Ron Paul sweeps 'bizarre' Maine GOP convention

AUGUSTA — With Ron Paul forces at the reins, the Maine Republican Convention elected nearly all of the slate supporting the Texas congressman at the GOP national convention during a chaotic, two-day state convention that ended Sunday.

Robert F. Bukaty/Associated Press

State party chairman Charlie Webster addresses the Republican Convention to urge leaders to try to wrap up business on time rather than incur additional costs for renting the Augusta Civic Center in Augusta on Sunday.

In a series of votes highlighting the deep division within the state GOP, 23 of the 24 delegates from Maine headed to the GOP nominating convention in Tampa, Fla., will support Paul. The other delegate goes to Charles Webster, chairman of the state GOP, who has remained uncommitted throughout the process.

In addition, Paul supporters captured most of the seats on the state Republican committee, party officials said, making their takeover virtually complete.

"It's certainly a significant victory," said Jim Azzola of South Portland, Cumberland County coordinator for Paul.

Ron Paul supporters, who took over the convention Saturday after electing a convention chairman, say Maine would become the sixth state to elect a majority of Paul supporters to the national convention, assuring the libertarian-leaning congressman a prime-time podium at the Tampa gathering.

Paul finished a close second behind the presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney in Maine's GOP caucuses in February but those results were nonbinding.

Charles Cragin, a Romney supporter who lost Saturday's bid to chair the convention, called the turn of events at the Maine convention "bizarre." Cragin said the Paul-led delegation may not be recognized at the national convention because of violations of rules of procedure this weekend in Augusta.

"They have so phenomenally screwed this up that they will go to Tampa and not be seated," Cragin said.

The announcement of Maine's at-large delegates came in the wake of charges and counter-charges of ballot tampering and other indiscretions leading to the election of a Paul slate and the mainstream faction's efforts to block it.

Paul supporters accused the Romney crowd of photocopying copies of the Paul slate and substituting Romney backers to trick delegates.

"We came here to see democracy in action. We are floored by what happened, absolutely floored to see the cheating," said Elizabeth Shardlow of Auburn, a Paul activist.

Cragin said Paul supporters bent and suspended the rules of procedure in their favor, endangering the state's standing when the national convention's credentials committee reviews this weekend's delegate-selection process.

"When you have no rules, you have anarchy," Cragin said.

Another Romney supporter, delegate John Carson of Kittery, acknowledged "this is a split convention."

"The Paul supporters have had a successful process and should be congratulated on that," said Carson, a veteran of numerous state conventions. "I think it's important that the Romney camp and Paul camp come together and support a single candidate," Carson said, adding that candidate should be Romney.

The state convention was one of the best attended, with nearly 2,800 delegates, if not the best attended ever, party leaders said. Despite the division, many mainstream Republicans who were outflanked by the Paul supporters drew consolation from the injection of new energy in the party.

The takeover also resulted in numerous procedural delays and sniping between the two factions, which slowed the closing past the scheduled time and robbed the six candidates for a U.S. Senate nomination for Sen. Olympia Snowe's seat of a chance to address delegates from the podium.

"I am disappointed that the opportunity to address Republicans from throughout Maine was lost to the chaos of the convention," said one of the candidates, state Attorney General William Schneider. "I was looking forward to sharing my personal story and positions on the issues with Republicans from all 16 counties."

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Steve  Dosh's picture

Ron Paul sweeps 'bizarre' Maine GOP convention

all, 6:06 pm Monday hst
How dificult can it be to post your picture , guys ?
Stig - i gotta' facebook ® friend in Paris , Europe right now and i am trying to get that perspective . He's American and quite astute . Italy is blowing up . They killed some nuclear physicist yesterday . [ i wonder if he was with Cern . .the inventors of the internet http://www.cern.org ]
An old Chinese curse , " May you live in interesting times. " /s, Steve

Richard Begin's picture

bizarre convention observations by those who did not attend

Robert Groetzinger.

What Planet are you Existing on? As if your observation makes any sense. Robert do you not have the Slightest clue about what happened in Augusta and you know less about what is going on in the Nation

Robert how about that Jobs Report released last Week? Your president is ready for a trip to the wood shed or maybe he's on a wood pile already

Rbegin

Robert Groetzinger's picture

It is so fun to watch the GOP

It is so fun to watch the GOP treat themselves as they treat others.

Obama 4 more
And let us take control of Congress so we can finish fixing what the GOP has done to the economy,energy and taxes.

Richard Begin's picture

Bizarre convention with a Strange Twist

Jason

To Answere your rerk I have actually been involved with a few Campaigns. That may surprise you. also I noticed that you tend to rely on articles from the NY Times Ect.

That's fine but I tend to dismiss such articles.

Also Jason as the Election Rolls around things that would in a Normal Environment matter will begin not to matter at all. But will happen I believe will the quick unraveling of any support for this disaster of a President that we currently have.

Of course the White House must surely be Breathing a Pleasent Sigh of Relief now that a lefty Socialist has been elected in France now with the departuremof Mr Sarkozy.

Now when speaking about Swing States one needs to seriously examine how Swing States can be so un predictable.

Jason I have enjoyed your writings and what you think is important. But a word of Caution don't rely on the Network Media to base your Political thoughts on

What those talking Heads have to say. The elements involved here are changing from day to day

Jason Theriault's picture

Hopefully the sunjournal

Hopefully the sunjournal won't double post this...=)

Anyway, I don't rely on talking heads. I don't really watch the news, I read it from multiple sources. I would caution you as well to not be to dismissive of the NY times. The only reason I posted the link to the NY times was that they have the ability to poll which I do not.

Ok, that stuff aside, I think elections are dynamic and unpredictable. You predict a quick unraveling, which I know can happen but is unlikely. I believe your personal feelings have clouded your thoughts on it. However, it could happen. One way I could see it happening is something you even claim is in Obama's benefit: the departure of Mr Sarkozy.

Mr Sarkozy was a friend of the United States, something that Hollande doesn't seem to be. And with both France and Greece embracing less austerity, the markets seem to be nervous. This could lead to stagnation and lead credence to the republican claims that Obama hasn't helped the economy.

However, I think Romney is a poor candidate, which really is the reason I don't think he'll win.. He's biggest selling point is that he's "Not Obama". No one points to his record, just to the fact that he's not Obama. Most of the time I have heard Republican's say "We can't have 4 more years" not "Romney will fix this". And thats why he will lose.

Richard Begin's picture

why should anyone be surprised

Mr Albrecht;

I agree with you on most of what you wrote. However I decline to believe that Paul votes are a cross over to the Democratic Cause, What about that Poor Dismal Job's report?

Jason although you seem to be one of the Perennial Democratic Apologists or supporters who show up from time to time. Like a Wack -A Mole.

Of course you were responding to the Call to Arms to support Mr Roy Gedat who I believe is besides being Oxford County Treasurer is also a leading democratic Campaign organizer whose Job is to get Democrats elected.

Oh well;
As I'm on my Soap box Mr Albrecht ,

You seemed to be Mum on the Baldacci connection with those Questionable Jobs through the University of Maine System.Of course I am speaking about the John Christy and Naomi Shaleet story.

Or did I miss something?

However what occurred in Augusta is an interesting eveent. But it really is about a Earth Moving Back lash .What transpired in Augusta this weekend was really something to be examined for years to come.

In Closing 'Mr Albrecht' I always enjoy what you have to say and even if I dis agree with your position I have come to Respect You and Your well thought out ideas

keep em comin

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Jonathan Albrecht's picture

Why should anyone be surprised

We've seen this wacko lunacy before. 1964, I believe, San Fransico. D's in '72. After Charlie Webster stole the primary. The Paulistas stole the State Convention. With shouts about national victories ringing in their ears they return to the sanity of their home towns where they probably can't elect a selectman if anyone is watching. Let's be clear on what the Paulistas are offerring - international isolationism, domestic corporate supremacy, economic disaster, and social anarchy. Certainly a formula for success. Will that make an impression on the national TV coverage of the Republican Star Trek Convention in Tampa this Summer. Keep working it. Every 10 minutes Paul speaks nationally is another 1% of the vote for Democrats.

PAUL ST JEAN's picture

What the Paulistas are

What the Paulistas are offering, Jon, is the guaranteed re-election of oBAMa. You should be giddy.

Jonathan Albrecht's picture

I am, I am

Ron Paul couldn't get 40% of the vote head-on against Obama.

Richard Begin's picture

winning in November or dillusional

Jason.

Either you do not fully comprehend the mood of many many Americans or you are believing your own Dogma.

I have never for once thought that I may be Dillusional.

However how many Political Campaigns have you been involved with?

Perhaps Jason what it is that you are dillusional about is your complete lack of the Unrest that is swallowing this Nation.

It's just not about Obama and his "Confederacy of Dunces" that have formed around his decreipt Adminstration.It is far larger and enveloped than that. What I believe is taking place is a gradual major shift in the Political and social Paradigm that is occurring in America.

Now with the defeat of Sarcozy in France. America again becomes the Sole heir to common Sense and Operational Clairvoyent Land of Sole Survival.

I doubt that my argument will impact you or sway your opinion.

Jason Theriault's picture

=)

"However how many Political Campaigns have you been involved with?"

None. So I wouldn't be the person to ask about how to win an election. But I have seen a few, so I can judge on how I see this one shaping up.

And as for who's buying into who's dogma more, let me point out that my response will not contain one bit of political argument or rancor. I'm not going to argue about the views of either candidate.

Now, I'm going to assume you are disagreeing with my call that Obama will be re-elected, so I'll just assume you have no problem with my other predictions.

The NY times electoral map(which is the most recent one I have seen) shows Obama up on Romney 217 to 206.
http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/electoral-map

Now, most polls show Romney catching up, but I get the feeling that the Obama campaign has yet to open up on him, waiting for later in the election. There was alot of material put out there for the primary battles that Obama has access to. Every pot shot that Gingrich and Santorum took is fair game.

That doesn't mean that can't backfire. But from the lastest gallup polls, Romney and Obama are statically tied(slight edge to Obama) in the swing states, which is where this election will be decided.

Jason Theriault's picture

=)

"However how many Political Campaigns have you been involved with?"

None. So I wouldn't be the person to ask about how to win an election. But I have seen a few, so I can judge on how I see this one shaping up.

And as for who's buying into who's dogma more, let me point out that my response will not contain one bit of political argument or rancor. I'm not going to argue about the views of either candidate.

Now, I'm going to assume you are disagreeing with my call that Obama will be re-elected, so I'll just assume you have no problem with my other predictions.

The NY times electoral map(which is the most recent one I have seen) shows Obama up on Romney 217 to 206.
http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/electoral-map

Now, most polls show Romney catching up, but I get the feeling that the Obama campaign has yet to open up on him, waiting for later in the election. There was alot of material put out there for the primary battles that Obama has access to. Every pot shot that Gingrich and Santorum took is fair game.

That doesn't mean that can't backfire. But from the lastest gallup polls, Romney and Obama are statically tied(slight edge to Obama) in the swing states, which is where this election will be decided.

Brian Allen Small's picture

More Moonbat Fodder!

Nuff said!

FRANK EARLEY's picture

What a waste

Talk about a total waste of money.....

Richard Begin's picture

Bizarro Gop Convention

Four Years ago during the last Gop Convention. The Maine Stream Republicans or Rino's as Last Place Finisher Scott Diamboise referes them to did everything in their Power to prevent the Ron Paul Supporters from being treated as Equals . Instead of Welcoming them they decided to Humilate and alienate them.

I recall they were so eager to Nominate John MCCain that they concocted their so-called Unity Slate and ignored ken Lindell and susequently swept the Paul Istas out of the Game .

Fast forward to the Maine Caucus earlier this week. Coupled with the complete mismanagement of the Caucua Particulars and add Gomer Pyle(Charlie Webster to the Mix) Webster some Revere Charlie as a Genuis a Political Wunderkind and others can see him for what he Really is.

Someone who is in really beyond his level

Charlie is a Nice guy and a hard worker, but the Caucus Weekend was not his finest day and his subsequent appearence on the Howie Carr show really skowed Charlie as an Romney Puppe and a (Nice Oil Burner Repairman good Guy)

So No Surprise here.. Except of Course even though the Paul folks appeared to show up in Record Numbers if you examine the vote totl between Cragin and tweed only four votes seperated both sides. As we can plainly see the attendence was evenly split.

However after takijg oveer they were unable to move things along. Because they are a bunch of Amateurs and No offense Folks but many of the Folks who attended the convention including Youre's Truly went because we like to see things move according to schedul.

This Convention will rank in Maine Politicl History as one of the most dysfuntional ones ever it will be remembered like when John L Sullivan was defeated by a formidable opponet only to be recalled as the Guy who defeated the Darling John L Sullivan

But in closing my I say that divided as we were this weekend the Ron Paul Supporters of which I proudly count myself among that Group.As well as the Rpmney supporters do have one thing in Common and that is we want to do our Best to defeat Barack Obama,

Also this weekend in Augusta was truly Democracy in Action. Make no Mistake about that. I would advise the Democrats n Maine not to be fooled for ione minute about our intentions we may disagree but we all have that one thing in Common

We will win in November both Locally and Regionaly and Nationally

America can not afford four more years of Him.

Rbegin

Jason Theriault's picture

Not that simple.

"We will win in November both Locally and Regionaly and Nationally"

I think thats pretty optimistic. I'm not saying either side is gonna take it, but if you think your going to get the same results you did in 2010, I think your delusional. I think the Republican's had a decent chance of taking the Senate, but with Snowe out and Luger going down, I think it will become alot tighter. And even Boehner gives the Democrats a 1 in 3 chance to take the house.

It will be intresting.

My prediction - Dems make gains in house to prevent super majority but do not take house, Senate too close to call, but neither side will have Super Majority, Obama reelected.

Steve  Dosh's picture

Ron Paul sweeps 'bizarre' Maine GOP convention

all , 12.05.06 7 pm hst •
" We came here to see democracy in action. We are floored by what happened, absolutely floored to see the cheating," said Elizabeth Shardlow of Auburn. . . .".. . robbed the six candidates for a U.S. Senate nomination for Sen. Olympia Snowe's seat of a chance to address delegates from the podium." "They have so phenomenally screwed this up that they will go to Tampa and not be seated," Cragin said . [ n.b., " They " ]
Hmmm , kinda' like a market place in any given Middle eastern country ( i. e., a bazaar ) ? Democracy inaction ?
Many have often thought of the Maine G O P in this regard
Way too much heat and not nearly enough light . h t h /s, Steve ?

Tony Morin's picture

Hilarious

That story cracked me up!!!

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