We're all equal

Atheists are not bad people and atheism is not a bad word. It's merely the idea that people prefer evidence and science over Scripture.

We don't want to change anyone's beliefs, but what we want is to be able to exercise freedom of and from religion. God shouldn't step outside of its churches or private Christian schools. God should not be on money or in the pledge of allegiance. Religion should not step on the toes of government, just as the government shouldn't step on the churches' toes.

Religious people adamantly believe that their beliefs are right — "the one true way." That's fine. However, what's not fine is when those people try to force others to adhere to their personal beliefs. If someone doesn't believe in it, they shouldn't have to abide by someone else's rules.

With Yes on 1 being successful, it's very clear that has happened.Many people I know have gotten married without God involved in the ceremony, or their lives, yet their marriage is completely legal in the state of Maine. Atheists tend to fight for the rights of all humans; we're all equal.

Contrary to popular belief, I believe that atheists tend to be more law abiding than Christian counterparts. A 2001 study showed that 76.6 percent of all prison inmates were Christian; whereas only 0.4 percent of admitted atheists were in prison.

Stop labeling atheists as bad people. We're just exercising our constitutional rights. It's American.

Ryan Michael Dalessandro, Lewiston

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deimos's picture
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the reason there are so many

the reason there are so many in prison is it used to look good for the parole board if someone found religion and gave the facade of finding the light. "what's not fine is when those people try to force others to adhere to their personal beliefs." you mean like militant islamo-facists?

Pirate's picture
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Ryan Michael writes, "We

Ryan Michael writes, "We don't want to change anyone's beliefs"....I guess you never heard of Madeline Murray O'Hare, huh?. ..."but what we want is to be able to exercise freedom of and freedom from religion"...That's really cool, Ryan Michael, except that the Constitution guaranttees us freedom of religion, but in no way guarantees freedom from.
Atheists are constantly trying to shove their ungodliness down the throats of Christians.

Fear not the enemy at the gate, for it is the enemy within that will devour you.

AngeloRodriquezAA's picture

Atheists aren't trying to

Atheists aren't trying to shove our ungodliness down anyone's throats. God, ANY God, doesn't belong anywhere that has to do with Government. It's unconstitutional. Look, however, is pushing for prayer in schools, and God in the pledge of allegiance. I should be allowed to live my life 100% God free, unless I wanted to go to church. That's where God belongs. Church. Not on money, not in public schools.

Pirate's picture
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Just another minority trying

Just another minority trying to impose their will on the majority. I'll bet you're in favor of same sex marriage, freedom of choice, and abolition of the death penalty. Oh, and I'll further bet you support the troops, but hate the war too. You all fit the same mold.

queenhoneeybee's picture
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"support the troops, but

"support the troops, but hate the war too"???

so against same-sex marriage BUT for FREEDOM of CHOICE? hypocrite?

for the death penalty? murderer?

support the troops, but LOVE (support) the war too? A war that we had no business in getting into and become off-track with Bin Laden... hmmm. the say ignorance is blind or turn the other cheek.

AngeloRodriquezAA's picture

Yeah, you know those silly

Yeah, you know those silly little Constitutional rights? Or even human rights in general? Yup. I'm for them. Do you know how much money is wasted on the death penalty? You conservatives seem to only enjoy spending exorbitant amounts of money when it has to do with killing people.

jchick's picture
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Sorry Ryan, you just did. By

Sorry Ryan, you just did. By telling people they can only talk about God in/at church, you are basically "shoving your views down other people's throat." You say you don't like it when religious people "force" their beliefs on you, but you are perfectly OK with forcing your beliefs on them (i.e. don't talk about God outside of church.)

That's not how things work in this country. The 1st Amendment not only guarantees the people's right to freely exercise their religious beliefs, it also guarantees free speach. You can no more live your life "God free" than religous people can live their lives "Atheist free." We're all stuck with each other.

John A. Chick

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." -- Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Colonel Charles Yancey (January 6, 1816)

AngeloRodriquezAA's picture

People can TALK about God

People can TALK about God wherever they want. In line at the grocery store, in their homes, Church, school, whatever, just as Atheists can talk about a lack of invisible sky fairies wherever they want. God doesn't belong in the government though. Swearing on a Bible in court? Are you serious? That does not fit with the Constitutional views that this country were built on. I see you quote Thomas Jefferson, let me quote him as well...
"I consider the government of the United States as interdicted by the Constitution from intermeddling in religious institutions, their doctrines, discipline, or exercises. This results not only from the provision that no law shall be made respecting the establishment or free exercise of religion, but from that also which reserves to the states the powers not delegated to the United States. Certainly, no power to prescribe any religious exercise or to assume authority in religious discipline has been delegated to the General Government. It must rest with the States, as far as it can be in any human authority." (Letter to Samuel Miller, Jan. 23, 1808)

gdls1's picture

Pirate (or the bird, who

Pirate (or the bird, who knows?) wrote:
"Atheists are constantly trying to shove their ungodliness down the throats of Christians."

I think they both drank too much last night and meant to post:
"Those dang Christians are always trying to cram their version of god and religion down the throats of others. Arrrrr!"

Pirate's picture
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Arrrrr...What's that,

Arrrrr...What's that, parakeet talk?
Actually, the parrot doesn't drink. He prefers catnip.

jojolou's picture

Why there are more

Why there are more Christians in prison is because there are more Christians than atheists in the USA. The legislature took our rights away by voting for same sex marriage when we had voted it down twice before, they had no right. If people marry out of the church, it's fine, as long as they are a man and woman. I have some relatives who are atheists and all they can do is call us Christians names so God bless you all.

gdls1's picture

jojolou, You can't possibly

jojolou, You can't possibly believe that the citizens of this state voted twice before for same-sex marriage. It NEVER happened!

gdls1's picture

Exactly WHAT rights were

Exactly WHAT rights were taken away from YOU when the legislature voted to extend equal rights to gays and lesbians? Not a one...

mad dad's picture

The greatest thing in our

The greatest thing in our counry is the freedom of choice to believe and/ or state individual opinions. What a person believes doesn't necessarily make them a "bad" person. There might have been a lot of people who voted yes on 1 that only voted that way because they rejected the state's attempt to pass a law knowing it probably wouldn't pass a popular vote. They passed the law "because they could" and the Federal government does the same thing. The checks and balances in goverment our forefathers tried to set up have been bypassed by slick politicians. Too bad we can't figure a way to have equal representation with no majority, so they would be forced to work for the benefit of the people, not their own political agendas.

queenhoneeybee's picture
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I agree that we should be

I agree that we should be able to exercise freedom from religion and that it is okay to prefer science over scripture. I agree that is its not okay for people to pressure and force others to think the their religion is the only religion. As far as personal beliefs-I think that it is okay for people to express them and speak about them (just as long as they are not forcing another to abide by their religious beliefs/rules). That is the undeniably-the ugly, beauty of freedom in our country. You will hear many 'christians' say that NO on 1 supporters (which I am proud to say I am a NO on 1 supporter) were pushing their beliefs onto them... that is not the case. NO on 1 would not affect them if they aren't G/L/B/T to begin with. Besides-isn't that what Freedom is in our country-to express or speak up for our personal beliefs but still allow or neighbor to be treated equal and live their lives the way that they choose to? Isn't our country all about freedom and equal rights? Just as the 'christians'/'catholics'/yes on 1 supporters have the privilege to express themselves (although most have encountered-sadly-have been cruel and hateful) and just as the G/L/B/T should be allowed to express themselves? We are all equal. It is too sad that we are not treated as equals... from color, to religion, to beliefs, to sexual orientation, to disabilities, to what we wear. Its rather sickening. When it boils down to it Ryan-I am afraid that an answer can not be giving other than cruel remarks or more religious rhetoric. I often wonder why many cannot use positive, uplifting remarks or comments... sorta like the 'kill 'em with kindness' method-but I'm afraid that many are too haste.

Pirate's picture
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You ARE free to exercise

You ARE free to exercise freedom FROM religion; it just isn't guaranteed for you in the Constitution. You do so at your own option/risk/peril.

Pirate's picture
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Parrot: "What did she

Parrot: "What did she say""
Pirate: Don't know; read it again a couple more times."
Parrot: Okey-Dokey...

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