Reader's respond to editorial about college borrowing

Last week, we wrote that college-bound students and their parents need accurate information to carefully select a college that is within their financial reach.

Some schools have been accused of gaming the numbers to make their recent graduates seem more successful than they are.

We got a healthy reaction to that opinion and we’ll share a bit of that in a moment.

First, though, the editorial should not leave anyone with the impression that seeking career training or going to college is a waste of time.

The Center for Education and Workforce recently produced some eye-opening information that shows, basically, the more education a person receives, the better his or her chances of earning a decent living.

While the unemployment rate for recent college graduates with bachelor’s degrees is a disappointing 8.9 percent, it’s a crushing 22.9 percent for recent high school graduates and a catastrophic 31.5 percent for recent high school dropouts.

Still, students need to select colleges realistically with family resources and potential earnings in mind before borrowing unrealistically.

The CEW has produced a great online guide showing the earnings potential of various areas of study. (http://cew.georgetown.edu/unemployment/)

Now, for what our readers said.

Reader Mark Gravel disagreed:

Have we become that dumb as a nation where we need a government agency to guide us?

We live in an age of advanced technology. Doesn’t one simply jump on the Internet and research salary information? This information is so readily available one would be foolish not to make use of it.

I’m really ashamed to be an American if we are that stupid. Perhaps this is just another example of a failed school system. Do we even teach about compounding interest in high school anymore?

As did Mike LeBlanc of Wilton:

A large part of this problem is an antiquated “guidance” industry that tells a high school kid: Go to college or you’re a failure. And then tells a college student: Go to graduate school or you’ll be flipping burgers.

The editorial says, “Students and parents deserve accurate information.” On the other side, schools deserve to expect some level of common sense from a student, especially one who has managed to get all the way to law school; and some from his parents, if they’re paying the tab. No school, no business, no government owes you a job.

Then there was this cautionary comment from Frank Earley of Auburn:

FOR SALE: 2 college degrees, obtained in 1999, 2000.

1 is in computer electronics

1 is for computer network technology

2 or 3 A+ Certifications

Combined value, 4 pieces of paper and 50 cents might get you a cup of coffee.

Schools are more than anxious to take your money, but somehow they fail to provide the ability to keep up to date at a reasonable cost. Those degrees were obsolete before I got home from graduation.

The A+ certifications were out of date before I got to the last question on the test. They failed to inform me of the need to constantly upgrade my knowledge, as the technology changes from day to day. When you try to return to school the costs are so astronomical. Totally out of my reach.

rrhoades@sunjournal.com

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2077822587's picture
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Maybe there could be a compromise.

Its a fact that any higher education is essential. Something I learned realitivly late in life. That's not to say I wasn't making good money in my original career choice, and I tried quite a few over the years. essentially I was a truck driver. Its a good job, its very dangerous, and the hours are outrageous. The money wasn't bad though.
Eventually though I came to the realization, at the ripe old age of 44, that after twenty plus years, I wanted to work in doors, and have normal hours. Thus the higher education. I had money saved so I didn't have to borrow anything the first time around.
I found decent work doing something I enjoyed. Then came the realization that I had to continue my education to keep up with the technology. That's when I realized I just couldn't do it without putting myself into debt.Here's just one example.
I took a preparatory course for my first Microsoft A+ certification. That was maybe three to four hundred dollars plus books. The test itself was about one hundred thirty or so.
One year later I went to take the same class to prepare for the A+ test, the cost jumped to twenty one hundred dollars plus books. I ended up just buying the books and studying on my own. Upgrading my degrees was totally out of the question due to expenses. I had to live.
My idea is a collaboration of schools in one facility that would strictly be for upgrading previous training. and make the hours job friendly. and of course at an affordable rate. Unfortunately I can't work any more and will never be able to. How ever if I had been working I would have needed almost continuous education just to stay current not to mention get ahead. Even though I cant work anymore I still study computers and networking because I do love it, I just wish I could afford it.

Yellowdog's picture
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If everyone goes to college

who will be the serfs?

Let's face it, the wealthier do need mowers of grass, makers of beds and wait persons to bring their Manhattans. If everyone is educated, no one will want to do those jobs. I've even heard it said by my more conservative friends that public education past 8th grade is a waste of taxpayer money.

Consider that the happiest, most content nation in the world according to a US study is DEnmark where post secondary education for qualified candidates is paid for. I'm sure this doesn't mean every gets to go to med school - carpenters and lumbers and people who write code for computers need education too.

There are no guarantees of jobs, but I didn't hunk it was about that - or bashing teachers yet again. Oh well - lacking anything but talking points, the right does need bogeymen.

Yellowdog's picture
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plumbers

not lumbers. I never took typing in high school so I can't blame the typing teacher for my typos. :-)

tron's picture

I notice no mention of where

I notice no mention of where Mark Gravel was from. I wonder why?

mgr's picture
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Born and raised in Lisbon –

Born and raised in Lisbon – good enough?

What does this question have to do with this opinion piece?

All that said, you really need to let this issue of where I live go. It really makes for boring discussions and it is really none of your business.

Jason's picture
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Wha?

Hmmm, I think the website hiccuped.
Why is it showing you as unverified and using your old pseudonym?

2077822587's picture
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big problems this morning

It took me forever to reset my password, then have the system remember it for ten minites

Pirate's picture
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It matters?

It matters?

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