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A chance of happiness

Reagan Simmons
Letters |
Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 1:01 am

I am outraged by the vote against gay marriage. I am not bisexual or gay but many others in this world are, so who, in God's name, says that it is our decision to allow it or not?

Anyone should be given the chance of happiness. No person should stand in the way of that.

I'm completely and utterly ashamed of my state, thanks to the close-minded fools residing here.

As I said before, it is not up to us to decide the marriage rights of any sexual orientation. Let love reign and peace dominate.

Reagan Simmons, Lewiston

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"I am outraged by the vote

By John Chick, verified user — Thu, 11/12/2009 - 10:55

"I am outraged by the vote against gay marriage. I am not bisexual or gay but many others in this world are, so who, in God's name, says that it is our decision to allow it or not?"

Who in God's name? God Himself. God created us male and female. God ordained the institution of marriage. God defined marriage as a union between a man and a woman. Who are we to change that? By what authority?

Government is prohibited from passing any laws that establish religion, or interfere with the free exercise thereof.

John A. Chick

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." -- Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Colonel Charles Yancey (January 6, 1816)

citrus's picture

If your ashamed of Maine,

By citrus, unverified — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 15:29

If your ashamed of Maine, move to Vermont. Gay marriage is legal there.
Actually Mainers pleasantly suprised me by voting yes on 1 as they did. The majority of Mainers got it right on question #1.

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Reagan - your post is full

By FeloPrergoHok, unverified — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 13:49

Reagan - your post is full of such ignorant statements that I feel sorry for you.
Instead of piling on and picking on you I will mention one rejoinder. You wrote,
''Anyone should be given the chance of happiness. No person should stand in the way of that.' Let's say I 'love' your 13 year old daughter and I am 58 years old. By your 'anything goes' foolhardy statement 'no person' should stand in the way of that. You are ushering in the pedophilia era. Once, about 35 years ago, hardly anyone would have believed that gay sex would be accepted in any way. I predict because of misled, gullible people like you that in 30 years or less pedophilia will have its heyday as the gays are today. The APA has already published a study showing that 15 year old boys had no negative effects from having affairs with older men. I know how disgusting this sounds everyone but it is coming!
Reagan - you have been filled with lies about the gay gene and the postmodernism's anything-goes era. Warning - sin has consequences; your choices will lead to consequences. Turn away from your homosexual lifestyle and quit falling for the lies of that destructive lifestyle that lead to early death and increased diseases across the spectrum. No one can deny those facts.

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"No person should stand in

By news4u, unverified — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 17:10

"No person should stand in the way of that.' Let's say I 'love' your 13 year old daughter and I am 58 years old. By your 'anything goes' foolhardy statement 'no person' should stand in the way of that. You are ushering in the pedophilia era."
Last I knew child molestation & pedophilia was a criminal offense, but homosexuality was not.

"I predict because of misled, gullible people like you that in 30 years or less pedophilia will have its heyday as the gays are today. "
You sound like a fortune teller. I think you've been staring into your crystal ball too long. Do you read tarot cards too?

jchick's picture
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You didn't check very

By John Chick, verified user — Thu, 11/12/2009 - 14:12

You didn't check very hard.

Not that long ago homosexuality (aka sodomy) WAS against the law (i.e. a criminal offense) in many States. Some still have it on the books, but don't enforce it anymore. Please check your facts before making blanket statements.

And his prediction is not unfounded:

- Over 2 million children around the world are sexually exploited every year.
- Here in the United States, as of the end of the year 2000, there were as many as 325,000 children being exploited.
- Child sex tourism, which involves child sex tours, takes adults from around the world to places where they can sexually exploit children.
- 25% of "sex tourists" outside the United States are American.
- The average age of entry into prostitution in the United States is 13.

The general consensus in this country is that Gay people are born that way. Well guess what, the general consensus is that pedophiles are born that way too. A pedophile will tell you that they would never dream of hurting a child. That they "love" children.

There was a time when society considered it "normal" for a girl to be married at an extremely young age (i.e. 13). In some parts of the world it is still acceptable

My point? Just because something is "acceptable" it doesn't mean it is right.

John A. Chick

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." -- Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Colonel Charles Yancey (January 6, 1816)

tron's picture

If you live in New Hampshire

By tron, unverified — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 14:03

If you live in New Hampshire and Reagan gave her consent, you would be legally allowed to marry her 13yo daughter. So your whole scenario goes out the window, as well as your argument.

Robert61's picture

tron, check the record, the

By Robert61, unverified — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 14:51

tron, check the record, the two parties marrying can have no greater age difference than 3 years....

tron's picture

I find nothing concerning

By tron, unverified — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 16:37

I find nothing concerning age difference, just that one party may annul until majority is reached. You may be correct, but I'm inclined to believe that you're just challenging me because in your pathetic existence that gives you raison d"etre.

Robert61's picture

Sorry tron, only you would

By Robert61, unverified — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 22:46

Sorry tron, only you would be that paranoid...check the record, the staute clearly states a woman of 13 with concent, a man of 14 with concent, but both parties can be no more than 3 years in age difference. Probably a great decision by someone to put that in, yes?

Pirate's picture
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Not being very neighborly, T

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 17:01

Not being very neighborly, T

Robert61's picture

Pirate, when someone lives

By Robert61, unverified — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 22:47

Pirate, when someone lives next to the river, their neighbors are rats...

tron's picture

Case in point.

By tron, unverified — Thu, 11/12/2009 - 00:30

Case in point.

nikita80's picture

Reagan, you said it's not up

By nikita80, unverified — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 13:37

Reagan, you said it's not up to us to decide the marriage rights of any sexual orientation...ANY sexual orientation. I've seen both gays and straights protest to many perverted orientations right here on this web site.

Pirate's picture
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Is Reagan referring to the

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 12:53

Is Reagan referring to the same "closed minded fools" that have been electing the same democrats for the last 35 years and then complaining about how high taxes are in Maine?Does she mean those "closed-minded fools"?

Gil's picture

"I am not bisexual or gay

By Gil, unverified — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 08:24

"I am not bisexual or gay but many others in this world are" Right off the bat you are wrong. Less than 2% of the US population is declared gay. Get your numbers right, then learn how the Maine voter referendum works. Then, grow up and accept that not everybody agrees with you. Then, learn how to deal with disappointment in ways other than hurling names at those you disagree with (refer back to the "grow up" part).
"Reasoning with a liberal is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end. " Pirate

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Good post, Gil.

By nikita80, unverified — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 13:18

Good post, Gil.

Pirate's picture
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As is often the case, Gil

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 12:55

As is often the case, Gil rocks...

gdls1's picture

As Ellen might say: "Right

By gdls1, unverified — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 09:25

As Ellen might say: "Right back at you!"

armorin's picture
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You get your numbers right.

By Tony Morin, verified user — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 08:51

You get your numbers right. You know as well as I do that the the less than 2% figure is not an accurate representation of the current g/l population in the U.S. It's just a convenient survey that you choose to use.

tron's picture

You've gotta be careful,

By tron, unverified — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 14:11

You've gotta be careful, armorin, because technically gil is correct, for once. He said 2% of people are DECLARED homosexuals, which is approximately true. Those 2% to 3% are out of the closet, but estimates vary about the total number of homosexuals in society from a low of 8% to upwards of 20%, with the actual numbers somewhere in the middle.

Gil's picture

"You've gotta be careful,

By Gil, unverified — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 20:32

"You've gotta be careful, armorin, because technically gil is correct, for once." OUCH. That had to hurt to write that. I still have to ask for your proof of the 8-20% though, sounds kinda made up.
"Reasoning with a liberal is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end. " Pirate

Pirate's picture
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The parrot wants to know if

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 13:35

The parrot wants to know if Armorin can prove that the 2% figure is NOT accurate. When it comes to truth, the burden of proof to counter that truth lies on the shoulders of the non-believer. Rule # 67 of the Pirates' Handbook.

Gil's picture

Here's a link to back up my

By Gil, unverified — Thu, 11/12/2009 - 01:11

Here's a link to back up my claim, with references. Interesting breakdown. http://www.adherents.com/adh_dem.html
"Reasoning with a liberal is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end. " Pirate

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Isnt that why we vote so the

By JO-LAU-VT155, unverified — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 07:50

Isnt that why we vote so the people of the state has say in the laws in Maine? I do believe the
bible states marriage is between one man and one women. So what ever happened to that?
"I'm completely and utterly ashamed of my state, thanks to the close-minded fools residing here" Well then if you really feel that way then maybe you should move to a state where you like there laws better. Because it is up to the people whom vote in Maine and I dont think there gonna change there mind any time soon.

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How is it our decision?

By Mike LeBlanc, verified user — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 06:47

How is it our decision? Evidently, Reagan, you have never read the US Constitution. I urge you to do so, even if your school doesn't believe it's worth studying. The effort will be of great benefit to you when you reach high school.

Pirate's picture
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Good post, Frostproof. The

By Paul St. Jean, verified user — Wed, 11/11/2009 - 13:01

Good post, Frostproof. The liberal parrot even liked it. Since I've been giving him catnip treats, he seems to be adopting the conservative point of view in some matters. He even suggested that conservatives might try to slip a little catnip to unsuspecting liberal on occasion. It might wake them up (his words).

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