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Where's freedom of choice?
In response to Pamela Matzinger's letter, "No more Spaghetti" (Oct. 11), let me say that one good thing about spaghetti in this country is I have the right to choose whether or not to eat it (and I like spaghetti). Obviously, national health care reform legislation isn't about spaghetti; it's about providing affordable health care coverage, right?
A few months ago, I read through the main points of the health care reform bill located online. A troubling thing was the vagueness of the legislation. It seemed as if we should just accept this and the details will be worked out later.
I don't think so.
Another troubling thing was my being forced to get coverage. Where's freedom of choice? That should stay in place.
Here's a better way to stimulate me, an uninsured. How about providing direct government funding, let's say a check of sorts for insurance coverage, and letting me choose the coverage? How about the government getting directly involved with the insurance and pharmaceutical companies to provide lower premiums and costs?
Let's eat spaghetti if we want to and choose the insurance coverage that meets our needs without this administration making us do both.
Louise H. Griffin, Auburn
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verified "Canadians do not come to
"Canadians do not come to the U S for their medical treatments as far as we know." is not true. Since President Obama has taken office over 17,000 Canadians have come to the U.S. for treatment.
verified The Military is well run and
The Military is well run and it is what Govt. does best. Everything else they do is drowning in red ink. National health insurance will not be any different. AND STOP CALLING IT HEALTH CARE. EVERYBODY GETS HEALTH CARE...IT'S HEALTH INSURANCE... HEALTH INSURANCE...GET IT RIGHT.
(Damn parrot took over the keyboard while I took a bathroom break. Sorry about that.
verified Currently there are about 50
Currently there are about 50 million U.S. residents are without health coverage. When the plan is completely in place in 2019, 25 million will still be without coverage. Of those 25 million, 17 million would be U.S. citizens or legal immigrants. The plan is estimate to cost $829 billion over 10 years. The government will spend about $3300 per individual per year for coverage. The government could probably purchase the insurance directly from insurance companies for about half that amount. With the saving, then be able to insure the remaining 25 million people.
verified Your plan will never fly.
Your plan will never fly. Makes wayyy too much sense.
verified Gil, You joke. I think we
Gil, You joke. I think we all know she's intelligent and she's created a great job for her attacking good government and liberals. Now why is that. She knows the right will buy any nonsesical lie so the more she lies she tells the more money she makes. Russ is up to $400 million. Right.
Louise, everything you want in the Health Care Reform legislation is there. Requiring everyone to have some form of insurance makes the same sense that requiring car insurance does.
Why does it do it now? Because the insurance co stated that they would oppose reform unless everyone was required to have insurance. Now that they have revealed their two-faced dealings on the issue. I hope we can get back to a robust, voluntary, public option or extended Medicare to all with tiered premiums.
Jon Albrecht Dixfield
verified Mandatory car insurance
Mandatory car insurance makes REAL sense. Is that why we're all required by law to carry uninsured motorist coverage? So, mandatory health care coverage will require that we all carry coverage for those who won't buy it, is that right? And we think the Govt. is going to run this honestly and effeciently, too; right? And Brad and Jen were never really married, right? What a freakin' joke.
You need to ask yourself a
You need to ask yourself a few questions - "When has the US government ever forced it's citizenry to buy a good or service under threat of penalties and jail time?" If you can't answer that then try this one - " Why are they doing it now?"
"There are a lot of bad republicans; there are no good democrats." Ann Coulter
verified Gee Rex, welcome to the den
Gee Rex, welcome to the den of inequity. Do you wear your liberalism as a badge of honor? (My parrot was just wondering)
And another shining example
And another shining example of liberal logic. You can't answer the question, so attack something else. like an intelligent woman, which scares liberal men.
"There are a lot of bad republicans; there are no good democrats." Ann Coulter
verified Virtually everyone is
Virtually everyone is required to purchase Social Security and Medicare. Oops another gil statment proven wrong.
Wrong Dan, you do not
Wrong Dan, you do not purchase either of those, you are taxed to fund them, a big difference. Along the same lines as the lib proposed health care though. All three are funded at the point of the gun, all three are government run, all three are doomed to failure, all three are lib ideas.
"There are a lot of bad republicans; there are no good democrats." Ann Coulter
Taxes are a percentage of
Taxes are a percentage of your income to provided needed government services, like the military. How you can not see the difference in that and being told you will buy INSURANCE or be FINED? You can't seriously be that incredibly stupid.
"There are a lot of bad republicans; there are no good democrats." Ann Coulter
verified Of course there is no
Of course there is no difference, but gil likes to use semantics to prove to himself that he's not wrong. He hates to ever admit he's wrong, which is understandable considering he usually is.
This coming from someone who
This coming from someone who has never offered a shred of proof on any of the lies he spins on here. Aside from the fact that he is a coward who won't back his mouth up with actions.
"There are a lot of bad republicans; there are no good democrats." Ann Coulter
verified You think Uncles Sam should
You think Uncles Sam should just write you a check for whatever insurance you want? No strings?
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Franklin D. Roosevelt
Does this post mean that Lil
Does this post mean that Lil Duke has changed her ways? Please tell us that you're now against forced (at gunpoint) income redistribution.
No LIl, actually many of us
No LIl, actually many of us are fed because thats what Uncle sam currently does for too many people, including illegals...
verified Robt - I must have missed
Robt - I must have missed the part about Christ checking for 'green cards' when He had His apostles distribute the loaves and fishes.
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When I was a young Sailor - I drank like a Sailor, fought like a Sailor, and screwed like a Sailor. Now that I am old and wise - I have a few scars, but many fond memories.
Veritas, the apostles and
Veritas, the apostles and the people weren't lining up EXPECTING they would get something. Big difference to what we see today. Christ also said " I will make you fishers of men"....try doing that with those firmly entrenched in welfare benefits today.
verified Au contraire, Robert. They
Au contraire, Robert.
They certainly did line up with the expectations they were getting something.
Better go back and read your Bible.
And our present day "Fishers of Men?" and Women? Luring them across the border for the menial jobs at substandard pay. They're hardly coming up for the welfare benefits. 'Americans' take that rather than the jobs offered by many corporations.
Tell us the extent to which you interacted with migrants.
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When I was a young Sailor - I drank like a Sailor, fought like a Sailor, and screwed like a Sailor. Now that I am old and wise - I have a few scars, but many fond memories.
I didn't think Marxists
I didn't think Marxists believed in God! First Lil Duke and now dolositas changing his ways. It's a miracle I tell ya, a miracle!
verified Hulk - going to tell us of
Hulk - going to tell us of your patriotic military service there???
You keep ignoring that issue.
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When I was a young Sailor - I drank like a Sailor, fought like a Sailor, and screwed like a Sailor. Now that I am old and wise - I have a few scars, but many fond memories.
Now Louise, you sound like
Now Louise, you sound like one of those wild, unruly, rabid tea party people who refuse to accept that the politicians know more that you how to run your life. They have a better way to plan your health care and spend your tax dollars. You don't have to worry about anything, the state and federal gov't agencies with take care of everythng for you.
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Ronald, I do rail about debt
Ronald,
I do rail about debt growth, but the intention of this thread was to show Alan how the government is currently overarching its span of control. That is, how successful (or unsuccessful) the government manages its programs.
My healthcare arguments have never supported the current cost structure. My healthcare arguments have more to do with oBamaCare being the wrong solution, and in general, government controlled healthcare being the wrong solution. Anyhow, that is a topic for another day.
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George Bush in September 2008
when the stock market started crashing is the one who bailed the banks out by creating TARP in October 2008. During that fateful week of September 2008, a half a TRILLION dollars was taken out of the money markets (offshore? Must have been because to this day no one has been arrested for the electronic run on the banks that day!) in 90 minutes. The Federal Reserve pushed $180 BILLION dollars onto the market to stave off a total collapse. It worked temporarily, but then Bush said it was time to bail the banks out. He created a $753 BILLION dollar TARP (protects ya from the bad weather!) bailout and before he left office, he took $353 billion and gave it out to the Big Banks without strings attached. The Big Banks went wild with their new found money! In fact, after Obama won in November 2008, the Big Banks were on a high again and when Obama in early 2009 after being sworn in started adding strings to the bailout money, that's when the republicans of the nation started calling him a big meaning to the banks.
Guess how much Bush's TARP has cost Americans so far? $7 TRILLION DOLLARS. Had George Bush decided to give every single American who filed a tax return in 2007 a $50,000 check, our nation would have flourished and he would have been a hero leaving his presidency, but he didn't do that. Sad.
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Irresponsible Tax Cuts
Grow the size of debt and interest payments - Exactly what you are railing against.
Your insurance (mob) based health care is costing you about twice the percentage of GDP than a national health care system is.
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