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Madore says marriage is part of broader gay agenda

AUGUSTA — Longtime anti-gay activist Paul Madore on Wednesday warned Mainers that voting on Election Day to uphold the law allowing same-sex marriage would further normalize homosexuality. 

At a news conference at the State House less than a week before the Nov. 3 election, Madore made his first public appearance on the issue, flanked by Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth about Homosexuality and Brian Camenker of MassResistance.

"This is a very serious issue, and if we don't decide correctly what to do with this, we're apt to go the wrong way; we have been doing that incrementally," said Madore, who lives in Lewiston.

"There's a very clear case here as to why same-sex marriage is bad for Maine, because it has the weight and force of the legal system to indoctrinate society to that which some perceive to be the norm. That cannot possibly be good for Maine," he said.

Madore's political action committee, the Maine Grassroots Coalition, has spent about $8,300 on the campaign so far, according to state campaign finance reports. About $3,200 has gone toward paying himself and his wife, Susan, for their efforts.

One concern cited by Madore was potential voter fraud, based on the No on 1 campaign's program bringing out-of-staters to take vacations in Maine to volunteer for the campaign.

"The practical effects of having this campaign, is not only that they will come to work, but will they vote? Will they vote? We know that voter fraud has always been an issue that's very much a part of campaigns, particularly campaigns that are controversial," Madore said.

Jesse Connolly, campaign manager for the No on 1/Protect Maine Equality group, called the accusation "insulting."

"We certainly have volunteers from out of state, but we hold Maine's election laws very seriously," he said. "It's unfortunate that the level of discourse has fallen to this."

Connolly said his group has not been deceptive about anything and is very focused on Election Day.

The Stand for Marriage Maine group, which is leading efforts to reject the new law, disavowed Madore's news conference and his speakers, said Scott Fish, spokesman for Stand for Marriage Maine.

Bob Emrich, a leader of the group, said that although Madore is advocating for the same "Yes on 1" vote his group is, they have chosen not to endorse his message.

"Paul does his thing, whatever that might be; everybody may be headed to the same destination, but the way of getting there may be different," Emrich said.

He said he disassociated his group from LaBarbera, specifically.

"(LaBarbera's) comments are that we, being Stand for Marriage Maine and myself, that we are cowardly," Emrich said. "So given that that's his attitude toward the way we're presenting our message, it's hard to imagine how we could work closely with him."

Madore, who was active in previous campaigns against what he calls "the homosexual issue," offered his services to the Stand for Marriage Maine campaign, but like Michael Heath, formerly of the Christian Civic League, was not assigned a leadership role in the campaign.

"They just felt like there was a different way to do it, so you can't have a team going in different directions at the same time," Emrich said of the situation.

The speakers at the news conference sought to reveal what they felt were hidden agendas behind contributors to the No on 1 campaign.

"What hasn't been reported are the incredibly radical connections and behaviors and public pronouncements of some of these groups," said LaBarbera, using the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force as an example. "The people of Maine are not familiar with the support of the bigoted gay organizations that have been the sustenance of the No on 1 campaign."

LaBarbera read a description of a course offered by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force during a summit held in February as an example of something Mainers should be aware of.

"This workshop will empower (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning) youth to increase their emotional and physical safety with intimate partners, acquaintances and hook-ups. Participants will gain and practice skills and tools to convey awareness, gain full consent, assert boundaries and respectively approach someone, recognize abusive behavior and respond to dangerous situations," he read.

"Essentially, what we are talking about here is an organization so radical that they are now advocating sexual freedom for young people," LaBarbera said.

When asked why he was holding the news conference so close to the election, Madore said he had trouble raising enough money to bring in the speakers.

"But there's a very clear message that's reverberating in Lewiston regarding the threat of indoctrination, the content in the schools and I believe the vast majority of parents don't want that. They want fairness for all, but they're not willing to sacrifice their children for it," he said.

A statement released by the No on 1 campaign said Madore has "been behind some of the most anti-gay hate speech over the last 20 years" in Maine. Additionally, MassResistance, Camenker's group, is one of 11 designated anti-gay hate groups listed by the Southern Poverty Law Center, according to the No on 1 campaign.

rmetzler@sunjournal.com


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ojhuig says

True dat, Steve!

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

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melora says

Vote YES on #1! Those from out of state are pushing this agenda on Maine. In fact, those responsible for starting this whole thing were from CA! They are even busing in loads of gay supporters to push this issue on the people of Maine.

People who are in doubt on this issue need to check this link, as it shows the damage that will happen to the state of Maine once gay marriage is ushered in. Just look at what happened to MA. If I lived there, I would move, it has become so corrupt!

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/effects_of_ssm.html

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

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ojhuig says

That's baloney. I happen to have insider information. The YES on One ads are produced using out-of-state actors, with the voices of other actors using Maine accents, dubbed in over them. Dishonest and From Away!

I and my family and friends are here at home in Maine and nobody is pushing this on us. We believe in marriage equality for ALL couples.

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

Ray1964 says

The MassResistance website and their blog are operated by two people operating on a shoe string budget. MassResistance is written by Brian Camenker and the MassResistance blog is written by Amy Contrada, a woman that spends most of her time trying to hide her identity. These two sites are so full of lies and half truths that the mainstream anti gay marriage websites such the Massachusetts Family Institute don't post a link to these sites. Google even has a warning about the blog before you can enter the site. These two are not nice people.

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

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Stacey W. says

Have to make a correction there Ray, Americans for Truth does in fact link to and praise massresistance on their site, I will not discuss here the topic at the start of the page as it is not appropriate, but the next article down does say "Can it get any weirder, any more perverse? And then it does. Our good friends over at MassResistance once again have done the hard work of exposing part of the REAL homosexual youth agenda ..." So they are apparently unconcerned with being connected to a group listed in hate crime databases. And apparently approve of their bizarre and harassing tactics, some of which is posting pictures online of minor children without their parents consent.

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

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Stacey W. says

Wow Ray, I just spent time looking at their sick site and reading related articles about their public appearances. Mr Camenker has spent time testifying that Nazi's didn't do anything to gays, and Mrs. Contrada lambasted her own child on the internet (poor kid, to be a lesbian and have that for a mother!). The Southern Poverty Law Center listed massresistance as a hate group.

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

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Stacey W. says

You might want to look at the groups from Cali and Utah that have been pouring money into this state for the yes camp. For example the anti-gay group, America Forever, based in Utah and founded by a brother and sister that immigrated to the US from Mexico sent out faxes to Maine businesses lambasting our Senators in picture and word as satanic witches and included a "kill Obama" video reference. What started this is a law that is in place, not put there by Californians, but rather by our own Governor. There are plenty of us in this state are sick of seeing hate and tired of hearing jokes about throwing gays off of bridges. Again, look up the 350 + Maine lawyers that debunked the lies told by the yes on 1 campaign.

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

Sammie says

Google the sources Stacey W. Read of the statistics in established Gay Marriage countries.
You are blind to reality.
Slippery Slope - What is next? Man - Boy love? Studies have already been published with the premise of what's wrong with LOVE between a 13 y.o. boy and a 40 y.o. man if it is consensual? Sound familiar? Yesterday a young child (12 y.o.) asked what is wrong with that very scenario.

Jon Albrecht - you are one sick gay man to compare rape to Christian indoctrination as traumatic. Typical bashing!! Gay men do not want gay marriage according to overwhelming statistics - for example 2/3s of the gay marriages in Vermont are between women although gay men outnumber them. The promiscuity rates among gays are sky high yet your responses are that promiscuity is within all genders. Nonsense - it is much higher among gays. HIV is a gay disease: NO homosexuals = no HIV.

I truly feel sorry for you misled souls - I really do.

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

amykins76 says

Are you serious? Man-boy love? Im curious, about your concept of right and wrong here? I thought we were talking about adult consentual relationships here.
As for no homosexuals=no hiv can you place this soap box about 2 stories up and jump of it please! This has been inane since the 80's. and if yesterday a 12 year old asked you this wuestion i hope that you were able to respond to that child, and i hope that you keep responding to that child!

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

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melora says

The homosexual movement is famous for a group that promotes man/boy love relationships. It is that NAMBLA organization. It is a very perverse organization. It should be outlawed like the KKK. And those who study statistics on homosexual relationships would know they are not healthy nor appropriate for children to be involved (which is what will happen if gay marriage is given recognition). Children should never intentionally be placed in a home without both a father and a mother. All psychology knows this but the politically correct people stifle the words of truth (because it isn't politically correct).

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ojhuig says

Wrong-o. Studies show that the vast majority of pedophiles, even men who agress against male children, are heterosexual. NAMBLA is not a gay organization, it is a pedophilia organization. Not the same thing, not even close.

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

news4u says

"Children should never intentionally be placed in a home without both a father and a mother. All psychology knows this but the politically correct people stifle the words of truth (because it isn't politically correct)."

Yeah, let's keep children in a home with both a father and mother. It doesn't matter that dad beats up mom. It doesn't matter that mom is a drug addict and her only love is finding her next fix. Let's keep children in a home with both a father and mother who work 40 plus hours a week and the children become latchkey kids. Let's keep children in a home with both a father and mother where the father sexually abuses his daughter. But all of this is okay because there is both a father and mother living in the home?!?

You stated: "The homosexual movement is famous for a group that promotes man/boy love relationships." The only group that I know that promotes this unlawful relationship is pedophile priests.

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

Mrs. McG says

"Yeah, let's keep children in a home with both a father and mother. It doesn't matter that dad beats up mom. It doesn't matter that mom is a drug addict..."

Can we say "false alternative"? Saying that it is in the best interest of a child to place them in the home where s/he can have a mother and a father is not that same as saying "just so long as the couple is heterosexual."

"The only group that I know that promotes this unlawful relationship is pedophile priests."

You really are filled with vitriol. "Pedophile priests" is not a "group," but you just keep unleashing your hatred for Catholics and the Catholic Church because they disagree with your view. Talk about intolerance.

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

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iangol says

Doesn't EVERY organization have EQUAL rights? That is what No on1 is saying... Equal rights

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

amykins76 says

Pedophilia is wrong! NAMBLA is a dispicable organization! My two lesbian friends getting married, is stable, and the child they raise who is a special needs child because both of his parents have meth addictions; seems perfectly reasonable, as for both a mother and a father, single parents need to unite on this one, I have been a single mother to both my son and my daughter; they are both strong, intelligent, and hard working young kiddos. So are you really gonna say that a single mom who managed to get to kids raised to full adulthood, and even shock in college should lose her kids do to the lack of a strong male rolemodel? NAMBLA is i belive what this was about and I do need to say that i had never heard of it before, but went to there website. It has nothing to do with being gay or being married, it has to do with power, same as domestic violence. please take that into consideration, I belive that voting no on 1 is going to be better for maine in the long run.

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unforgivenjimi says

No homosexuals = No HIV? Where is your study to confirm this? Do you even know the origins of HIV and AIDS or do you think it just magically appeared in San Francisco in the 70's? Saying there would be no HIV if all the homosexuals disappeared is like saying Cirrhosis would go away if we were to get rid of the Super Bowl.

Also, I would think that we as people would know the difference between right and wrong, you know common sense. Common sense tells us that sex with animals is not only wrong its disgusting, same thing with sex with kids, kids consenting to sex with adults is only to gain favor or to get the attention they need in one form they are not getting at home in the proper form. Sex and marriage between consenting adults is an entirely different concept and to even compare the two is just foul.

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

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Stacey W. says

OMG your an idiot. I ask everyone in the yes on 1 camp, do you appreciate the fact that people think you are all like this person?? Do you realize that all these arguments boil down to people hearing just this rhetoric? What's next? Are you going to claim that all gay people are going to dress up in hot pants and boas and drag your kids out of your home and into a parade??? Oh, I have a headache now. Moron.

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

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iangol says

Next new law that will be in acted is:

You will now have the right to marry your dog because your dog and you truly love one another and it's not a sexual thing...

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

amykins76 says

Bestiality is totally different then homosexuality. Human love and marraige differ as (most) we have learned to walk in an upright position witout dragging our knuckles on the ground. These sorts of scare tactics iangol are not only not going to work but they are also insulting!

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iangol says

boy I guess your a bigot because this is an EQUAL RIGHTS ISSUE? Is that what the NO on 1 campaign is saying.. equal rights. Because everyone that loves someone should be allowed to get married. Most people who have dogs feel they are FAMILY members and they love them... no difference then homosexuals from wanting to marry..

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

amykins76 says

Are you kidding me? Ill tell you what you get hundreds of people to sign a petition stating that you can marry your dog ...your beloved family pet....something you paid cash for(prostitution much?) and i will weigh the options a vote with my concience. Until then does this argument really exist?

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

Daughterofahomo... says

Laughing so hard here... Tell you what Amy when Dogs can speak for themselves that they want to marry their owners and when they can sign their name on the marriage certificates I will then go and vote my conscience like you. Talk about him/her trying to blow smoke and elude the actual topic at hand.

As everyone can read from the user name I am the daughter of a homosexual. My father being bi-sexual did not in any way shape or form make me gay or lesbian. I am straight, but I have an open mind and can fully understand the feeling of those who are gay, lesbian, bisexual etc. I will vote NO on Nov. 3rd. No silly scare tactics about the crazy things they will teach my children in school will work. Oh an by the way my dad did not have AIDs or give it to us kids or any other STDs. What my dad did give us was love, respect, and a great up bringing and was an amazing father. A awesome Grandfather and a wonderful friend to all those who knew and loved him.

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Stacey W. says

Great, another one looking for the volcano. We must only believe what we are told. There really are aliens in there, honest!

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

amykins76 says

Bestiality is totally different then homosexuality. Human love and marraige differ as (most) we have learned to walk in an upright position witout dragging our knuckles on the ground. These sorts of scare tactics iangol are not only not going to work but they are also insulting!

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

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Stacey W. says

I'm sure that's the same inane argument that was used when they passed the law that blacks could marry whites.

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unforgivenjimi says

It is people like you that take a simple issue of equality and blow it out of complete proportion. All because you do not really understand the issues at hand and believe, and follow, the smoke screens that are thrown at you. Congratulations my friend, you are a lemming.

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

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iangol says

I laughed so hard last night when I watched this debate on tv.

Mary Bonauto said she had not heard the NO on 1 people calling the YES on 1 bigots. Then
Brian Souchet told her she must not be paying to much attention the campaign. It was hysterical to see this! LOL Mary Bonauto is campaigning with her eyes closed

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ojhuig says

Well I've heard them being called bigots, because I am one of the ones doing it.

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

jalbrecht1 says

the YES on 1 folks are making one simple argument - deny gays in our society equal status because they are disgusting people.
We need to vote NO on 1 to tell our fellow citizens that we not only accept them we will try our best to honor and protect them as I hope we do with all our fellow citizens.
Jon Albrecht Dixfield

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unforgivenjimi says

I agree 100%, as I have said, question 1 is about marriage equality, nothing more and we need to keep it at that. Denying homosexual couples the right to be legally married is not only wrong it is immoral.

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Stacey W. says

*Standing ovation* to Jon. Well said.

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

jalbrecht1 says

sammie demands rational replys to his incoherent comments. Sammie is worried about the "obscene promiscuity" of gay men. What discourages promiscuity, why marriage which sammie's against. Sammie's concerned about huge increases in STD's among gays. But his sources are 11 to 17 years old. 40% of teenage girls mostly heterosexual have or have had an STD. STD's are spread by promiscuous sexual activity. Homosexual sexual activities are the same a heterosexual. Heterosexuals engage in them at the same rates as Homosexuals. What discourages the spread of STD's. Marriage which sammie opposes.

Sammie why do we have to be rational when you aren't.
Vote NO on 1 Help reduce the spread of STD's and promiscuity
Jon Albrecht Dixfield

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jalbrecht1 says

While it will take many years to work out the process that takes place to create sexual orientation. It will occur. But based on what we know now almost no chance exists that sexual orientation is a choice any more than eye, hair, or skin color. Although I will admit that sexual behavior is a choice. And I will admit that under extreme trama like brutal rape or Christian indoctrination sexul behavior may be different than sexual orientation. It would be a serious violation of human rights if the state dictated sexual behavior except where they have compelling reasons like incest.
Jon Albrecht Dixfield

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Sammie says

Nice try Stacey W. but a 2009 fact sheet shows that AIDS is quite prevalent with 56,300 new people in 2007 higher than previously thought. The epidemic continues to have a disproportionate impact on certain populations, particularly racial and ethnic minorities, and
GAY AND BISEXUAL MEN. So as this states quite obviously it is still a GAY disease.
• More than 1.1 million people are estimated to be infected.
U.S. Total 1,030,832
Figure 1: Key Snapshot of the U.S. Epidemic Today
• Number of new HIV infections, 2006: 56,300
• Number of people living with HIV/AIDS: 1.1 million, including
more than 468,000 with AIDS
• Number of AIDS deaths since beginning of epidemic: 583,298,
including 14,561 in 2007
• Percent of people infected with HIV who don’t know it: 21%

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Stacey W. says

Even with your numbers, which you do not quote your source on (I would like to read the information myself), nor do you show which of those numbers are gay vs. straight, you still do not show how granting a human being the right to be in a legal monogamist relationship has anything to do with this particular argument. Are you simply afraid that the tax breaks will reduce taxes collected in this state? Do you really think gay people will go away if you vote yes? Could you possibly see that if people didn't have to hide they would be better protected from these diseases? I cannot continue to follow your distorted logic on disease. It really has nothing to do with the issue at hand, and the vote will not change our ability to see the stats differently. I'll let the documented sources I posted stand and this will be the last of my comments on this particular branch of this discussion.

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ojhuig says

Sammie, you're missing an important point. These diseases rose for a while among gays, but they have always been (and still are) more prevalent among straight people. You are mis-informed at best.

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Sammie says

You miss the point "unforgivenjimi." I spoke of the much higher rates of numerous diseases - why promote it with Gay Marriage -- so that more confused kids will explore and go into that lifestyle, and you compare it to some bar lady that gets drunk and goes home with different guys - another bad choice? It is rampant among gays especially men.
This sexual choice cannot possibly be compared to skin color either!

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unforgivenjimi says

I am not discounting the numbers listed by CDC, the source I used. And to get all the truth out there it also states that 83% of Women got HIV/AIDS from heterosexual sex.

However, what the numbers are not showing is this: how much of this M/M sexual contact is both partners being fully gay men? Would you be willing to stipulate that some are seemingly straight married to women men that are sneaking around to fulfill some desire within themselves? Probably not, you do not strike me as the type.

All I am saying is that numbers can mean anything. And as for confusing kids? What is more confusing, letting this all be out in the open or continuing on, telling them it is bad and wrong and if they feel that way they are dirty?

You can use numbers to say anything, with divorce so high why should we allow marriage at all? Or should we just jail those that get divorces? That affects and confuses kids as well. Whether or not gay marriage is allowed there will always be promiscuous people out there, that is the point I was trying to make, and they will all be of varying sexual orientation.

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Stacey W. says

You deliberately misunderstand me. I do not have an issue with skin color, sadly the updated stats include that information. Your point is counter productive, as marriage inherently means monogamy and commitment to one partner which reduces the rates of disease, and you are voting to deny that right.

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Sammie says

SOME SOURCES FOR DISEASES

(1) Mireya Navarro,”Federal Officials See Sharp Rise of Hepatitis Among Gay Men,” The New York Times, March 6, 1992
(2) Centers for Disease Control, HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report, Vol.9, No.2, May, 1998
(3) American Adolescents: How Healthy Are They?, p. 31, American Medical Association, 1990
(4) Robert Garofalo and others, “The Association Between Health Risk Behaviors and Sexual Orientation Among a School-based Sample of Adolescents,” Pediatrics, 101 pp 895-902, (1998).

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Stacey W. says

Source: cdc.gov 2009: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/aa/resources/other/pdf/HIV_AA_DearColleagu...
"We are now in the third decade of the HIVIAIDS epidemic. The epidemic has changed in many important ways. For example, there have been dramatic declines in the occurrence of new HIV and AIDS cases since the beginning of the epidemic and today, however, the news is not universally positive. Tragically, the majority of those affected by HIVIAIDS are African-Americans and other people of color, which is in contrast to the early years of the epidemic."
Again I ask, do you have anything that has current data? I do, I just gave it to you. Your beating a dead horse with the statistics that are well over 10 years old.

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Sammie says

I posted five hours ago and as I thought nothing but inane rants; not one rational response to explain any points I made, i.e. the increase in diseases from the gay lifestyle.
Trust me, I am not a homophobe. I work around gay friends daily. Almost every male wants no part of a gay marriage and the statistics on the obscene promiscuity among male homosexuals - it is shocking - EXPLAIN it please and how bringing that to Maine and putting that stamp of approval will benefit Maine?

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news4u says

"Trust me, I am not a homophobe. I work around gay friends daily."
Ooohhhhhhh.....Aren't you the brave one Sammie!

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Stacey W. says

"Despite the significant reductions in perinatal HIV transmission and cases of congenital syphilis in the United States, African-American children still remain at risk. In 2004, 71 percent of the infants reported as having HIVIAIDS were African American, and 63 percent of U.S. children younger than 13 years of age who had a new AIDS diagnosis were African-American. Also in 2004,44 percent of the reported cases of congenitai syphiiis were among African-American infants." source cdc.gov hiv_aa_dearcolleague.pdf. Those aren't stats about gay people, those are stats on children. The problem isn't about gays, it's about not having information to keep yourself and your unborn children safe when your sleeping with someone. You need current stats to validate your point.

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unforgivenjimi says

Okay, you want a reasonable response to the STD/disease point... what about all those women at Mixer's in Sabattus? The ones that go home with someone different every weekend? Promiscuity is not limited to just homosexuals, it crosses all sexual orientations. Numbers mean nothing and can be looked at in a variety of ways. However, Question 1 is about marriage equality, about two people that love each other being able to be legally married, that is all.

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Stacey W. says

Hook, when are you going to site your source?

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

Hook says

Here's one for you, lefties. Michelle Obama is firmly opposed to same-sex marriage.

Think of it. Michelle Obama agrees with Madore. What's a liberal to do?

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unforgivenjimi says

Really? Umm, I think you need to research the definition of "opposed"

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=13108

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Stacey W. says

LOL try doing a search with her name and "homosexuality" what you find is a bunch of people that thump a bible but don't live it proclaiming she's satin's minion for promoting equality. Nice try. There are a lot of her speeches printed that show her belief in equality and anti hate.

Posted 3 weeks ago (permalink)

Hook says

My, my Stacey, aren't we gullible? You actually think the Obamas would put that out there, and it would be available on the web. See how your little mind works.

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