your

The Pirate finds your comment insulting and offensive and, quite worthy of having you walk the plank if not for the lack of wood to build one. Also, you overestimate the parrot; he gets most of his crap from listening to AirAmerica while I'm at work.
You should learn to be a little nicer to people you don't even know. Typical liberal behavior; if anyone disagrees with you, call them names.
AARRGH!!!

GET OVER HERE, YOU STUPID PARROT---YOU'RE GROUNDED

tron's picture

I find the cowardly way you

I find the cowardly way you talk through your parrot demeaning to the intelligence of most people here, even some of the Republicans. And you insult people in every post you make.

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