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Mercy of the government
The idea of government involvement in health care and competing with private insurers is ludicrous.
Both U.S. Reps. Chellie Pingree and Michael Michaud voted in favor of the health care reform bill. Michaud had said he wasn't certain of how he would vote but, after lots of soul searching, he decided to vote yes, even if it means costing the taxpayers more than a trillion dollars and taking away some health care protection for senior citizens in order to pay for it, and competing with health insurance companies on price controls.
Mandatory health care insurance from small companies will cause more people to be out of work. And how in the world can a private insurance company compete with the U.S. government? It can't, and will go out of business. Then we will be at the total mercy of the federal government.
Pingree is said to be very proud of casting her vote in favor of such a ridiculous health care plan.
I don't trust the federal government with my health care. It can't even supply citizens with much-needed vaccine for the H1N1 swine flu virus, even after President Obama stipulated that this was a national emergency.
I hope U.S. Sens. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins continue to vote no on the public option part of the health care plan.
The stimulus package cost the taxpayers $1 trillion and there is still more than 10 percent unemployment. The proposed health care plan will cost another trillion dollars. Watch out.
Daniel R. Lalonde Sr., Lewiston
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verified Gil, Obama derangement
Gil, Obama derangement syndrome? Get in touch with your inner self. Wait. Don't to scary.
Jon Albrecht Dixfield
verified Ah! the sillies are out in
Ah! the sillies are out in force. "It can't even supply citizens with much-needed vaccine for the H1N1 swine flu virus...." The government isn't manufacturing H1N1 vaccine, private industry is. Government is just coordinating distribution and it can't distribute what hasn't been made.
How can a private health insurance company compete with the government? First they don't have to. The Public option as defined in all the bills being discussed in congress is only available to people that all insurance companies have already denied health insurance. Health insurance companies are exempt from anti-trust laws so they don't even have to compete with each other.
We will be at the mercy of the Federal Government? Oh! let it be true. Today, health insurance companies kill 44,870+ Americans. They ration care in 20% of cases. Please leave me at the mercy of the Federal Government at least there I have a vote and representatives fighting for my interests.
Jon Albrecht Dixfield
. .i hope they vote yes on
. .i hope they vote yes on social security , medicare , medicaid , and VA benefits , Dan :)
The fact remains that this
The fact remains that this is a power grab on the part of the Socialist in Chief. Pelosi, Reed, Pingree, Michaud, and the Chosen One could give a rat's patootie if you actually have health insurance or not. They want the power and control that goes with the control of health care. Wake up sheeple, this is just another step in the nationalization of our major industries. They realize that losers like the first two posters this morning want to give the government power so that they will not have to make decisions and be responsible for themselves. Those in power know that lemmings like these have no qualms about demanding that those who produce pay for those who will not. They realize that the looter mentality of these two is widespread and that the looters outnumber the producers. What happens when the producers have had enough of their hard earned money stripped away to buy votes by giving it to someone who refuses to better themselves? I think we are well on our way to finding out.
"Reasoning with a liberal is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end. " Pirate
verified Gil - Got any GI benefits
Gil - Got any GI benefits left?
You might try getting an education, if you don't try eating the covers off the books. While you're at it, you can find out who the real looters are.
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When I was a young Sailor - I drank like a Sailor, fought like a Sailor, and screwed like a Sailor. Now that I am old and wise - I have a few scars, but many fond memories.
verified Way too much World Nut
Way too much World Nut Daily.
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Franklin D. Roosevelt
verified Poor Gil; Unable to cogently
Poor Gil;
Unable to cogently argue factual points to support a logical position, he's reduced to name calling and insults.
This 'loser' with an alleged 'looter mentality' has earned his health care more honorably than you could ever imagine, Gil. While you tell fables of the Vietnam War that you watched on TV video, I actually fought it - for three long years. So of course I made it my business to later learn if it was winnable or not.
Go watch more Faux News to form more opinions about life in a world that you've never really lived in.
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When I was a young Sailor - I drank like a Sailor, fought like a Sailor, and screwed like a Sailor. Now that I am old and wise - I have a few scars, but many fond memories.
I served also, a lot longer
I served also, a lot longer than 3 years, yet I don't believe that I "earned" the right to someone else paying for my health care. That's what makes you a looter, and a loser. You have no problem taking from others where you have failed to provide for yourself. You have no problem giving up responsibility for your own actions to allow Big Brother to take care of you. 3 years of military service, in war or not, does not entitle you to the fruits of others labor. It makes you a leech.
"Reasoning with a liberal is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end. " Pirate
verified Gil, I have to
Gil, I have to disrespectfully disagree with you on "yet I don't believe that I 'earned' the right to someone else paying for my health care." The day you signed up you earned that. I did not serve, so I have nothing to personally gain, but I believe that when you signed your name either willingly or because you were drafted, you earned the right for me to contribute to your health care. You also earned the right to the best health care money can buy. You and all others who served deserve what those in Congress have. Now I do not believe that I should pay for those who did not serve.
verified You're the ignoramus that
You're the ignoramus that you are because of pizz-poor reading comprehension, Gil. How does fighting in Vietnam for three years translate to only three years service? You went off assuming - and made an ass of yourself. Again.
Think you could actually compare your service to my 22 years? Not hardly, Boy.
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When I was a young Sailor - I drank like a Sailor, fought like a Sailor, and screwed like a Sailor. Now that I am old and wise - I have a few scars, but many fond memories.
22 or 102 years, you are
22 or 102 years, you are still not owed the fruits of others labor. You are not entitled to have the government take from others at the point of a gun and give to you. And f you'd like to try that boy comment in person, I'd be glad to oblige you. I ASSUME however, that like your buddy tron, you are a lot braver sitting behind a computer screen.
"Reasoning with a liberal is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end. " Pirate
verified So you sit behind a computer
So you sit behind a computer to call folks 'losers' and 'looters'
I also got paid to arrest A-holes like you who ran their mouths in public and challenged others to fight. Retired from that, too.
So you want me to do charity work now?
Grow up, Little Boy. The successful contractors I know don't sit at computers and whine all the time. They're too busy working and raising their families.
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When I was a young Sailor - I drank like a Sailor, fought like a Sailor, and screwed like a Sailor. Now that I am old and wise - I have a few scars, but many fond memories.
verified You got paid to arrest
You got paid to arrest people who questioned the government and government policies? BTW: You are sitting behind a computer too. Please don't call others A-Holes ("I got paid to arrest A-holes like you who ran their mouths in public") just because you don't agree with them. Everyone has a right to voice opinions, no matter who agrees or disagrees.
verified Seeing how you're 'C' in an
Seeing how you're 'C' in an 'A' - 'B' conversation, and you can't keep up - just take notes, not revise what I say.
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When I was a young Sailor - I drank like a Sailor, fought like a Sailor, and screwed like a Sailor. Now that I am old and wise - I have a few scars, but many fond memories.
verified Name calling and put downs
Name calling and put downs well get your point across to someone. Just like picking a fight with me has. Look at all the time you could have been contributing to a debate, but instead wasted time in an argument that did nothing to further your cause. And you say that your superior and that i have a mental disorder!
verified There you go - reading
There you go - reading things into postings which aren't even there.
Interesting that you then bring up "Mental disorder"
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When I was a young Sailor - I drank like a Sailor, fought like a Sailor, and screwed like a Sailor. Now that I am old and wise - I have a few scars, but many fond memories.
verified If you have VA benefits,
If you have VA benefits, don't taxpayers foot the bill for that?
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Franklin D. Roosevelt
Gil, do you get paid to
Gil, do you get paid to spread your propaganda?
No T, it's all gratis. You
No T, it's all gratis. You get what you pay for. Funny how it's propaganda when you don't agree, what are you calling the lies coming from the Chosen One, or Pelosi?
"Reasoning with a liberal is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end. " Pirate
"It [the government] can't
"It [the government] can't even supply citizens with much-needed vaccine for the H1N1 swine flu virus, even after President Obama stipulated that this was a national emergency."
Mr. Lalonde, the government is not in the business of manufacturing AH1N1 vaccine. It cannot supply what does not exist. Vaccines are manufactured by companies such as Novartis Vaccines. Novartis Vaccines' decision to produce or not produce a vaccine is driven solely by profit.
http://www.novartisvaccines.com/
Ernest, maybe you should do some research before you spout off? You are embarrassing yourself. Just some friendly advice...
verified Maine Care determined that
Maine Care determined that my challenged daughter didn't qualify for coverage and that we didn't qualify for WIC. Of course so many qualify for both who really need it since they "can't" find jobs or "can't" work. That is what happens with blanket government coverages. More people who need it will be denied, and yet will have to pay for it. Fair? Very much to those who will never work.
My cousin, who worked for a
My cousin, who worked for a company for 22 years has been laid off for almost two years now, and has been going to school was denied MaineCare. His unemployment check is minimal and he is struggling hard. Now he has been diagnosed with cancer and has still been denied. His income is just short of the guidelines. When Obama gave out the extra checks for the unemployed, this is when my cousin was dropped from Mainecare. If he does not go to school, he looses his unemployment too. Unfortunately he has no family that can help him. Now what's fair and what's not?
verified Your cousin could have found
Your cousin could have found a job flipping burgers full time at a benefited food service job (yes they do exist) and going to school at night. I work in food service benefited job with people that do just that. There are also cleaning services, grocery, and security jobs. The problem is often that it's a job that people just aren't willing to lower themselves to do. They don't want to start at the bottom of the bottom and work their way up. The work stinks, people's attitudes stink, and the pay stinks. But it's employment. There have also been job fairs, there is the career center, back to work programs, career counceling, and flexible work and school scheduals. Unemployment is nice, but not a lifestyle and lends itself to the winds of government finance change.
Well, unfortunately
Well, unfortunately unemployment program says he can NOT work in order to receive unemployment benefits. He has to go to school to get his GED. He did NOT ask to be laid off, the company he worked for decided it was better to can the older employees and hire new ones so they did not have to pay as much to hire people to work for them. You can't get a job with out a GED or DIPLOMA any more and if you do get one you get paid minimum wage and you do not get medical benefits because they don't hire full time.
This person is fighting for their life and your saying they need to go out and work? I'd like to see you have chemo and radiation treatments and go to work... at least he is trying extremely hard to better his life by going to school while he is sick. He also is not living off of unemployment either as you have said. He paid his dues in the 30 + years of work he has done. This was never a way of life for him either as he IS a hard worker and enjoyed his job.
Before you go shooting off your mouth at me once again, call the Lewiston Career Center and ask them their policy. And you of all people working at a hospital would know how it's like to see cancer patients struggle.. shame on you the most highest religious one......
verified I am sorry, when you said
I am sorry, when you said school i thought you meant college. However, you said he had been working for 22 years, so he had that much time to get a GED and plan ahead. He has been out of work for 2 years and only recently been diagnosed, he could have gotten a job 2 years ago.
i am sorry that he made some bad decisions in life and now suffers.
But my origional issue is with people who milk the system, and get everything the need without working for it. So we are actually on the same side, since your cousin who wants to work and works hard to better himself can't get the help he needs because so many others tap the system that those in need "don't qualify".
I find your comment " he
I find your comment " he made some bad decisions in life and now suffers" very offensive.That was a very poor choice of words. I may not be as good a Christian as you are,but I would not presume to say the same about you. My husband has worked for 37 years and paid for what was needed.He always had a job.Has far as low paying jobs,he has had those too.His last job he started at $4.00 an hr. and he worked there for 22 & 1/2 yrs.Paid for insurance for our family too. Did not have any maine care either.He had by pass heart surgery over 9 years ago,went back to work.He has always worked.Been on( so- called) unemployment through the trade adjustment act for 1 1/2 yrs.They pay for his schooling.How many jobs have you had? How many years have you worked? Has far as your comment about the GED,it was not required back then, in order to get a job. In the 70s and 80s people left school , got a job and worked.And most are still working.My husband may not have his GED,but he has gained a superior education through years of working experience. ALSo,your planning ahead comment irritated me too.Maybe you should of told your own self that,and planned for your daughters heathcare too.
EXCUSE ME? He could of
EXCUSE ME?
He could of gotten a job 2 years ago? Where you employing at that time? I just said in my prior post he is working on getting his GED. He IS following with what unemployment is telling him to do. HE IS FOLLOWING the RULES. Isn't paying in to unemployment mean when you can't get a job you collect the money you paid in? This is NOT sucking off the system as you so call it. He EARNED every cent he receives.
You really aren't to smart are you? How did he make bad decisions? Do you know him personally? How can you judge him by what you have been reading on here?
For some one who claims to be a Christian you sure don't seem it to me. Please don't claim you are because your not. You spew your hate for some one with cancer and fighting for his life.
I can sum it up to this. Your pissed off because you can't get help for your daughter so your going to try to take it out on the sick and elderly. Well boo hoo to you... now get off your high horse. I have NO pity for some one like you. Your a very psychologically sick individual and should seek some help.
verified I have no sympathy for those
I have no sympathy for those who choose to be uneducated, and then cry about it. I have less for those who resort to name calling to make attempts at points.
My husband did not choose to
My husband did not choose to be uneducated or cry about it.That is not a very nice thing to say. He is very well educated and happy about it.He could of gotten his GED all these years,but was very busy working,taking care of his family,and taking technical college courses. No one asked for your sympathy or wants it. He did not come on here and write anything. People can still be uneducated even having a GED or diploma .
This is VERY true what you
This is VERY true what you have said in both of your comments. Your husband IS a very hard worker and he did not choose what happened to him. Not everyone chooses what happens to them in life, things just happen. He is a very smart man and has helped many many people in his life time.
I am EXTREMELY proud that MY cousin is working hard at getting his GED. I know very well his family is VERY proud of him too! He is a wonderful husband, dad, grandpy, cousin and friend.
I pray to God that he helps your family through this hard time. I know that my cousin is a good man and worked hard all his life and I feel that he's getting the bad end of the stick so to speak.
Your prayers are
Your prayers are appreciated.Not to offend you but, could you not write about our personal business online, as it is not your place to do so. We do appreciate your loyalty, but prefer to keep our personal business private, unless we decide to go public with it.I am sure you understand.Thank you.
In all honesty I don't think
In all honesty I don't think it's your daughter that is challenged I believe it's you...
nite nite
Your a very psychologically
Your a very psychologically sick individual and should seek some help
end of story...............
verified Government cannot do
Government cannot do anything right people, absolutly nothing. Why in god's name would you want them running your health care. Oh wait look at Mainecare thats such a well run program isn't it.
verified Don't like Government health
Don't like Government health care, Daniel? Then don't avail yourself of it.
But don't make the decision that others should be denied it.
BTW - Where was your 'Private Sector" with the "much-needed vaccine for the H1N1 swine flu virus?" as you put it? AWOL
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When I was a young Sailor - I drank like a Sailor, fought like a Sailor, and screwed like a Sailor. Now that I am old and wise - I have a few scars, but many fond memories.
verified We must protect private
We must protect private insurers, and keep profit before people!
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Franklin D. Roosevelt
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