Even with a charter review, it would not take affect till long after Gilbert would be termed out after serving his second term. So it wouldn't effect him, it would effect future mayors/councilors.
King Tom Peters circumvented the charter. What he did was illegal and for that I applaud Councilor Theriault for filing a complaint with the Maine State Bar Association. King Tom even said at the last meeting on this subject that he would find away around the mayor/charter. This is a serious violation of the law. That is unethical especially acting as a lawyer himself in the matter. The 4 members of the council that favored King Tom are just as guilty.
Robert61- Did you break the rules when you sought a legal opinion for the Peters Bros. meetings? Point is is that even if the mayor said you could make the appointments himself you would still be violating the charter and so would he. Are you going to violate the charter? I don’t think it was anything new that the mayor is the only member allowed to appoint to an ad-hoc committee? There's no grey area there.
Rinoblast- When is it OK to violate the charter and when is it OK not to? What's the sense in having a charter if you've just going to do whatever you want? The rules are there to be followed. Mayor Gilbert didn’t write them, Tom Peters didn’t write them yet they have to follow them. The council should follow the charter. The council still has more power in the matter, as in the end they are the only ones to vote on the hiring.
JDoucette- You make no sense. You’re just running your mouth trying to get Reed worked up. Unless you have something intelligent to say, don't say it. You’re really showing your true colors with your comments.
Just let the councilors recommend committee members to the mayor. Let him appoint (as the charter states) and move on. In the end the council will vote where the mayor does not get a vote. It's obviously a balance of power that was put forth when the charter was originally written. This is the way it has been done with every other ad-hoc committee.
The Charter does say that the mayor is the only member of the council that can appoint to an ad-hoc committee (which this one is) I guess each councilor can recommend a member for the committee to the mayor and then he is the only to appoint. So he is right. Anything else would be a violation of the city charter. For Tom Peters to "find a way around the charter" would be a violation. I would play by the rules. Neither party wrote the charter. It was written long before any side was elected. So the mayor is just following the rules.
sickenedlewistonian- So what you are saying is the Peters Bros. never participated in any secret meetings? Please! They are the two who formed them on the first day of this council. I applaud the 5 councilors that finally woke up and said "This isn't right" (also a violation of the charter,) and called them out on it. Tom seems to try to manipulate everyone, and when called out on his game finds others to use as his puppets to try to get this way. Even the two women couldn't be bullied by King Tom this time! Good for them!
Even with a charter review,
Even with a charter review, it would not take affect till long after Gilbert would be termed out after serving his second term. So it wouldn't effect him, it would effect future mayors/councilors.
King Tom Peters circumvented
King Tom Peters circumvented the charter. What he did was illegal and for that I applaud Councilor Theriault for filing a complaint with the Maine State Bar Association. King Tom even said at the last meeting on this subject that he would find away around the mayor/charter. This is a serious violation of the law. That is unethical especially acting as a lawyer himself in the matter. The 4 members of the council that favored King Tom are just as guilty.
Robert61- Did you break the
Robert61- Did you break the rules when you sought a legal opinion for the Peters Bros. meetings? Point is is that even if the mayor said you could make the appointments himself you would still be violating the charter and so would he. Are you going to violate the charter? I don’t think it was anything new that the mayor is the only member allowed to appoint to an ad-hoc committee? There's no grey area there.
Rinoblast- When is it OK to
Rinoblast- When is it OK to violate the charter and when is it OK not to? What's the sense in having a charter if you've just going to do whatever you want? The rules are there to be followed. Mayor Gilbert didn’t write them, Tom Peters didn’t write them yet they have to follow them. The council should follow the charter. The council still has more power in the matter, as in the end they are the only ones to vote on the hiring.
JDoucette- You make no
JDoucette- You make no sense. You’re just running your mouth trying to get Reed worked up. Unless you have something intelligent to say, don't say it. You’re really showing your true colors with your comments.
The answer is NO no cost to
The answer is NO no cost to the city.
Concerned KD- There was NO
Concerned KD- There was NO spending of money on legal fees for this issue.
Just let the councilors
Just let the councilors recommend committee members to the mayor. Let him appoint (as the charter states) and move on. In the end the council will vote where the mayor does not get a vote. It's obviously a balance of power that was put forth when the charter was originally written. This is the way it has been done with every other ad-hoc committee.
The Charter does say that
The Charter does say that the mayor is the only member of the council that can appoint to an ad-hoc committee (which this one is) I guess each councilor can recommend a member for the committee to the mayor and then he is the only to appoint. So he is right. Anything else would be a violation of the city charter. For Tom Peters to "find a way around the charter" would be a violation. I would play by the rules. Neither party wrote the charter. It was written long before any side was elected. So the mayor is just following the rules.
sickenedlewistonian- So what
sickenedlewistonian- So what you are saying is the Peters Bros. never participated in any secret meetings? Please! They are the two who formed them on the first day of this council. I applaud the 5 councilors that finally woke up and said "This isn't right" (also a violation of the charter,) and called them out on it. Tom seems to try to manipulate everyone, and when called out on his game finds others to use as his puppets to try to get this way. Even the two women couldn't be bullied by King Tom this time! Good for them!