AUGUSTA — Gov. Paul LePage's decision Thursday to allow state agencies to ask people about their immigration status likely will be the first step in his plan to overhaul Maine's welfare system.
A spokesman for LePage said the governor's executive order was meant to send a message that Maine would no longer be a "sanctuary state" for people seeking a driver's license or social services.
But advocate groups for low-income individuals expect the move is a precursor to Republican efforts to impose residency duration requirements on certain welfare programs, particularly General Assistance, which disburses vouchers to qualifying families for critical living expenses, such as utilities and food.
General Assistance recipients are already required to prove they're living in Maine. However, widespread concerns that needy people are coming to Maine to take advantage of its welfare programs have prompted Republican lawmakers to introduce legislation that would require people to live here for a determined period before receiving assistance.
Such efforts were defeated when Democrats controlled the Legislature, amid concerns about violating the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment, an argument that's been previously upheld in the U.S. Supreme Court.
Now, with LePage vowing to restructure the welfare system, a Republican majority in the State House and a Republican attorney general, duration residency requirements could be forthcoming.
The stage has already been set by LePage.
Dan Demeritt, LePage's communications director, indicated Thursday that Maine social service recipients should focus on "people who live here and are established here."
Demeritt acknowledged that programs such as Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and Medicaid are mostly administered by the federal government and may not allow a residency requirement.
However, Republicans have traditionally focused on General Assistance, which is managed by the state.
Demeritt said LePage and other Republican lawmakers believe that Maine's "generous" welfare benefits made the state a magnet for needy people.
"We need to make sure we do everything we can at the state level to make sure we’re focusing on, and preventing to the extent that we can, people coming to Maine just because of its welfare programs," Demeritt said.
Ana Hicks, a senior policy adviser for Maine Equal Justice Partners, said LePage's decision was political, noting the vigorous cheers the governor received during his inauguration speech when he told supporters that public assistance had to go to Maine residents.
"It was very upsetting," she said. "This has been an issue we’ve been dealing with for years now, this myth that people are moving into Maine for generous benefits when we can show that that’s just not happening."
According to data from the state's Department of Health and Human Services, over five years, five times as many benefit recipients left Maine each month compared to the number of people who moved here and received assistance.
In 2006, DHHS reported that less than 1 percent of all recipients came from another state. And, about one-third were returning home, not migrating here.
The data also attempts to dispel other widely held beliefs. Despite perceptions that welfare recipients are discouraged from holding jobs because they run the risk of losing public assistance, DHHS said Maine has the most working welfare recipients of any state in New England.
And, in order to get temporary assistance, DHHS says all applicants must be residents or legal immigrants.
Hicks said that LePage's vow to make sure aid recipients are residents "pretty much happens right now."
But Republicans and LePage say the state has become a haven for individuals seeking richer benefits, and that the system is wrought with fraud.
Phil Nadeau, assistant city administrator of Lewiston, said it would be naive to believe that some people are not gaming the system. However, he said, "to say that people are coming here from out of state, and to say that there’s hard data on that, well, I just don’t think there is."
Carol Monterio, of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services office in Boston, said she was unaware of widespread fraud in the federal temporary assistance program.
"I personally haven't seen it or heard of it," she said.
However, a report by the conservative think tank Maine Heritage Policy Center recently stated that Maine is No. 1 in welfare dependency, claiming that one in three Mainers is on some form of public assistance.
The report was widely criticized by Democrats and Brenda Harvey, Gov. John Baldacci's DHHS commissioner, who called it misleading and politically motivated.
The policy center bills itself as a nonpartisan group. Its executive director, Tarren Bragdon, helped lead LePage's transition effort and Heritage Policy Center analyst Steven Bowen was recently named one of the governor's senior policy advisers, stirring Democratic claims that the group is a political organization cloaked as a research center.
LePage and Republican legislative candidates on the campaign trail frequently cited facts in the center's welfare study. That prompted claims from Democrats and left-leaning organizations like the Maine Center for Economic Policy that Bragdon's group was manipulating its research.
Bragdon previously countered that the center's welfare study began more than a year before the campaign season. He has repeatedly said the center does not endorse candidates or get involved in elections.
Christopher St. John, executive director of the Center for Economic Policy, said Thursday that the conservative group "deliberately misled" Mainers and lawmakers with its welfare dependency claim by lumping in Medicaid recipients with TANF and General Assistance, "totally different programs with different purposes."
St. John also noted that Maine has the lowest TANF benefits in New England.
He said, "Is it logical that people would flock from Massachusetts with higher welfare benefits to Maine with lower welfare benefits? No, that doesn’t make any sense."
Still, it's clear LePage and Republicans are preparing to unveil major welfare overhaul initiatives this legislative session.
LePage's inaugural speech set the tone. During his address, he told the story of resident Jennifer Cloukey, a single mother and welfare recipient who managed to earn a degree and is in the process of getting off the system.
LePage said he intended to make Cloukey's story more common.
"There are a lot of Jennifer Cloukeys in Maine," he said.
Said Demeritt, "That’s the goal we have to have for everybody who’s in the system. People who are permanently (in need), we obviously need to accommodate them. But we have to find new ways to get the others back to independent status."
St. John said he supported LePage's goal to guide aid recipients to self-sufficiency. He called Cloukey a "great story," and evidence that the state's assistance programs were working as they were designed to work.
"The current programs do a better job than the governor acknowledged," St. John said.

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Shows up AFTER I post that he didn't...LOL...only addressed a small portion of the information requested...but hey..he wouldn't want to "think" he let down a challenge...And "Duchess" is not my name..DAN....and BTW...Ms. Cloukey did not go into all the information, that YOU revealed, with any reporter I saw...Your defense didn't work on this one...but it's a new day isn't it?
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Well I don't know if she went into all the information on FOX News?, duchess, but that's how I obtained all my information on her, from the various news interviews I saw. And I have no idea what your REAL name is, since you haven't been verified, but if you keep impersonating the Duchess of York, I'll keep calling you duchess. The rest of the 'information' you requested have NOTHING to do with the article, so I didn't provide it. BTW, why did you want to know all that anyway, writing a book? And the reason I didn't answer you ASAP is because my Internet service was down for a day. Don't believe me, look at my posting times.
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I called "Tron" out on the carpet...and he failed to show up....No big surprise there...
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I am astonished. I am wondering why Mr Mistler would write this? I understand Gov Lepage wants to correct a system that is really very cruel towards those who really do want to be responsible for themselves. If a mom of four, in school, reaches a certain income level on the "way out" of dependency, is immediately CUT OFF from help at a specific income level , rather than a gradual decrease in benefits that supports her. So, in the current system, if she works hard, at a certain income level (not enough) will be forced back into the system, because the help is denied her....on her way out of it. CRAZY. I think the Gov's approach is right. But, this is NOT mentioned in this article. What is Mr St John's motive behind his words? The goal is to get as many people independent, self reliant, as we can. The body of this article seems to be a small denigration of what I understand Gov LePage would like to accomplish. But the denigration is insidous, and will be constant like rust.
Anyway, if someone from away, moves here, establishes residency (a coupla days), to feed off of our generosity. If it is ONLY one, then that is one too many. That money could go towards one of ours. To say that there is this MASSIVE migration of welfare people to Maine is silly, to say that we are deliberately denying the poor some kind of a life is equally as silly. We are saying the system, the way Mr St John defends it, is CRUEL and self defeating.
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is one of 18 children who was raised on welfare, but that's okay! Yes. They had the correct skin color and were from a country that is mainly white. See? (Did Momma LePage ever use birth control? Nope! She just kept having children because the state was paying for them!)
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hmmm yeah, he had a lot of control over what his parents did right? some welfare system considering he was homeless at 11 but dont let the facts get in the way of your rant. typical liberal tool.
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If Canada enforced its illegal immigration laws vigorously, LePage would have been arrested and sent to prison because he wasn't a Canadian citizen when he went to Canada to avoid the Vietnam war. This is Republican hypocrasy at its finest.
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What a success story, able to stay home, collect welfare while I work and support her so she can become a nurse. Meanwhile, I have been working extra hours, holidays, missing birthdays and years later......still have the same job, trying to support my family. Now that she is a nurse, I want to quit and have her pay for me..........someone ask her to return the money since she finally made it and along those lines, why don't we all quit our jobs until the right one comes along.. THATS A SUCCESS STORY?? Give me a break!
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Fortunately most people feel good about helping others when they are down. Most normal people actually want others to succede and they are willing to pitch in to make that happen.
Then there are those selfish, stingy folks that wouldn't help his neighbor with a bologna sandwich if they lost their job and couldn't feed himself.
Bitterness will eat alive from the inside.
Besides, if this woman had never existed and didn't get help for 7 years (or whatever), your taxes would not have changed one bit. If I was you I wouldn't lose any sleep worrying about how you paid for her welfare and schooling......because you didn't. She hasn't costed you even one dime out of your personal pocket.
Get over yourself
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there ought to be a work requirement to receive any form of taxpayer funded assistance. there's plenty of municipal work that could be done (general cleanup) that doesnt get done because nobody wants to do it and towns dont have the funds. Unless you can prove that you are physically unable to work, I'm sure we can find trash bags and brooms for you. Oh, wait, we cant do that, it would be politically incorrect to ask someone to do something so demeaning as pick up trash in order to receive their handout.
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The public, news organizations, and the Governors office use the term “welfare” too liberally, and imprecisely. Hopefully we all will start to discuss specific programs, which are believed problematic so that they can be reviewed, and if needed, improved. Working in behavioral health for many years, I believe it imperative that we help Mainers on their pathway to recovery from whatever vicissitude of life they encounter – this is what makes our society great.
However, as a state, we have not had a lot of public discourse about our values and what we wish to accomplish with the multitude of public programs we offer, including whether the programs are actually effective and indeed improve peoples lives. While some do, certainly other likely do not.
What is welfare? There are many programs which are federal, state, local or some combination of all, which use public money to help those in need. I think it more helpful to discuss the merits of specific programs and not generalities. While it possible to change state or locally funded programs (through the Legislative process) such as General Assistance, it is not possible to do so with federally funded programs, except through acts of Congress.
An example of something we can not change, is a state may not require residency for Medicaid aka MaineCare, this is within Title XIX of the Social Security Act, though with the proper waivers Maine can do other things such as change the Co-pay requirement, qualifications for services - so long as they are applied across the board, and adjust the Protected Income Level (Maine has a high PIL of $315/mo) of MaineCare beneficiaries, this is the amount people who are over income but qualify medically must “spend down” to. Maine could even; possibly, opt out of the Medicaid program, though risky, it is an option.
Some things which we may want to look at, and consider changing is our states General Assistance statute, and how the rules are promulgated and how Maine citizens experience (or not) assistance.
For example, we might want the Legislature to change the state statues that there is currently no residency requirement for GA, nor is there a requirement for the municipality to check an applicants immigration status. We may want to amend the statute to allow for time limitations and residency.
http://www.maine.gov/dhhs/OIAS/services/general-assistance/index.html
While there is a work requirement under GA, including working for the municipality, the “Just cause” for failure to meet work requirements may be so broad that many may benefit from remaining disabled, etc. We may want to add, that along with a person seeking work, or attending educational or job preparation; that they should be active in a physical, behavioral rehabilitation program.
http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/statutes/22/title22ch1161sec0.html
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Who the h@ll do you think you are "digging" up information about how long Ms. Cloukey has been on welfare and then posting it here for all to see under a story that talks about her "success"...You know Tron, I have defended you several times but I have to take issue with this..People have called YOU out here for being on disability...yet I have never seen anyone "divulge" what your personal "disability" is...This information you provided about Ms. Cloukey is personal..I don't care where you got it...She is a success...She was a battered woman...with 4 children to raise ON HER OWN, yet she took the TIME to take advantage of what was offered her and got an EDUCATION...Do you care TRON to say what your "disability" is?...Are you bound to a wheelchair all day making it impossible for YOU to do any kind of JOB at all...Come on Tron..your so quick to strike out at someone else...Lets hear your story...Or maybe someone reading this knows Tron's story and would care to share it with all of us that are posting on THIS story...To be honest with you Tron...I lost all respect for you the day you posted you had to leave b/c you had to go to church...Laughable at best...and I normally don't post a post like this..but you have really crossed the line in my book on this one....and please..don't respond by saying I must be on the Welfare Payroll...b/c I'm NOT...Have worked the same job for 21 years...all while raising 3 children...On another subject...if any of you really think that to be on welfare in Maine you have to work for it..that's a joke...There's always excuses for one not to participate in Aspire...Why people would turn a blind eye to "free training or schooling" by the state is beyond me....Some people are drug addicts going to methadone clinics to get there fix...some have to many children..yes, I know the state provides child care...but many "slip" through the cracks..and some are suffering from "depression" and take meds making them unable to work...the person writing the scripts sends the state a letter on behalf of the "client" and BOOM...no aspire for them...If there's an excuse to be had to get out of the Aspire Program...it's being used as I write this for someone to be sitting at home..watching there soaps...and collecting benefits...Makes me sick...but it's happening in Maine folks...don't kid yourself that everyone on welfare is doing what there supposed to be doing b/c there not...On Saturday, January 1 of this year I had to go to Walmart...I hate going to Walmart...but child needed some things to finish a school project...The place was packed...I'm thinking to myself..Hmm...it's New Years Day, why is this place packed with people...as I was looking over the supplies I noticed a lady next to me that looked as "irritated" as me...I said to her "What is going on here"..."I would have thought people would be home nursing hangovers today"...she looked at me and said "It's the 1st of the month"..I looked puzzled at this statement and she said back to me "You know..when the Welfare Checks comes out"...I gave her a half smile and thought to myself.."Wow"...and Welfare takes no breaks..not even for a holiday"...Took me forever to get out of there with 6 items...I'll know in the future on the 1st of the month NOT to frequent Walmart anyways...Sorry this post was so long...but TRON really got to me posting that information...Wonder if he'll take my challenge and let us all know why he doesn't work...probably not...he'll think for a while and then somehow tell me it's none of my business...or he'll not respond at all...it's the Tron's of the world that really make me sick..not so much the people on Welfare....
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Well duchess, you've gotten yourself all in a snit for nothing. I did NOT dig up anything on this woman, just informed you of facts of her situation that SHE gave to a reporter on Channel Six. She was singled out by lepage during his speech and several media outlets interviewed her afterwards. The information I relayed was very pertitent to this discussion, vis a vis, that she was on welfare for SEVEN years, in fact she still is and will be until she gets a nursing job AFTER she graduates this May. lepage wants to cut of benefits after FIVE years, and she herself said there should be some flexiablity.
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She and her 4 kids were on welfare for a while before she started to go to school, which probably did take longer than the average person due to the fact that she was working at least two jobs at the same time, while raising 4 children on her own.
I respect the fact that she worked hard and did something about her situation besides sit back and let us take care of it. It probably wasn't easy, but with a nursing degree, she will most likely become self-sufficient very soon. Isn't that the goal?
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'working at least two jobs' is a rather meaningless statement. I could easily work three part time jobs and put in less hours than the one job I have...then again, I have worked two jobs and put in 75-80 hours a week. as for raising 4 children on her own, not so, if she was collecting welfare then those of us who work were contributing.
On a side note, if you cant afford to raise them yourself, dont have them. Time to end the baby factory welfare train. I dont care it you *want* more kids, if you cant pay to raise them, then you should be responsible and not have them. I shouldnt be forced to pay to raise your kids, I'm already paying to raise my own.
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Seriously, the people who are up in arms about this claim it isnt happening. If it is not happening then why is it a problem to change the rules about it because if it is not happening then it will not affect anyone AND it closes a loophole that *could* be abused.
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One source I checked indicates there less than 2,500 undocumented immigrants in the state. So you're right. If there isn't a problem here than why all the fuss about the law change?
It makes me wonder. Is this change just one step closer to a "Paper's please" law?
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Who says LUCK has anything to do with getting a nursing degree? She studied for that degree. There is no free money. We who work pay for all this welfare. Im willing to cover someone for 5 years after that they need to get off their butt and do something for themselves or get lost. Kudos to Jennifer. 5 years or 7 years, she was gonna get that degree regardless.
But realistically, most working folks can earn a nursing degree in less time and usually do... She probably would have too.
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...and might I add, yes, being a domestic abuse survivor and having several small children complicates things... but let me ask you this... did she move here from some other state 7 years ago so she could get a free ride and have us Mainers pay for her degree? I dont think so.
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"This has been an issue we’ve been dealing with for years now, this myth that people are moving into Maine for generous benefits when we can show that that’s just not happening."
UNREAL. Ostriches. Keep stcking your head in the sand and ignoring the truth.
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seven years to get a nursing degree...why so long,because welfare was paying,if she was it wouldn't have taken that long...and Fatandhappy where do you get your info form????people have to be working to get welfare who are you kidding with that....THEY DON'T WORK THATS WHY THERE ON WELFARE ITS A WAY OF LIFE FOR THEM....AND i'M GLAD THERE GETTING NERVOUS...
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Susan, call DHHS and ask them for yourself. When they sign up for TANF they are required to sign up for ASPIRE, which is the program that monitors their job search. If they dont have a job at all then they are required to apply for so many per week. They are also required to work a certain amount of hours per week. If they don't have a regular job then they do this through volunteer work at local non profit agencies.
And you are wrong. A person can work part time and still qualify for TANF, not everyone is out of work.
But they are required to work, whether it's a regular job or volunteer work, they can't just sit on their butts and draw money. TANF and ASPIRE are very strict with their rules, noone can stay on it without abiding by the rules, the main one being to work.
I never said people had to be working to get on it....I said they have to work once they are on it. Try actually reading my posts before you make stupid comments
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"seven years to get a nursing degree"....
Good eye, Susan. The parrot, aka "eagle eyed nit picker", wondered how long it would take for someone to pick up on that.
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Pirate I agree with almost everything you post, BUT, I must now "disagree" with ALL of yourr posts because you have gone GREEN.
I never would have thunk it.
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I have read this story 3 times and still fail to see where in the story it says it took that woman 7 years to get her degree. Can someone please point it out to me becuase I am obviously missing it. Thanks! :)
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Perhaps you should expand your field to something other than the SJ and FOX News. The woman is a domestic violence survivor who had three small children, and limited education. So she collect 'welfare' while getting her GED and her children were still at home. Once they were old enough to attend school themselves, then she was able to attend nursing school full time. She is to be commended, but the entire process took seven years, two more than lepage will allow.
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Oh, so very sorry Tron. I'm not an internet stalker so therefore I was unaware of this woman's personal story. It wasn't noted in the SJ story - and the SJ story is the one we are commenting on. I give the woman a ton of credit for getting her degree in 7 years, particularly in light of the fact she's a single mother, and if she's a survivor of domestic violence, then I truly admire how she has turned her life around. I have admiration for anyone who wants a better life for themself and their children and is willing to work hard to make it happen.
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Good one ConservaMom.
I don't think everyone got it but I did. That is just too funny.
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Whats all the fuss Thankyou Govenor Lepage for putting the poor people that are LEGAL before everything else !Its time we as a State and a Country TAKE CARE of OUR OWN first! If you come to Maine and do not want to work ...DONT COME!!
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The election is over, you won though by the slimmest of margins. You don't ave to start thinking about the next election for three years, so why don't you drop the right wing absurdities and begin to speak truth.
Maine is no more a magnet for the poor (code word for minority) than there was actually a welfare queen for Reagan to blather on about. He made that story up and it played well with those who'd rather not think. The welfare magnet story is the same.
Drop it and start dealing with reality. Maine is on the end of the supply line for goods - that and the constant carping about high taxes and over regulation explains our economy as much as anything. NH's tax burden isn't that much less than ours - they more than make up for low state taxes with ridiculously high local taxes. But they don't gnash their teeth and shriek about it scaring off potential investors.
You have four years to prove my foreboding is unfounded - please don't blow it just repeating Heritage Foundation garbage.
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"According to data from the state's Department of Health and Human Services, over five years, five times as many benefit recipients left Maine each month compared to the number of people who moved here and received assistance."
So why does the cost keep going up? Five times as many are leaving than are arriving. Wow! After five years we should be getting close to bottoming out and cutting the expenses drastically. Oh, wait, this is an entitlement program, so we must INCREASE the budget and spend more more more more...
Great job done so far for our new Gov!
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If our welfare system is not easy then why did all the Somilians come here???I am sure it was not for the great weather and jobs.....
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what percent is the somali community on the system.they all drive new cars, full grocery carts,and dont work.
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If welfare reform isn't really necessary and most people who think people move to Maine for our overly generous benefits system are wrong, then what harm can come from the proposed changes? If indeed that's the case, then the residency requirements and lifetime caps won't really affect anyone while at the same time they will make many Mainers feel more comfortable that the system is fair. If, however, that were really the case, then the question I have is why are these agencies that feed off of the system whining about proposed changes that supposedly won't change anything?
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Another Bull's Eye, Gary.
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I really doubt that many, if any, people move to Maine for the welfare.
The only benefit Maine has that other states don't is we don't have a 5 year limit on TANF. I really don't think many folks would move here just for that. Although, a few might if they have exhausted their benefits where they came from.
But, a person can get the exact same benefits in other states as here. I think the benefit amounts vary because of the varied cost of living, but not enough to move to Maine for. This is just a myth that has somehow grown out of control.
I think alot of people move here to be around their families but end up on welfare because of the lack of jobs. That is the real issue here, jobs. If you want to get folks off of the welfare roles then give businesses some tax breaks and lower the costs of doing business here in Maine, and draw more industry here to employ some of these people.
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Exactly my thoughts Gary. If the system is being run fairly already then these changes Governor LePage (I just LOVE typing that) is proposing won't make a bit of difference to those who are receiving the benefits. THANK YOU Governor LePage (again - it just feels sooooo GOOD to type that) for establishing accountability with MY tax dollars.
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The left loves to try and point out hypocrisy at those who would go after their programs, but they fail to recognize their own.
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I think 'working for welfare' is a great idea. If your on it, the town you live in should be calling you to help mow lawns, shovel/snowblow snow, rake leaves etc. ....BUT....if they do that, and they get hurt..guess who is liable?? The town insurance! Not many towns will want to take that on. Maybe there could be some sort of waiver that if something did happen, their MaineCare would pay, not the town. In my job I have met people who really need the assistance, and those who have found every loophole they can and reap all the bennies they can get. In any 'free' program you will find both kinds of people. I totally agree that the system needs to be overhauled. I believe you should be a legal resident to get any help.But because there ARE those who truly need this help, it cannot be just a clean sweep, one shot deal. It needs to be looked at carefully and revamped slowely. I am very interested to see how this one shakes out...
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The munincipal governments in Maine administer General Assistance, and working for the city is already a requirement. They do mow lawns, rake leaves, shovel snow, ect. But the cities have nothing to do with TANF.
TANF is the only form of "welfare" available in Maine. It is administered by the state. To get it, a person has to have a child, and they must work a certain number of hours a week. If they don't have a job then they are required to look for a job AND to work as a volunteer a certain number of hours a week at an assigned non-profit agency. Contrary to popular belief, they are not allowed to just sit on their butts and collect money for nothing.
Angel, what you are saying we need we already have.
And yes, Maine is one of the few states that doesn't require residency, which actually only takes 30 days to establish. Less if the person gets a Maine DL or ID. And Maine is the only state, I believe, that extends TANF beyond the federally mandated 5 year lifetime limit. And both of these need to be changed. Residency should require at least 6 months in the state, and TANF should be limited to 5 years in a lifetime.
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If people are flocking to Maine for its welfare programs then it only shows Maine has far far to many perks and benifits for those receving welfare, the REAL CONSTITUTIONAL METHOD would be to follow guidelines of other welfare roles in other states from where these people are flocking from and adapt our system to thiers, such as mandatory labor to clean our streets shovel sidewalks, etc. you can bet your bippy there will be a stream heading away from Maine and it would be constitutional. A 4 or 6 month wait before recieving welfare could also be constitutional as a waiting period to make sure they are who they say they are instead of immediately granting welfare, either way yes we all know the existing welfare system is much to giving. However that being said Corporate welfare accounts for twice the the cost of public welfare and therefore should also be leaned out as well otherwise the legislature is doing a dis-service to all of Maine.
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People aren't flocking to Maine for it's welfare programs. He knows it. But he also knows that the bunker dwellers will stand and applaud if he makes such statements. Also, I don't even own a bippy, otherwise I'd take your bet.
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so if people are nto flocking to Maine for it's welfare, where is the harm in closing a loophole?
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Jennifer Cloukey is obtaining her nursing degree after being on welfare for seven years. If lepage had been governor, she'd be out of luck for the last two.
It will be interesting to see if facts meets imagination. There's a lot of misconceptions about 'welfare' and we'll see if lepage can see it and recognize them. Myopic views will hurt some needy people.
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...he finds out almost all immigrants in our state are documented. He's going to be furious and will move on to the next group of people he wants to remove or starve to death!
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7 years and now she decides to do something about it? In almost every other state she would have been cut off after 4 years (per federal guidelines). Now, some of you will focus on the fact that in other states she would not have had the chance to go for the degree because she would have been cut off but really, maybe she would have done it sooner and been on the dole for a shorter period?
As for LePage lifting the ban on asking immigration status, it wont change anything because DHHS workers know it would create more work for them if they ask the question...plus most of them are union liberals who want a welfare state to protect their jobs.
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I have met people like Jennifer Cloukey who, for a myriad of reasons, need the assistance of their community in order to get on their feet and become self-sufficient. "Welfare" in Maine is far more complicated than people on both sides of the issue would pretend. Let's hope that the Jennifer Cloukey's of Maine are not stopped from becoming the success stories that most are capable of becoming.
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The truly needy will get their assistance. The professionally unemployed and the fakers will be exposed and removed from the dole. Win win for the taxpayers. How's the New Year treating you, T?
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