That had been pre-determined long before the union came in. I could explain but I really don't want to name the company and I've been too long-winded all ready. No. I don't want to restrict freedom. Neither do I think dirty tricks are the way to go about it. And your responses have been a standard response when you do agree with the policies. Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black.
These comments are directed toward every union member in the state. They imply every union worker knowingly joins a union to extort money from an employer. “...extort from an employer...”
“I have never had or met even one employer who was out to exploit anyone. You can't possibly believe that. To imply that most employers do is just union propaganda.” This implies every employer, EVERY EMPLOYER, is pristine and has never done anything untoward to any employee. I have been a victim of this not once, but twice, once with a union, once without a union.
“...the real passive attitude is to pay some dues and hand your responsibilities off to others because of vague hand-waving about supporting the "workin' people". This implies all union members have no brains and cannot figure things out for themselves, they are just unthinking, ignorant lemmings. I suppose you believe that.
I worked at a place that was non-union. The workers wanted to form a union. Despite all the underhanded tricks the company attempted to prevent the vote, I still voted against forming a union, one of five negative votes. There were 39 in favor and a union was formed. I think 39-5 is fairly decisive. It's what my co-workers wanted. I joined the union. The dirty tricks didn't stop. As an example, employees found bad reviews in their folders without ever being notified they were there. The company brought in a new "manager" who wasn't a manager at all. He specialized in union-breaking. He was not successful. A few weeks later, we found out why all this was happening. The company was to be "right sized," not down sized, right sized, and the company would be free to do what ever it wanted if the union disappeared. It didn't, and as a result, those being right sized were given a decent separation package, something that probably wouldn't have happened without a union. It was to have been my last job and I retired. Didn't like it so I went back to work for another 13 years at a wonderful company, non-union, that treated it's employees wonderfully, as did two other non-union companies I worked for prior to the union job. I think you can see, for the most part, I prefer a non-union shop. But I also learned how helpful a union can be. To have an individual cast a blanket over an entire group of people, as the gentleman I was replying to did, is inexcusable, union or non-union. He is trying to move his agenda forward without regard to other people's feelings. We don't do that in Maine. At least we didn't before we got a business first governor. Just today, the papers announced our bond rating may go down, thanks to the programs of our business first governor. People (read government) need to talk with one another and come up with reasonable laws, not just say the hell with it and jam laws down our throats.
No means no...
...only when the bully governor says it is.
Hear, Hear!!!!
Well said.
True.
Unfortunately, your truth wears blinders.
You mis-typed.
It should read "...the truth as I see it." That doesn't make it the truth.
Cute.
Cute.
Oh...
...a "Na, Na, Na, Na, Na, Na" post.
It's too bad...
...Mr. Romney has decided not to take the high road.
No..
That had been pre-determined long before the union came in. I could explain but I really don't want to name the company and I've been too long-winded all ready. No. I don't want to restrict freedom. Neither do I think dirty tricks are the way to go about it. And your responses have been a standard response when you do agree with the policies. Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black.
Here's my proof...
These comments are directed toward every union member in the state. They imply every union worker knowingly joins a union to extort money from an employer. “...extort from an employer...”
“I have never had or met even one employer who was out to exploit anyone. You can't possibly believe that. To imply that most employers do is just union propaganda.” This implies every employer, EVERY EMPLOYER, is pristine and has never done anything untoward to any employee. I have been a victim of this not once, but twice, once with a union, once without a union.
“...the real passive attitude is to pay some dues and hand your responsibilities off to others because of vague hand-waving about supporting the "workin' people". This implies all union members have no brains and cannot figure things out for themselves, they are just unthinking, ignorant lemmings. I suppose you believe that.
I worked at a place that was non-union. The workers wanted to form a union. Despite all the underhanded tricks the company attempted to prevent the vote, I still voted against forming a union, one of five negative votes. There were 39 in favor and a union was formed. I think 39-5 is fairly decisive. It's what my co-workers wanted. I joined the union. The dirty tricks didn't stop. As an example, employees found bad reviews in their folders without ever being notified they were there. The company brought in a new "manager" who wasn't a manager at all. He specialized in union-breaking. He was not successful. A few weeks later, we found out why all this was happening. The company was to be "right sized," not down sized, right sized, and the company would be free to do what ever it wanted if the union disappeared. It didn't, and as a result, those being right sized were given a decent separation package, something that probably wouldn't have happened without a union. It was to have been my last job and I retired. Didn't like it so I went back to work for another 13 years at a wonderful company, non-union, that treated it's employees wonderfully, as did two other non-union companies I worked for prior to the union job. I think you can see, for the most part, I prefer a non-union shop. But I also learned how helpful a union can be. To have an individual cast a blanket over an entire group of people, as the gentleman I was replying to did, is inexcusable, union or non-union. He is trying to move his agenda forward without regard to other people's feelings. We don't do that in Maine. At least we didn't before we got a business first governor. Just today, the papers announced our bond rating may go down, thanks to the programs of our business first governor. People (read government) need to talk with one another and come up with reasonable laws, not just say the hell with it and jam laws down our throats.
Just replying...
...in kind. In case you didn't read his post, he called a lot of people a lot of names, people he doesn't even know. They were totally unfounded.