National Dirigo Health? No way.

Congress had a raucous recess this time around, suffice to say. Most representatives and senators went back to their districts to hold town hall meetings with constituents concerning reforming the health care "crisis."

Most were met with strong disapproval, to say the least, and as evidenced lately, the arrogance of the ruling class did not let us down with snide, condescending comments. Rep. Barney Frank's, D-Massachusetts said "it's like talking to a dining room table" to a constituent at a town hall, while House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called ordinary, concerned citizens "Nazis."

My question is where was the Maine delegation? There were some business round-table discussions and walks in some downtown districts, but no open town halls. The biggest issue ordinary folks with health care reform is the public option portion of this plan, yet there were no forums to listen to concerns from constituents in a face-to-face manner.

Why do Mainers have such an issue with this part of the plan? Do the words Dirigo Health mean anything to you?

How has Dirigo worked for Maine so far? On Wednesday, President Barack Obama gave his speech to let us know what he really wants in the health reform bill Congress will address in the last part of the session. The Obama administration had floated trial balloons during the break about the public option being included in the health reform package. First it was the cornerstone, but after the backlash from many Americans, it was said it would be dropped. Then in his speech, the president strongly supported a public option.

Stay tuned for the next flip flop.

The concern I have with this proposal is we are about to get national Dirigo Health. I know, libs are going to attack me as an uncaring right-wing extremist. (That's unfair. I'm not uncaring!)

First off, many catchphrases being thrown now are about the same as when our Legislature was debating Dirigo. We only want to include pre-existing conditions, open up competition for everyone, insure all people ... blah, blah, blah. The reality is Dirigo hasn't worked for Maine and will not work on a national level. In fact, we can also hold "Kentucky Care" and "Tenn Care" up as failures as well. In both of these trials, the cost consumed over 40 percent of the state budget and almost bankrupted the states.

In Maine, the estimates was Dirigo would cover the "180,000 uninsured." The reality is Dirigo never covered above 18,000 people at any one time. Nationally, there are some 20-50 million uninsured. The estimates released by the president's own experts and the CBO (Congressional Budget Office) predict that 17 million will still not be insured and will "fall through the cracks," even with a public option.

Dirigo did accomplish one objective though: drive out competition and push us toward single-payer, nationalized health care. That is the liberal objective!

I suggest going online and reading about the health care reform legislation. You will be shocked to read the legislation from Sen. Max Baucus, D-Monatana, part of the "Gang of Six" which has been working on a compromise package. (The "Gang of 6" also includes Maine's own Senator Snowe, but I digress.)

This legislation pays for the public option with many funding mechanisms. Foremast, it will repeal most of the tax cuts provided by President Bush. This sums it up: Make the "rich" pay for all of it! Who do they define as rich? The family making over $150,000 a year? This includes most small business people filing as an "S Corp." This legislation also includes the public option - aka Dirigo National - and promises to let people "keep your insurance if you want to."

Excuse me, but when did President Obama and the Congress take control over my insurance?

The only thing we can do is continue to voice our opinion, loud and clear. It may seem now that our Congressional delegation isn't listening, but the louder we get, they will have no option but to do what we the people are telling them.

Scott Lansley is chairman of the Androscoggin County Republican Committee, a former legislator and current selectman in Sabattus. E-mail:
lansley2@gmail.com.

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Govt2Big's picture
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Governor Baldacci's little

Governor Baldacci's little pet project, which is also called Dirigo Health Plan, is a great example of why a government-run health plan is a bad idea for our USA. In fact, the
Wall Street Journal even had a recent article about Dirigo titled "No Maine Miracle Cure - Another state 'public option' that failed." It's posted at
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020461900457432240181650118...
so people like tron and change can read the facts.

change's picture

The Republicans and their

The Republicans and their chair think it's OK to go nuclear and pressure,
twist and threaten elected officials and when that doesn't work they break the spirit of the rules using reconciliation for both of Bush's tax cuts for the rich. You know Byrd and Kennedy have been to ill to vote and Specter doesn't know what he is! I think its very sad and telling that you wont debate my facts or conclusions but set up straw men and spew right wing talking points while people die(including my dad because he couldn't afford health insurance) I will pray that you dont have to endure that to understand this is to serious to give Insurance companys, marketplace and Right wingers another 200 years to build our healthcare house that they constucted then corporite greed burnt down! They had their chance!

David Hughes's picture

Change, how is my pointing

Change, how is my pointing out that reconciliation is an option an endorsement of it? If you're looking for someone who is more than willing to go "nuclear", as you put it, with reconciliation than you should be looking at the people in the White House.

from back in April http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21660.html

[quote]Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) was still hesitant later to commit publicly to the so-called reconciliation language, which triggers an expedited process going around the customary 60 vote requirement to cut off debate in the Senate. But one participant said the chances were "fairly good" that Obama will get the procedural language, and Republicans are largely resigned to the president getting his way after the White House meeting.

At the White House, the president made clear that he would like this option, according to persons familiar with the discussions.
[/quote]

Reconciliation is on the table because of Obama, not because of Republicans.

Now, we can either believe that you are completely uninformed on the reconciliation issue or we can believe that you are deliberately trying to blame Republicans for something you should be blaming Democrats for. Care to tell us which it is?

Pressure is a part of politics. To suggest it is something new, one sided or even wholly undesirable is naive to an extreme.

What about that deal Obama made with the drug companies? Drug companies give up a paper 80 billion to help close the donut hole, but gain a commitment that drug price won't be negotiated by the government. I'm just not clear whether there is a deal or isn't a deal because House Progressives have emails from the Obama administration saying there is no deal and the PHArMA has similar emails saying this is a deal...and both have showed their emails to reporters. So maybe you can clear up whether there is a deal or isn't a deal for us since the administration can't seem to do that.

Or how about the idea of subsidizing the cost of private insurance coupled with an individual mandate? What sense does it make to feed the private insurance company beast with government dollars if the insurance companies are part of the problem?

Or how about the approximately 200 billion Obama wants to cut from Medicare Advantage subsidies? Care to explain how that isn't going to affect seniors who rely on those subsidies?

While you're at it, can you tell us how an additional 300 - 400 billion can be cut from Medicare without impacting service?

The problem with the paper savings of preventative care is that we do not live in a culture that values preventative care or is conditioned to seek out preventative care. The savings do not materialize in the amount they should because of that.

I'm pretty sure you won't find a right wing talking point in anything I've said. Pretty sure the right wing commentators don't realize yet that Democrats could have gone it alone without reconciliation for a brief period when everyone was healthy enough to push the "Aye" button.

Kennedy, while not well enough to work the legislation through committee was well enough to vote for it at least through the end of July and likely into the second week of August.

Byrd's health was not so bad that he couldn't make it to the Senate for a vote. Both Kennedy and Byrd had appeared in the Senate to break filibusters during their illnesses.

The fact is, the Democrats didn't need a single Republican vote and, using Obama's proposed reconciliation approach, still don't need a single Republican vote.

Tell me again how Republicans can have any blame for health insurance reform ( notice that it changed from health care to health insurance at the administrations behest ) not moving forward when the Democrats had the votes to do it without reconciliation but now that Kennedy is gone they still have the votes using the reconciliation process that the Democrats, lead by Obama's administration, laid out back in April for the very reason that they knew they couldn't count on Kennedy's vote forever.

You can blame Republicans for how we got here, and we can quibble over that if you want, but you cannot blame Republicans for obstructing reform now - the Republicans just don't have the votes to obstruct anything and the Obama administration has made sure of that.

change's picture

Wasting time talking about

Wasting time talking about the past on broadband internet $50 /explaining 59 vs 60 to Republican chair and how it pertains to fillibuster rule is free! 8yrs Bush's healthcare policies=12% > profits for Private Insurance & 4 million Americans without healthcare. The practical effect of the status qou in 2013 is Insurance Company'sprofits up 6% &2 million more uninsured Americans. The Public competition plan (the only way to fix our broken system)Thats priceless!

David Hughes's picture

Hmmm, there are 40

Hmmm, there are 40 Republicans in the Senate. Seems to me the Dems could have gotten the votes to get to 60 fairly easy. Or are you suggesting, Change, that Sen. Sanders of Vermont, the self-avowed socialist who only caucuses with the Democrats because there isn't anyone further to the left, would vote with the Republicans? Or are you suggesting the Sen. Lieberman of Connecticut couldn't be pressured into voting for cloture if his committee chairmanship was put at stake?

If the Democrats couldn't agree amongst themselves on a public option, why should Americans go along with a public option? The Democrats had the ability to pass any piece of legislation they could agree to up until Sen. Kennedy's death. Even now, without Sen. Kennedy to provide the 60th vote for cloture, the Democrats can still pass whatever measure they can agree to by a simple majority through the reconciliation process.

Blaming the powerless for the failings of the powerful is something I thought Democrats were against. Republicans have no ability to stop any health care reform the Democrats can agree to among themselves. All that is left for Republicans is grandstanding.

tron's picture

Democrats are arguing

Democrats are arguing amongst themselves because they want the best for America. They realize that not one plan is best, that a coming of the minds usually produces a better product. Republicans only concern is for themselves, not for the country or else they would FINALLY join in discussion to fix this problem. T. Roosevelt was the only Republican to realize the problems, and the party has been in denial ever since.

David Hughes's picture

160 GOP amendments to the

160 GOP amendments to the HELP committee bill and you claim the GOP isn't in the discussion? The idea of buying insurance across state lines turned into the regional insurance exchanges and you claim the GOP isn't in the discussion? Sen. Snowe putting forth a trigger for a public option, the public option that the Democrats can't get enough votes from their own party to pass and you claim the GOP isn't in the discussion?

In the immortal words of Rep. Barney Frank, "On what planet do you spend most of your time?"

Whether the Republicans are part of the discussion or not is moot. The Democrats have the votes to pass anything the Democrats can agree to. The problem is not the Republicans, the problem is the Democrats. Rahm's Blue Dogs have come back to bite and Pelosi's Poodles won't back down.

tron's picture

What planet are YOU from?

What planet are YOU from? Offering amendments is not in the discussion, it is obstructist. And the only Republican you cite as in the discussion is being vilified by your party. No, Mr. Hughes, you guys are not in the discussion, and American needs its best and brightest, anybody on your side that fits the bill and is willing to talk?

David Hughes's picture

You know Tron, I quoted Rep.

You know Tron, I quoted Rep. Frank because the implication of his words makes more sense then asking people what planet they are from. See, asking people what planet they are from has 1 of two premises - either humans from Earth somehow got to another planet and took root or god ( notice the lower case ) made things such that Humans are either the natural result of evolution or God ( notice the big case ) made humans on more than 1 planet. Frank, by posing the question as which planet you spend most of your time on, doesn't fall into the trap of posing a question based on a premise that is either obviously faulty or a matter of faith. There is the none trivial matter of how a current human from Earth would get to another planet to spend time there but Frank's question is better than the other since it is possible, through not done yet, to get a current human to another planet with current technology. Not that you care for any of this digression into language and implication.

The 160 amendment weren't obstructions, they were legit amendments that got put into the bill. Or are you suggesting that the Democrats would agree to put obstructionist amendments into their own health care bill? That would be an odd position to take.

I have to ask...are you implying that Sen. Snowe isn't one of the "best and brightest"? Whether hard right Republicans vilify her or not is about as relevant as the hard left vilifying Sen. Baucus.

So what say you Tron? Is buying insurance across state lines a good idea or a bad idea? Is it only a good idea if it is within the context of regional exchanges or is it good in any context? That is the Republican idea in the bill - buying health insurance across state lines. The question is whether it is limited to exchanges or if it is wide open. Given that the idea is one of the important pieces of the legislation it really is hard to fathom how anyone can say Republicans aren't contributing.

Should there be an individual mandate or not? Again, Republican idea that is under serious consideration.

The problem here Tron, is that things just aren't as you want them to be. There are a number of core ideas that are from the Republican camp already in the discussion. The question is what an implementation of those idea would look like. Obama isn't lying when he says that there is broad bipartisan agreement on 80% of this. It's the details that the argument is about.

David Hughes's picture

Change, I've got one

Change, I've got one question. When the Democrats held 60 Senate seats, before Kennedy's death, overwhelming majority in the House and the Presidency why is it they couldn't agree on a health care reform package and pass it?

Even after Kennedy's death the Democrats can still pass any health care reform bill they want without a single Republican vote.

The problem isn't the Republicans, the problem is that Democrats can't even agree on something. Blaming Republicans is just putting smoke in front of that one simple fact.

change's picture

14,000 a day lose their

14,000 a day lose their Insurance and the same amount die from lack of insurance a year.
Healthcare for people or profit for princes! The Right wing couldn't win at the voting booth, floor vote or public opinion so they obstructed any stable funding source to ensure its failure. States don't have the buying and political power to do this on their own. I hope you all consider you may be in either group before you fight against reform, 4 million more Americans had insurance before President Bush was elected and they thought they were covered. If in 4 years no public option(competition for private insurance) has covered them and premiums have doubled again odds are that when you need help the Right wing wont care about you either. Imagine the public option is successful and the result for the Right Wing is they wont win congress for another 30 years(like when medicare was created) and that scares them to death. Healthcare for you or wealth for the wealthy you decide!

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