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Jessica Hamilton, left, and Kandice Charest, both neighbors of Dan Bussiere, talk about how he was mistreated by others in the neighborhood who would pick on him because he was "different," as they stand on the street in front of 163 Holland St. Thursday morning.
"They would pick on him because he was a little retarded and spent all day cleaning the yard," Charest said. "If they just left him alone this would not have happened."
LEWISTON - A standoff that began before dawn Wednesday ended early Thursday after the suspect was found dead inside the building he had holed up in.
Police
have not officially identified the suspect, but Lewiston Police and
State Police spokesmen said Daniel Bussiere, 49, shot himself some time late Wednesday night or early Thursday morning.
"The (tactical) team entered a little before 1 a.m. and found him dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound," Maine Department of Public Safety Spokesman Stephen McCausland said.
Prior to the entry, the State Police Tactical Team fired several tear gas canisters into the building, McCausland said.
He said it was still unknown whether any guns were fired by police. Initial reports show the suspect did not fire any rounds at police.
Lt. Mark Cornelio, spokesman for the Lewiston Police Department, confirmed that the suspect, identified by neighbors as Dan Bussiere, had been found dead with an apparent self-inflicted wound to the head by State Police after they entered the building at 161 Holland St. shortly after 1 a.m. Thursday.
Later Thursday morning, several windows in the building were broken from what appeared to be tear gas canisters. The door to the suspect's first-floor apartment was covered with plywood.
What sounded like 20 shots were heard at about 6:50 p.m. Wednesday, though police did not confirm whether the volley was gun fire or tear gas at the time.
The shots prompted neighbors, who had been evacuated from their homes hours earlier, to hustle their children to cover.
A police tactical team continued to watch the downtown building, where the man had fled at around 5 a.m. Wednesday.
An hour later, a State Police negotiator pleaded with the suspect to surrender. "We're here to help you," the negotiator said. "You can help us by coming out the front door with your hands up."
According to witnesses at the scene, Bussiere was believed to be in his mid-40s.
Police were first seen entering the building around 9:15 a.m. Wednesday when they evacuated nieghbors, but did not attempt to apprehend Bussiere.
A police negotiator had been able to talk with the suspect via phone for about a half-hour before the two were disconnected. Just after 11 a.m. Wednesday a negotiater could be heard pleading with Bussiere to call back so they could continue talking.
Around 100 people, mostly neighbors, were near the scene, watching as dark fell Wednesday night.
By the time the standoff entered its 18th hour, some people in the neighborhood were arguing with each other and fights broke out. One man, frustrated that his family was unable to return to their home, attempted to storm the building where the man was holed up. Other neighbors stopped him and calmed him down.
Through it all, negotiations at the scene of the standoff continued.
"We know that you may be scared," the negotiator told the suspect around 8 p.m. "Nobody out here wants to hurt you. If you come out, we can hear your side of the story and get you the help you need. You have the power."
Police had been trying to talk to Bussiere with a loudspeaker and were calling him by the name "Dan." A State Police tactical vehicle was parked at the front of the building as police negotiated with the suspect. It appeared the police had the first-floor apartment unit, where Bussiere lived, surrounded.
Negotiators were urging Bussiere to pick up a cell phone and talk. "We know it's been a long night," a police negotiator was heard saying.
According to Lewiston police, a search warrant was issued in the afternoon for weapons that Bussiere may have in his apartment, including a 30-30 Savage rifle.
Sidney Lord, who lives in a building near the scene of the standoff, said the trouble started at about 5 a.m. when Bussiere threatened and assaulted his son with a handgun near 7-Eleven, a short distance away. He said that incident followed weeks of confrontation between Bussiere and other neighbors.
"This man pulled a gun on my son and slammed it into his head as hard as he could," Lord said. "We've had problems with him for three or four months."
Lord's son Justin, 21, was dazed but not seriously hurt. Justin said he believed the weapon with which he was struck was a black and silver .357 magnum revolver. He said he could see hollow-point bullets in the revolver portion of the handgun as it was pointed at him.
After the alleged assault, Bussiere retreated into his apartment. A short time later, police were on the scene and the standoff began.
Sidney Lord said Bussiere had punched his wife in recent days, escalating the tension around the Oak Street neighborhood. Police were called to Bussiere's building on Tuesday.
On Wednesday, McCausland said "We have opened up a line of communication with the man, and state police negotiators have been talking to him throughout the morning over the phone. Our goal is to conclude this in a safe and peaceful manner."
As of 10 a.m. Wednesday, a two-block area from College Street to Main Street had been cordoned off by police. Police also evacuated some people from their homes on a section of Oak Street from Elm Street to Prescott Street.
For an entire day, neighbors who had been hustled out of their homes stood at Elm and Towle streets, trying to figure out how things had gotten so ugly so quickly.
According to Deborah Brown, Justin Lord's mother, she had a confrontation with Bussiere several days ago after he called her a profane name. She slapped his face, she said, and he then punched her in the head. Brown said she reported the incident to police, who did go to Bussiere's apartment to speak with him.
According to neighbors, Bussiere has a history of confrontations with them and police were at Bussiere's apartment several times Tuesday after various neighbors complained about him acting out.
Tracy Robbins of Livermore, who visits the Holland Street neighborhood frequently to see friends, said she believes Bussiere may have some mental health issues, but doesn't believe he's a bad person. Bussiere spends time keeping the sidewalk in front of his apartment clean, and gets agitated when people don't respect that effort, Robbins said, which results in frequent confrontations with neighbors.
Robbins said she thinks Bussiere was provoked Wednesday. "It's not right," she said. "Because people with mental illness get a bad name and usually it's not their fault."
William Hodges, the father of two small children, said he walked to the police department Monday to file a report about Bussiere's behavior. Hodges was woken up this morning by police who told him he would be evacuated, and that he should gather what he needed to do that. Hodges said neighborhood issues with Bussiere were ongoing. "I don't let my kids out front because of it," he said.
Another neighbor, Ryan Green, was standing at a police barricade in his bare feet after being evacuated. He said he didn't have time to grab any belongings, including shoes.
Earlier in the day Chris Spencer, a passerby, noticed all the small children gathered and around lunch time he donated some Italian sandwiches he had purchased.
Police closed Holland Street near the Rainbow Federal Credit Union, which is on Main Street. Holland Street was closed on that side of Main Street, which is also near the Trinity Catholic School, a private Catholic school. Students remained in the building.
By late Wednesday night, the American Red Cross was working to find the displaced neighbors - including several school-age and younger children - a place to spend the night. They were discussing the possibility of housing the nearly two dozen people at an area school or at the Lewiston Armory.
The neighbors that were evacuated were pooling their resources to purchase fast food for their children as they sat waiting on the side of a building at Towle and Elm streets. Earlier in the day Chris Spencer, a passerby, noticed all the small children gathered and around lunch time he donated some Italian sandwiches he had purchased.
"Some of them have been out here since 6 a.m." Spencer said. "I did it just for the kids but it looks like it went all the way around and the dog even go some. I just hope they can get back into their homes soon."
More details, photographs and video from this incident will be posted here as soon as they become available.








Stop all this..... Have
Stop all this..... Have respect!!
Dan, you have been a great friend and you didn't deserve to die this way!!! You will be missed! The people that knew you, KNOW !!!! You wouldn't hurt a fly!! This was very sad!! Rest in peace my friend. And all of you pionting fingers get a life!! A life was lose!! HAVE A HEART! Let him rest in PEACE.
ALWAYS IN OUR THOUGHTS, FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS!! Gonna miss ya!!
Jane Bernier Cadman
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... When one commits suice, they are considered an unrested spirit. We will expect Dans spirit will live on for years to come. The one thing I would like to point out is, Mental Illness is no laughing matter and the person who suffers should not be pushed to the point that Dan was. I dont think he was laughing when words and actions of others caused more pain , than that he already lived with. Your children will suffer because they witnessed all of this. Children are resillient they say but when they witness the violence around them, its traumatizing them. Your curse words, yelling, threatening to 'kick' hineys, is violence, and unacceptable. Chanting and mocking the mentally ill or anyone who is different, is teaching them to be disrespectfull. These are very poor lessons to be teaching your children. Get off the porches and bring your children to the library(s), park(s), or just for a walk. Children learn what they live, and there is no truer fact. The examples set yesterday to your children will effect them for the rest of their lives, count on it. Change people. Change old habits and take your children by the hands and occupy your time with positive adventures. Next time you see someone is different, think of the pain they have to live with. Get educated, you might find you suffer as well and then you will understand more of your actions. Listen to your heart, treat others as you would want others to treat You. Make the changes now as your children are our future and any one or more could be a Dan one day.
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bap812 my comment was removed too. I think because I agreed with you...Sorry...
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I love how the folks of the neighborhood were complaining about being forced from their homes. If they weren't evacuated from their homes and shots were fired and someone seriously hurt, imagine the people that would be complaining about not being told by police about the danger around them. As for the folks that left their homes without their medications and stuff, if you have serious problems where you need insulin or heart meds, don't you think you would have grabbed it before you left the house....You obviously had time to grab your smokes!!! You all sound so intelligent on the news too. The police couldn't storm the house too quickly or they could have been hurt or they could have ended up shooting the suspect.
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The complaining and the smoking and the heart thing are not from the same person you know. Like you don't have anything better to do then to judge. It is a shame that some complained, I was only pointing out that this was a difficult time for all and I was responding to someone saying "they got what they deserved." It didn't take me long after posting that to see some posting in here are getting off on putting these people down. Including you by the way. There are medications for fedishes like that you know. God Bless You.
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Which law are you refering to? Also, for one, they don't teach enough law enforcement in mental health school so if I was a "social worker" I wouldn't have learned the laws in it, second, I said social "service" worker, it means I work in the field, there is a difference and if you really were retired law enforcement you would know that.
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To slvrwspr : Are you serious????? Verbal assault is the same as physical assault??? You're off your rocker. You're what's wrong with the world! Big deal he called her a name, as previously stated he was mentally ill, so obviously he wasn't all there. She should've ignored it and went in her house. SHE HAD NO BUSINESS PUTTING HER DAMN HANDS ON HIM, SHE'S LUCKY SHE'S AROUND TO TALK ABOUT IT!
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I'm sorry Chrystal, I don't hope you get yelled at by a stranger and I shouldn't have written that. I wish people would stop yelling at each other period. But, I know that's just a pipe dream. sigh.
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I like how last night the Sun-Rag was reporting shots fired, some from the guy inside while the tv stations were correctly reporting that Tear-gas had been used. Far be it from the Sun-Journal to let the truth get in the way of a juicy headline.
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Also, there was someone out there who needed their heart medication and the police wouldn't get it. ofcourse this was a frustrating incident and most people involved were helpful and cooperative and no one "deserved" this.
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Alright, first off the DA should thoroughly investigate this whole affair and bring proper charges. At the very LEAST this woman should be brought up on charges of ASSAULT, because by her very admission she did hit him. Considering she knew of his mental status, doing so caused the death of this man, she could possibly be held liable for causing this man's death. Second the lack of police action should be examine. When called to investigate, the only person cuffed was the poor guy, and the woman got off Scott free. He may of had paranoid tendencies, but in this case they were well founded. The police could have stopped it before it got this far. Perhaps Chief Bussiere could investigate why his force acted so improperly.
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It's sad that Dan can't be around to tell his side of the story. One person against the neighborhood. So sad.
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well put amen
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This man assaulted her first. Verbal assault is still assault and charges can be brought up for that (not in this case obviously), secondly, he hit her back so he couldn't press charges. He also got in her personal space which is a violation of her rights. If she was charged with that one count, he would've been charged with verbal assault then physical assault. Verbal assault is not okay and is a violation against someone and is punishable by law.
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ok so like I read what you wrote and I'm totally confused. Wasn't it grandma that went to HIS apartment? That was HIS personal space she got in to. I think you should get the story straight here because it's not making any sense to me. When did he get in to her personal space?
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They were outside. She approached him but did not get into a reasonable person's personal space but who knows what his level of space comfort really was. I don't expect you to believe her story because you don't know her on a personal level but I do and it takes a lot more than the "c" word to scare her and her feelings are not subject to strangers, she was afraid when he stepped into her space yelling with vulgarity and at that point it was too late to decide to stay on her porch. knowing Grandma, she did want it all to stop and really did want to know what was really angering this man and she really did want to make peace by finding out what it was and seeing if she can stop it.
Even in your scenario, this woman would've never wanted guns involved let alone this tragic ending. And you can bet your bottom that dispite the swelling in her ear canal from his blow (much harder than she hit him), she was one of the only ones praying for him and crying for him as a suffering human being last night. Some people were cruel about it, and some were relieved that they wouldn't have to keep their kids inside because of him anymore, but she was not one of them (at least not happy about how), she was very sad by the outcome. She, like the police wanted him to come out alive and that was enough proof for me even if I hadn't known her, to believe that she went over there to try to sort things out not anticapating what happened.
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Well no one has to worry about him any more and the neighborhood got what they wanted. And your right, I do not believe grandma is so innocent like your trying to portray to the us all here. I believe with all my heart that she along with the rest of the neighborhood tormented Dan and it's disgusting to me. Some one should be responsible for his death besides himself. I can't begin to understand why people are so cruel....
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I must say it is sad that so many people were aware of this escelation and this tragic end was not prevented. People were afraid to let their kids out to play because of him. It seems with some intensive intervention this could have been prevented. I hope this serves as a learning tool for neighbors and police when dealing with neighborly disputes. Espeacially if the police had been called several times I mean come on! Why was it okay to let this ride? So sad.
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OMG did you all say he was mentally ill well then grand-ma should of known better then to hit a mentally unstable man whether he cussed at her or not.And yes he could of been charged with verbal assault but probably would of walked soon after due to his illness unlike grand-ma.
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With all due respect, Grandma is not an LCSW. I wrote earlier that many community members are not trained to handle mental illness. Grandma did not know what she was walking into, he didn't wear a sign that posted his mental illness and he's not the first to yell at children, she had no way of knowing he was so unstable that he would resort to guns, not even the cops knew that so why would you have expected her to?
When I wrote I've seen her in the store be suportive to people with mental illness I should've been more clear, she never treated them differently, if you needed a ear she was there, she didn't know who had mental illness and who didn't. I'm the one who recagnized mental illness in many of her customers because I work in the field and know many people rich and poor who have mental illnesses of different sorts.
I don't have a radar or anything for it but I hope you get what I mean, that she was never trained for it therefor can't be expected to be able to tell the difference between an angry person and an unstable one because we all appear unstable when/if we show anger.
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I beg to differ on your comment about Grandma didn't know what she was walking in to. She clearly knew if the police had been called several times because this problem had been going on for some time what she was walking in to. I think she was so angry that this man hollered at her grandson and was going over there to confront him about it and not ask what her grandson had done. Apparently she thought that she could reason with him but it back fired when he hurt her feelings by calling her a dirty name. What did she call him first? What REALLY happened on that visit she made to his apartment? If Dan had wanted to hurt some one seriously it would of been her that day she showed up at his door. I also think that her son was so angry because Dan called his mom a dirty name and that is why he went after him. The gun in the forehead was his way of saying - BACK OFF. Dan could of pulled the trigger there IF he had really wanted to hurt some one. I don't think Dan wanted to hurt a soul, I believe that he just wanted these people harassing him to back off and leave him alone.
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The people fighting were removed and were not the same as the person trying to get back in. Some people out there who were not directly involved were left without their own mental illness medication so please don't judge one person with mental illness while sticking up for another, it makes a hypocritical statement.
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For those who are blaming this tragic event on a Grandmother who made a mistake when trying to find out why this man was yelling at her Grandchild, for those who do not get that he himself paid his own justice by hitting her back, for those who complain about paying the taxes that would've been used to give this man more help, for those who assume this must be a downtown Lewiston thing and their must be someone to blame, remember mental illness is everywhere and diagnoses are given when people can not function within society due to a matter of their ability/inability to process daily living activities in a reasonable manner.
The meds only work for so long then people become tolerant to them. When this happens, and it almost always does, there are periods between treatments and med changes are made, the person suffering with the mental illness is unstable at this time and do react without provocation although not always violently.
This is not a downtown Lewiston issue, this is a global one. People with mental illness live in the suburbs too. This is a community issue no matter where it happens and everyday people wether they are rich or poor are not trained in how to help their very neighbors.
I see people walking the streets and in shopping centers who have mental illness. These people are left on their own because no one wants to pay the taxes it would take to staff them all and that's the God's honest truth.
These people who want their independance are not welcomed in the suburbian communities. The untrained person is afraid when approached by someone with such differences and therefor they are ignored and left under-treated.
How many of you have been approached by a man who studders, who wants to talk about his goldfish while you are trying to pick ripe tomatoes at Walmart? Did you smile and talk to the man? Or did you pretend you couldn't hear him and wish he'd go away?
This poor man did not die because a Grandmother slapped him, he did not die because of the "sin" called suicide either. This man died from mental illness.
Mental illness is serious and dangerous to the person who has it. We shouldn't blame neighbors who couldn't help him pshychologically but were put in a position to defend their families. We should dig into our own soals and realize the next person with an unusual affect who tries to talk our ears off at the bank about the new shoes he/she's going to buy could be a "Dan with a gun to his own head" by night fall. Sometimes a smile and a nod can make a world of a difference.
This Grandmother was honest and accountable for her actions before the stand off. The police chose not to arrest them both because they believed the situation was resolved after talking with the parties involved including Dan.
I know this Grandmother enough to know that she can take more heat than the average person so he wasn't innoscent nor was he defenceless.
She called the cops that day because she new there was trouble bigger than she could handle, she was honest and willing to pay for her actions (which she did by the way when he hit her back), she tried to get help for the situation so it wouldn't get bigger, that's why she called, not to get him in trouble but to account for her actions and get help. Please keep in mind though her hand was regretably swift, she was the only one who reached out and said "hey, we need help over here! this man needs something!" She even risked jail to get this man help.
Let he who hath not sinned, cast the first stone.
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Your points are well taken BUT my comment was to let people know that you do NOT handle situations like this on your own. IF you have been having problems with a person like this woman says she had, you go to the police and if you are not satisfied with the out come from the police, you go to a higher up until the problem is resolved. You do NOT go to their house to confront the person you have been having problems like this with, it was wrong and she had no right to assault him. No one has the right to put their hands on another human being unless they want to be touched or in the event it is a child and they need discipline.
The comments from the two young ladies also is an indicator to me that this man was tormented for a very long time by his neighbors. This behavior is uncalled for too. This also is a factor in the results of this man dying. I am sure he probably could not stand it any longer and did not know where to turn. When you feel the world is against you, some times you run and suicide is how they solve their problems because they feel no one is there for them. Just to let people know, you can find help in many places including your local churches.
Life would be a lot nicer IF people would find some compassion in their hearts and smile at the man with the problem like I have done in the past and not past judgment on that person. They say honey is best in a situation like this and not vinegar.
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Well, let's realize that this man did not get what "he deserved." The person who posted that is, in my opinion is being mean spirited. And secondly, the woman who slapped Dan across the face can't go around assaulting him just because he called you a bad name. That he, in reaction, punched you in the ear, well file that under the heading "Too Bad". If Dan had got what "he deserved", then that woman would have an arraignment date for assault. You can't go around hitting or assaulting people because they call you a bad name.
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Well said mikec
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My comment was removed, I guess, because I used the word moron. Sorry pbarry. I think you should take a second and third look at these comments. My comment was tame,and there are others that need a second and third look. You missed them the first time reviewing them.
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Faith go back to school! Stop putting down the mentally ill. How dare you call him a jacka** when he just wanted a clean yard, and a bunch of disrespectful pigs trashed it!
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I just want to say to you all that was so bothered by this man, to grow the hell up and i just want to asked why nothing was done to the old woman that slapped this man for calling her a vulgar name. And second since everyone claimed he was had a mental illness so lady did you feel justified on slapping this mentally ill person? I feel tremendiously sorry for this mans family and their lost i feel nothing but heartbreak for this man that got pushed to his breaking point i hope that you all feel happy now that he wont be a disturbance to any of you anymore may this man finally rest in peace finally which apparently never received in life and on this note you all should take a long hard look into your own baggage before picking on someone that as you all put it "DIFFERENT".
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Hi everyone,
Please keep the comments civil -- which means no false accusations and no namecalling. I will delete comments which <a href='http://www.sunjournal.com/policy'>violate our commenting policy</a>.
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to <a href='http://www.sunjournal.com/users/pbarry'>email me or give me a call</a>.
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A couple of things need to come from this.
First, it was obvious the situation was escalating because police were being called. It sounds like they were powerless to do more than just talk to the people involved, and they need to have the ability to take someone into custody if she or he can't keep their hands to themselves. These neighbors were provoking this guy, but we need to understand that several of these neighbors are people who also have mental problems, even if they are not diagnosed. Police need to be able to do more.
Second, it was not right to have these families with children outside all day and night, practically begging in the streets for food and diapers, and then hustling around to the sound of shots fired. It is safe to assume that in a situation like that, some people might not have an alternative place lined up. Those kids will be traumatized now, and there's even less chance that they will go on to lead a normal life.
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Must be nice to incorrectly assume that I get benefits from the state because i dont, I am of the working class moron(S) and further more like i said until you get the facts and the truth dont bother saying anything. I dont sit around and get fatter by the day i dont smoke and i wasnt concerned with food, I was concerned for the dozens of kids that were there. Cruel and selfish if thats what it takes to live in this hell hole of a city with people feeling bad because some jackass stopped taking meds to do drugs and harass neighbors while sweeping dirt and water from puddles i have no sympathy. I have small children in my home as well as my friends. and when it comes to the cops protecting people. one child was sick and thats the reason people were starting to get upset i know because i was there to break it up. and I myself had to go and get the police to help, i and a few others had a front row seat as to what went down last night. a policemans job is to serve and protect thats what the state police did as far as lewiston is concerned i think they need a refresher course in the ability to serve and protect. because they had the street blocked off. well, guess what they had all of us in direct view of the wackos rifle way to go! man i tell you what i feel so f'n safe in the presence of lewistons finest(not). and there is more then one witness to back up the true accounts of what happened last night. dipshyts who dont live in the area, who were not here to see and reflect on what really happened last night need not be worried. WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO OUR OPINION WHETHER IT BE RIGHT OR WRONG.
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Are you telling me that nobody had any where else they could go? Friends, relatives, co-workers, I'm sure there was someone who would take you in and feed you and care for the "sick" children. Instead people choose to hang around and watch and complain that they are not getting enough attention. Just a bunch of attention seekers. Doesn't anyone go to work? Why weren't the kids in school or why did the bus drop them off, why didn't the school do something to keep the kids out of the area? If something like that happened in my neighborhood, they would not have had to worry about evacuating, because we would have all been at work or at least had the smarts to find some place to go. Let me ask you this, if the building was on fire, would you be on here complaining about the fire department keeping you from your home?? If you were one of the, as you call yourself, a working class mornon, you would have been smart enough to just leave the area and let the police handle it with out all the other "drama" created by the attention seekers in your neighborhood.
I'm sure things could have been handled better but how often does this happen? Had the neighbors not tormented the man, none of this would have happened. I hope those of you who did, and you all know who you are, are happy with the out come. Such a sad situation.
As for the "saint" of a mother who slapped the man... hard for her to get any respect, watching her sit and tell her story with her blowing smoke at the camera as she talked. Nobody involved, except the police, had any RESPECT for the situation, just a bunch of people looking for their few minutes of fame, with their "feel sorry for me" attitude.
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The cars were left in the driveway and the people couldn't get to them, not all people have connections or cell phones. Many of the people with children did find them places to go before they themselves had places, it just took a while. Not everyone is good natured either, but to judge people we don't know is not of good nature either.
If Grandma had worked as a school teacher and lived in Yarmouth and this same thing happened no one would question her right to approach a man yelling at her Grandson and ask him what her Grandchild did to upset him. That proves she thought she was dealing with a reasonable man.
If a man got in my face and yelled and called me names I'd probably be scared enough to hit him too, but I would have kept going because yelling in someone's face is scary and violent and you can't predict wether they'l try and kill you or not. It would've been out of fear because it's not wise to walk away while someone's in your face because people that mad will come at you from behind. She admitted her actions, the'res a lot of respect to be had for that because most people generally won't do that. She had a delema with no time to think about it once he got in her space. I think it was out of fear.
I don't care who you are, when your face to face with a man a foot taller then you bent towering over you to get his face in yours yelling at you with such foulness, your defenses are going to be there, you can cower and hide, try to run, or try to get him to back off and she just needed him to back off.
I hope each and every one of you who judges her gets the chance to know what it's like in the millisecond it takes to go from safe to in immediate danger from someone inches from you. What will you do? I was taught in self defence class to yell stop, then kick them in the balls/pubic bone if he/she keep coming and that class was promoted and paid for back in the 90's by the law enforcement team. I was even taught to go much further then that if he/she doesn't back off.
Grandma didn't have time to yell stop or back off before he was too close for her safety. According to the self defence classes I took, she was acting in self defence.
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It's ridiculous the way you're making excuses for the grandmother. The way she handled it was even more ridiculous.
I'll tell you something.. if my kid was given a hard time by a guy across the street, the last thing I'd do is show up at his door and be all confrontational and attacking. I'd simply instruct my kid to stay away from that person and that'd be the end of the issue.
This woman went over to Dan's, launched a verbal diatribe, flipped out when he gave her a few choice words after she bullied him; then she slapped him, and wondered why he hit her back in self-defense. Come on! None of what she did, was right.
I'm sure that the grandchildren involved were exposed to much conversation about the whole ordeal. People need to BE THE PERSON THEY WANT THEIR CHILDREN/GRANDCHILDREN TO BECOME. This chick is setting a very bad example. I kinda hope DHS takes a peek into the lives of the grandkids involved ...
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Bottom line is Grandma thought she was going to take care of things and it back fired... should of called the police and not stepped foot on his door step. No excuse for hitting another human being, non what so ever.
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Do you really have to continue to verbally degrade the dead? He's dead. Is that not quite good enough for you?
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Did you really need the police to come over and tell you it wansnt safe. If you felt as though you were in harms way or the kids were in harms way all you need to do is move somewhere else. A simple solution to someone with minimal intelligence. I guess you dont fall into that category. Good luck breathing, walking and chewwing gum and blinking, its hard work. concentrate and you should live.
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To MAINLYMAID: You’re right in one sense, people with a mental illness do need to take their meds, but they also deserve not to be picked on and tormented like this man was. That woman had no business putting her hands on him what so ever. For another thing bipolar people are mostly violent only when provoked. It sounds like this poor man just wanted a nice clean yard, and a bunch of pigs just trashed it!
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"Pigs"...It sounds like a lot of people writing in here have a set bias about where the "pigs" live. Let me tell you, it simply is not true. Not all the people you see in the tree street areas are "pigs". They are simply poor. That is their crime. Because of a few people the whole place is judged. I remember when I was displaced by circumstance. I had to live in a neighborhood with people who did not work, drank all night and stole and vandalized things. I was one of 5 people out of over 50 families that worked everyday. I called the police once and paid dearly for that.
I agree that there is a tendency of people to gang up on those who are "odd". Combine that with a lack of intervention by providers to the mentally ill, police who are stretched way to thin and laws that do not hold water with respect of forced treatment when it all goes bad and you have a neighborhood where people just become frustrated and sometimes overtly mean. The fact that many in that particular area may or may not be on welfare is just plain stupidity on the part of those constantly referring to it. Ignorance is the most likely culprit in all of this.
Again, mentally ill does not mean that a person is unable to take responsibility. It means that they have to take extra care in managing themselves. By not allowing a person to take responsibility for their actions, you deny them the opportunity to learn a different way of life. It is not ok for anyone to terrorize and harrass an entire neighborhood endlessly regardless of thier mental condition. It is not acceptable.
It is sad, that in this day and age, that a situation like this was even allowed to fester. Perhaps a little public education is needed. Perhaps, those without sin should be the only ones writing in here...I think that you will find that there would be nothing written at all as no one that I know is free of it.
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I agree with the public education idea. Why not teach it in schools? With so many kids being told ther'es something wrong with them and all. I think some form of public education would help. At least that way people with compassion could understand more and be able to be helpful.
This is truely sad for both parties.
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Well said joeziehmr and truth. The LPD and MSP did a great job!! Their job is to protect the public from harm, which they succeded in doing. It's too bad that Mr Bussiere killed himself, but at least no one else was hurt or killed.
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To Faith - you are cruel, heartless, and selfish.
I lived downtown for many, many years and people like you are the reason I fought tooth and nail to get out of there. You have an entitlement attitude that stinks to high heaven. So sorry you were inconvenienced by someone else's crisis - which by the way, resulted in the loss of his own life. Meanwhile, there you were, more concerned over the Salvation Army passing you by with free food. Didn't your check come the day before, on the first?
My heart is broken for this man, and his family. God bless them. And God bless the law enforcement officers that were involved in this situation... I can't imagine the trauma they suffer during and after something like this....
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it is unfortunate that it came to this... A man with mental disorder gets picked on by his bullying neighbors for being different... Them neighbors are COWARDS. the type who need to make up for their shortcomings by picking on a disabled man. the same people who would tuck their tale and run if confronted by someone who could actually defend themselves.. May he RIP. And for the bullying neighbors- its too bad you didnt feel the hatred he must have built up over the years. its too bad he didnt take a couple of you punks with him
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So the neighbors started fighting amongst themselves when they couldn't get back into their houses? Wow, what a classy bunch. No wonder the neighborhood looks like a dump.
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OMG I woke up to read this story and my heart is breaking.... I was hoping and praying that this would not end like this.
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You know I am a neighbor who lives right next door to the woman who is involved in this story, shes far from a slacker, and those of us who were here last night and had to wait until 2:30 am to get back into our homes know the truth. What I am more upset about is this man shot and killed himself, why did the police and maine's tactical force not hear the gunshot. the 20 hour wait could have been cut down, this is exactly what happened in Auburn when the guy shot his mother and that who ordeal took almost two days before they went in and found him dead. come on now. they didnt hear anything from this suspect in hours, they fired somewhere between 20 rounds of teargas and this guy still did'nt come out. HELLO!!!! that should have been one clue , the negotiator not being able to talk his ear off should have been another clue. I say that guy got what he deserved. you dont threaten young people put the neighborhood at an extreme risk and others i mind you and mental illness aside this whole problem with this guy should have been taken seriously by the lewiston police department but it wasn't. it is just another example of how incompetent lewiston's boys in blue really are. last night they were more glorified security guards then anything, the Maine state police were the ones in the building getting all the action. Lewiston wonders why its residents cant stand their police department its because they suck plain and simple. if the had better personality skills, better job knowledge and just plain better everything maybe we as residents and tax payers would respect the things they do. but until that time good luck. what about the victims here, what help is there going to be for them? what about the fact that when the salvation army was in this area the first time all the food and drinks went to the cops instead of the people who had more then a dozen small children combined. we as residents of this neighborhood had to call them back out here so we could get some help. most of who live in this area are on a fixed income with very little resources but still dont qualify for other help. and when something goes wrong we are pretty much left to take care of ourselves. SO ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THIS, UNTIL YOU HAVE WALKED IN OUR SHOES, DEAL WITH THE STUFF WE HAD TO DEAL WITH, AND UNLESS YOU KNOW THE TRUTH I SUGGEST THAT YOU LEARN THE TRUTH AND FACTS BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND SAY SOMETHING YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT. LAST NIGHT SUCKED, THE GUY GOT WHAT HE DESERVED ITS OVER NOW CAN WE MOVE ON?
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Faith- You are a moron! First thing- I know Deb as well and while yes she is a hards working person who does hold down multiple jobs she does so to support her deadbeat kids and her grand kids. Though this is admirable she doesnt have the right to assault anyone. I am also sure my assumption would be accurate that her son is not innocent here. He was probably one of the people known to harrass this man and bears some blame in the outcome of this situation. I have worked with the mentally ill in the past and they cannot be expected to function at the same level or the same reasoning skills that non mentally ill peopl would used. They're perspective of reality is different and that is why it is called MENTAL ILLNESS. Second-Wait till its someone close to you having this kind of problem. Then the police will take your advice and just go in and get him dead or alive because the neighbors dont want to be inconvenienced. We are sorry you couldnt sit around and drink/ smoke all day in the comforts of you apartment. You deserve better than that . let the poor mentally ill person die and move on right? You are sick. Truth/ details, they dont matter. What you wrote here is just deplorable and inhumane. This man deserved every chance to come out of that place with his life, and the police were working very hard to resolve this with a good outcome. Unfortunately it didnt work out. As far as the hand outs not making it to you fast enough. You had the ability to leave the area and get the things you needed, the police did not . that is why the red cross went to them first and not you. Quite frankly they deserve it and you dont. Im sure you get a monthly hand out as it is so if you needed something, GO GET IT. Dont expect that you are owed anything from this because you are not. You are a perfect example of what is wrong with society today. This expectation of entitlement is what is bankrupting this country and this state. Its the people like you who wouldnt get off they're but to feed they're own kids that give the hard working people in your area a bad rap.Thank god for some caring people who came forward with handouts for you or your kids just might have starved out there. God knows you couldnt do anything for them, there isnt a everythings free store nearby.Get a life. And I hope you get what you deserve.
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AMEN!!! Get a damn job, and buy the things you need yourself, dont rely on us to buy it for you
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A man killed himself do not disrespect the major that he is dead and that it took until 2:30 to get into your house. The tactical teams were trying to get through to him without a loss of life it does happen in SWAT and it will continue to happen think of how the officers feel. Put yourself in their shoes someone they tried to save killed themselves. I do live in the area and know the area well and a lot of the police officers are really nice men and women who do put their lives on the line. Quit whining that it took until 2:30 to get into an apartment someone died and your blaming everyone if you shut your mouth first and watched what you spoke of it might be easier to understand and comprehend. Know one deserved to die and know one had it coming to them like that do not mock the dead and do not mock the fine men and women who serve in the Lewiston Police Department. In that situation there is going to be guilt and psychological consoling for the officers of maybe your not that smart and your just a smug and arrogant little creature who cannot really determine what to say other then to blame and say he deserved it. Maybe, if you were really a fine and upstanding member of society you would have dialed the suicide prevention hot line for your neighbor in need. People do not need to die like that and do not need someone mocking them. How come you did not call if you knew the truth? You do not understand those situations and rather then anything else you blame those who tried to save him. You are a real mench even in the name of faith.
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"Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a master in heaven. Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving;" Colossians 4: 1-2
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I would like to know why the woman that slapped Dan and also Dan where not arrested for assault when the woman that slapped him went to confront him a few days before the stand off. Why didn't the police do something then? Why did it escalate to this magnitude? To me this part of the story is not making any sense.
I think your right in saying no one deserved to die, this is so very true and I feel horrible this happened. I had hoped I would get up today and read the headlines that Dan had come out and he was taken in to custody to get some help.
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I see the same funnyness about that, it's like there was this giant hole in the process. If it were a boyfriend/girlfriend or husband/wife situation they both would've been arrested. But even then, mental health help is not pushed at all. I've worked with domestic violence victims and the person arrested for assault bails themselves out then is free without help and maybee if convicted in court (up to a year later) they are ordered to take some anger management classes.
I do wonder what can be done to interviene with the underlying problems that lead to violence, for violence is ussually a simptom of something bigger being wrong. Really, I don't think we have anything in place to properly handle these situations. I mean here we had two people admitting what they had done (according to the records anyway) and not even a sit down mediation was done or even sumond for like they do in high school sometimes.
It seems shady that things were left like they were and concerning at the notion that nothing is in place to deal with these things as I remember driving down Barlett st. a few weeks back and heard two women outside yelling at each other and their was a cop in front of me and he just kept driving! Yelling is violent. What is in place for neighborhood disputes?
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All you are talking about is some other persons "accounts" with the individual who is behind this 20-hour standoff. It is obvious you don't have all the facts.
I do agree mental health issues are sensitive, however you can't blame someone's actions solely on that unless they've been extensively tested and diagnosed. And as far as the person who is terrorizing a neighborhood and threatening individuals with a gun does NOT have more rights that any other citizen. He is responsible for his actions and I wouldn't be surprised if he was charged with the very least criminal threatening or a class C felony Terrorizing.
Until it is proven that this man has a mental illness and he is excused of his actions by a judge or jury based on testimony about his mental illness he isn't to be "pampered like a baby".
As far as wasting time and energy, the men and woman of the Lewiston Police Dept. and Maine State Police spent nearly 20 hours protecting the innocent lives that this man put in harms way and you refer to those heroes as wasting their time? How do you even look at yourself in the mirror without be disgusted with yourself. You should be ashamed.
Good job LPD and MSP and I'm glad nobody got seriously hurt by this man.
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A person can't have a mental illness unless they've been tested? You're kidding right? No one was pampering him, clearly the police thought he was unstable and did what was neccesary to prevent further harm - correctly I might add.
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A person doesn't just go off on others unless provoked. It sounds to me like your blaming Dan for everything and I'm sure if the truth be known that he was defending himself from the abuse from his neighbors. God rest his soul. I feel so badly for him no matter what this story says and I can't imagine the abuse he endured. Like I said in yesterday's comment, the problem escalated when the woman went to confront him about her grandson and she slapped him across the face. As a child we where taught, sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me. From this story I see that a lot of people need to grow up.
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I read a comment about the woman who, it seems, has had several interactions with the man at the center of this story. The comment was something to do with her character and being on welfare or something to that effect. This woman is far from being a slacker who sits around causing trouble and collecting a welfare check. I used to see her every morning, noon and night clicking the keys of a cash register for little more than minimum wage. I know that she has held some of the most difficult jobs that the writer of the derogatory comment probably would snub his/her nose at.
As far as the guy who has, by all accounts, been terrorizing the neighborhood. Oh well, too bad. He has more rights than you. The mental health system providers don't want to get sued if they actually force the issue of treatment and the police know that even if they arrest him, he will be right back out in a day or less. No judge will touch it either. Already the police are talking about arresting him for "criminal threatening" which has such a broad definition it is nearly meaningless. Again, the police know that nothing will happen to him so why waste time and energy.
When people understand that mental illness does not mean mental retardation, then perhaps a little personal responsibility will take the place of abohorent behaviors of people who have a mental illness. The person who has the illness, just like a physical illness, needs to take care of the symptoms. If a person knows that, as a result of not taking meds, going to therapy or following a plan, they will become violent/hostile to others, then that person should be held just as accountable as anyone else if they do not follow the plan. It is a providers duty to teach and inform but it is the person who has the mental illness responsibility to learn, especially if he/she is violent toward others.
Thankfully, there are very few persons who have mental illness who are violent toward others. Thankfully this person did not shoot one of those kids in the neighborhood. It would be far too late at that point. That is what, unfortunately, it will take to get the laws changed.
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