Russ Dillingham/Sun Journal
A crew from St. Laurent and Sons begins to dismantle the tower of the former United Baptist Church on the corner of Bates and Main streets in Lewiston on Wednesday morning. Because of the close proximity to the street and Sam's Italian Restaurant, the crew was carefully removing the large stones one at a time. Once the tower is down, excavators will knock down the remainder of the building.
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Thursday, January 27, 2011
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Judging from the picture, it
Judging from the picture, it looks like, at least the windows have been pretty well destroyed already.
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I hope that a good Home was found for the 3 Manual EM Skinner Pipe Organ, the Stained Glass Windows and the Pews and other furniture in this church and that it wasn't just put up on the Auction Block.
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I cannot believe that the City of Lewiston is allowing the Beautiful Lovely Old Stone Church Building to be Torn Down! Why wasn't this building on the National Historical Register? I can't believe this is happening! Why are we allowing to Happen?! We can Save St. Mary's Catholic Church but, we Can't Save a Protest Baptist Church??
What is Lewiston, Coming to?
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If you mean "Protestant Baptist Church"? What is that?
Baptists were not a part of the Reformation Movement. They never left the Catholic Church because they were never in to begin with. Baptists originate hundreds of years before the Reformation.
I get called "protestant" by Catholics all the time, but it simply is just not true.
There is no such thing as a "Protestant Baptist Church"
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The Protestant church got its name from the fact that they were protesting against the teachings of the Roman Catholic church. One of the first denominations of the Protestants were the Anabaptists, the forerunners of today's Baptists. The Baptist church is a Protestant church, not a separate church from the Protestants. There are now many different divisions of the Baptist church, but all would be considered Protestants unless they join with the Roman Catholic church and see the Pope as the head of the church.
Many other denominations are also Protestant, such as Lutherans, for instance, because they originally started with a person who left the Catholic church, Luther, in the case of the Lutherans, who protested (Protestant=protested) against some of the teachings of the Catholic church.
Unless of course you are a Primative Baptist...Generally speaking, those groups which identify themselves as Primitive Baptists would certainly fit within the ranks of orthodox Christianity. The name refers to their desire to adhere to the original teachings and methods of the early church, rather than the newer traditions that have accumulated over the years. These brethren have also been called “Particular Baptists” and “Old School Baptists,” though “Primitive” has become the preferred name in most cases. While the practices and teachings of the Primitive Baptists may seem more old-fashioned and stricter than typical evangelical conservatives, they hold many things in common and are to be considered our brothers and sisters in Christ. Regardless of our own traditions and beliefs, we would do well to follow their example, which is like that of the Bereans in Acts 17:11, who “received the word with all readiness of mind, searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”
Well I am a Catholic that didn't...I don't know wha group of Baptist you belong to. I'm just glad you believe. :)
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Even many Catholic scholars of the 16th century acknowledged that the "anabaptists" originated sometime in the 2nd century with roots going back to the "home" churches in the Book of Acts. Did you know that the Amish and the Mennonites are Anabaptists?
There were many protestants during the reformation that joined Anabaptist groups (Puritans, perhaps), but the groups had been in existence for 1400 years. But just because many Protestants joined these groups doesn't make the group as a whole Protestant. Baptists also have doctrinal differences from protestant churches, such as the meaning of church sacraments (communion, baptism) and eternal security.
Anyway, the Anabaptists were around for 1400 years before the Catholic defectors joined.
BTW, there are alot of Primitive Baptists in the mountains back where I come from. They are very dedicated Christians, but they believe that "foot washing" is a sacrament and practice it alot. I would have a hard time with that. I know, Jesus set the example with Peter, but it wouls be hard for me.
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I really don't know much about the Baptist Church, fatand happy. I don't really want to argue about it either. :) I am a Catholic, but I have a few favorite Baptist ministers I listen to daily. Dr. Ed Young, Second Baptist Church (Winning Walk), Charles Stanley, First Baptist Church (In touch Ministries), and I also like Jeff Shreve (From His Heart) Chapelwood Methodist Church...I believe God can use us all to share His Word and Message. :) Thank you, fatand happy for the wonderful information. :) BTW...Are you from Maryland?
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I am from Arkansas. And I was just having a discussion with you, I wasn't arguing.
We don't have many Catholics at all back home, and I had never been called a Protestant until I came here. Alot of people have the misconception that there was no church except the Catholic Church before the Reformation, and many believe that every church that isn't Catholic is protestant. Neither of these are true.
Anyway, I may not agree with your conclusions on some threads, but i do respect your morals. And even more, I respect that you are an outspoken Christian.
Have a good night
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You have a blessed night also, fatandhappy. :)
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Was SJ down again. it was up just before I went home for diner and down when I was home. I see it is up again now that I am back at work. Seems to be a you-yo.
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Maybe it was your internet provider or maybe your browser...Sun and Journal has been running fine. :) I don't know anything about computers really...I'm just guessing. :)
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Does seem to be my internet provide. It went out at work after I put that one message in. Then I went to a freinds and they couldn't get on and I couldn't at their hous. Got home and it has been up and down sometime half the page and sometimes the page makes no sense. I called my provider and they tried to ping SJ and it timed out.
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I can't understand why the Baptist did not fight to stop the demolition of this church. I am a Catholic, yet I am sickened by the tearing down of United Baptist Church. You are so right...where was the Historical Society when it came to saving this church? I am very fearful for St. Patrick's Church and St. Joseph's Church too. I just don't know what has become of those that live in this area. We are closing the doors on churches left and right. They can blame it on the sinfulness of some....but the truth is many are walking away from God. What will happen the day that the people need a church community, and the churches have all been torn down? The "Great End Time Apostasy" comes to mind. Very, very sad....
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We Baptists believe that the "church' is the body of believers, not the building where they meet. The sanctuary of the building where I attend church was built in 1840, but it by itself is no more sacred than my truck. It's God's people that are sacred, not the building or any other object or substance on Earth. (With the exception of the Ark of the Covenant, which is indeed sacred and Holy, but I don't think it will ever be found before the Lord comes back). Even the Bible, the physical book itself is not "Holy", it is the Word of God inside the book that is Holy.
Churches have been built and torn down since settlers first came to America in the 16th century. It has nothing to do with end times prophecy, it's just a matter of buildings outliving their usefulness. The church said that the building was so old that the cost of repairs made it impractical to renovate, so they moved out to more modern accommodations. If the city or historical society thought that the building should be saved for historical reasons then that is fine. But to say that this building being torn down is somehow a sign of apostasy is a stretch, both practically and scripturally.
Just look at how many new churches have been built since this building was first built. There are a number new churches built in just the last 20 years. It's a life cycle, that's all.
Madeleine, Revelation tells us that Jesus will return and call the Church into heaven before everybody turns against God, so one would think that there will indeed be churches to attend until that day comes. All that being said, yes it is very sad to see a part of Lewiston history destroyed.
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I didn't say the tearing down of the church was the sign of the Apostasy...I said the closing of so many churches and the many that are walking away from God brought the "Great end time Apostasy" to mind.
Apostasy: a total desertion of or departure from one's religion, principles. "Falling Away". I don't believe those attending church or following Christ's teachings are rising in numbers. I believe there has been a great decline...a great falling away. The closing of churches means the less chance for people to attend church. I don't see many new churches being built in Maine, do you fatandhappy?
The Baptist may believe that the church may be just a building, yet, church attendence is very important...How will the people attend church when there are no longer any churches to attend? Your truck just won't cut it.
TEN REASONS FOR FAITHFUL CHURCH ATTENDANCE
BIBLE BAPTIST CHURCH
http://www.theflamingtorch.org/archives/2001/attendance.htm
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Ok, the "closing" of churches brings apostasy to mind.
This church didnt close, they just moved to another location.
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I don't think I have spoken to one person this week that hasn't mentioned the tearing down of this church...They are all in agreement that each time they drive by and see the demolition, they feel very sad.
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