Trust the president

It was good to read the "Our view" column Oct. 12. That view expressed my thoughts about President Barack Obama. I trust him and I want him to be successful in all the good policies and plans that he has for our people and people everywhere.

He has been accused of being a "community organizer." I heard Mark Shields, a favorite reporter of mine from the "News Hour" on PBS, say that "Christ was a community organizer." He was crucified.

Rush Limbaugh, Mitch McConnell, Glenn Beck and Lou Dobbs would proverbially crucify the president because he threatens the lobbyists who buy votes.

I trust Sen. Olympia Snowe. Each time I've sought her help or expressed my views in a letter, she has answered.

Joanna Walsh-Ward, Lewiston

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Jamey's picture

Wow! Your response surely

Wow! Your response surely shows you are of much higher intellegence rpsnomore. Thank you for showing your true intellec by countering with a sophmoric insult. "We'll just take it as an indication that you are a really stupid person. OK?" I'll speak in your language....Baaaa Baaaa. Keep grazing Rpsnomore

RpsNoMore's picture

"Please dont take my

"Please dont take my laughing spell as an indication of republican or democrate or any other affiliation............."

We'll just take it as an indication that you are a really stupid person. OK?

RpsNoMore's picture

"HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

"HA HA HA HA HA HA HA .........Soryy I cant get by the title......."Trust the President"............HA HA HA HA HA HA HA........Oh my God, my stomach hurts...............gotta stop laughing........"

This is what an intellectually incurious, politically ignorant person offers when they have absolutely nothing to offer. Animals at least have a reason for making noise.

Jamey's picture

Please dont take my laughing

Please dont take my laughing spell as an indication of republican or democrate or any other affiliation.............I dont trust any of them and quite frankly I am laughing more at any one who does.....Are you serious? I will put more faith in a hungry great white not eating me after having an open wound in the water for 20 mins than trust a politician. But I guess sheep will always be sheep.

Jamey's picture

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA .........Soryy I cant get by the title......."Trust the President"............HA HA HA HA HA HA HA........Oh my God, my stomach hurts...............gotta stop laughing........

Gil's picture

Wow, Joanna, Drink the

Wow, Joanna, Drink the kool-aid much?
"There are a lot of bad republicans; there are no good democrats." Ann Coulter

RpsNoMore's picture

"the democrats' suicidal

"the democrats' suicidal path to outright socialism in America, which will lead to its ultimate destruction, is the right answer, either."

The problem is you don't understand the difference between socialism and oligarchy. The Republican party is far closer to oligarchy than the Democratic party to socialism.

Get a dictionary please, and use it.

RpsNoMore's picture

"Obama ran as a moderate.

"Obama ran as a moderate. Now that he's been elected , he's governing as a far left liberal."

Untrue. The fact is that the Republican party is so far right it is floating somewhere in the Atlantic at this point. President Obama is delivering on a campaign promise to revise an out-of-control medical insurance system that since Republicans trashed health care reform in 1995, increased rates by 300 percent.

Also wingnuts, President Obama is prudently withdrawing from Iraq and committed 30,000 troops to Afghanistan, and Guantanamo is still open. So at some point you have to realize that your points are merely designed to fire the synapses of right wingnuts, nothing more because they're not based in reality.

What Republicans are doing to people like you is "rallying the base." Oh what a "base" it is. The current Republican party is a corpse that is eating itself.

RpsNoMore's picture

"Tron, the President

"Tron, the President admitted that the public option will eliminate private insurance."

If you believe that you've been watching AND believing Fox wingnut news! Hey, while we're at it ... I got a letter from a European Prince and he just needs a little seed money to transfer a vast fortune to America, and I'll cut you in, if you just offer the fee ...

What do you say? He's a Republican, that prince.

rstonge's picture
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Didn't get it from Fox. Did

Didn't get it from Fox. Did my own research.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk

RpsNoMore's picture

Jamey, you wrote: "I am just

Jamey, you wrote:

"I am just going to sit back and watch our current pide piper lead the mindless in tow and shake my head."

Keep shaking your head as rational people turn from consideration of you as an active participant in Democracy. Are you able to grasp cause and effect? We have two wars going on because of a deceitful, ignorant, incompetent, retarded little sliver spoon Eastern blueblood masquarading as a retarded toy cowboy, George W. Bush, and he created the worst debt and worst economy since the Great Depression.

You keep shaking your head honey. Maybe it'll fall right off. That'll do you some good.

RpsNoMore's picture

It's the vicious, irrational

It's the vicious, irrational Republican "right" that shuts down debate and lies because they cannot offer substantive points (eg. Republicans still have no alternative health care plan):

Now, with the healthcare reform issue, for instance, in Austin, Texas, rational people have seen seen the GOP shut down public dialogues so that no constituents can dialogue with their representatives. In fact, GOP Travis County Chair, Rosemary Edwards bragged in an opinion article submitted to the Austin American-Statesman about her participating in “shouting down” Representative Lloyd Dogget, who agreed to meet with constituents and answer questions about the reform bill.

No dialogue could take place–as those who attended swamped the paper with accounts of not being able to even hear the questions asked. In other words, in their vigor to express their free speech at their disagreement with the package, they effectively banned all other citizens and constituents from being able to enjoy that same freedom. I’m all for freedom of expression–but when the exercise of that freedom bars others from exercising that same right–then you’ve overstepped your “rights.”

Meanwhile, while we have important issues to iron out in reform, we’re being inundated with ridiculous red herrings like “Death Panels,” “Tax covered abortion,” and “socialist conversion of the nation.” I notice that whenever critics express their concerns in these more irrational points, they never fail _to fail_ to provide sources or references to support their claims. Time and again, when I see replies posted, the people responding to such ludicrous criticisms _do_ offer references to sections of the bill where anyone can go and read the more nutty GOP concerns discredited.

RpsNoMore's picture

“What would happen if

“What would happen if students in public schools were consistently taught the importance of believing things based on evidence and reasoned arguments, not faith or slavish adherence to tradition or authorities?”

School board meetings would become as loony as townhalls, and home-schooling would skyrocket. (This would probably bifurcate higher education as well, into reality-based and faith-based institutions.)

“Who would be able to object without looking completely foolish?”

I really don’t think they care about that. If I may be permitted a bit of snark, many of them believe in all sorts of ridiculous things: talking snakes, the sun stopping in the sky, worldwide floods, Satanic fossils, and 3=1. There is a strong anti-intellectual bias at work, and it’s pretty much impervious to public opinion

RpsNoMore's picture

This tendency to simply deny

This tendency to simply deny inconvenient facts and invent a fantasy world isn't new; it's only becoming more heightened. It ran through the Bush years like a dash of bourbon in water. When it became clear that Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction, the US right simply claimed they had been shipped to Syria. When the scientific evidence for man-made global warming became unanswerable, they claimed – as one Republican congressman put it – that it was "the greatest hoax in human history", and that all the world's climatologists were "liars". The American media then presents itself as an umpire between "the rival sides", as if they both had evidence behind them. ...

How do they train themselves to be so impervious to reality? It begins, I suspect, with religion. They are taught from a young age that it is good to have "faith" – which is, by definition, a belief without any evidence to back it up. You don't have "faith" that Australia exists, or that fire burns: you have evidence. You only need "faith" to believe the untrue or unprovable. Indeed, they are taught that faith is the highest aspiration and most noble cause. Is it any surprise this then percolates into their political views? Faith-based thinking spreads and contaminates the rational.

RpsNoMore's picture

Many observers have been

Many observers have been flabbergasted at the state of American conservatism today: significant percentages of conservatives, Republicans, and evangelical Christians — mostly whites in the South — believe utterly ridiculous and even insane things for no clear or good reason. What could possibly explain the ready belief in things like Barack Obama not being an American citizen, the proposed creation of death panels, the existence of a death book, etc.?

Well, where else do we find people readily accepting and promoting belief in strange, bizarre claims without the benefit of evidence or reason? Easy: religion.

These increasingly frenzied claims have become so detached from reality that they often seem like black comedy. The right-wing magazine US Investors' Daily claimed that if Stephen Hawking had been British, he would have been allowed to die at birth by its "socialist" healthcare system. Hawking responded with a polite cough that he is British, and "I wouldn't be here without the NHS".

RpsNoMore's picture

"A president that once said

"A president that once said he welcomed a dissenting view now wants only one view."

Dissent and offering absolute lies as Fox wingnut news does are two different things. Death panels is merely one among an endless number of lies by Fox and the "right."

Jamey's picture

Wow. I stayed away because I

Wow. I stayed away because I got tired of endless winless arguements. I got tired of watching the left for 8yrs call the president a nazi, hitler, idiot, and anyother thing that suits their day. They insult the right, point fingers all the while calling themselves the enlightened ones. The new God is elected and suddenly anyone and everyone who disagrees or gives him the SAME TREATMENT Bush got and they are a racist, stupid, right wing zealots, etc. Do you people have that short term of a memorie? Anyway keep buying the roller coaster ride of give it away and make me pay system. By the way I have never trusted ANY gov in office. Anyone who actually believes they have our best intrests is an idiot. Yes an idiot. We will see when the dust settles and all of these wonder programs that are in effect going to kill the remaining people who do work and put into the system. When we are taxed to death and there is no more to pull, how will you fund it then? Cant give anymore away if you cant take anymore can you? I am just going to sit back and watch our current pide piper lead the mindless in tow and shake my head.

MomOfTwo's picture

dr. duh are you talking

dr. duh are you talking about health care or Afghanistan?

Barb's picture

A president that once said

A president that once said he welcomed a dissenting view now wants only one view. His. What happened to this president that loved freedom of speech?. The secrets of the Obama administration and all the commie loving czars is coming to light. Ask chairman Anita. Can you imagine Bush waging a war against MSNBC? Really think about this. Trying to silence the opposition. Do we now live in a communist country? If you march in lock step with Obama then that's acceptable but if you don't agree then your threatened. I know that Obama and his cronnies will do their best to shut down any opposing view. The last one to wage a war against the press was Nixon and that didn't turn out to well. While school kids chant MM MMM MM yellow black brown or white all is equal in his sight. They brainwash the children to bow down to their self proclaimed God.

Scotty_O's picture

If he's so smart, why is he

If he's so smart, why is he not dealing with the economy that's in the dumps? Put out the grease fire on the stove before fixing the leaky faucet.

RpsNoMore's picture

"And a stimulus package

"And a stimulus package which is only stimulating the CHINESE economy as we owe them the debt service."

The Bush administration did a fantastic job of making China strong over the past eight years! Nice how they didn't deal with trade imbalances.

Thankfully we have an honest, brilliant President for a change.

RpsNoMore's picture

Robert61, You demonize

Robert61,

You demonize Unions when entire industries have been shipping jobs overseas or digging the American worker into a hole! Republicans trashed health care reform in 1995 and did NOTHING while a thievish industry raised its premiums 300 Percent while enjoying exemptions from anti-trust laws.

Your mindset is anti-middle class and you clearly don't understand what made America great: fairness for the majority, not deceit and power for those who can afford it.

You want to save money? Stop American health insurance companies from driving America's competitiveness into the ground! Stop the waste, fraud and abuse in the military procurment system! That alone will save hundreds of billions of dollars!!

Why do you despise the American middle class?

Did you know that we've opened up the biggest gap between wealthy and everyone else since the Guilded Age, thanks to eight years of George W. Bush, the worst President in the history of America.

RpsNoMore's picture

Fox isn't even news. Don't

Fox isn't even news. Don't talk "verify" when the Bush administration lied America into a war for oil based on lies. Not that's the apex of deceit! Wingnut!

rstonge's picture
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RpsNoMore, if I remember

RpsNoMore, if I remember correctly all the other news outlets reported the same. What you are forgetting is that the original liar was Saddam. He admitted that he lied and acted like he had the weapons. He figured that the U.S. would not invade and that he could survive an aerial assault. The reason Saddam said he lied was his fear of Iran.

Robert61's picture

Reagan had it right - "trust

Reagan had it right - "trust but verify"...Its the verifying thats proving what a poor president Mr. Obama is turning out to be, selling us all down the river for SOCIALIZED healthcare, bailing out all the unions such as auto industry (he didn't do it for the owners LOL). And a stimulus package which is only stimulating the CHINESE economy as we owe them the debt service.

RpsNoMore's picture

"the democrats' suicidal

"the democrats' suicidal path to outright socialism in America, which will lead to its ultimate destruction"

Apparently you've been watching Fox wingnut news. The Bush administration was a rush to disaster. We'll be trying to fix those disasters for a long time. Republicans are a plague upon America.

RpsNoMore's picture

Thankfully we have an

Thankfully we have an honest, pro-middle class, pro-growth, intelligent and hard working President in Barack Obama now in office. We're seeing a competent President clean up after eight years of incompetence, lies and failure. That's all Republicans can do. As for ignorant individuals who voted for George W. Bush, a little blue blood masquarading as a toy cowboy, they are merely expressing their own self-loathing. Republicans are ignorant people who prefer failure, which is all they can deliver anyway.

rstonge's picture
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RpsNoMore, you are right

RpsNoMore, you are right about President Obama. He is intelligent. He knows that he visited 57 states while running for office. He is so intelligent that he doesn't even know how many men took the oath of office before him. He was smart enough to pick a VP that doesn't know who was President in 1929 or how many letters in the word JOBS. He is so smart that his VP and Secretary of State didn't think he was qualified. He is so smart that he could tell people he had socialist views and they didn't believe him. He is so smart that his administration didn't bother to vet their czar's properly.

citrus's picture

Yeah its called socialism

Yeah its called socialism

RpsNoMore's picture

"where are the jobs that he

"where are the jobs that he promised?"

Just the fact that President Obama halted what Bush did to slide America into the second Great Depression is a miracle! Republicans did nothing but allow American industries to collapse. Obama is recapitalizing American industry in a way that narrow minded Republicans didn't. Thankfully.

Robert61's picture

halted? you're joking right?

halted? you're joking right? Unemployment has GROWN since Obama took office, check the records...and then add the greater number of people who have exhausted their unemployment benefits.

citrus's picture

Obamas white house

Obamas white house communications director
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ7bjoIu7s4

tron's picture

Wow, I've listened to the

Wow, I've listened to the original quote, and it was informative and benign, but seeing this perversion done by Glenn Beck, I now understand why you right wing wackos are so incense. This Beck is a dangerous fellow, he employs communist propaganda techniques to their finest.

Pirate's picture
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Ol' Beck took care of Van

Ol' Beck took care of Van Jones, didn't he? Hope he gets the rest of that rat pack of obama's one at a time. Commie bastards.

nmcssc's picture
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Makes me so warm and fuzzy

Makes me so warm and fuzzy to hear you all express your true devotion to Obama. where are the jobs that he promised? Where is his concern for the military, who by the way do not love him as most of you think. Especially the ones who are out there fighting and wondering how he is going to get them killed. Yes I do have loved ones fighting this war. Time Obama stopped blaming Bush and actually tried to do something instead of campaign like he has been doing for the last 10 months.

Big Love's picture

Haven't you heard, nmcssc?

Haven't you heard, nmcssc? We need another swindle-us package.
______________
"A liberal is a person with two perfectly good legs who develops bed sores while waiting for a conservative to carry her around."
Big Love

Pirate's picture
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Busho..you have a point

Busho..you have a point (about the Republicans in power). However, that doesn't mean that the democrats' suicidal path to outright socialism in America, which will lead to its ultimate destruction, is the right answer, either.

Fear not the enemy at the gate, for it is the enemy within that will devour you.

Scotty_O's picture

I think we should switch

I think we should switch from waterboarding to listening to NPR as a form of torture. The contributors have the personalities of wet mops and their monotone reverberations would make even the most hardened terrorist drop to their knees. My car stereo pukes C.D.'s whenever the seek button finds them on the dial.

Pirate's picture
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monotone reverberations...as

monotone reverberations...as in fair and boring?

Scotty_O's picture

More like I want to light

More like I want to light off M-80's in my ear canals.

exoggensani's picture

ok here is a good example of

ok here is a good example of one of the things I don't see right, one of many.

They are saying there will be no increase in Social Security this coming year. In 2009 the increase for most was $20 a month.

Now, Obama says that he wants to give all the people on Social Security a one time check in January of $250.

Can you do the math?

Daymnnibmem's picture

Jalb How about Government

Jalb
How about Government run health care?
How about cap & trade?
Your brain is so tilted to the left, you'll never see whats really going on.

jalbrecht1's picture
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There goes Denny1 again with

There goes Denny1 again with his unfounded conclusions. How has Obama changed from a campaigning moderate to a far left liberal? Never happenned. He has continued most of Bush's programs. Now that's radical. He hasn't even proposed a budget. His foreign policies have been consistent with post-WWII American policies which only Bush deviated from in radical ways. What's far let liberal about Obama.
Its a mistake to think the Hannity, Russ, and Beck are morons. They are not. They are very sofisticated propagandists. They do their job very well. Just read Denny1's post and you can see why. He can't name a far left liberal policy Obama has adopted but he is certain that he is because the propagandists told him so. Who's the moron.
Jon Albrecht Dixfield

rstonge's picture
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1. Health care reform 2.

1. Health care reform
2. Cash for Clunkers
3. Auto industry bailout where the debtors where ignored and the companies given to the unions
4. Appointment of extreme left wing ideologues
5. Supreme Court Justice selection

just to name a few

tron's picture

Let's go over your list: 1.

Let's go over your list:

1. Health care reform
originally proposed by Teddy Roosevelt, a republican

2. Cash for Clunkers
An incentive to get people to buy more efficient automobiles and give the auto industry a shot in the arm, kinda worked didn't it?

3. Auto industry bailout where the debtors where ignored and the companies given to the unions
The debtors would have received virtually nothing if the companies had collapsed, and the unions did not receive the companies, just the truth next time

4. Appointment of extreme left wing ideologues
You mean moderate people who don't agree with your right wing wacko mindset

5. Supreme Court Justice selection
You mean a Justice who was first appointed by George Bush, the senior, and had received huge approvals all three times her nominate to judgeship's came up?

Sorry, but you'll have to do much better than that.

rstonge's picture
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1. Socializing health care

1. Socializing health care is radical.
2. Auto sales down 40% in September. Cash for Clunkers was a short term boost.
3. Auto union ended up with a 55% stake in Chrysler
4. Van Jones self proclaimed Communist
5. and yes, Judge Sotomayor since those votes has proven she is willing to legislate from the bench.

tron's picture

1. Calling what's going

1. Calling what's going through Congress "Socialize" health care is a stretch. Calling it radical is perhaps more kind, but something "radical" has to be done, you just don't agree with the way it is being done. If you and your brethren would stop damming up the progress and engage in the process, perhaps we could find the best method of change.

2. Short term boost is better than none. Anyways comparing figures in a down economy is tenuous.

3. Union ownership on face value is high, but if you look into the reality you'll discover it is transitory and illusionary.

4. ONE person out of thousands who endorsed MARXIST ideals, not communist, and only went as far as joining a panel. But still, one person.

5. Prove where the Justice legislated from the bench. And don't use the firefighters case, because in that case she used precedent established by the SC in her decision and the SC was the one who changed their minds and legislated from the bench. So give me a real case where she legislated from the bench.

Robert61's picture

wow tron, argue your point

wow tron, argue your point and then tell the opposition they can only argue theur point with a hand tied behind their back, how gentile of you...telling someone what they can or cannot argue points of simply proves their case is stronger than yours, which was already obviously to many of us.

rstonge's picture
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1. Saying that a government

1. Saying that a government run health care is socialized health is a "stretch", may be if your a socialist it is.
2. What numbers do you want to use?
3. Prove it
4. How about Jennings? Geithner?
5. Sorry, the firefighters is a valid case. The U.S. Supreme Court said that the New Haven fire fighters were "unfairly denied promotions".

tron's picture

Absolutely no one is

Absolutely no one is proposing that the government run health care. So there goes your argument.

Numbers from a month comparable to the economic situation we're in

I just did, but you refuse to accept it.

I guess from the extreme right wing wacko arm of the republican party any moderate or left of moderate is considered "extreme left wing ideologues", so the ain't much I can say about that.

Judge Sotomayor followed the precedence of FORMER Supreme Courts in the firefighters ruling. The CURRENT Supreme Court changed the law of the land with their ruling. She could not win with you guys. If she had ruled the way you wanted she would have been guilty of judicial activism. She followed precedence and she's slammed by you guys. Sometimes you guys should stay in bed, that's the only way to please yourselves.

rstonge's picture
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what do you thing the public

what do you thing the public option is?

tron's picture

Get thee to a dictionary and

Get thee to a dictionary and look up the word option. It should explain everything, unless the right wing wackos have changed the definition of the word.

rstonge's picture
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Tron, the President admitted

Tron, the President admitted that the public option will eliminate private insurance. So if the private insurance is gone, and all that is left is the public option. What is the other option?

Robert61's picture

Public option has already

Public option has already been defined as a plan replacing all private healthcare whether it be rivately paid or thorugh an insurer..the program itself is the option for Congress to consider, its an one option of many....its all or nothing, but Tron doesn;t get it because he already has public healthcare for free.

Pirate's picture
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Limbaugh, McConnell, Beck,

Limbaugh, McConnell, Beck, and Dobbs are morons? That's all you can say about them, morons? Do you know any other parlor tricks, Rex? My parrot thinks "YOU'RE a moron, but he tends to be unfair at times. After all, he doesn't even know you.

rstonge's picture
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you forgot Chris "thrill

you forgot Chris "thrill runs up my leg" Matthews.

Daymnnibmem's picture

Obama ran as a moderate. Now

Obama ran as a moderate. Now that he's been elected , he's governing as a far left liberal.
He has surrounded himself with far left people. People who have strong convictions of wealth
redistribution are in his adminstration. Commentators like Beck and Limbaugh are exposing
what the true Obama is like. Van Jones, Acorn now chairman Mao admirier Anita Dunn, the White House communications director, who by the way is the lead hatchet thrower at Fox News. FOX news ratings are higher than ever, because America getting the truth.

rstonge's picture
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Denny one small correction.

Denny one small correction. Yes, the President portrayed himself as a moderate, but he did admit to Joe that he had extreme liberal ideas. It is just most of the people didn't hear him or those who heard him didn't believe him.

jojolou's picture

What are you in, a bubble?

What are you in, a bubble? Obama has been losing popularity every time he opens his mouth. Glenn Beck brought out Van Jones and where is Van Jones now. Obama wants to be judged by the people he associates with, come on, look who he associates with.
Open your eyes and see that he wants us to bow down to him.What has he done since in office? NOTHING. God bless us all.

Mac antSaior's picture
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They're going to crucify

They're going to crucify him?!!! Really? Can we also crucify Reid and Pelosi on either side of him... you know... the theives? Hey, I'll bring the popcorn!

It is the undauntable thought, my friend. The one that says, "I'm right!" ~Bobby Sands

Old Bill's picture

And I'll bring the hammer

And I'll bring the hammer and nails!
"The democracy will cease to exist when the government takes from those who would work and gives to those who would not." - Thomas Jefferson.

Scotty_O's picture

Rex, where are you getting

Rex, where are you getting your information, the Huffington Post?

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