No to compromise

It is vital that the public be able to distinguish between the parties and what they stand for. President Barack Obama's proposed compromise blurs the issues for an electorate that is distracted and confused.

Let it be clear that the Republican Party unalterably supports the rich.

Obama should let the tax cuts expire and rally the people against the bullying tactics of the Republican Party.

Hubert Kauffman, Oxford

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momof4's picture

It's only the beginning

of buyers remorse for the dems. Obama's gonna cave on many things in the future.

Pirate's picture
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He's like one of those twirly

He's like one of those twirly wheels people put in their yards. Whichever way the wind blows, they go.

VoiceOreason's picture

Yeah... let the tax cuts

Yeah... let the tax cuts expire and watch the 'recession' morph into the greatest depression in the history of the country. That'll show those bullying Republicans !

Pirate's picture
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Even the Hoopster is

Even the Hoopster is predicting a double dip recession if the Bush tax cuts are not extended. But then, he's displayed zero knowledge of anything that pertains to economics, so why should we think he's correct on this one?

Pirate's picture
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Hey, Hubert: Have you ever

Hey, Hubert: Have you ever held a job lately where your paycheck was signed by someone making $38,000 a year? (Sound of crickets).....didn't think so.

Frostproof's picture
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You gotta love that phrase.

Hubert Kauffman: ... an electorate that is distracted and confused.

They must be because, instead of continuing to vote for the entitled class of liberal Democrats, they overturned the House in DC and everything in Augusta. We must get rid of those pesky elections! They just cause distraction and confusion.

The real bullying starts in January.

Gil's picture

Let it be clear

Hubert has a bad case of rectal cranial inversion. Because the Republicans are against raising taxes on ANYBODY that means they are only for the rich? Make no mistake Hubert, this isn't a tax cut we're talking about. If the Bush cuts expire, then we will see the tax rates of EVEYONE go up, way up. It's a game to the libs who dangle the class warfare bait in front of the naive. The evil rich that you so desperately want to rob are the ones footing the bill right now. Who do you think actually creates the jobs? Who do you think pays the largest portion of the taxes already? Your messiah showed his socialistic tendencies when he uttered the phrase "Now, what we’re doing, I want to be clear, we’re not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that's fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you've made enough money." Now libs like Hubert think that those who make way more than they do have made enough and they need to have it confiscated by the feds, and redistributed to them.

Ed McCaffrey's picture
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I don't know about you

but I personally can't afford to see my income taxes jump even $1000.00 per year. That's Almost $100.00 per month that's gone from my wallet and that could be used to support my family. I don't know about you, but I work for a living and don't get govt. handouts and I'm about as taxed as I can stand to be right now.
If the taxes are going to be cut for some, they should be cut for all. The rich people worked to earn their money just like I did. If you want real reform, take a look at the tax code.
Make it a flat income tax across the board. Do the same for inheritance taxes, same tax for everyone. Make everyone, even those with private retirement funds, pay into social security and make it a law that only people who have paid into the medicare/caid system are allowed to collect unless you were born with a disability that precludes you from working in any position. If you get hurt on the job, it's the responsibility of workers comp to take care of you. If you can't live on that then it's time to change your life style.
People took care of their own years ago, before there was SSI and those families may not have had much, but they had family.
To some degree, the Republicans have the right of it. The less gov interference in my life the better. On the flip side of the coin, the Dems have a point too , the gov should help those TRULY in need.
Obama making deals is what a real President needs to do. Find a half way point that the whiners and hypocrites in Congress and the Senate of both parties can meet at, and go from there. He's not perfect. He gave in on some things to get others. It's called compromise and he seems to be getting better at it. He might prove me wrong yet.
As far as distinguishing between the parties, I gave up a long time ago. All of them are hypocrites and none of them do what the people who put them in power want them to do. They're all the same no matter what party they claim to represent. They're there for the money and the hope of a lucrative private sector job when they are termed out.

Pirate's picture
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"on the flip side of the

"on the flip side of the coin, the Dems have a point too, the gov should help those TRULY in need." That's the problem Ed. The dems have made so many marginally needy people eligible for benefits that the line between "needy" and "TRULY needy" has become blurred beyond recognition. Thus, anybody with a sob story is eligible for some sort of benefits from the govt.,paid for by you, me and the rest of the saps who pay taxes, thanks to the dems.

Ed McCaffrey's picture
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Pirate, that's my point

Sob stories should be thrown out. If you were born deaf, dumb and blind then you're deserving of help. Born mentally disabled to the point where you can't take care of your own bodily functions, you deserve help. If you're a drunk, or your back hurts, or you get nervous in crowds, and any number of other lame excuses, you shouldn't get free money. There is something out there that you can do to earn that check, insurance, and food stamps that you get from the government every month.
I have just had a wonderful idea!!! Train the halt and lame to do the work that the govt. workers do and they can earn their monthlies that way!!! It would cut down on govt. spending by having necessary work done by people that are already getting paid for doing nothing.

Woody's picture
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Do what you will with SS...

just give me the money back I paid in for over 50 years.

Pirate's picture
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Woody: You and the rest of us

Woody: You and the rest of us who've been paying into SSI for decades will be lucky to draw out half of what we put in because liberal politicians, a.k.a. democRATS have turned SSI into their own private welfare fund for people who've never even paid a dime into it.

tron's picture

Hey parrot, tell your idiot

Hey parrot, tell your idiot that NOBODY has paid into SSI, ever. It is totally paid for by the government, so nobody will be able to 'withdraw' from it. Find someone with a brain to tend to your needs, I'm worried about your safety.

Pirate's picture
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Since you've probably never

Since you've probably never held a paying job in your life,Troll, how would you be expected to know that Social Security tax is taken from paychecks at each pay period? If you'd ever collected a paycheck from WORKING, you'd probably know that. Once again, you have entered the arena of matching wits and have shown up unarmed. You pitiful name calling twit.

tron's picture

You're so stupid, making up

You're so stupid, making up things I've supposedly said and then attacking me for it. I NEVER said that Social Security tax wasn't taken from paychecks, so I don't know where you got that from. I worked probably longer that you've been alive, gauging by the mental age you seem to possess. So tell the bird you need more medication, since you're clearly off your rocker!

Pirate's picture
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Read your own post of

Read your own post of 12-13-10, 3:39 pm...."no one has ever paid into SSI, the government pays for all of it". So, Bluto, consider reading your own trash before you go attacking other people. You REALLY are out of control.

tron's picture

And I stand by my response,

And I stand by my response, the SSI program is totally funded by the government, there is NO individual contribution into the system. Perhaps you should learn the facts BEFORE spouting off, although I understand your limited capacity to absorb FACTS!

Pirate's picture
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Oh, I see, you're playing

Oh, I see, you're playing semantics with the SSI vs. Social Security thing. That's true, that SSI program you're on is totally govt. funded and the recipients are not required to have ever paid anything into Social Security. That's why those who pay into Social Security consider the SSI, part the govt's welfare program. And the funding? They "borrow" it from the Social Security side of the ledger, never to be paid back, of course. SSI is just another name for being on the dole for far too many Americans who have never earned the right to collect from it.
For the record, my limited capacity to absorb facts, is second only to your inability to put two rational thoughts together without insulting someone. On a daily basis, you redefine the term, "offensive". But, it's a free country and you have the first amendment right to express yourself in any way you choose. It's a pity your material consistently has the substance of raw sewage.

ConservaMom's picture

Ok tron. SSI is TOTALLY

Ok tron. SSI is TOTALLY funded by the Government. Where does the Government get their money? Simple question. And your answer is ... ???

momof4's picture

Hey tron:

You are partly right, however, where do you suppose the government gets it's money? stay safe.

armymom's picture

What excuse does Obama have for desimating Social Security?

Even more disturbing than another President Obama breaking another promise he made to those who voted for him in seeing to it that the "Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich" lapsed and seeing too it the wealthy paid their share is the news that President Obama is seeking to cut Social Security Taxes threatening the very solvancy of this mainstay of American retired life for America's working poor and middle class. If you are anything like myself, you have been paying into the Social Security Trust for many years with the expectation that at some point after age 62, you too would be able to retire and begin drawing on all those deposits you and your employers have been making on into your account. In my case, I began contributing to my Social Security retirement account at the age of 14 and have continued to faithfully contribute week after week along with my employers for more than 30 years. Cutting Social Security Taxes makes absolutely no sense at all. Social Security collections are supposed to be kept seperate from general revenues going directly into the Social Security Trust Fund and Social Security payments come from the Social Security Trust so neither has any effect on the National Debt. Cutting deposits will have a devastating effect on the ability to make these payments in the future however when all the baby boomers and post baby boomers retire and begin to collect and the fund is insolvant from insufficient deposits having been made as the result of these cuts. What then? Obama will be long gone, but we will be left holding the bag forced into the terrible postion of choosing, cutting payments further below driving retirees further blow the poverty level, postponing elligibility age, trying to make up for shortfalls from the general fund with whopping tax increases, or killing social security all together; in all likelihood it will be a combination of these terrible options. I would rather see my income taxes decline further with a portion applied to an increase in Social Security deposits to better fund Social Security and a protion left in my take home pay if it is truly Obama's intent for me to take home more of my paycheck. Cutting income taxes and cut spending now to prevent further growth of the national debt while increaseing Social Security Taxes is fiscally responsible where as Obama has devised the perfect system for creating debt with his cuts in the Social Security Tax.

Pirate's picture
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That cut in Social Security

That cut in Social Security taxes for 2011 will ostensibly put $1000 into the hands of middle class tax payers. The downside is that the same $1000 will not be available in benefits when the workers retire. Plus, I believe the SJ stated that the govt. will borrow something like $117 billion to make the SSI rate cut happen. Sort of like getting $1000 cash advance on your Mastercard so you can make two $500 payments on your Visa card.
Cutting SSI tax rates now is just another ill disguised attempt by the Hoopster to buy more votes down the road.

Ed McCaffrey's picture
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I gave up on the idea

of getting a social security check a long time ago. I too have paid into the system for better than 30 years and realized about 20 of them ago that social security would be insolvent long before I ever retired. Even if it wasn't, it wouldn't be enough to live on. That's what they have these new things called retirement plans for. Put a little extra into them and it will make up for the missing SS money when you finally can retire.
Also, the idea of retiring at 62 is foolish. All this complaining about raising the retirement age to 69 is foolish too. That proposed increase would take place over the next 65 (read SIXTY FIVE) years. I won't be alive then and neither will you. I know that I won't be able to retire until I'm at least 70 now (without winning the lottery) and I knew that before the world financial system went bottoms up.
I'd rather have more money in my pocket right now to pay my bills than worry about a program that probably won't be there when I retire anyways. If it is there, great. If it isn't, so be it. Ill get by, I always have.
The way I see it is that I have another 20 years to work. If the world is still around then, and we still have a govt. that is functional to the point of providing social security, I'll sign up. Until then, I'll keep paying in so that my parents can collect and so that those people collecting Govt. welfare checks can eat better than me and be provided with insurance and low cost housing and food. See, I'm really not an ogre.
Oh, by the way, read my other post about the tax cuts. I'm sure you'll like that one too.

tron's picture

That would be the smart way

That would be the smart way to demonstrate to the people, the selfishness of the republican party.

ClamenstineDigginBay's picture

They

Cannot hear you.... Their blinders cover their ears as well.

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